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 Ryanair 😠
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 5 Nov 15:39

Is there a more annoying airline than Ryanair? I only ever use them as a last resort. Everything they do appears to be designed to wind their passengers up.

Their maximum cabin bag size is slightly smaller than other airlines, so if you`re not checking in hold luggage, you need a new set of cabin baggage. And if you want to carry out your online check-in, you have to reserve your seats - at a cost, of course - otherwise you can`t check in until the day before.

People still use them because fares are competitive, but by the time you get through all the add ons, you`re left wondering why you bothered, unless like me, there`s no other suitable direct flights when I want to fly.



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Topic Originator: parsmad68  
Date:   Wed 5 Nov 16:15

Flew for 30 years and absolutely avoid them. BA are cheaper booked in advance and you don’t have the hassle. The worst thing about Ryanair is they employ the nippiest woman with the nippiest voices for check in and gate calls. Horrible airline with horribly behaved staff. Apologies if anyone works for Ryanair, other opinions are available 😂. The pilots do have a lot of experience in bad weather conditions because as every other airline diverts, when Ryanair are in the air they will get you to your destination through the most atrocious weather.
Many great stories of flying all over the world with many various airlines, but with Ryanair there has never been or will be any good stories.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 5 Nov 16:59

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 Re: Ryanair 😠
Topic Originator: answer  
Date:   Wed 5 Nov 21:29

Never had a problem with them.
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 5 Nov 22:11

Ryanair`s hand luggage was designed to basically be what "hand luggage" used to be - a wee backpack or handbag. They`ve actually just increased the size slightly.

My last experience of Ryanair was pretty good tbh. What I did notice was LOTS of mainly older people paying no regard to the single piece of hand luggage policy. None were picked up on it, which may have just been lucky as I`ve seen plenty complaints about Ryanair baggage.

My bigger bugbear is the 20kg rather than 23kg allowance. We`re rarely near 23kg but that pressure to have it under 20 is intense, especially as the gits will charge you a few quid per kilo over.

Jet2 are the creme de la creme of budget airlines (nothing beats a Jet2 holiday...) but they`re often far dearer than Ryanair.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 5 Nov 22:41

Wife and I go to Tenerife twice a year and now only use Jet2.com, for customer experience they can`t be beat!
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy  
Date:   Wed 5 Nov 23:31

Used to fly Ryanair regularly between Edinburgh and Copenhagen and very rarely had any issues in honesty.
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Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Thu 6 Nov 03:10

Not my preferred airline or first choice but only people who complain are those that try to take more than the allowance agreed at purchase. I’m more annoyed at being held up by chancers trying to take more than their allowance

It’s not like they don’t email you multiple times to upsell or offer additional luggage several times through the purchase process detailing exactly what your limitations are. Only minor bugbear is I’d like to be able to buy a single case for a group rather than having to buy a bag each but this is easily worked around.
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Topic Originator: FifeEternal  
Date:   Thu 6 Nov 09:39

Nothing wrong with them.

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Topic Originator: parsmad68  
Date:   Thu 6 Nov 10:53

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FifeEternal, Thu 6 Nov 09:39

Nothing wrong with them.


I didn’t know Michael O’Leary was a Pars fan. 😉
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Thu 6 Nov 12:16

use them fairly regularly, more through necessity but never had an issue. I know what im getting when i book with them. Had 2 back to back weekends last year where same sat evening flight was delayed just long enough to be annoying but not long enough to be eligble for compensation.

Was on an overbooked flight with them and offered £250 plus a meal voucher to miss the flight and get a seat on the next one 4 hours later.

Have found easyjet to be worse for "policing" baggage at check in desks.

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Topic Originator: JnrB  
Date:   Thu 6 Nov 13:21

Used them a few times for going abroad with minimal luggage and found them to be far better than easy jet. No frills, cheap and on time everytime I’ve used them.

Flew to Venice before the euros last year for £25, few days across European countries up to munich for the start of the tournament then flew back from Köln for £30.

Another pars fan who’s not on here has used them a dozen times this year going to Europe for long weekends and has only had 1 issue when a return flight was cancelled, he was refunded £250 when the flight cost him less than £100.

Best service I’ve had is jet2, can’t fault them from my experience.

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Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Thu 6 Nov 14:29

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Wed 5 Nov 22:41

Wife and I go to Tenerife twice a year and now only use Jet2.com, for customer experience they can`t be beat!


I’d second that…

Did fly with KLM once and in terms of on flight service they were brilliant. Better than BA by far. Been years since I flew BA tho

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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Fri 7 Nov 23:36

Apparently Jet2 have an aircraft on rota standby in the Canaries in case there is need to cover for significantly delayed return flights or cancellations which would strand holidaymakers in Tenerife or Gran Canaria etc.

Sounds like expensive operational logistics - but it reduces or negates the potential scenario of costly compensation payments and enhances their reputation for customer care.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sat 8 Nov 20:49

Has anybody else clocked the report of a Ryanair flight having to make an emergency landing in Romania after the first officer took ill ?

The captain landed the aircraft safely.

So when your kids ask why there are two drivers on their holiday plane ………….
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Topic Originator: adj27  
Date:   Sun 9 Nov 18:58

My wife insists we use Jet2 for holidays and they’re generally very good. We did though use Ryanair for a trip with friends to Barcelona a couple of years ago and I couldn’t fault them.

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Mon 24 Nov 10:47

Aye, they`re wonderful right enough. 🙄
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2025/nov/24/ryanair-expects-me-to-take-the-financial-hit-for-helping-others



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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 24 Nov 12:12

If that story made it to the national news they might be persuaded to change their minds.

