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 Violence against women
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sat 8 Aug 13:05

Radio Scotland`s morning phone in programme has this week been highlighting this plague on our society. A woman is killed every month by a violent husband or partner, or an ex who cannot accept the end of a relationship. Thousands more are assaulted and injured by these male excuses for human beings. And that`s just the cases that are reported.....

One woman victim told a harrowing story of how she was brutally assaulted and raped the day before her 16th birthday. The man was caught and sentenced to 5 years. She said that when she reported the crime, no female police officer was present. The male officers made her feel that it was her own fault, by asking her questions like how long her skirt was and how low her neckline was.

How absolutely shocking!



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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 8 Aug 13:51

What I`ll never understand is that all men and boys have had or have a mum. Maybe they have a sister too. What would they do if a guy was creeping on a female relative or physically or verbally assaulting her.

Other men and boys need to call out the daft comments too as this is often masking far more concerning opinions/views. Just last week I saw on Facebook that a bunch of lads had been sending abusive messages to a teenage girl telling her she was getting raped and that they were going to "end" a baby in the house. I really hope that parent took it to the police as that`s mad behaviour from wee boys. What`s disturbing is the amount of mums who stand up for their sons behaviour.
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 8 Aug 18:08

There’s been such a high uptake on domestic abuse cases in Scotland that criminal defence and prosecution solicitors can’t cope.

Legal aid board fees for cases has stagnated since 1999 and the boycott by some legal defence firms and services means people aren’t getting justice and help when they so desperately need it.

No amount of tv advertising / police messages are getting through to the public.

I’ve no idea what the solution is, and it’s sad reading.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sat 8 Aug 18:25

It’s alright, Timmy Ten Names will arrange a protest about protecting our women and children where they will hurl abuse at women police officers…….
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 8 Aug 22:05

I hope the increase is a result of people feeling more able to come forward rather than accept it rather than because things are getting worse.

Yaxley-Lennon has plenty abusers in his posse of pricks but it`s fine as they`re white abusers not those horrid brown ones.
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 00:58

Absolutely braindead comments in here. You lot seem to think because there’s been protests about Muslim grooming gangs and the cover up by predominantly Labour Party members or illegal migration, people don’t care about domestic violence.

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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 09:19

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NMCmassive, Sun 9 Aug 00:58

Absolutely braindead comments in here. You lot seem to think because there’s been protests about Muslim grooming gangs and the cover up by predominantly Labour Party members or illegal migration, people don’t care about domestic violence.


Not "people", Yaxley-Lennon. Marching about going on about Muslim grooming gangs but never mentions the vast (almost 90%) majority of violence against women and girls is perpetrated by men who look like him.
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 09:58

Interestingly the figures reveal that there has also been an increase in domestic abuse cases where the perpetrator is female and the victim is male. Men are still more likely to be the victim of male violence than women are and far more men are murdered each year than women. None of that excuses the men behind the huge spike in domestic abuse over the last two years. Something is going very wrong with large swathes of male culture in our society.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 12:31

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jake89, Sun 9 Aug 09:19

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NMCmassive, Sun 9 Aug 00:58

Absolutely braindead comments in here. You lot seem to think because there’s been protests about Muslim grooming gangs and the cover up by predominantly Labour Party members or illegal migration, people don’t care about domestic violence.


Not "people", Yaxley-Lennon. Marching about going on about Muslim grooming gangs but never mentions the vast (almost 90%) majority of violence against women and girls is perpetrated by men who look like him.


Your problem with him doesn’t address the fact that 1 - he was right there are grooming gangs (still ongoing btw) and they are targeting non-Muslim girls for the fact they are non-Muslim.

2 - there was a political cover up of it because the Labour Party wanted the votes and the police were pressured to not be racist.

3-The scale of the Muslim rap gangs is on a scale not seen before.

Yes there are white grooming gangs as well but when that’s caught they all get arrested and sent to jail and it’s in the news. The Muslim rap gangs were swept under the carpet time and again.

