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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 14 Dec 21:29
Bene, Breen and Fisher all available but a sickness bug sweeping EEP meant training was cancelled today. Hopefully nobody is affected badly enough to miss out on Saturday.
Bit of a conundrum for the manager then…..does he change the central defence or at least start the game with the two who have been playing well ?
Post Edited (Thu 14 Dec 21:30)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 14 Dec 22:01
I believe they have been training but not sure that translates into being available ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: 27468
Date: Thu 14 Dec 22:10
If it`s the dreadful winter sickness bug that`s been going round this last month or so I can`t see how they`ll be able to leave their house let alone train.
It really is grim 😕.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 14 Dec 22:22
Yup looks like Norovirus is doing the rounds big time this year - caught it after a week in new job where have to take 48 hours off as per contract - not a great start 😂
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 14 Dec 22:29
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend like
Date: Thu 14 Dec 22:01
I believe they have been training but not sure that translates into being available ?
JM states that “ They are all available “.
Personally I prefer to see a player who has been out for a while eased back in rather than coming straight back in. Fisher should available but must admit I would be surprised if Bene or Breen are in the squad this week. Let’s hope Hamilton and/or Otoo have not caught the bug……
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Kozmano1
Date: Sat 16 Dec 08:08
I fancy us to get the win today. It’s good we are getting our full squad back. Onwards and upwards.
I’m down south this weekend, so won’t be there. I’ve got tickets for Southampton v Blackburn today, so hopefully watch a good standard of football for a change.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 16 Dec 10:38
I would imagine Fisher/Bene/Breen will be on the bench if not in the starting XI unless they are victims of the `bug`.
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Topic Originator: the saline hill puma
Date: Sat 16 Dec 11:02
Can see Fisher starting and Comrie moving to RWB, ohalloran struggled defensively when we played Patrick away
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 13:48
Someone is really due an absolute belting from us, and im hoping its today
COYP
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Topic Originator: NikNakPar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 14:09
No summers today. Assuming he has the virus mcpake was talking about
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Topic Originator: parak obama
Date: Sat 16 Dec 14:24
DUNFERMLINE: Deniz Mehmet: Sam Fisher, Chris Hamilton (c), Ewan Otoo: Michael O’Halloran, Paul Allan, Joe Chalmers, Josh Edwards: Matty Todd, Alex Jakubiak, Lewis McCann.
SUBS NOT USED: Aaron Comrie, Rhys Breen, Owen Moffat, Miller Fenton, Liam Hoggan, Ewan McLeod, Jake Sutherland, Harry Sharp (GK), Max Little (GK)
PARTICK THISTLE: Jamie Sneddon: Jack McMillan, Aaron Muirhead, Lewis Neilson, Harry Milne: Ben Stanway, Kerr McInroy: Steven Lawless, Blair Alston, Aidan Fitzpatrick: Brian Graham (c).
SUBS NOT USED: Tomi Adeloye, Scott Robinson, Ricco Diack, Ola Williams, Stuart Bannigan, Nathan McGinley, Ben Williamson, Zander Mackenzie, David Mitchell (GK)
REFEREE: Chris Graham
[IMG]https://share2.co.uk/f/1152_471_P300411_16.49_[02].jpg[/IMG]
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 16 Dec 14:32
Wighton missing too….
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 14:53
And hosler, injured I take it?
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Topic Originator: yorkiepar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:05
Seriously, AlterPar? Have you been having a very long lie-in?
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:08
Unfortunately the stresses of life don’t afford me the opportunity to check on the pars every day. Hope it’s ok to ask another question in the future pal
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:11
He dislocated his shoulder. Had an opp this week I think.
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Topic Originator: yorkiepar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:12
Sorry, no offence intended. But KRH’s long-standing injury issues have been top of the agenda for ages.
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Topic Originator: Swisspar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:18
0-1, free header for Partick.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:19
Edwards lost his man for that goal ! a bad goal to lose
We need to get into them , giving them too much room
As i type this how did jakubiak miss there ?
Certainly did the hard work and misses a glorious chance for the equaliser
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:21
Short corner. Couldn’t stop the cross. Free header. Right down the middle.