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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Mon 24 Nov 13:40

We use them two or three times a year to fly to knock airport to visit family…
For a short flight where you don’t need to take much they’re not bad I suppose

Not too keen on mobile boarding cards only going forward as I always print mine so as not to rely on my very old and not so smart (or decent battery) mobile
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 24 Nov 15:57

Ryanair are fine when there are no issues. Non-existant customer care, which is how they save the money.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Mon 24 Nov 16:28

"Aye, they`re wonderful right enough. 🙄
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2025/nov/24/ryanair-expects-me-to-take-the-financial-hit-for-helping-others"

Similar story about guy that confronted the train stabber couple of weeks back who then couldnt attend the Nottm Forrest European game due to his injuries and Ryanair refused his refund and BA stepped in to offer all expenses paid trip for the next game instead.

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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Mon 24 Nov 18:02

"Ryanair are fine when there are no issues. Non-existant customer care, which is how they save the money."

Likewise EasyJet.

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Topic Originator: parsmad68  
Date:   Mon 24 Nov 20:50

I once priced flights to London for Wimbledon in January before the July tournament and found Ryanair more expensive than British airways business class due to the bag add ons. It is lack of clarity and confusion by their policies that make it difficult to fly with them. Agree on the Knock flights as it is a short journey and nobody but Ryanair will fly. However would still only fly them as a very last resort. I am surprised they are no angling for charter USA flights for Scotland supporters.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sat 27 Dec 09:16

So, checking in for my flights today, Ryanair asks for my date of birth. This month`s calendar pops up. No function for entering it directly so I was obliged to hit the back button hunners of times to get all the way back to 19 canteen. And again for Mrs Riva, who`s slightly younger. 🙄

Oh and if we want to sit together, it`s only £20. Why don`t they just charge more for the fare instead of all this sneaky stuff?



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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 27 Dec 10:07

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GG Riva, Sat 27 Dec 09:16

So, checking in for my flights today, Ryanair asks for my date of birth. This month`s calendar pops up. No function for entering it directly so I was obliged to hit the back button hunners of times to get all the way back to 19 canteen. And again for Mrs Riva, who`s slightly younger. 🙄

Oh and if we want to sit together, it`s only £20. Why don`t they just charge more for the fare instead of all this sneaky stuff?


If you click top left (I think) it lets you go back by year. Not intuitive at all and a terrible calendar feature.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sat 27 Dec 13:21

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jake89, Sat 27 Dec 10:07

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GG Riva, Sat 27 Dec 09:16

So, checking in for my flights today, Ryanair asks for my date of birth. This month`s calendar pops up. No function for entering it directly so I was obliged to hit the back button hunners of times to get all the way back to 19 canteen. And again for Mrs Riva, who`s slightly younger. 🙄

Oh and if we want to sit together, it`s only £20. Why don`t they just charge more for the fare instead of all this sneaky stuff?


If you click top left (I think) it lets you go back by year. Not intuitive at all and a terrible calendar feature.


Cheers, Jake. Will try that for the return flight as I`m not able to check in until the day before flying unless I buy my seats. As a matter of principle, I`m no daen it!



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Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Sat 27 Dec 19:48

The best £20 that Mrs Riva has never spent 😉
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 28 Dec 13:24

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ipswichpar, Sat 27 Dec 19:48

The best £20 that Mrs Riva has never spent 😉


You cheeky bassa, Tractor Boy! 😀

As it happened the seat beside was empty and she couldn`t wait to fill it. It`s hard to be humble when you`re as braw as I am. 😁



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Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Sun 28 Dec 15:48

Lol.

I hope you both have a lovely time. Have loved all my time in that country.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sun 28 Dec 22:35

I see a Ryanair flight skelped a fuel truck at EDI a few days ago at take off 😱.

Don’t tell Mrs. GG 🙄
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Mon 29 Dec 09:22

"Oh and if we want to sit together, it`s only £20"

Check 1 person in on random seat allocation then "seat select" check-in for person 2 selecting the next seat. £10 saved .)

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Mon 29 Dec 13:21

Quote:

Playup_Pompey, Mon 29 Dec 09:22

"Oh and if we want to sit together, it`s only £20"

Check 1 person in on random seat allocation then "seat select" check-in for person 2 selecting the next seat. £10 saved .)


Very cunning, PuP. Why didn`t I think of that? 🤔

I managed to save the other tenner, too, by working out that the seat next to mine (and that next to my wife`s) were not taken and I was right, so get it right up you, Ryanair. 😜

It proves beyond all doubt that its policy is to try and squeeze additional money from its passengers. Just put it on the basic fare and seat passengers who book as a group together. If it`s good enough for the likes of easyJet and Jet2......



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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 29 Dec 13:45

Just wait till you roll up with hand luggage!🤔🙉😡
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash  
Date:   Mon 29 Dec 17:43

‘Just put it on the basic fare and seat passengers who book as a group together.’

So the other passengers should pay more so tight gits can sit where they want for free? That hardly seems fair. I’m with O’Leary on this one.

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Mon 29 Dec 18:14

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Tad Allagash, Mon 29 Dec 17:43

‘Just put it on the basic fare and seat passengers who book as a group together.’

So the other passengers should pay more so tight gits can sit where they want for free? That hardly seems fair. I’m with O’Leary on this one.


I don`t follow your logic at all, Tad. I could argue that passengers travelling alone get a cheaper fare as it doesn`t really matter where they sit. Jet2 charge a bit more for their fares but they include carry on suitcases which is pretty decent. Neither Jet2 nor easyJet have ever seated us apart and we`ve never paid extra.

O`Leary will be pleased to learn he has at least one fan. 😀



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Topic Originator: parsmad68  
Date:   Mon 29 Dec 18:18

Quote:

Tad Allagash, Mon 29 Dec 17:43

‘Just put it on the basic fare and seat passengers who book as a group together.’

So the other passengers should pay more so tight gits can sit where they want for free? That hardly seems fair. I’m with O’Leary on this one.


Sorry, another post as I cannot stand the airline and they push the boundaries of guidance terminology from the CAA deliberately to their own profits. See below.

The CAA emphasises that splitting family groups can hinder emergency evacuations, so seating procedures should avoid placing family members “remotely from each other”
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Mon 29 Dec 18:31

Put your own mask first and then walk up the other end of the cabin.......
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash  
Date:   Mon 29 Dec 18:44

‘The CAA emphasises that splitting family groups can hinder emergency evacuations, so seating procedures should avoid placing family members “remotely from each other”’.