Should we say it okay lads, bash on cos we can’t stop X percentage of crime from white people anyway?

How would you feel if it was your family members that were victims? Would you go out of your way to try and stop it from happening or would you just sit in the house?

COYP
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 12:33

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NMCmassive, Sun 9 Aug 00:58

Absolutely braindead comments in here. You lot seem to think because there’s been protests about Muslim grooming gangs and the cover up by predominantly Labour Party members or illegal migration, people don’t care about domestic violence.


There was quite literally a protest in England the other day, to get immigrants removed from a house, where protestor bit a female police officer……but aye its Labours fault 😂

Utter tosh about white groomers getting caught and jailed and Muslim ones don’t. How quickly can someone forget Mr Saville when trying to prove a point?

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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 14:23

No issue with ANY rapist or rape gangs being called out. Do take issue with people who pick and choose which ones to call out though. Yaxley-Lennon is an absolute grifter. He doesn`t really care. He just wants another gofundme.
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 14:43

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Dave_1885, Sun 9 Aug 12:33

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NMCmassive, Sun 9 Aug 00:58

Absolutely braindead comments in here. You lot seem to think because there’s been protests about Muslim grooming gangs and the cover up by predominantly Labour Party members or illegal migration, people don’t care about domestic violence.


There was quite literally a protest in England the other day, to get immigrants removed from a house, where protestor bit a female police officer……but aye its Labours fault 😂

Utter tosh about white groomers getting caught and jailed and Muslim ones don’t. How quickly can someone forget Mr Saville when trying to prove a point?


If you’ve got some spare time you should start with Raja Miah. He’s been talking about it for numerous years now - publicly. Even his unsubstantiated claims would libelous but for whatever reason, he’s never been challenged

Your Saville comment is pure disgusting btw.

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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 14:43

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jake89, Sun 9 Aug 14:23

No issue with ANY rapist or rape gangs being called out. Do take issue with people who pick and choose which ones to call out though. Yaxley-Lennon is an absolute grifter. He doesn`t really care. He just wants another gofundme.


Well if your family had been a victim, would you just sit in the house?

COYP
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 14:50

What was disgusting about his Saville point? Protected and shielded by the the authorities seemingly over decades.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 14:51

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The One Who Knocks, Sun 9 Aug 14:50

What was disgusting about his Saville point? Protected and shielded by the the authorities seemingly over decades.


I was about to ask the same question. I haven’t even mention Mr Mountbatten either….remember £12m of British Taxpayers money paid to a woman he had never met…..
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 15:00

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NMCmassive, Sun 9 Aug 14:43

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jake89, Sun 9 Aug 14:23

No issue with ANY rapist or rape gangs being called out. Do take issue with people who pick and choose which ones to call out though. Yaxley-Lennon is an absolute grifter. He doesn`t really care. He just wants another gofundme.


Well if your family had been a victim, would you just sit in the house?


They have and it was two white guys. They`re still walking around Edinburgh as far as I`m aware.
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 15:32

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jake89, Sun 9 Aug 15:00

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NMCmassive, Sun 9 Aug 14:43

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jake89, Sun 9 Aug 14:23

No issue with ANY rapist or rape gangs being called out. Do take issue with people who pick and choose which ones to call out though. Yaxley-Lennon is an absolute grifter. He doesn`t really care. He just wants another gofundme.


Well if your family had been a victim, would you just sit in the house?


They have and it was two white guys. They`re still walking around Edinburgh as far as I`m aware.


Well Tommy multi names cousins were victims of a Muslim gang and he’s gone out of his way to try and do something about it.

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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 15:36

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Dave_1885, Sun 9 Aug 14:51

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The One Who Knocks, Sun 9 Aug 14:50

What was disgusting about his Saville point? Protected and shielded by the the authorities seemingly over decades.