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:21
Mehmet needs to start coming for crosses shocking goalkeeping
G.B
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:22
It really was a free header. Even the corner they scored from was conceded really needlessl. A shame as it had been a decent enough start. Couple of nice switches of play by Fisher and Todd, some slightly quicker passing. Sadly now we`re a goal down Partick can just sit in and we`ve resorted to the slow slow stuff and Chalmers is predictably having a stinker already.
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:29
Partick are better than us. We struggle to get anything out of games when we give teams that are worse than us a 1 goal lead never mind teams that are half decent.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:32
gordi-b I would like to see mehmet command his 6yard box better too , stays on his line far too much !
partick are definately a wee bit sharper than us , but we need to speed things up not this tippy tappy stuff
We aren`t doing too bad but need to get in their faces much more
Post Edited (Sat 16 Dec 15:33)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:41
Speed things up? Tippy tappy?
It’s not back to Allen and chalmers in the middle is it? What happened to summers?
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: yorkiepar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:41
Wulliepar, I think I prefer Socks’s version - Pishy Pashy!
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:45
That`s Fisher gubbed again then.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:48
Three goalkeepers and they`re all garbage.
2-0 and it might be time to go home and put the heating on.
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:49
Quote:
gordi-b, Sat 16 Dec 15:21
Mehmet needs to start coming for crosses shocking goalkeeping
Bad idea it turns out.
And also the perfect time to leave the stadium.
Gifting Partick goals home and away canny beat it.
Post Edited (Sat 16 Dec 15:49)
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Topic Originator: 2004Par
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:50
Watching on parstv had good angle, that was extremely poor from mehmet a simple catch that any Keeper should make .
Post Edited (Sat 16 Dec 15:50)
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:50
Dennis pennis is pi$#, we are defo finding out why he was never a 1st team player anywhere else
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Topic Originator: Swisspar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:51
0-t, hot potato for Mehmet, defence ball watching the rebound.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:51
Mehmet having a stinker, at fault for both goals.
The first, yes Partick got a clear header but right at Mehmet, should’ve been saved.
Second was just a calamity.
Been a pretty even an uneventful game as well, throwing it away.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:52
Can’t see us anything from the match. This group of players will not have us challenging at the top end of the table. Badly need 2-3 in the January window. Same old garbage served up at East end park against the better teams.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:52
Table probably a fair reflection; Partick, Raith and Utd are all comfortably better than us. Just hope we can nick a playoff spot.
Central midfield looks the weak link again so far today.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:53
Thought Moffat had been doing pretty well breaking up the play and grabbing himself some goals, now he’s just sat on the bench
Effe
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:54
Maybe we should just rest the players against the top 3? Clearly it’s a leap to far and they can easily exploit our obvious weaknesses.
Mehmet will be taking a very good wage from us until May 2026. We simply won’t be able to improve when the experienced players who are signed on good money for years to come are the ones holding the team back. Zero chance of offloading them either.
It’s not their fault it who signed them.
Post Edited (Sat 16 Dec 15:56)
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:54
Just when you think we have turned a corner and I go to the game with a bit of a spring in my step, we are subjected to that……Need a rocket up their backside..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 16 Dec 15:55
Brutal yet again. No fight and far too many players not getting into position and hiding away. Partick are street ahead of us without being fantastic. They’re just far more organised. Mehmet was brutal for both goals and Edwards was shocking for the first as well. This could be 4 or 5 unless we seriously get our act together.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:01
Mehmet badly at fault there. What a non-event so far. Lacklustre doesn`t even begin to describe us
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:03
We have let ourselves down here by conceding from 2 set peices
2nd goal was criminal from Mehmet ! How many mistakes has he made since he came back from injury ?
We are at home again and we would be as well playing all our games away because we do not make Home an advantage for us this season it is no fortress ! and it should be ,But if you lose simple basic goals you do not deserve to win a game , I am always the realist and right now I cannot see where we are going to get a goal from !
let`s hope we get a reaction in the second half but really cannot see it ,
To say I am disappointed is an understatement
Post Edited (Sat 16 Dec 16:04)
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:06
Yorkiepar I think I will use his version going forward
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:09
Quote:
wulliepar57, Sat 16 Dec 16:03
We have let ourselves down here by conceding from 2 set peices
2nd goal was criminal from Mehmet ! How many mistakes has he made since he came back from injury ?
