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Topic Originator: Gem 1977
Date: Thu 2 Nov 16:46
Game live on BBC and has been moved to Friday 24th.
Here's to the first of the day, fellas! To old D.H. Lawrence.
Neh! Neh! Neh! Fuh! Fuh! Fuh! Indians
Post Edited (Thu 02 Nov 16:49)
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Thu 2 Nov 17:25
Price it correctly and it will still be a big crowd, we will get some money from the BBC also I would have thought.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 2 Nov 17:31
Quote:
Par, Thu 2 Nov 17:25
Price it correctly and it will still be a big crowd, we will get some money from the BBC also I would have thought.
£15 a ticket and get the place full…
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 2 Nov 17:49
Quote:
Dave_1885, Thu 2 Nov 17:31
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Par, Thu 2 Nov 17:25
Price it correctly and it will still be a big crowd, we will get some money from the BBC also I would have thought.
£15 a ticket and get the place full…
You could be right on the money with your suggestion, Dave. Our CEO is no mug. I`m sure he`ll be giving admission prices his careful consideration. 🙂
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 2 Nov 18:20
Aye, price this right, get a full house on TV and show everyone who the big team is
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Topic Originator: istvan kozma
Date: Thu 2 Nov 18:25
I suspect prices will be eye watering. Both clubs must agree the pricing
KOZMA
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 2 Nov 18:28
Do the Pars and the Rovers share the TV fee - ie it doesn`t go into the `pool` to be shared by all clubs?
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Topic Originator: elvis_lives
Date: Thu 2 Nov 19:21
3.5k each for TV
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 2 Nov 19:55
£3.5k!!!??? Isn`t it more like £35k each?
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Topic Originator: evo!
Date: Thu 2 Nov 19:57
We`ve got a lot of home games coming up and a new year derby which will bring in a big crowd
Go tenner for adults and fiver for oaps/kids and pack it out
BEAST!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 2 Nov 20:07
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 2 Nov 19:55
£3.5k!!!??? Isn`t it more like £35k each?
Sadly £3.5k each is correct
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 2 Nov 20:24
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 2 Nov 20:07
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 2 Nov 19:55
£3.5k!!!??? Isn`t it more like £35k each?
Sadly £3.5k each is correct
So, in effect, the clubs whose tie is selected for TV coverage are effectively being penalised? It won`t take many missing fans to swallow up that derisory sum.
Why do the Championship clubs put up with this? When are they going to grow a set and tell the SPFL to do one? The same SPFL that exists to look after the best interests of all its member clubs....
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 2 Nov 20:30
£3.5k! That is rediculous. That really means that if the cost of a ticket was £20, then if any more than 350 people decide to stay at home and watch on TV then both clubs lose out.
I`m sure I remember when we had a televised Cup game with Livingston in the mid 2000s, that a figure of £80k from the TV company was agreed. Whoever arranged that deal at £3.5k needs sacked
Post Edited (Thu 02 Nov 20:32)
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Topic Originator: vasco
Date: Thu 2 Nov 20:39
It’s the SFA that’s to blame for negotiating the TV deal.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 2 Nov 21:01
Quote:
GG Riva, Thu 2 Nov 20:24
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 2 Nov 20:07
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wee eck, Thu 2 Nov 19:55
£3.5k!!!??? Isn`t it more like £35k each?
Sadly £3.5k each is correct
So, in effect, the clubs whose tie is selected for TV coverage are effectively being penalised? It won`t take many missing fans to swallow up that derisory sum.
Why do the Championship clubs put up with this? When are they going to grow a set and tell the SPFL to do one? The same SPFL that exists to look after the best interests of all its member clubs....
The Scottish Cup is an SFA ran competition GG, so complaining to the SPFL about it would be like moaning to UEFA about a FIFA problem
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 2 Nov 21:03
Quote:
istvan kozma, Thu 2 Nov 18:25
I suspect prices will be eye watering. Both clubs must agree the pricing
Surely a month before Xmas, with another derby due then as well, both clubs boards will come together and be sensible about this?