Good point. All the more reason to pay the (bargain) £20 then.

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Topic Originator: parsmad68  
Date:   Mon 29 Dec 19:05

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Tad Allagash, Mon 29 Dec 18:44

‘The CAA emphasises that splitting family groups can hinder emergency evacuations, so seating procedures should avoid placing family members “remotely from each other”’.

Good point. All the more reason to pay the (bargain) £20 then.


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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Mon 29 Dec 19:09

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Tad Allagash, Mon 29 Dec 18:44

‘The CAA emphasises that splitting family groups can hinder emergency evacuations, so seating procedures should avoid placing family members “remotely from each other”’.

Good point. All the more reason to pay the (bargain) £20 then.


More flawed logic. Put an extra £10 on the basic fare and let folk choose their seats for free makes far more sense to me
Deliberately seating families apart when there are plenty of seats available to allow them to sit together is mean, underhand and indefensible, but don`t let that deter you, Michael. 🙄



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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash  
Date:   Mon 29 Dec 20:13

Fly private then.

It’s like going to Wetherspoons and complaining that Gordon Ramsay isn’t in the kitchen.

It’s a budget airline that you chose. You’re obviously getting value for money. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be using them.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 29 Dec 21:59

Jet2.com charge you for booked seats, I get them free due to my wife needing Special Assistance.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 05:54

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LochgellyAlbert, Mon 29 Dec 21:59

Jet2.com charge you for booked seats, I get them free due to my wife needing Special Assistance.


So do easyjet, LA, but I`m a frequent flyer with both and have never booked seats with either, and my wife and I have always been allocated adjacent seats, although on one occasion we were separated by the central aisle.



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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 06:13

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Tad Allagash, Mon 29 Dec 20:13

Fly private then.

It’s like going to Wetherspoons and complaining that Gordon Ramsay isn’t in the kitchen.

It’s a budget airline that you chose. You’re obviously getting value for money. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be using them.


OK, I`ll bite. Like the vast majority of ordinary people, I choose to fly economy rather than first/business class. I believe in spending money wisely rather than needlessly burning it. This may appear tight to you, but I`m confident that my kids and grandkids would tell you you`re well wide of the mark. 😁

Ryanair is a good budget airline, similar to easyJet and Jet2. I`ve flown with them on several occasions and have no complaints, but when there is a choice, I invariably choose another budget airline, even if it`s slightly dearer, for the reasons given further up. It`s the sneaky way they introduce additional costs after luring customers in with low basic fares.

We fly to visit elderly relatives during the school holidays 4 times a year as we have grandparent duties at other times. At Easter, in summer and in October, we have a choice of carriers operating direct flights from Edinburgh to our destination. At Christmas/New Year, there`s only Ryanair, so it`s either them or fly via Lodon or Amsterdam......



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Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 10:19

There is nothing sneaky about it at all, you would have to live under a rock not to know Ryanair and other budget airline’s practices. Ryanair while not suitable for you offers choice to others - suggesting they should change their pricing structure to suit your own circumstances, which would result in increased costs for other, is pretty entitled tbh.

All the airlines are doing everything they can to extract your money so it’s only reasonable that you game them to suit yourself. Before booking any flight I go through an aggregator then through the booking process to know exactly the cost will be for what I need then I compare the alternatives (including connecting options) and select what suits me for whatever I am doing. I also check the cost to add a single bag later (since in booking it can mean a hold case for every passenger when often we only need one).

Also if you want to sit together on easyJet you DO have to pay extra;
“The system will try to seat people on the same booking together, but there is no guarantee, especially if the flight is busy or many other passengers have already chosen specific seats.”
“The only reliable way to make sure two adults (or a group) sit next to each other is to pay for seat selection at booking or via Manage My Booking before check-in.”

There is nothing ‘hidden’ it’s all clear and I can buy or not - it’s the consumers choice.
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 11:50

Good post P.

In the early days of budget airlines, people were suspicious of the low cost. Why is it so cheap? Are they using old knackered planes? Are their pilots qualified?

So to give a plausible explanation for their low prices, Ryanair were deliberately explicit and transparent about the cost and unbundled all the ‘free’ stuff (drinks, food, newspapers, seat allocation, luggage allowance etc.).

IKEA use a similar trick, selling you a bookcase for a scarcely believable £19 but the catch is you’ve got to assemble it yourself.

The fact that Ryanair is the only carrier going from Edinburgh to GG’s destination (Naples?) over winter implies the other airlines can’t make a profit from it.

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Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 12:24

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P, Tue 30 Dec 10:19
Also if you want to sit together on easyJet you DO have to pay extra;
“The system will try to seat people on the same booking together, but there is no guarantee, especially if the flight is busy or many other passengers have already chosen specific seats.”
“The only reliable way to make sure two adults (or a group) sit next to each other is to pay for seat selection at booking or via Manage My Booking before check-in.”


So, if it tries to put you together when it can (it always has for me), how is it able to do it for a price when it can`t?

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Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 13:15

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parsfan, Tue 30 Dec 12:24

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P, Tue 30 Dec 10:19
Also if you want to sit together on easyJet you DO have to pay extra;
“The system will try to seat people on the same booking together, but there is no guarantee, especially if the flight is busy or many other passengers have already chosen specific seats.”
“The only reliable way to make sure two adults (or a group) sit next to each other is to pay for seat selection at booking or via Manage My Booking before check-in.”


So, if it tries to put you together when it can (it always has for me), how is it able to do it for a price when it can`t?


I’m not sure I understand your statement but here is the exact clauses & clause numbers on their website to help you;

“Seating

9.1 We operate an allocated seating system. You can select seats for a fee at the time of Booking or afterwards online. The fee varies depending on the seat category, the specific flight and when the seat is selected. Please see our Seating Policy and Fees and Charges for more details. Some of our fares include seat selection, as shown at time of Booking. All seats are conditional upon availability at the time you seek to select the seats. If you choose to select seats, you must do so for all Passengers on your Booking.
9.2 If you choose not to select a seat we will allocate one for you automatically when you check in. Our system will try to allocate you seats close to other Passengers on your Booking, but this depends on availability and is not guaranteed.”