We are at home again and we would be as well playing all our games away because we do not make Home an advantage for us this season it is no fortress ! and it should be ,But if you lose simple basic goals you do not deserve to win a game , I am always the realist and right now I cannot see where we are going to get a goal from !
let`s hope we get a reaction in the second half but really cannot see it ,
To say I am disappointed is an understatement
Maybe it would help make east end a fortress if folk didnt boo after 1 misplaced pass, i find some fans embarrassing at times, moaning about little stupid things, some people really arent happy are they
COYP
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:21
Against half decent opposition we have no threat what so ever. Terrible going forward.
Defence is woeful due to injuries.
Goalkeepers are laughable.
Get little in next game why not.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:22
Shelleypar I totally agree regarding booing your own players ,
But This season it is hard to think of where we have put a performance in at home to give us some hope that when we go a goal behind that we can turn it around
Hopefully today it is a game of two halves
we seem to huff and puff but no quality when we get chances , we always choose the wrong options
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:24
Quote:
wulliepar57, Sat 16 Dec 16:22
Shelleypar I totally agree regarding booing your own players ,
But This season it is hard to think of where we have put a performance in at home to give us some hope that when we go a goal behind that we can turn it around
Hopefully today it is a game of two halves
we seem to huff and puff but no quality when we get chances , we always choose the wrong options
Nah i get that, but it clearly makes them all nervy when they get booed after 5 MINS
COYP
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:30
I didn’t hear boos until half time…
In fact, in the first half I didn’t hear anything - crowd totally lethargic - even the drummer boy only got going once
Post Edited (Sat 16 Dec 16:32)
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:33
Mayhe players shouldn`t misplace 5 yard passes? And if getting a few disapproving moans is enough to put you off your game, maybe professional football isn`t for you?
Anyway, same as usual from us against any half way competent opposition. Slow in possession, slack on the ball, terrible at defending set pieces and no nous to do the dirty things or the wee professional fouls. I can`t get to many away games at the moment but part of me is considering patching the home games and just going away when I can. Games at home are so dull.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:41
Ive given up when booing them at games tbh, its pointless and a waste of my own air 😂 although I did enter a tirade at FT of Rovers cup game!
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:43
The fight back is on !!
Heres hoping we can create another chance or two
Post Edited (Sat 16 Dec 16:44)
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:44
Quote:
kelty_par, Sat 16 Dec 16:33
Mayhe players shouldn`t misplace 5 yard passes? And if getting a few disapproving moans is enough to put you off your game, maybe professional football isn`t for you?
Anyway, same as usual from us against any half way competent opposition. Slow in possession, slack on the ball, terrible at defending set pieces and no nous to do the dirty things or the wee professional fouls. I can`t get to many away games at the moment but part of me is considering patching the home games and just going away when I can. Games at home are so dull.
Oh sorry i forgot footballers can make no mistakes, wow, my apologies, i forgot they are meant to be perfect, and u honestly think that booing after 5 mins is really really warranted and needed, get a grip kid
COYP
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Topic Originator: yorkiepar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:45
Steady on, Wulliepar. Think you’re maybe getting a wee bit carried away 😂
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Topic Originator: incognito
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:46
The prospect of paying Mehmet`s wages for another 2 years has to be considered in whether to replace him. A good keeper can be the difference between going up or going down in the championship. The rumored £1500 per week over 2 years has to be less than the potential loss of not progressing in the same 2 years.
We are in desperate need of a proper midfielder Joe Chalmers just isn`t good enough for the Championship and unfortunately neither is Allan(good enough squad player). Personally I would go and try get Dillon Easton on a pre contract next month and explore the option of Byrne both would massively improve us going forward. I know Wighton was great for us last season when he was fit but at this level he offers very little at the very least McCann offers pace and and is a nuisance as for Jak the jury is still out. No chance of finding a goal scorer in January but something has to change up top because we offer nothing.
"Did you see what happened to the magic car?
It turned into a street!"
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:52
Yorkiepar , I always get carried away LOL
But on the second half performance and chances we have had ,I think we really deserve the draw !
