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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 25 Mar 09:01
I`ve been blessed with good health for most of my life. Until I retired, the only time I`d been in hospital was for a tonsillectomy, aged 9. Since then, I`ve, at various times, been a patient at the QM, the Vic, the ERI, and even for a 4 day stay in the Golden Jubilee in Clydebank. On each and every occasion, I`ve found the NHS staff to be simply wonderful.
Yesterday I was back at the QM for an innovative procedure to shrink my prostate without the need for surgery. The 2 doctors who carried out the procedure, Ber and K, were simply brilliant, explaining every step and making me feel relaxed with their friendly banter. Two nurses, Emma and Nikita, were so friendly and helpful. The procedure took less than 15 mins and I was allowed to go home at lunchtime.
Later in the afternoon, I had a "technical problem" with the bag of the temporary catheter I`d had fitted. (Actually, it turned out to be dopeyness on my part.) I popped along to my GP Practice, but there was no doctor or nurse available to help, so I went back to the Urology Dept at QM. Dr K had finished his shift and was just leaving as I arrived. He asked what was wrong and I told him. He immediately said "Let`s have a look at it" and in spite of my protests, he insisted on returning and investigating my problem, along with a couple of nurses who all made a great fuss of me. When they pointed out where I`d gone wrong and I apologised for being such a numpty, they said no apology was needed and that I`d done the right thing in going back.
Oh and Mrs Riva googled the procedure to see if it was available in Italy now. It is but only privately, and will set you back around €9000.
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Thu 26 Mar 09:50)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 25 Mar 09:29
I too have had quite a lot of involvement with the NHS since I retired and my experience has been overwhelmingly favourable. I suspect that`s the case for most folk but commonplace stories like these aren`t newsworthy so we tend to get bombarded with tales of long waits, understaffing, misdiagnosis, poor hospital construction and infection control, etc which sap people`s confidence in the whole system. Gone are the days of the COVID epidemic when we were encouraged to `clap for the NHS.`
It must be tough working in the NHS in the present climate but I think in general they are exceptional people.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 25 Mar 09:46
Well, they have saved my life more than once and generally made it a good laugh while recovering.
They get my vote.
Swift return to complete health GG.
Post Edited (Wed 25 Mar 09:46)
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 25 Mar 09:49
Had a lot of contact with the Vic and QMH when my Mother passed away last July after a year of ill health.
Can only praise them for their dedication and kindness!❤️
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 25 Mar 16:03
Our NHS is superb
I hate it when waring political parties say its broken .. Its not broken .. Its us thats broken ..Society
I had Mrs BBP in A&E twice last year 7.5 hours and 6.5 hours The waiting room was filled with druggies .. drunks .. guys and gals handcuffed between 2 police officers who had to sit the full 7.5 and 6.5 we were there
My Pals old Mum fell last week and banged her head He got to A&E at 5pm and did not get home till 2.30 am the following morning and he said the waiting room was full of what I have just described
I saw a stat that over 3000 people went to A&E with the hiccups !!! .. It was never designed or intended for these idiots
Rant over .. Hope all goes well GG
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 25 Mar 16:37
Well, without meaning to politicise this thread, if you like the NHS, mind not vote Reform, or you`ll be paying through the nose for it
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 25 Mar 17:03
Quote:
Buspasspar, Wed 25 Mar 16:03
Our NHS is superb
I hate it when waring political parties say its broken .. Its not broken .. Its us thats broken ..Society
I had Mrs BBP in A&E twice last year 7.5 hours and 6.5 hours The waiting room was filled with druggies .. drunks .. guys and gals handcuffed between 2 police officers who had to sit the full 7.5 and 6.5 we were there
My Pals old Mum fell last week and banged her head He got to A&E at 5pm and did not get home till 2.30 am the following morning and he said the waiting room was full of what I have just described
I saw a stat that over 3000 people went to A&E with the hiccups !!! .. It was never designed or intended for these idiots
Rant over .. Hope all goes well GG
This is what I find maddening. If someone was waiting at A&E for 12 hours it`s because there were people with higher priority needs in front of them. If you can survive that long, wait until the next day and get a GP appointment or attend minor injuries.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 25 Mar 17:20
That`s not true jake.
If someone has an epileptic seizure, for example, that needs to be assessed at the time and will need bloods taken or scans organised. It takes time for those to be arranged, and the results to be assessed by the relevant consultant. I have had MRIs which need to be sent to a different hospital so a specialist consultant can assess.
And I have had more than once when the admin at A&E fails and you sit for 2 or 3 hours before they realise that they haven`t done anything with you. And it won`t just be me.....