In my experience easyJet at least ‘try’ to put you together whereas Ryanair are more middle seat punitive
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 13:24

Ryanair put you where you`ll fit. Single travellers tend to leave a gap (assuming 3-3 layout) in the hope the middle seat is left free. Ryanair can`t afford empty seats.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 13:39

"In my experience easyJet at least ‘try’ to put you together whereas Ryanair are more middle seat punitive."

Definitely the case in my experience. I`ve never selected seats in over 20 years of flying with easyJet, Jet2 and Ryanair. This is the first instance in which my wife and I have been allocated middle seats some distance apart. The flight was not full and the seats next to each of us were not allocated, so once all passengers were seated, I got her to come and sit next to me. All I`m saying is there`s no need for Ryanair to do that.

Another argument for another day is that if I was to book the same flights to the same destination for next week, I could travel for just over half the basic fare. How can they still turn a profit at those prices but feel it necessary to charge extra for passengers to sit together when it can be done at no extra cost to the airline?

I can`t imagine I`m alone in having decided that I`ll only use Ryanair when there`s no viable alternative direct flight.



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Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 14:12

I`ll try another way.

1. I book a flight for three people.
2. The automatic seat allocation can`t get us all together.
3. Where will it find the seats to put us together if I pay?

I`m not expecting you to know the answer or to defend them, it`s just something that crosses my mind whenever I fly with them.

Most people don`t/won`t pay extra and that`s what makes it work for most people. I`m sure they`d like more to do so and create a panic buying-like situation where it became the norm. Similarly, Speedy Boarding, what if everyone paid for that?

If you don`t pay for your seats at booking or prior to check-in, then the key thing is to check-in as early as you can.

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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 15:11

‘3. Where will it find the seats to put us together if I pay?’

I’m not sure, but if there are really no adjacent seats left, then I don’t think it will.

I would imagine that the front row and emergency exits seats and the first few rows are held back for paying customers and won’t normally be randomly allocated to cheap skates. However, if no one has paid for the emergency exit seats, then someone will be allocated them as someone has to sit there.

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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 15:28

My budget airline gripe is at the next stage. Ive paid for flight/seats/speedy boarding to sit with whoever im with, I board the flight with a rucksack and get told that it should go at my feet to keep room for bigger bags in the overhead lockers...What If i was using my full baggage allocation and had a larger bag/case do those coming on last just not get to bring the case with them? Ryanair used to let you volunteer your bag for check in and leave it at bottom of steps to get put in the hold which i would do if i didnt have a tight connection etc at the other end.

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Topic Originator: parsmad68  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 15:56

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GG Riva, Tue 30 Dec 13:39

"In my experience easyJet at least ‘try’ to put you together whereas Ryanair are more middle seat punitive."

Definitely the case in my experience. I`ve never selected seats in over 20 years of flying with easyJet, Jet2 and Ryanair. This is the first instance in which my wife and I have been allocated middle seats some distance apart. The flight was not full and the seats next to each of us were not allocated, so once all passengers were seated, I got her to come and sit next to me. All I`m saying is there`s no need for Ryanair to do that.

Another argument for another day is that if I was to book the same flights to the same destination for next week, I could travel for just over half the basic fare. How can they still turn a profit at those prices but feel it necessary to charge extra for passengers to sit together when it can be done at no extra cost to the airline?

I can`t imagine I`m alone in having decided that I`ll only use Ryanair when there`s no viable alternative direct flight.


GG I would raise that with the CAA. They are very responsive on such matters. That is unacceptable.
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Topic Originator: fcda  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 16:53

easyJet are just as bad for extra fees. Went recently and seats weren`t together until I paid £8 per person per flight.

Cabin bag (not hold bag) would have been about £40 extra per person per flight. We travelled light and crammed everything into small rucksacks instead.

I know the fee structure so I`m content to use them when required. Often easy jet and Ryanair are the best options for direct flights.
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 17:38

It’s a question of framing.

You can think of it as charging extra to sit where you want. But it makes much more sense to say you’re getting a discount to sit in a crap seat that no one would pay for. If you frame it like that, then taking the discount and still complaining about your seat is ridiculous.

If you follow GG’s logic, then you should be able to buy a second class train ticket and sit in an empty seat in first class as it’s ‘no extra cost’ to the train operator. But there is a cost as it devalues the first class ticket and therefore increases the price of the second class ticket.

The real value of paying for a seat is that it massively reduces the chances of being sat next to a stag do, hen do or Falkirk fans.

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Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 18:07

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parsfan, Tue 30 Dec 14:12

I`ll try another way.

1. I book a flight for three people.
2. The automatic seat allocation can`t get us all together.
3. Where will it find the seats to put us together if I pay?

I`m not expecting you to know the answer or to defend them, it`s just something that crosses my mind whenever I fly with them.

Most people don`t/won`t pay extra and that`s what makes it work for most people. I`m sure they`d like more to do so and create a panic buying-like situation where it became the norm. Similarly, Speedy Boarding, what if everyone paid for that?

If you don`t pay for your seats at booking or prior to check-in, then the key thing is to check-in as early as you can.


They don’t allocate the seats, if you pay for seats you then get a map and pick the ones you want. If there aren’t 3 in a row then you select the best for you (I’ve never been on any that didn’t have 3 seat configuration though). If you don’t pay then it might try and allocate you together in easyJet’s case but since they don’t guarantee it then you’re at the mercy of the algorithm and could land anywhere
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 18:26

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parsmad68, Tue 30 Dec 15:56

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GG Riva, Tue 30 Dec 13:39

"In my experience easyJet at least ‘try’ to put you together whereas Ryanair are more middle seat punitive."