As you know giving a decent team 2 goals of a start it`s always an uphill battle though , always better to score first, changes the complexion of the game
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:58
I think that is one point gained out of eighteen available against the top three teams- shows the gulf.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 16 Dec 16:58
Well too little too late !
The damage was done in the first half by basic errors again , Mehmet`s xmas presents to Partick
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:03
Quote:
incognito, Sat 16 Dec 16:46
The prospect of paying Mehmet`s wages for another 2 years has to be considered in whether to replace him. A good keeper can be the difference between going up or going down in the championship. The rumored £1500 per week over 2 years has to be less than the potential loss of not progressing in the same 2 years.
We are in desperate need of a proper midfielder Joe Chalmers just isn`t good enough for the Championship and unfortunately neither is Allan(good enough squad player). Personally I would go and try get Dillon Easton on a pre contract next month and explore the option of Byrne both would massively improve us going forward. I know Wighton was great for us last season when he was fit but at this level he offers very little at the very least McCann offers pace and and is a nuisance as for Jak the jury is still out. No chance of finding a goal scorer in January but something has to change up top because we offer nothing.
Easton and Byrne 😂😂😂 are we signing them with the promise of unicorns and leprechauns as gifts?
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:06
Just waiting for the usual pihs from Mcpake post match. That was simply not good enough, no excuses. Chalmers is honking, and Allan not much better. Don’t start on about Mehmet….I imagine we won’t sign anyone in January. Serious issues when we can’t compete with the likes of Rovers and Thistle.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:10
Time to get a goalie in. Absolutely pathetic stuff the amount mehmet and sharp have given away this season
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:10
"The likes of Rovers and Thistle"
WTF do you actually mean?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:11
Would be great if we could go and get someone like Easton but how realistic is it when clearly we’ll need yet another keeper and unless we want to just about tread water, a new defensive midfielder. We also need a new striker despite McCann and wighton being signed for next year. I’m not even sure what o’halleron is as to whether we need to replace him, he just hasn’t done anything of note and no signs he’ll show us in the next 18 months.
The players we need to improve us are not going to replace anyone who will be leaving.
I’m not convinced there will be enough wages leaving the club this summer to be able to make the changes required to move us forward and reshape the squad.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:13
Usual meltdown on here as newly promoted team don`t win against established sides.
New keeper has to be a priority....one we can build a team around.
He`s been found out. Doesn`t like playing out from the back which the manager wants.
Can only handle his paychecks.
There is growth in the rest of the squad but the keeper situation is shocking. He has to be dropped.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:15
Who are we going to bring in, in Jan with some experience and quality?
And more importantly will Dundee be prepared to let them leave 🫣
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:22
Wee Mike, out of interest who’s having a good season and is showing growth at this level so far this season?
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: FRED1981
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:25
What does Paul Allan bring to the tea , wee Moffat should be in there every game not in midfield he is a natural
winger .
F muller
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:26
8 points clear of bottom, 6 points from relegation play off,
Still in a good place for our first objective this season... 👍
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:27
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 16 Dec 17:22
Wee Mike, out of interest who’s having a good season and is showing growth at this level so far this season?
We are bloody 4th despite you claiming nobody is having a good season and not having 2 fully fit centre halves all year and playing a back 3 😂😂😂 Jesus wept! If we were playing at your expectations wed be 15 points clear at the top ffs! Honestly, some fans are totally out of touch with where we are as a club its staggering!
We do need a new number 1 though, thats a certainty!
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:28
Quote:
alwaysaPar, Sat 16 Dec 17:26
8 points clear of bottom, 6 points from relegation play off,
Still in a good place for our first objective this season... 👍
6 more wins and we are safe…40 points should be the target really though
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:28
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 16 Dec 17:22
Wee Mike, out of interest who’s having a good season and is showing growth at this level so far this season?
Comrie, Edwards, Otoo, Todd, Allan, McCann and fisher all have excellent potential at this level and beyond.
Wighton, chalmers, jakubiak and O`halloran can comfortably play championship football. (Doesn`t mean they will win every week)
Bene and breen I haven`t seen enough of at this level but I believe they can comfortably be in the top half of the league.
KRH I`m 50/50 about could be a star/ could be his level.