Anything more than £18 an adult would be poor IMO. Got to remember that Season Tickets aren’t valid either, so the extra income from those sales would be a boost - pricing higher, on a Friday night, on the telly may push more fans away than bring in.
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Thu 2 Nov 21:23
£15 and £10 with under 12`s £5 when accompanied by an adult max 2 U12`s per adult.
The whole of the North Stand open also
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Thu 2 Nov 21:29
A great game to attend. With both teams very evenly matched and the wee team having the edge, why would any Pars fan not want to be there? And regardless of the fee level from the BBC a bit of a boost to the confidence to be singled out as the game of the round. Maybe small sign of the good days returning to East End Park.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Thu 2 Nov 21:37
I`m broke, it`s right before Christmas and have an extremely busy life right now so I`m welcoming it being on the telly. But yeah, given the TV will mean a net loss for the club I`d rather it wasn`t on at all.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 2 Nov 21:42
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Thu 2 Nov 20:53
Quote:
vasco, Thu 2 Nov 20:39
It’s the SFA that’s to blame for negotiating the TV deal.
It’s not 3.5k per game. Typical .net nonsense
Wrong again.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Fri 3 Nov 06:21
Quote:
Dave_1885, Thu 2 Nov 21:01
Quote:
GG Riva, Thu 2 Nov 20:24
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 2 Nov 20:07
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 2 Nov 19:55
£3.5k!!!??? Isn`t it more like £35k each?
Sadly £3.5k each is correct
So, in effect, the clubs whose tie is selected for TV coverage are effectively being penalised? It won`t take many missing fans to swallow up that derisory sum.
Why do the Championship clubs put up with this? When are they going to grow a set and tell the SPFL to do one? The same SPFL that exists to look after the best interests of all its member clubs....
The Scottish Cup is an SFA ran competition GG, so complaining to the SPFL about it would be like moaning to UEFA about a FIFA problem
My bad, Dave. Still, my point stands. Why did the clubs not throw out this insulting offer when it was put before them? Did they not vote on it? If not, why not and is it legally binding?
Some 20 years ago, the BBC was televising a top flight game on a Sunday afternoon. It was a bit of a disaster for 10 of the 12 SPL clubs (no prizes for guessing who the exceptions were) as the live game invariably featured Celtic or Rangers as the away side. Nevertheless, the BBC paid £50k to the home team and £45k to the visitors. How much would that equate to today?
It was a disaster, though, because attendances for these games were well down on what might be expected. A Pars director at the time told me that the £50k barely covered the loss of gate money as our attendances were usually about 3,000 short of what might normally be expected.
Meanwhile, the Glasgow clubs would pocket a wee bonus of £45k from almost every away game. Money for nothing (and your chicks for free.) ☹️
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 3 Nov 06:35
The TV deals are a joke. I`m sure that the money for the championship games moved to Friday for TV gets put in the "big pot" and split between ass Scottish clubs.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 3 Nov 11:00
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Fri 3 Nov 06:35
The TV deals are a joke. I`m sure that the money for the championship games moved to Friday for TV gets put in the "big pot" and split between ass Scottish clubs.
Correct - SPFL TV money is all generated into one pot and split based on final league standings from 1st to 42nd over all 4 leagues. Its swings and roundabouts really - Championship clubs must appear something like 4 times each? As per the contract, but League 2 teams wont feature at all - but League 2 teams will receive TV money….
On GGs point - Im not entirely sure, but does the tv money increase per round? Wouldn’t be a shock if certain clubs backed a higher price for later rounds knowing they would have a better chance of advancing…
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 3 Nov 11:35
If you click on the link in kelty par`s post at 21:09 yesterday you`ll see the TV money for each round and the prize money for elimination at each stage of the competition.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 3 Nov 15:31
Quote:
vasco, Thu 2 Nov 20:39
It’s the SFA that’s to blame for negotiating the TV deal.