Definitely the case in my experience. I`ve never selected seats in over 20 years of flying with easyJet, Jet2 and Ryanair. This is the first instance in which my wife and I have been allocated middle seats some distance apart. The flight was not full and the seats next to each of us were not allocated, so once all passengers were seated, I got her to come and sit next to me. All I`m saying is there`s no need for Ryanair to do that.

Another argument for another day is that if I was to book the same flights to the same destination for next week, I could travel for just over half the basic fare. How can they still turn a profit at those prices but feel it necessary to charge extra for passengers to sit together when it can be done at no extra cost to the airline?

I can`t imagine I`m alone in having decided that I`ll only use Ryanair when there`s no viable alternative direct flight.


GG I would raise that with the CAA. They are very responsive on such matters. That is unacceptable.


Which matter are you referring to, Parsmad?



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Topic Originator: parsmad68  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 18:40

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GG Riva, Tue 30 Dec 18:26

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parsmad68, Tue 30 Dec 15:56

Quote:

GG Riva, Tue 30 Dec 13:39

"In my experience easyJet at least ‘try’ to put you together whereas Ryanair are more middle seat punitive."

Definitely the case in my experience. I`ve never selected seats in over 20 years of flying with easyJet, Jet2 and Ryanair. This is the first instance in which my wife and I have been allocated middle seats some distance apart. The flight was not full and the seats next to each of us were not allocated, so once all passengers were seated, I got her to come and sit next to me. All I`m saying is there`s no need for Ryanair to do that.

Another argument for another day is that if I was to book the same flights to the same destination for next week, I could travel for just over half the basic fare. How can they still turn a profit at those prices but feel it necessary to charge extra for passengers to sit together when it can be done at no extra cost to the airline?

I can`t imagine I`m alone in having decided that I`ll only use Ryanair when there`s no viable alternative direct flight.


GG I would raise that with the CAA. They are very responsive on such matters. That is unacceptable.


Which matter are you referring to, Parsmad?


It sounds like they deliberately seated you separately when the flight was not fully booked. This is against CAA guidance for safety.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 19:07

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parsmad68, Tue 30 Dec 18:40

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GG Riva, Tue 30 Dec 18:26

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parsmad68, Tue 30 Dec 15:56

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GG Riva, Tue 30 Dec 13:39

"In my experience easyJet at least ‘try’ to put you together whereas Ryanair are more middle seat punitive."

Definitely the case in my experience. I`ve never selected seats in over 20 years of flying with easyJet, Jet2 and Ryanair. This is the first instance in which my wife and I have been allocated middle seats some distance apart. The flight was not full and the seats next to each of us were not allocated, so once all passengers were seated, I got her to come and sit next to me. All I`m saying is there`s no need for Ryanair to do that.

Another argument for another day is that if I was to book the same flights to the same destination for next week, I could travel for just over half the basic fare. How can they still turn a profit at those prices but feel it necessary to charge extra for passengers to sit together when it can be done at no extra cost to the airline?

I can`t imagine I`m alone in having decided that I`ll only use Ryanair when there`s no viable alternative direct flight.


GG I would raise that with the CAA. They are very responsive on such matters. That is unacceptable.


Which matter are you referring to, Parsmad?


It sounds like they deliberately seated you separately when the flight was not fully booked. This is against CAA guidance for safety.


After our seats had been allocated, I received an email informing me that it was not too late for us to be seated together if I paid an extra £10 pp. This was less than 24 hours before flying as it`s another restriction imposed by the airline. If you select and pay for your seats you can check in 60 days beforehand otherwise it`s 24 hours. It`s a battle of wills. 😃

I`ll see what happens for our return flight, but I`m more minded to avoid them whenever possible than report them to the CAA.



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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 19:08

Isn’t this guidance just for children under 12? I think Ryanair make it mandatory to pay for a seat when travelling with kids under 12.

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Topic Originator: parsmad68  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 20:17

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Isn’t this guidance just for children under 12? I think Ryanair make it mandatory to pay for a seat when travelling with kids under 12.


No it is enforced for children under 12. It is general guidance for all passengers.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68  
Date:   Tue 30 Dec 20:20

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GG Riva, Tue 30 Dec 19:07

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parsmad68, Tue 30 Dec 18:40

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GG Riva, Tue 30 Dec 18:26

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parsmad68, Tue 30 Dec 15:56

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GG Riva, Tue 30 Dec 13:39

"In my experience easyJet at least ‘try’ to put you together whereas Ryanair are more middle seat punitive."

Definitely the case in my experience. I`ve never selected seats in over 20 years of flying with easyJet, Jet2 and Ryanair. This is the first instance in which my wife and I have been allocated middle seats some distance apart. The flight was not full and the seats next to each of us were not allocated, so once all passengers were seated, I got her to come and sit next to me. All I`m saying is there`s no need for Ryanair to do that.

Another argument for another day is that if I was to book the same flights to the same destination for next week, I could travel for just over half the basic fare. How can they still turn a profit at those prices but feel it necessary to charge extra for passengers to sit together when it can be done at no extra cost to the airline?

I can`t imagine I`m alone in having decided that I`ll only use Ryanair when there`s no viable alternative direct flight.


GG I would raise that with the CAA. They are very responsive on such matters. That is unacceptable.


Which matter are you referring to, Parsmad?


It sounds like they deliberately seated you separately when the flight was not fully booked. This is against CAA guidance for safety.


After our seats had been allocated, I received an email informing me that it was not too late for us to be seated together if I paid an extra £10 pp. This was less than 24 hours before flying as it`s another restriction imposed by the airline. If you select and pay for your seats you can check in 60 days beforehand otherwise it`s 24 hours. It`s a battle of wills. 😃

I`ll see what happens for our return flight, but I`m more minded to avoid them whenever possible than report them to the CAA.


I had an issue with Jet2 on a holiday flight. I didn’t hold out much hope after discussions with the airline, so decided to go to the CAA as I felt the airline were dragging their feet. £250 later and a warning to the airline later, I felt compensated.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Thu 1 Jan 08:29

"Ryanair, while not suitable for you, offers choice to others - suggesting they should change their pricing structure to suit your own circumstances, which would result in increased costs for other, is pretty entitled tbh."