Deniz = dug meat.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:29
I think it`s fair to say the 3 teams above us are better at this moment in time. Once we have players back after Christmas we may be able to push for 3rd spot.
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Topic Originator: FRED1981
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:31
As for Jakubiak couldn’t hit a barn door from two feet.Play him wide he was outstanding last week coming in from the left.
F muller
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:31
Thought the game was pretty even to be honest, more than I thought it was going to be, Thistle looked a little more structured but they didn’t look miles ahead of us.
The goals we lost just totally killed any chance we had, the first goal from a corner was disappointing, keeper had to do better, was right at him. Then the second goal, awful, all he had to do was catch a relatively straightforward ball in, bread and butter for a keeper.
The comment above about Mehmet being found out, we always knew he had this in his locker and whilst I wasn’t disappointed with the contract renewal, it was the length of it I wasn’t happy with, don’t think it was merited after one season in League One.
I could go on about how sloppy we were at times on the ball, but truth is it didn’t really have a material impact on the loss, Thistle did very little, we just gifted them the goals.
Bit of luck that results elsewhere fell favourably so not too much damage done in the whole and another week where some of our returning players like Bene and Breen will be getting closer to first team football again.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:32
Nae surprise the keyboard warriors and bedwetters are mysteriously back for a loss.
Where do you all hover when we win a game? On an OF forum?
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:36
Quote:
FRED1981, Sat 16 Dec 17:31
As for Jakubiak couldn’t hit a barn door from two feet.Play him wide he was outstanding last week coming in from the left.
I said to my pal I feel like he is like McCann - hes not a natural striker - will do the donkey work, create chances etc, but put him through 1v1 and its ending up half way up the Norrie! I feel we need to go to a more 4-4-2/4-2-3-1 formation with Todd, McCann, Moffat, Jak or MoH behind a natural finisher (Wighton)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:40
Afore anyone comes at me with the usual “so everything is ok then” line.
It was frustrating to say the least.
Misplaced passes, sclaffed shots at goal, barn door comes to mind.
Then we start playing in the last ten mins with that screamer from Todd.
It’s no guid for ye that’s for sure.
I’m away furra heat then a lie doon.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:46
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weemike, Sat 16 Dec 17:28
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Berkey, Sat 16 Dec 17:22
Wee Mike, out of interest who’s having a good season and is showing growth at this level so far this season?
Comrie, Edwards, Otoo, Todd, Allan, McCann and fisher all have excellent potential at this level and beyond.
Wighton, chalmers, jakubiak and O`halloran can comfortably play championship football. (Doesn`t mean they will win every week)
Bene and breen I haven`t seen enough of at this level but I believe they can comfortably be in the top half of the league.
KRH I`m 50/50 about could be a star/ could be his level.
Deniz = dug meat.
You arent sure about bene at this level, jesus wept 🤣🤣
COYP
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:51
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shellypar, Sat 16 Dec 17:46
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weemike, Sat 16 Dec 17:28
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Berkey, Sat 16 Dec 17:22
Wee Mike, out of interest who’s having a good season and is showing growth at this level so far this season?
Comrie, Edwards, Otoo, Todd, Allan, McCann and fisher all have excellent potential at this level and beyond.
Wighton, chalmers, jakubiak and O`halloran can comfortably play championship football. (Doesn`t mean they will win every week)
Bene and breen I haven`t seen enough of at this level but I believe they can comfortably be in the top half of the league.
KRH I`m 50/50 about could be a star/ could be his level.
Deniz = dug meat.
You arent sure about bene at this level, jesus wept 🤣🤣
I haven`t seen enough of him at this level*** but I believe he is a top half player, can`t you read?
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:53
Fans were not booing misplaced passes today after 5 minutes. What a lot of rubbish. Do people seriously expect the forum to be full of praise first half? Get real. The first half performance was quite rightly slaughtered as we offered nothing. The second half clearly shows we have ability but why on earth does it take us going two down to have a go?
Positive today was that we were much much better in the second half but extremely wasteful yet again. At this rate Jakubiak will never score with us! He’s fluffed some decent chances since joining. His work rate cannot be questioned and what’s frustrating is he can create a lot of chances out of nothing but the end product lets him down majorly. Additions in January to would be welcomed in midfield and up front but even without I’d like to think we have enough about us to be mid table (at least). We just need to be more consistent and stop give teams a goal/two goal advantage before we start coming back into the game!