Presumably the clubs agreed to this way back at the negotiations stage ? I wonder if DAFC and/or RR dissented and voted no ?
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Fri 3 Nov 17:09
The TV money used to be higher but the SFA decided to award more prize money, especially in the early rounds as it was seen to be fairer than rewarding clubs (and let`s be honest, when it gets to the latter stages we all know the clubs who will be shown - Premier/Viaplay would take Rangers or Celtic v Gala Fairydean even if other ties like Hibs v Hearts or Dundee Utd v Dundee were drawn out) for being on the telly.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Fri 3 Nov 17:17
Quote:
kelty_par, Fri 3 Nov 17:09
The TV money used to be higher but the SFA decided to award more prize money, especially in the early rounds as it was seen to be fairer than rewarding clubs (and let`s be honest, when it gets to the latter stages we all know the clubs who will be shown - Premier/Viaplay would take Rangers or Celtic v Gala Fairydean even if other ties like Hibs v Hearts or Dundee Utd v Dundee were drawn out) for being on the telly.
I mean imagine Gala Fairydean at home to rangers or celtic, or hibs or hearts for that matter, imagine the revenue that brings for Fairydean, and even better if they shock the whole of scotland by winning, in no way is the tv deal good for anyone in the lower eshelons of scottish football, but that type of tie is perfect for the telly 🤡🤡
COYP
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Fri 3 Nov 18:08
Gala at home to an SPFL Premiership team? Absolutely. At Ibrox or Parkhead? Not for me, Clive.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 4 Nov 09:49
Quote:
kelty_par, Fri 3 Nov 18:08
Gala at home to an SPFL Premiership team? Absolutely. At Ibrox or Parkhead? Not for me, Clive.
Think about the money a team like Gala could recieve from both scenarios though?
COYP
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Sat 4 Nov 10:22
Would fund the club for years. And then some.
If we dispatch the wee team, I`d happily take Gala at home next round. About time we put together a cup run.
Ep.17 of East End Tales is out now with Andrius Skerla
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/15082607
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 4 Nov 10:23
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EastEndTales, Sat 4 Nov 10:22
Would fund the club for years. And then some.
If we dispatch the wee team, I`d happily take Gala at home next round. About time we put together a cup run.
A trip to hampden for a semi final would be braw
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 4 Nov 10:54
Quote:
kelty_par, Fri 3 Nov 18:08
Gala at home to an SPFL Premiership team? Absolutely. At Ibrox or Parkhead? Not for me, Clive.
Any lowland league club wouldnt care about the telly if they got drawn at Parkhead/Ibrox 😂
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Sat 4 Nov 10:57
Quote:
kelty_par, Fri 3 Nov 18:08
Gala at home to an SPFL Premiership team? Absolutely. At Ibrox or Parkhead? Not for me, Clive.
Premier Sports/Viaplay have taken both Rangers and Celtic games, regardless of who/where they are playing in every round they have been in, every year so far. It’s not what a lot of us want to see, but it’s what happens.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 4 Nov 11:15
Quote:
par-91, Sat 4 Nov 10:57
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kelty_par, Fri 3 Nov 18:08
Gala at home to an SPFL Premiership team? Absolutely. At Ibrox or Parkhead? Not for me, Clive.
Premier Sports/Viaplay have taken both Rangers and Celtic games, regardless of who/where they are playing in every round they have been in, every year so far. It’s not what a lot of us want to see, but it’s what happens.
No i agree, i think constantly seeing them 2 is tarnishing scotlands repuation in other parts of the world, i mean there are many derbies in the scotland in lower tiers that are way more entertaining than any old firm ive seen in the past couple years
COYP
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Sat 4 Nov 11:21
Is the game on the Friday night - hope not as won’t be able to make it if it is
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 4 Nov 11:23
Quote:
DBP, Sat 4 Nov 11:21
Is the game on the Friday night - hope not as won’t be able to make it if it is
I believe its the 24th of november, which is a friday yes
COYP
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