This appears to be a good point, P, but it doesn`t stand up to closer examination. Airlines would only have to raise the basic fare if they didn`t charge for seats if they wanted to arrive at the same total. While this may well be desirable, it is certainly not essential. I can fly with Ryanair to the same destination for the rest of this month for approximately 60% of what I`ve paid for flights over the festive period.

This is not exclusive to Ryanair, of course. All carriers bump up their prices during school holidays. Presumably, they can still turn a profit with these cheaper fares but will need the extra cash to keep their shareholders happy.



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Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Thu 1 Jan 09:07

The seat charge will be part of their margin & profits so the price would have to go up no matter what so reflect a different pricing policy, which for those who don’t care where or who they sit with is not fair.

As an aside, minor tip if you’re worried about the hand luggage trap at boarding with budget airlines, go to duty free and buy a bag for 10p and stick a couple of your bulky items in the bag and seal it. You’re allowed duty free aside from bag allowance. Doesn’t work if you’re actually buying duty free mind you.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Thu 1 Jan 09:36

Charging to reserve a specific seat(s) is not unique to Ryanair - standard practice with Jet2 and TUI the two biggest package holiday providers.

However they won’t split up families/couples as a rule, unlike Ryanair who apparently use that to persuade punters to pay extra to be sure of being seated together
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Thu 1 Jan 10:01

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veteraneastender, Thu 1 Jan 09:36

Charging to reserve a specific seat(s) is not unique to Ryanair - standard practice with Jet2 and TUI the two biggest package holiday providers.

However they won’t split up families/couples as a rule, unlike Ryanair who apparently use that to persuade punters to pay extra to be sure of being seated together
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This is what irks me about Ryanair. Other budget airlines will try to sell you seats, but if you don`t bite, you almost always sit together anyway. With Ryanair, there appears to be a deliberate attempt at coercion.

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As an aside, minor tip if you’re worried about the hand luggage trap at boarding with budget airlines, go to duty free and buy a bag for 10p and stick a couple of your bulky items in the bag and seal it. You’re allowed duty free aside from bag allowance. Doesn’t work if you’re actually buying duty free mind you."

Thanks for the tip, P. A bit sneaky though. Almost worthy of Ryanair. 😉



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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash  
Date:   Thu 1 Jan 11:06

Sorry GG, but it’s your analysis that doesn’t stand up to examination.

You’re making the incorrect assumption that airlines’ costs (e.g, landing slots, fuel, staff costs) are the same during the holidays as they are off season.

Edinburgh airport can’t magically create an extra runway to cope with the demand in the holiday season.

And the staff that work on Christmas Day and forgo holidays with their kids should be fairly compensated should they not?

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Thu 1 Jan 13:07

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Tad Allagash, Thu 1 Jan 11:06

Sorry GG, but it’s your analysis that doesn’t stand up to examination.

You’re making the incorrect assumption that airlines’ costs (e.g, landing slots, fuel, staff costs) are the same during the holidays as they are off season.

Edinburgh airport can’t magically create an extra runway to cope with the demand in the holiday season.

And the staff that work on Christmas Day and forgo holidays with their kids should be fairly compensated should they not?


Ah, fair point, Tad. I hadn`t considered that airport costs can vary. It doesn`t completely allay my suspicions that airlines take advantage of school holidays to raise prices. Fair enough at Christmas and New Year but maybe not during the tattie hols in October, eh?



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Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Thu 1 Jan 13:46

Well, their operational costs certainly aren't increasing as quickly as their revenue or profit.

As usual, they`ll be making the most of it but they are starting at a relatively low bar in terms of what they charge.

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Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Thu 1 Jan 17:24

The budget airlines definitely use dynamic pricing, you only need to look at prices the second a Scotland away fixture is announced to see it in action.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 2 Jan 08:24

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P, Thu 1 Jan 17:24

The budget airlines definitely use dynamic pricing, you only need to look at prices the second a Scotland away fixture is announced to see it in action.


It`s more complex than just dynamic pricing, P. A friend`s son told me booking flights at weekends is often more expensive than say, booking at 3 am on a week night. I was quite sceptical but put it to the test several times and sure enough, the boy`s claim was true.

Another thing I`ve noticed is that if you look at flights on the airline`s website but don`t book, if you go back to it, even a short time later, prices have gone up. Of course, this may be due to a layer of cheaper seats having been sold. What I do nowadays, is to identify the flights I want on Skyscanner, stick a 💙 on them so I am notified if the price goes up or down - which it does regularly - and then book at the most convenient price.



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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sat 3 Jan 10:54

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So, checking in for my flights today, Ryanair asks for my date of birth. This month`s calendar pops up. No function for entering it directly so I was obliged to hit the back button hunners of times to get all the way back to 19 canteen. And again for Mrs Riva, who`s slightly younger. 🙄


I`m thinking someone from Ryanair must read this forum and took pity on this dopey auld codger as filling in our DOBs was a lot easier for our return flight with the standard DD/MM/YYYY configuration. 😊



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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69  
Date:   Sat 3 Jan 17:08

Never had an issue with them. Firmly believe if you follow the rules they make pretty clear then you`ll never have an issue. Had more issues with easyjet and BA than Ryanair.

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Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Sat 3 Jan 18:34

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Sacktheref69, Sat 3 Jan 17:08

Never had an issue with them. Firmly believe if you follow the rules they make pretty clear then you`ll never have an issue. Had more issues with easyjet and BA than Ryanair.


That is very true, I had significantly more bother & misery with BA with business class flights that cost more than £5k (work paid) than I have ever had with any Ryanair flights
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 4 Jan 19:09

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P, Sat 3 Jan 18:34

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Sacktheref69, Sat 3 Jan 17:08

Never had an issue with them. Firmly believe if you follow the rules they make pretty clear then you`ll never have an issue. Had more issues with easyjet and BA than Ryanair.