The next two games are ones I fully expect us to win. Hopefully the squad turn up.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 17:59
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RossF, Sat 16 Dec 17:53
Fans were not booing misplaced passes today after 5 minutes. What a lot of rubbish. Do people seriously expect the forum to be full of praise first half? Get real. The first half performance was quite rightly slaughtered as we offered nothing. The second half clearly shows we have ability but why on earth does it take us going two down to have a go?
Positive today was that we were much much better in the second half but extremely wasteful yet again. At this rate Jakubiak will never score with us! He’s fluffed some decent chances since joining. His work rate cannot be questioned and what’s frustrating is he can create a lot of chances out of nothing but the end product lets him down majorly. Additions in January to would be welcomed in midfield and up front but even without I’d like to think we have enough about us to be mid table (at least). We just need to be more consistent and stop give teams a goal/two goal advantage before we start coming back into the game!
The next two games are ones I fully expect us to win. Hopefully the squad turn up.
No one said that we were booing after 5 minutes today but the fact is it has happened before, dont be a little baby cos you think pars fans are perfect goody goodys
COYP
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 16 Dec 18:04
"Oh sorry i forgot footballers can make no mistakes, wow, my apologies, i forgot they are meant to be perfect, and u honestly think that booing after 5 mins is really really warranted and needed, get a grip kid"
So much wrong with one post, it`s hard to think where to start....
I never said players can`t make mistakes. I don`t mind players making mistakes if they are doing something progressive, if they are trying something difficult, if they learn from their mistakes, if they make mistakes in the right places... simple 5 yard passes under no pressure in your own defensive third? Constantly looking to play balls into areas that we don`t have any options? Failing to deal with a simple set piece? Those are neither difficult nor progressive nor in the right areas. Hamilton played a pass out wide which went out of play and I didn`t have an issue with that, he was trying to get the ball into a good area but his radar was off. Chalmers, hit for the first time this season, tried a cute wee pass in our own 18 yard box and gave the ball away in a dangerous area. You`re damn right I wasn`t happy with that.
Booing after 5 minutes might be warranted, it might not. If we went 2-0 down to Elgin at home after 5 minutes, I`m sure there would be plenty of booing. I don`t see how the time of the game is relevant at all. FWIW, I don`t think there was much booing early doors today - we started OK and were arguably the better team before they scored. And even if there was any booing, so what? If you want to be a professional and play at a high level you hve to deal with pressure. Pressure from your own self belief, from the coaches, from the owners, from the media and yes, from fans. If a handful of people booing - and let`s be honest, until the second goal it wasn`t like there were a huge chorus of boos - is enough to put you off, that shows a fragile mentality I`m afraid.
A kid? I wish!
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 16 Dec 18:06
We are a division up from last year so we need to try and be realistic about how we fare against teams that have been here for a season or two ! they are a step in front of us and know once they have a lead how to hang on to it , and saying that we had some good chances in that second half to at least get an equaliser
But you cannot legislate for your keepers giving teams points every other week
If we had scored first I am pretty sure we would have gone on and won the game
And we are not the only Team in the League that has had their share of injuries , Morton is probably the only one though that has had long term injuries similar to our team, We keep saying we will be ok once we get Bene and Breen back etc but no matter how good they are like the boys of late playing in their positions if you have a keeper that is a liability well that should say it all ! plus we do not have composed players up front who will win us games when we need a goal ! As for Jakubiak mmm least said the better, O`Halloran is another , big Lewis does his best but unfortunately thats it ! , we can go on and on but I still think this bunch of players with maybe a couple of additions will get us into the top 4
Or is that just wishful thinking because I am Pars through and through ?
We can only live in hope , onwards to Arbroath next saturday who had a good win away to ICT today , so another hard game
Time to let the dust settle , sit back and have a couple of drams tonight , game is over we cannot change anything
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Sat 16 Dec 18:10
Didn’t think we were that bad. Didn’t think they were that good. And I can’t remember Mehmet having much to do other than gift the opposition a commanding lead.