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 25 Mar 17:22
Quote:
Buspasspar, Wed 25 Mar 16:03
Our NHS is superb
I hate it when waring political parties say its broken .. Its not broken .. Its us thats broken ..Society
I had Mrs BBP in A&E twice last year 7.5 hours and 6.5 hours The waiting room was filled with druggies .. drunks .. guys and gals handcuffed between 2 police officers who had to sit the full 7.5 and 6.5 we were there
My Pals old Mum fell last week and banged her head He got to A&E at 5pm and did not get home till 2.30 am the following morning and he said the waiting room was full of what I have just described
I saw a stat that over 3000 people went to A&E with the hiccups !!! .. It was never designed or intended for these idiots
Rant over .. Hope all goes well GG
I don`t think it is superb as a process. Most of the staff are brilliant but some of the process and equipment isn`t fit for the demand on it. I agree that the demand is too high, and some of that demand is from wasters.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Wed 25 Mar 18:37
I was in pain for a few years (it was internal and not a joint thing but couldn’t even walk round the block) and the nhs did next to nothing apart from telling me there would be a year or two waiting list to be seen.
Went private and was seen, checked, and two ops later (first was about 2 weeks after first seen) was on the road to recovery.
Not a great experience for me
Post Edited (Wed 25 Mar 18:46)
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Wed 25 Mar 18:55
Saved my life, so it`s a ❤️ from me.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 25 Mar 18:56
I have friends who have benefited from going private and getting quicker treatment than under the NHS and I don`t blame them for doing so, but the question I always ask is `if the staff who saw you privately had worked exclusively for the NHS (who presumably trained them) would you have been treated more quickly and efficiently for free?`
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 25 Mar 19:02
One would get treated quicker, yes, but if it would be quick enough is a different question.
Let`s take neurology treatment in Essex.... 62 weeks on NHS for a neurologist appointment, even if deemed urgent. Can get a private appointment in 2 or 3 weeks, and the doctor leaves the NHS hospital around 6pm, drives round the corner, gets out of his car and then starts charging 250 quid to give the same advice for a 30 minute appointment to patients who are also on the NHS waiting list.
That opportunity isn`t available to all, obviously.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 25 Mar 19:10
Quote:
ipswichpar, Wed 25 Mar 17:20
That`s not true jake.
If someone has an epileptic seizure, for example, that needs to be assessed at the time and will need bloods taken or scans organised. It takes time for those to be arranged, and the results to be assessed by the relevant consultant. I have had MRIs which need to be sent to a different hospital so a specialist consultant can assess.
And I have had more than once when the admin at A&E fails and you sit for 2 or 3 hours before they realise that they haven`t done anything with you. And it won`t just be me.....
Not sure what I said isn`t true. I said it`s by priority so a person whose had a seizure would presumably be high priority in the first instance so they can assess their stability.
And my second point was if you last a long time waiting in a queue you could have waited to see the GP. Appreciate not in all cases but the jakies in there on the weekend would be better off being sent home to sleep it off.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 25 Mar 20:01
A 12 hour wait doesn`t necessarily mean others are higher priority. Some of the stuff takes time. The right consultants need to be available etc. An inappropriately resourced organisation could lead to those delays. I have experienced more than 10 hours in 3 different parts of the country for what were urgent cases. It is way too simplistic to assume that everybody with this level of service is some sort of drunk that ca sleep it off and get a GP appointment the next morning (which are also hit and miss).
It is not true to assume the process is always correct, the prioritisation is always correct, and the resources are available. I have seen more than my fair share of 80 year olds in a corridor on a hospital bed who have been there for more than 24 hours.
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Topic Originator: Milos Drizzle
Date: Thu 26 Mar 08:15
Quote:
DBP, Wed 25 Mar 18:37
I was in pain for a few years (it was internal and not a joint thing but couldn’t even walk round the block) and the nhs did next to nothing apart from telling me there would be a year or two waiting list to be seen.
Went private and was seen, checked, and two ops later (first was about 2 weeks after first seen) was on the road to recovery.
Not a great experience for me
I was on the waiting list for an ENT appointment on the NHS. Ultimately took almost 2 years to be offered the first appointment. I knew it would take a while (not that long though!!) so took the private option straight away, and they were apologising I would have to wait 2 weeks for the first appointment as the surgeon was on holiday the following week. All done and dusted, including surgery, in a matter of months. So, aye, in many ways the NHS is broken.
This is my signature
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 26 Mar 09:31
Maybe my thread title should have been "Our Wonderful NHS Workers"?
That the NHS structure is slow and cumbersome is undeniable, but once you`re in the way I`ve been looked after has always been second to none.
