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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 14 Aug 05:33
The West Midlands Fire Service has confirmed that the fires had multiple points of origin. That single fact rather settles the matter. This is not the work of a carelessly discarded cigarette, nor from some discarded barbecue. There is little doubt that what we are dealing with is arson, deliberate and intentional.
The cost exacted upon both wildlife and the people whose lives have been upended is immeasurable, just dreadful stuff.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 14 Aug 07:25
They arrested three boys aged 11, 12, 13 for deliberately starting grass fires in Staffordshire on Tuesday. With the tinderbox conditions caused by the record breaking summer across much of the country any firestarter won`t have to work hard to whip up an inferno.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 14 Aug 17:10
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Fri 14 Aug 07:25
They arrested three boys aged 11, 12, 13 for deliberately starting grass fires in Staffordshire on Tuesday. With the tinderbox conditions caused by the record breaking summer across much of the country any firestarter won`t have to work hard to whip up an inferno.
Stupid little boys. To be honest, folk will say they are young, too young to prosecute etc. but these kids need the harshest possible punishment available. Taken away from their families, into a young offenders institution. They need an example shown to other kids who might be tempted to do the same if they get off Scot free.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 14 Aug 19:33
Any person that thinks its ok to start a fire anywhere in these conditions needs their heads check and chucked in a padded cell.
England really is a tinder box right now, and the scenes of utter carnage in the West Midlands is up there with the scenes you’d normalise with American wildfires. It will only get worse too.
Climate change, whether man made or natural, is real and is clearly here to stay.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 16 Aug 19:33
The climate would be changing whether we were here or not.
We already know that.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Sun 16 Aug 19:42
Been driving over the Yorkshire moors today, from Halifax to Whitby. Absolutely tons of messages, on the side of the road warning of not having barbecues. Also, went to Leeds yesterday for a wander and went to Roundhay Park. Never saw a green bit of grass. The whole park was yellow and brown. Looked like a beach
Post Edited (Sun 16 Aug 19:43)
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Sun 16 Aug 20:52
NMC - did you ever study any of the following beyond S4 level: Chemistry? Physics? Meteorology?
If you did, you would consider the statement in your last post utterly ridiculous.
It`s fine to state opinion, but such statements have no basis in scientific fact, based on simple spectroscopic principles.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 16 Aug 21:41
It was always going to be kids causing bother. It seems to have been quieter this year but a couple of years ago the local tinks were starting fires all across Fife. That silly Tw*t at Fife Jammers would then promote it for them.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 17 Aug 08:08
Quote:
hurricane_jimmy, Sun 16 Aug 20:52
NMC - did you ever study any of the following beyond S4 level: Chemistry? Physics? Meteorology?
If you did, you would consider the statement in your last post utterly ridiculous.
It`s fine to state opinion, but such statements have no basis in scientific fact, based on simple spectroscopic principles.
Are you saying theres no scientific evidence that the earths climate changes without human interference? 🤔
Not saying that humans havent advanced this current change in the last 200 years with burning of fossil fuels, but ice ages and droughts happened long before humans discovered coal….
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 17 Aug 09:04
I’m saying the obvious.
Either your minds are so twisted by ideology that you can’t comprehend it or you want to have a go at me for whatever reason but it won’t get away from the fact the climate has always changed since the earth was conceived. Billions of years before dinosaurs were on the earth - the climate was changing.
No amount of climate activism changes that.
COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 17 Aug 09:09
Quote:
hurricane_jimmy, Sun 16 Aug 20:52
NMC - did you ever study any of the following beyond S4 level: Chemistry? Physics? Meteorology?
If you did, you would consider the statement in your last post utterly ridiculous.
It`s fine to state opinion, but such statements have no basis in scientific fact, based on simple spectroscopic principles.
😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What a lot of absolute rubbish
Do you honestly believe that the climate on the earth has been the same for 4.5billionish years up until around 150years ago when humans started climate change?
