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 Alexander Dennis Closing
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Wed 11 Jun 14:03

AD in Falkirk is closing and moving it’s operation South of the border. The area is already reeling with the closure of the Grangemouth Refinery and now this. Shocking really. How many times do Scottish workers get treated like this… like second class citizens ?

Better together eh ?

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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 Re: Alexander Dennis Closing
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Wed 11 Jun 14:17

That’s a blow. You could understand it if they were moving to Asia, but to take it south leaves a very bad taste




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 Re: Alexander Dennis Closing
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 11 Jun 14:34

AD have been working on this for a while now. They already moved roles from other English bases to Lambert and Camelon. What they`re doing now is centralising everything to Scarborough. I`ll guarantee 400 jobs don`t magically appear in Scarborough.
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 Re: Alexander Dennis Closing
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Wed 18 Jun 00:27

If you’re trying to become a UK wide business, it makes sense to base yourself in England. Small low-cost local businesses will be fine up here but if you are concerned with tax, strategic market access or even just the draw of more people = more money, it may well be worth it to move to England.

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 Re: Alexander Dennis Closing
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 18 Jun 12:05

Quote:

NMCmassive, Wed 18 Jun 00:27

If you’re trying to become a UK wide business, it makes sense to base yourself in England. Small low-cost local businesses will be fine up here but if you are concerned with tax, strategic market access or even just the draw of more people = more money, it may well be worth it to move to England.


Not really though. If you`re a bus company looking to buy buses you couldn`t give a crap whether it was made in Falkirk or made in Scarborough. You`ll buy whatever is deemed to be cheap and reliable.

The issue for the likes of AD is their buses used to be EVERYWHERE. Not so much anymore. Particularly with the fleets of electric buses, they are Chinese. They`ve gone from being the big name to being the no mark in bus manufacturing. Why buy local if you can buy from China for half the price and get your order delivered in a quarter of the time?

I can almost guarantee AD will be sold to a Chinese company in the next decade. The set up in Scarborough will be changed so it`s essentially building kit buses from parts imported from China.
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 Re: Alexander Dennis Closing
Topic Originator: dafc  
Date:   Wed 18 Jun 18:27

Maybe if Scottish government had ordered more than 44 buses of the 242 as most ordered elsewhere, would have helped on the decision to remain in Scotland.
Add they’ve received £58m in government subsidies since 2020 is a stab in the back for Scottish government too, maybe government should include clauses in such subsidies about remaining in Scotland for a period of time. All these private firms getting huge amount of cash from Scottish gov then essentially leaving Scotland

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 Re: Alexander Dennis Closing
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 18 Jun 19:21

The same model has happened for years. Only difference is it`s a local company. Just watch as they get sold up again. They`re Canadian owned currently.

Look at all the companies around Dunfermline and elsewhere that are outsourcing everything to China and India. They may be "British" companies but it`s in name only.
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