That is very true, I had significantly more bother & misery with BA with business class flights that cost more than £5k (work paid) than I have ever had with any Ryanair flights


Well, that`s me home again. Checked in yesterday and stubbornly refused to buy adjacent seats for £20. As in the outbound flight last week, it wasn`t full. My wife and I were allocated random seats and in both cases, there were empty seats adjacent to us so we sat together once all passengers were on board.
I realise two flights is nowhere nearly big enough to draw any valid conclusions, but it does look like Ryanair try to coerce passengers into buying adjacent seats
easyJet and Jet2 may try to do the same, but if you resist, you usually get to sit together anyway.



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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sun 4 Jan 19:49

"As an aside, minor tip if you’re worried about the hand luggage trap at boarding with budget airlines, go to duty free and buy a bag for 10p and stick a couple of your bulky items in the bag and seal it. You’re allowed duty free aside from bag allowance. Doesn’t work if you’re actually buying duty free mind you."

Would these be the general use shopping bag available at any airport controlled retail outlet - rather than the special Security Tamper Evident Bag (STEB) required for duty free liquid purchases when sealing is mandatory ?

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 4 Jan 20:14

After reading this thread I can only conclude that the best interests and welfare of customers are not the priorities of budget airlines.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 4 Jan 21:01

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After reading this thread I can only conclude that the best interests and welfare of customers are not the priorities of budget airlines.


Or any private transport provider. They couldn`t care less once they have your money.
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Topic Originator: pars4life1  
Date:   Mon 5 Jan 20:39

I don`t particularly like Ryanair, but we all know the game they play and you just need to be willing to take that on.

Do they deliberately separate travel partners? Maybe, but who gives a ****, being 10 meters away from them for 2 hours never killed anyone.

Play the game , put up with some **** and you can get a cheap fair in return, don`t play the game, it will cost you.

It`s not like Ryanair`s tactics are new and unexpected

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Topic Originator: parsmad68  
Date:   Tue 6 Jan 08:46

Flight to Germany delayed and missed my connection to Asia. By the time I had got off the plane I had rebooked onto a different carrier and overnight hotel organised with a dinner pack. Economy class ticket.
Not all airlines are the same.
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Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Tue 6 Jan 11:11

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veteraneastender, Sun 4 Jan 19:49

"As an aside, minor tip if you’re worried about the hand luggage trap at boarding with budget airlines, go to duty free and buy a bag for 10p and stick a couple of your bulky items in the bag and seal it. You’re allowed duty free aside from bag allowance. Doesn’t work if you’re actually buying duty free mind you."

Would these be the general use shopping bag available at any airport controlled retail outlet - rather than the special Security Tamper Evident Bag (STEB) required for duty free liquid purchases when sealing is mandatory ?


If you can (which I did at Edinburgh last week) you are best with the bags that seal as it’s less likely to be challenged. It used to be that Ryanair included these as hand luggage but the airports recognised the loss of revenue from duty free that they faced and forced them not to count it. If you’re carrying a generic carrying bag they could argue it’s hand luggage.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Tue 6 Jan 15:15

I`m very suprised that Duty Free at EDI would supply an open unsealed STEB.

That compromises their intended use.

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 6 Jan 16:13

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pars4life1, Mon 5 Jan 20:39

I don`t particularly like Ryanair, but we all know t you just need to be willing to take that on.

Do they deliberately separate travel partners? Maybe, but who gives a ****, being 10 meters away from them for 2 hours never killed anyone.

Play the game , put up with some **** and you can get a cheap fair in return, don`t play the game, it will cost you.

It`s not like Ryanair`s tactics are new and unexpected


Good post, P4L1. I`m quite pleased that I resisted their underhand tactics to coerce me into buying seats. On both flights, there were empty seats adjacent to both of us, so once all the passengers were aboard and seated, I moved to sit next to my wife. In so doing, I saved £40 with which I was pleased to buy a couple of bottle in the duty free shop before our return flight. 😁

I did contact Ryanair to ask an "expert," whether it was the airline`s deliberate policy to sit passengers on the same booking apart. She asked whether I`d raised this with the cabin crew. I didn`t. Obviously, it`s my fault then.🤔

I`m thinking of writing to the CAA, as parsmad68 suggested, to see what they make of it. I`m not looking for compensation. I just want to know if this tactic is legal. One thing is certain : I`ll only use Ryanair when there is no convenient, viable alternative in the future.



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Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Tue 6 Jan 18:18

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veteraneastender, Tue 6 Jan 15:15

I`m very suprised that Duty Free at EDI would supply an open unsealed STEB.

That compromises their intended use.


I had already bought whisky which was bagged and asked for an extra bag to put my hat & gloves etc in and she just handed me one. Then gave us another to double bag my wife’s 2 bottles of wine - 2nd bag was not sealed. They could not have cared less.
This then summoned the algorithm with other people doing this ‘hack’ on TikTok
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69  
Date:   Wed 14 Jan 11:29

Ryanair has long been the industry leader in aggressive cost cutting/saving. What’s interesting is how many larger airlines have followed the same path over time.
Ryanair started to buck the trend with the inclusion of no free meals or drinks, charging for checked baggage and seat selection,single aircraft type B737 max to reduce maintenance and training costs, quick turnarounds to maximize aircraft "on ground time". They also were the first to do what a majority of airlines now use the "basic economy fare" .
What was once mocked as “no frills flying”has now become the industry. The introduction of Basic Economy fares by most of the bigger and "premium" airlines alongside the removal of seat back screens in favor of passengers’ own personal devices has become the normality in the way we travel.

Ryanair proved that passengers would be happy to trade comfort for price and the rest of the industry eventually accepted the same reality.


As someone who works in the industry I don`t think Ryanair didn’t just disrupted aviation they rewrote the manual and everyone else eventually copied it.