Eta. Done it now.
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Thu 26 Mar 09:51)
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 26 Mar 09:49
Quote:
jake89, Wed 25 Mar 17:03
Quote:
Buspasspar, Wed 25 Mar 16:03
Our NHS is superb
I hate it when waring political parties say its broken .. Its not broken .. Its us thats broken ..Society
I had Mrs BBP in A&E twice last year 7.5 hours and 6.5 hours The waiting room was filled with druggies .. drunks .. guys and gals handcuffed between 2 police officers who had to sit the full 7.5 and 6.5 we were there
My Pals old Mum fell last week and banged her head He got to A&E at 5pm and did not get home till 2.30 am the following morning and he said the waiting room was full of what I have just described
I saw a stat that over 3000 people went to A&E with the hiccups !!! .. It was never designed or intended for these idiots
Rant over .. Hope all goes well GG
This is what I find maddening. If someone was waiting at A&E for 12 hours it`s because there were people with higher priority needs in front of them. If you can survive that long, wait until the next day and get a GP appointment or attend minor injuries.
I had to wait 12 hours to get seen for a hand with 5 breaks in it and i`m now minus a knuckle, are you duggesting i sleep it off and go see my gp?
Sit doon min😂
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Thu 26 Mar 10:44
It`s only a flesh wound Jake!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 26 Mar 12:52
Quote:
ipswichpar, Thu 26 Mar 10:44
It`s only a flesh wound Jake!
😂
Sorry to hear that Dandy. What I`m meaning by priority is for assessment. So presumably they took a look at you before those 12 hours and considered you`d be in pain and need treatment, but the guy who had chopped his arm off needed dealt with first? In your case it wouldn`t simply be a "take two paracetamol and get lost". It feels like there`s a gap between "this is a life threatening emergency" and "this needs dealt with urgently but the patient isn`t at immediate risk".
I suppose that given we only have one A&E for Fife a sort of "come back in 6 hours" solution for the latter wouldn`t work for someone who lives in Tayport or Cairneyhill.
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Thu 26 Mar 18:37
My daughter suffered a leg injury whilst playing rugby for her uni.
Taken straight to hospital - sat for 8 hours before being x-ray’d.
Four hours later, sent home in a ‘moon boot’, with word that ‘the consultant’ would be in touch once the assessment had been completed.
Two days later, in tears from the pain- with no contact from the hospital - I paid for taxi to the airport and flew her to Lux
Straight to hospital, seen, x-Ray, doctor horrified that she had been sent home, walking on a fractured fibula - booked into hospital immediately and operated next morning, metal plate with a load of screws…
Two days later, she’s out, with a cast, back in Scotland, back at uni.
The day after, a consultant phones to get her in…
Well done.
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Topic Originator: Dumpster
Date: Thu 26 Mar 19:05
I think NHS workers do a great job, but they do seemed to be hamstrung by lack of resource and inefficient systems & infrastructure, coupled with intense demand. Increasingly we’re seeing privatisation by the back door (or pretty blatant!). I’ve really struggled getting NHS dental treatment for tooth infection. Have gone private to get faster and better service, it pains me to say. I also have a number of family members who’ve been referred by NHS to specialist private dentists for work I wouldn’t consider particularly specialised e.g extractions, where family members then need to pick up the tab. This is a good thread with an election coming up, but not sure any of the parties have the wherewithal to address NHS needs.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Thu 26 Mar 20:58
The true workers on the ground are a credit you our NHS but I would say they are like dealers in a drug world where the top people are raking in millions per week and tbh middle people like consultants earn £££ but can work after hours(private)
to top up their wages.
As long as the medication keeps going the Pharma is getting£££ and profit.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Thu 26 Mar 21:56
Quote:
Dumpster, Thu 26 Mar 19:05
I think NHS workers do a great job, but they do seemed to be hamstrung by lack of resource and inefficient systems & infrastructure, coupled with intense demand. Increasingly we’re seeing privatisation by the back door (or pretty blatant!). I’ve really struggled getting NHS dental treatment for tooth infection. Have gone private to get faster and better service, it pains me to say. I also have a number of family members who’ve been referred by NHS to specialist private dentists for work I wouldn’t consider particularly specialised e.g extractions, where family members then need to pick up the tab. This is a good thread with an election coming up, but not sure any of the parties have the wherewithal to address NHS needs.
Yep, NHS dental care is a mess. Somehow it is managing to get even worse.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002r3nn?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 27 Mar 13:58
Just managed to get an NHS dentist that works in our private practice, a lovely girl just out of dental school.
Way cheaper than some of the dental plans we were expected to join!
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