I was about to ask the same question. I haven’t even mention Mr Mountbatten either….remember £12m of British Taxpayers money paid to a woman he had never met…..


You were making it out like I was ignoring or forgetting Saville so to me that’s extremely offensive.

I don’t need to qualify what I think about Saville, the BBC and the royal family to anyone but if you want to look back at my previous comments about it - you’ll see my thoughts on that.

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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 15:37

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NMCmassive, Sun 9 Aug 15:32

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jake89, Sun 9 Aug 15:00

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NMCmassive, Sun 9 Aug 14:43

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jake89, Sun 9 Aug 14:23

No issue with ANY rapist or rape gangs being called out. Do take issue with people who pick and choose which ones to call out though. Yaxley-Lennon is an absolute grifter. He doesn`t really care. He just wants another gofundme.


Well if your family had been a victim, would you just sit in the house?


They have and it was two white guys. They`re still walking around Edinburgh as far as I`m aware.


Well Tommy multi names cousins were victims of a Muslim gang and he’s gone out of his way to try and do something about it.


Except he ONLY targets one demographic, thats the problem. He also completely bypasses the irony of the numerous domestic abusers that follow him or joined his group in the past.
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 15:59

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Dave_1885, Sun 9 Aug 15:37

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NMCmassive, Sun 9 Aug 15:32

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jake89, Sun 9 Aug 15:00

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NMCmassive, Sun 9 Aug 14:43

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jake89, Sun 9 Aug 14:23

No issue with ANY rapist or rape gangs being called out. Do take issue with people who pick and choose which ones to call out though. Yaxley-Lennon is an absolute grifter. He doesn`t really care. He just wants another gofundme.


Well if your family had been a victim, would you just sit in the house?


They have and it was two white guys. They`re still walking around Edinburgh as far as I`m aware.


Well Tommy multi names cousins were victims of a Muslim gang and he’s gone out of his way to try and do something about it.


Except he ONLY targets one demographic, thats the problem. He also completely bypasses the irony of the numerous domestic abusers that follow him or joined his group in the past.


Aw sorry Dave I didn’t realise he was supposed to be targeting people who weren’t involved

COYP
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 17:30

There is at least one of his associates who has been done for abusing women 🤦‍♂️
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 17:51

Kind of irrelevant isn’t it?

We should do nothing about an ongoing problem of systemic rap and abuse because someone associated with Tommy Robinson was found guilty of violence towards a woman.

Why is your focus of anger directed towards Tommy Robinson?

Why should that be a bigger concern than a grooming rap gang?

COYP
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 18:05

It`s irrelevant that a man standing up against violence against women and girls is mates with a convicted domestic abuser? 🤦‍♂️
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 19:11

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jake89, Sun 9 Aug 18:05

It`s irrelevant that a man standing up against violence against women and girls is mates with a convicted domestic abuser? 🤦‍♂️


What are you actually saying Jake? That we shouldn’t be doing anything about domestic abuse or grooming gangs because someone who worked at the same company as Tommy Robinson lost the head at an ex girlfriend and plead guilty afternoon throwing a chopping board at her? Like I’m not downplaying the incident, he’s been way out of line but what’s that got to do with a rape gang and why should have that any impact on trying to deal with rape gangs?

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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 19:29

I`ll break this down to keep it nice and simple.

Violence against women and girls is wrong.

People - men in particular - should call it out.

Yaxley-Lennon only calls out Muslims.

Yaxley-Lennon is pals with a convicted domestic abuser.

So, what Yaxley-Lennon is saying is Muslims shouldn`t abuse women, which is correct, but white guys can fire on.

Sadly, tonight a lot of women will be getting a beating because Rangers lost in the 93rd minute. The majority of those committing these violent acts will be white men.
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 19:36

Tommy Robinson is pals with more than 1 abuser. Just look at the EDL list of members convicted of domestic abuse. All his pals from those days that will back him to the hilt these days.