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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Mon 19 Jan 13:53

The world’s largest airlines by annual passengers

1. American Airlines — 275.5 M
2. Delta Air Lines — 239.9 M
3. Southwest Airlines — 231.4 M
4. United Airlines Holdings — 212.9 M
5. Ryanair Group — 209.6 M
6. China Southern Airlines — 148.9 M
7. China Eastern Airlines — 145.8 M
8. IndiGo — 134.9 M
9. Lufthansa Group — 131.3 M
10. International Airlines Group (IAG) — 122.1 M
11. Air China Group — 115.9 M
12. easyJet Group — 102.5 M
13. LATAM Airlines Group — 101.3 M
14. Air France–KLM Group — 93.6 M
15. Turkish Airlines — 85.2 M
16. Wizz Air — 62.8 M
17. Aeroflot Group — 55.3 M
18. Emirates — 53.0 M
19. Qantas Group — 52.0 M
20. Alaska Air Group — 49.2 M

Ryanair are a big airline 👀




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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 20 Jan 08:47

I contacted Ryanair and asked whether it was its policy to sit customers on the same booking apart even when there were empty seats beside both of us. The reply was "Did you raise this with cabin staff?"

Well, no I didn`t, but it`s rather missing the point at best and certainly didn`t answer my question. We just moved and sat together once every passenger had boarded and was seated.

I think I may contact the CAA and see what they make of it .



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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 20 Jan 15:43

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/20/elon-musk-buying-ryanair-ceo-tesla-michael-oleary-starlink

Pots and kettles.......



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Pots and kettles.......



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Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Tue 20 Jan 23:25

I know it was a tit for tat social media exchange but Musk has spoke about Electric planes before. I know he’s not everyone’s cup of tea but if he could front the development of that kind of technology, that would be an incredible achievement.

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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Wed 21 Jan 12:01

I’m Guessing they would be a lot quieter for those living under flight paths as well?
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Topic Originator: parsmad68  
Date:   Wed 21 Jan 12:33

Whatever you think of Musk, he is absolutely correct in the use of Starlink in planes. Ryanair could make an absolute fortune of the use of WiFi on planes. I have known about Starlink desire in planes for a few years having visited them. In this case Musk is correct.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69  
Date:   Wed 21 Jan 16:55

Quote:

GG Riva, Tue 20 Jan 08:47

I contacted Ryanair and asked whether it was its policy to sit customers on the same booking apart even when there were empty seats beside both of us. The reply was "Did you raise this with cabin staff?"

Well, no I didn`t, but it`s rather missing the point at best and certainly didn`t answer my question. We just moved and sat together once every passenger had boarded and was seated.

I think I may contact the CAA and see what they make of it .


Honestly, I think this is a losing battle. My advice to anyone asking about Ryanair is simple: if sitting together is important to you, pay for it. If there’s an empty seat, once the seatbelt signs are off people can usually move, and more often than not they aren’t asked to return to their original seat.
As I said earlier, most airlines are now copying the model that made Ryanair unpopular in the first place, yet we rarely hear people complaining about BA, Delta, American, etc. for the same issues.
Ryanair has completely transformed air travel while still managing, more often than not, to keep prices well below its competitors. If Ryanair isn’t your thing, you’re free to fly with someone else but as someone who travels frequently, I can say other airlines are doing the same things.

I should also point out that the CAA won’t get involved unless there’s a clear breach of regulation, and to my understanding there hasn’t been one here.

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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Wed 21 Jan 20:39

I see Elon Musk has went on twitter to call the Ryanair main man a "special needs chimp"

You can tell Musk is well on the spectrum
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Wed 21 Jan 21:13

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Sacktheref69, Wed 21 Jan 16:55

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GG Riva, Tue 20 Jan 08:47

I contacted Ryanair and asked whether it was its policy to sit customers on the same booking apart even when there were empty seats beside both of us. The reply was "Did you raise this with cabin staff?"

Well, no I didn`t, but it`s rather missing the point at best and certainly didn`t answer my question. We just moved and sat together once every passenger had boarded and was seated.

I think I may contact the CAA and see what they make of it .


Honestly, I think this is a losing battle. My advice to anyone asking about Ryanair is simple: if sitting together is important to you, pay for it. If there’s an empty seat, once the seatbelt signs are off people can usually move, and more often than not they aren’t asked to return to their original seat.
As I said earlier, most airlines are now copying the model that made Ryanair unpopular in the first place, yet we rarely hear people complaining about BA, Delta, American, etc. for the same issues.
Ryanair has completely transformed air travel while still managing, more often than not, to keep prices well below its competitors. If Ryanair isn’t your thing, you’re free to fly with someone else but as someone who travels frequently, I can say other airlines are doing the same things.

I should also point out that the CAA won’t get involved unless there’s a clear breach of regulation, and to my understanding there hasn’t been one here.


Good post. 20/25 years ago, it would cost my company around £1000 to get from Edinburgh into a European country and take the best part of a day, having to usually connect at LHR.
Look at how cheaply and quickly you can get there now, thanks to the likes of Ryanair and EasyJet, breaking the monopoly of BA, Lufthansa, Air France, SAS and the like.




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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Thu 22 Jan 15:21

Agree with Raymie, that`s good advice from sacktheref69. I`ll just leave it, but given that Ryanair is really annoying I`ll only use it when there`s no viable alternative.



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Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sun 25 Jan 11:34

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red-star-par, Wed 21 Jan 20:39

I see Elon Musk has went on twitter to call the Ryanair main man a "special needs chimp"

You can tell Musk is well on the spectrum


100% he’s on the autism spectrum! Got to hand it to him for playing the cards he’s been dealt

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Topic Originator: fcda  
Date:   Wed 28 Jan 09:07

More shenanigans from easyJet...

EasyJet warned over `misleading` £5.99 cabin bag feehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cddgp9jgjz1o

Their ad said "from 5.99" but when challenged by the ASA they refused to provide details of how many can actually book at 5.99.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Wed 28 Jan 09:12

wizz have applied for approval to open up transatlantic services
https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/airports-networks/wizz-air-uk-seeks-us-approval-opens-door-transatlantic-services

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