COYP
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 17 Aug 09:58
100 million barrels of oil burned everyday. That`s thirty odd billion barrels a year. Every year for the last 100 years. I don`t know how much coal but it`s in the hundred of billions of tonnes and then you`ve got all the natural gas that`s also been burned. All that carbon that was locked away beneath the surface of the earth since before dinosaurs were roaming around is now out in the atmosphere. No offence intended to anyone here but only an idiot would think that wouldn`t have an impact on our climate.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 17 Aug 12:30
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Mon 17 Aug 09:58
100 million barrels of oil burned everyday. That`s thirty odd billion barrels a year. Every year for the last 100 years. I don`t know how much coal but it`s in the hundred of billions of tonnes and then you`ve got all the natural gas that`s also been burned. All that carbon that was locked away beneath the surface of the earth since before dinosaurs were roaming around is now out in the atmosphere. No offence intended to anyone here but only an idiot would think that wouldn`t have an impact on our climate.
I’ve not seen anyone saying it definitely doesn’t. It’s actually helped improve things for plants and trees though and it still doesn’t mean that only humans drive climate change. Humans will have an impact cos there’s 8 billion of us but we are not the only impact on the climate are we? How did the climate change before we got here?
COYP
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 17 Aug 14:51
Was watching Antiues Roadshow and they had curling memorabilia featured, pictures showed them curling on the frozen Scottish lochs.
I take it that no longer happens due to climate change?
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 17 Aug 15:12
Don’t know. We did apparently invent ice hockey tho.
COYP
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 17 Aug 16:15
Did Lord Elgin not keep them going till the Sixties?
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Mon 17 Aug 17:51
Quote:
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert like
Date: Mon 17 Aug 14:51
Was watching Antiues Roadshow and they had curling memorabilia featured, pictures showed them curling on the frozen Scottish lochs.
I take it that no longer happens due to climate change?
The little ice age.
"NASA Earth Observatory notes three particularly cold intervals. One began about 1650, another about 1770, and the last in 1850, all of which were separated by intervals of slight warming."
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 17 Aug 19:43
Got to remember climate change isnt just the heat. Aberdeenshire suffered some of their worst snow on record just 6 months ago.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Mon 17 Aug 20:56
Yeah....wind, rain or shine they got ya.
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Mon 17 Aug 21:24
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Mon 17 Aug 14:51
Was watching Antiues Roadshow and they had curling memorabilia featured, pictures showed them curling on the frozen Scottish lochs.
I take it that no longer happens due to climate change?
Bonspiels. Just as before they`ll have them when the ice is thick enough. I don`t think it was ever a thing that necessarily happened every year and I`m sure they`ve not had the final one.
Depending on what happens with the gulf stream if/when the ice caps melt, our climate might move to be more inline with other places on our latitude, eg Labrador, the Aleutians and Kamchatka. But then it`ll change in those places too.
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The universe is ruled by chance and indifference
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Tue 18 Aug 00:08
Natural events do affect climate change (volcanic eruptions particularly) but not on the same scales as we`re seeing now, however to claim that the CO2 in the atmosphere and it`s increase since the industrial revolution are not having an effect on climate and healthy is so unbelievably stupid.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Wed 19 Aug 23:13
Quote:
hurricane_jimmy, Tue 18 Aug 00:08
Natural events do affect climate change (volcanic eruptions particularly) but not on the same scales as we`re seeing now, however to claim that the CO2 in the atmosphere and it`s increase since the industrial revolution are not having an effect on climate and healthy is so unbelievably stupid.
I’ll explain it as clearly as I can.
Atmospheric CO2 is currently about 0.042% (420–430 ppm). It was less than 300ppm pre-industrial revolution. Plants use CO2 for photosynthesis - it’s basically plant food. Since C02 has increased, so has the amount of plants and trees worldwide. Satellite measurements from 1982–2015 found that roughly 35% of the world’s vegetated land showed significant increases in leaf area. Basically the world is greener so we’re seeing more biological activity and carbon uptake.
Did you know we’re still officially exiting an ice age? If you want to be really anal about it, it’s described as “an interglacial period within the current ice age”
Using ice core samples, scientists know there have been periods of cooling and warming that were vastly more intense than temperature changes we’re seeing today. Sometimes with C02, sometimes without.
So as I said, of course 8 billion of us are having an effect but to claim we’re the main driver is disingenuous in my opinion, especially given the evidence of the earths past. There’s a huge industry around climate change now and it’s got to make money to feed itself. Which funnily enough renewables/green energy/carbon neutral is now being backed by all O&G and petrochemical industries… cos there’s money in it.
BTW, the ice core samples showing the temperature variations are wild. Really interesting.
COYP
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