Where are his investigations into the Catholic Church child abuse scandals? Which are arguably bigger than the muslim grooming gangs?

If you can point me to this NMC I will gladly concede he is out there to get everyone and anyone…..
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 20:06

It doesn’t matter how many abusers he’s pals with does it? You 2 would prefer to talk about him than the actual subject.

Thats my point. Absolutely braindead.

Doesn’t matter what it is you’re so quick to bring up his name.

Let’s be honest, it’s him or Trump. You can’t help yourselves. Let’s just keep talking about them even when they’re irrelevant.

COYP

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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 20:08

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Dave_1885, Sun 9 Aug 19:36

Tommy Robinson is pals with more than 1 abuser. Just look at the EDL list of members convicted of domestic abuse. All his pals from those days that will back him to the hilt these days.

Where are his investigations into the Catholic Church child abuse scandals? Which are arguably bigger than the muslim grooming gangs?

If you can point me to this NMC I will gladly concede he is out there to get everyone and anyone…..


Why would he do an investigation into a church when it was a mosque that facilitated the rape of his cousin?

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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 9 Aug 20:27

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NMCmassive, Sun 9 Aug 20:08

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Dave_1885, Sun 9 Aug 19:36

Tommy Robinson is pals with more than 1 abuser. Just look at the EDL list of members convicted of domestic abuse. All his pals from those days that will back him to the hilt these days.

Where are his investigations into the Catholic Church child abuse scandals? Which are arguably bigger than the muslim grooming gangs?

If you can point me to this NMC I will gladly concede he is out there to get everyone and anyone…..


Why would he do an investigation into a church when it was a mosque that facilitated the rape of his cousin?


So all Muslims are the same because one group attacked his cousin? 🤔 because his stance is and I quote “Id get rid of Islam”…….yet not a peep about the Catholic Church? And you don’t seem to grasp the issue with it? And we are the braindead ones 🤦🏻‍♂️😂

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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Mon 10 Aug 09:47

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buffy, Sat 8 Aug 18:08

There’s been such a high uptake on domestic abuse cases in Scotland that criminal defence and prosecution solicitors can’t cope.

Legal aid board fees for cases has stagnated since 1999 and the boycott by some legal defence firms and services means people aren’t getting justice and help when they so desperately need it.

No amount of tv advertising / police messages are getting through to the public.

I’ve no idea what the solution is, and it’s sad reading.


You would think that the government would be looking to create more lawyers and have a look at some of the charging mechanisms..... it seems like there`s a standard rate for lawyers at most firms, which almost feels like some cartel behaviour that they are quite so consistent......

And the nonsense of charging 6 minutes worth of work for receiving an email is dodgy as well. It would be interesting to see how many hours a week your typical lawyer is charging vs how much they work.

I`m not sure there is a way to fix this buffy. I think of it as a 4 box true/false matrix. While (true is happened vs false it has been reported) would, I suspect, be the biggest number in that matrix there will also be a fair number of (false it happened vs true it has been reported) and understanding each of those to meet a criminal standard for conviction is just going to take way more time than the system can support.

Folk learning how to communicate without skelping each other would probably be a good first step.
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Mon 10 Aug 12:14

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Dave_1885, Sun 9 Aug 20:27

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NMCmassive, Sun 9 Aug 20:08

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Dave_1885, Sun 9 Aug 19:36

Tommy Robinson is pals with more than 1 abuser. Just look at the EDL list of members convicted of domestic abuse. All his pals from those days that will back him to the hilt these days.

Where are his investigations into the Catholic Church child abuse scandals? Which are arguably bigger than the muslim grooming gangs?

If you can point me to this NMC I will gladly concede he is out there to get everyone and anyone…..


Why would he do an investigation into a church when it was a mosque that facilitated the rape of his cousin?


So all Muslims are the same because one group attacked his cousin? 🤔 because his stance is and I quote “Id get rid of Islam”…….yet not a peep about the Catholic Church? And you don’t seem to grasp the issue with it? And we are the braindead ones 🤦🏻‍♂️😂


You’re brain dead because your focus is Tommy Robinson and not the crimes.

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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 10 Aug 13:47

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ipswichpar, Mon 10 Aug 09:47

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buffy, Sat 8 Aug 18:08

There’s been such a high uptake on domestic abuse cases in Scotland that criminal defence and prosecution solicitors can’t cope.

Legal aid board fees for cases has stagnated since 1999 and the boycott by some legal defence firms and services means people aren’t getting justice and help when they so desperately need it.

No amount of tv advertising / police messages are getting through to the public.

I’ve no idea what the solution is, and it’s sad reading.


You would think that the government would be looking to create more lawyers and have a look at some of the charging mechanisms..... it seems like there`s a standard rate for lawyers at most firms, which almost feels like some cartel behaviour that they are quite so consistent......

And the nonsense of charging 6 minutes worth of work for receiving an email is dodgy as well. It would be interesting to see how many hours a week your typical lawyer is charging vs how much they work.

I`m not sure there is a way to fix this buffy. I think of it as a 4 box true/false matrix. While (true is happened vs false it has been reported) would, I suspect, be the biggest number in that matrix there will also be a fair number of (false it happened vs true it has been reported) and understanding each of those to meet a criminal standard for conviction is just going to take way more time than the system can support.

Folk learning how to communicate without skelping each other would probably be a good first step.


The big problem nowadays is we`ve gotten really good at reporting and investigating crimes that there aren`t enough prisons spaces, courts, police or support staff. It`s why people are only serving half a jail term in most cases. It might be more of a threat if rapists were told their punishment was castration.
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Mon 10 Aug 16:22

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NMCmassive, Mon 10 Aug 12:14

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Dave_1885, Sun 9 Aug 20:27

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NMCmassive, Sun 9 Aug 20:08

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Dave_1885, Sun 9 Aug 19:36

Tommy Robinson is pals with more than 1 abuser. Just look at the EDL list of members convicted of domestic abuse. All his pals from those days that will back him to the hilt these days.

Where are his investigations into the Catholic Church child abuse scandals? Which are arguably bigger than the muslim grooming gangs?

If you can point me to this NMC I will gladly concede he is out there to get everyone and anyone…..


Why would he do an investigation into a church when it was a mosque that facilitated the rape of his cousin?


So all Muslims are the same because one group attacked his cousin? 🤔 because his stance is and I quote “Id get rid of Islam”…….yet not a peep about the Catholic Church? And you don’t seem to grasp the issue with it? And we are the braindead ones 🤦🏻‍♂️😂


You’re brain dead because your focus is Tommy Robinson and not the crimes.


My focus, in this instance, is on Tommy only focussing on one set of abusers based on their religion. I treat all abuse as equally bad whether the persons white, black, hispanic, catholic, muslim of Sikh…….as anyone should.
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Tue 11 Aug 00:16

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NMCmassive, Mon 10 Aug 12:14

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Dave_1885, Sun 9 Aug 20:27

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NMCmassive, Sun 9 Aug 20:08

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Dave_1885, Sun 9 Aug 19:36

Tommy Robinson is pals with more than 1 abuser. Just look at the EDL list of members convicted of domestic abuse. All his pals from those days that will back him to the hilt these days.

Where are his investigations into the Catholic Church child abuse scandals? Which are arguably bigger than the muslim grooming gangs?

If you can point me to this NMC I will gladly concede he is out there to get everyone and anyone…..


Why would he do an investigation into a church when it was a mosque that facilitated the rape of his cousin?


So all Muslims are the same because one group attacked his cousin? 🤔 because his stance is and I quote “Id get rid of Islam”…….yet not a peep about the Catholic Church? And you don’t seem to grasp the issue with it? And we are the braindead ones 🤦🏻‍♂️😂


You’re brain dead because your focus is Tommy Robinson and not the crimes.


My focus, in this instance, is on Tommy only focussing on one set of abusers based on their religion. I treat all abuse as equally bad whether the persons white, black, hispanic, catholic, muslim of Sikh…….as anyone should.




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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Tue 11 Aug 10:14

Brown people do it too.

I`ll just leave that there.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 11 Aug 12:40

I was hoping this thread would concentrate on violence against women in Scotland and the sometimes dubious approach to interviewing the victims of these abhorrent crimes by police officers.....



Not your average Sunday League player.
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Tue 11 Aug 13:11

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GG Riva, Tue 11 Aug 12:40

I was hoping this thread would concentrate on violence against women in Scotland and the sometimes dubious approach to interviewing the victims of these abhorrent crimes by police officers.....


I was hoping other threads wouldn`t turn into far left virtue signalling piffle but them`s the breaks i guess.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 11 Aug 16:27

I`d hope everyone can accept the violence against women and girls regardless of the perpetrators faith or skin colour is unacceptable and should not be tolerated.
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 13 Aug 20:02

28 year old teacher in Dunfermline been abusing a 15 year old student. Absolute animal.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Thu 13 Aug 20:43

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jake89, Thu 13 Aug 20:02

28 year old teacher in Dunfermline been abusing a 15 year old student. Absolute animal.


More to that story than meets the eye. Wasn`t his student. He was known to her. Scratched her head because she looked tired and touched her leg twice. He shouldn`t have done this, and has been convicted, but it`s not quite the sickening levels of abuse seen in other cases
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Thu 13 Aug 21:06

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red-star-par, Thu 13 Aug 20:43

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jake89, Thu 13 Aug 20:02

28 year old teacher in Dunfermline been abusing a 15 year old student. Absolute animal.


More to that story than meets the eye. Wasn`t his student. He was known to her. Scratched her head because she looked tired and touched her leg twice. He shouldn`t have done this, and has been convicted, but it`s not quite the sickening levels of abuse seen in other cases


Going on what was said in court, I think theres plenty to say the guys a creepy f**k.

“Montgomery, of Farm Road, Crombie, was found guilty of an offence that on February 17 and June 21 last year at Crossford and at his home, he sexually assaulted a girl then aged 15 years old by repeatedly touching and rubbing her leg.

The victim was known to Montgomery but was not one of his pupils.

The girl said in her evidence that she had gone to Montgomery’s home for a movie night.

They had been sitting next to each other on the sofa when Montgomery started to touch and grope her leg moving up to her thigh.

She said she “just sat there” and could not believe what Montgomery was doing when he started feeling her leg. It lasted for ten minutes and she told him to stop.

She said that Montgomery had told her he had “wanted to do it for a while” and later made her “pinkie promise” not to tell anyone.”

A 27 year old asking a 15 year old round for a movie night……..cut his balls off
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 14 Aug 13:10

What are the parents doing?

Alarm bells not going off?🤔😡
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 14 Aug 20:47

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LochgellyAlbert, Fri 14 Aug 13:10

What are the parents doing?

Alarm bells not going off?🤔😡


If he was a friend of the family then why would you question anything? He could have been a step uncle or something.
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 Re: Violence against women
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sat 15 Aug 16:27

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jake89, Fri 14 Aug 20:47

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LochgellyAlbert, Fri 14 Aug 13:10

What are the parents doing?

Alarm bells not going off?🤔😡


If he was a friend of the family then why would you question anything? He could have been a step uncle or something.


I’m with Lochgelly on this like. Some things are to obvious. I’d guess the likelihood is the parents didn’t know where she was or who she was with. 15 year olds do start making their own decisions - they’re not children anymore. To me that’s why he deserves an extremely harsh sentence. He was trying to take advantage of a younger person who didn’t know better.

I don’t know if the case fits the description of grooming but it can’t be far from it

COYP

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