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Topic Originator: jojo
Date: Sat 16 Dec 18:13
Did better second half which is something to cling to but why do we start games so poorly ? This was also against a hardened championship side who were 20 minutes from going to SPL but gifting goals is unacceptable.
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 16 Dec 18:18
I don`t know what Paul Allan brings, many of our attacks broke down when got the ball. So many opportunities that we failed to take, we hit the bar and the post again but these were chances that should have been put away. We deserved a draw today but deserving a delivering are 2 different things.
I dunno if some of our players were suffering from the bug that was going around. Lewis looked absolutely knackered early in the 2nd half.
But we are still in the top four. Clear 4 points.
We desperate need our full squad available and a keeper with confidence.
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Sat 16 Dec 18:18
We are absolutely rotten in the Middle of the park and up front.
Keeper sold the game today, second goal in particular was a shocker of a mistake.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sat 16 Dec 18:18
I thought Partick were no great shakes today. They did not threaten outwith their goals which imo were gifted to them. Chalmers and Allan are not the answer in midfield. My god what we would we do with a natural goal scorer. Oh and I though apart from one misplaced pass I thought Otoo was excellent
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 16 Dec 18:20
The decision to give Mehmet a 3 year and ohalloran and Chalmers 2 year deals is baffling.
We were shocking today too many passes that were either too far in front of behind the man. We don`t have a striker who can finish a plate eh chips nevermind chances.
I`d also say we were fortunate Patrick were happy to defend the whole of the second half as if they pushed forward who knows what could have been.
Only plus ish side of it was another positive performance from O`Too who was by far our best player.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 16 Dec 18:25
It would seem to be that we are just shy of the current top 3. That`s not a criticism.
In what is an injury hit return to the Championship if we make it to the play-offs that would be a decent effort. We have lost our better players and been unable to establish a 1st XI that can gel.
Recruitment though would be a more worthy debate than the teams position
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 16 Dec 18:38
“ Nah i get that, but it clearly makes them all nervy when they get booed after 5 MINS”
Your post earlier says different Shelly. Never said the fans were ‘goody goody’ but no where near as bad as some make out. They are however entitled to say that our first half performance today is just as bad as your attempts at humour!
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 16 Dec 18:50
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995 like
Date: Sat 16 Dec 18:20
The decision to give Mehmet a 3 year and ohalloran and Chalmers 2 year deals is baffling.
We were shocking today too many passes that were either too far in front of behind the man. We don`t have a striker who can finish a plate eh chips nevermind chances.
I`d also say we were fortunate Patrick were happy to defend the whole of the second half as if they pushed forward who knows what could have been.
Only plus ish side of it was another positive performance from O`Too who was by far our best player.
Otoo was indeed very good today. So was Hammy, he never put a foot wrong all game. Todd is slowly but surely getting better each game. When Bene and Breen are able to play then we will be able to play Hammy and Otoo in midfield which will give us more options as Chalmers and Allan together for me is not ideal.
RossF expects us to win our next two games…… I hope we do but I don’t expect to win any game this season. We are certainly capable but too inconsistent, not surprising really with a relatively young team..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sat 16 Dec 18:57
I don`t think we were that bad today, without ever looking convincing.
We struggled in the first 25 mins as we were pressed in our own half. If they didn`t have a lead at that point it probably would have continued, but they eased off on that a bit as we came into it more. We just don`t deal with being pressed in our own half, and didn`t deal with their quick and direct running either. It`s difficult against a player like Brian Graham, as his presence inevitably leads to space for others.
I think we did try to mix up the short stuff with longer passes, as worked well last week, but we just didn`t get time to play them which often meant we played silly passes at the back that weren`t on. When a team presses us early in the game like that, I really do feel we should just give up on trying to play short, focus on doing the basics and look to get runners into the space the press leaves behind. You can always change it later in the game when the press inevitably dies in the second half.
But, we did still have chances. Looked an absolute sitter for Jakubiak just after the first goal and we had a couple of first half shots blocked too. At the back, we often seemed disorganised but I can`t think of any chances they had other than the two goals.
We played OK in the second half when trying to come back but it was similar to a few games this year - no doubt about the effort but it just isn`t quite there when we need a goal. On another day you`d get a break of the ball with all that pressure but it just didn`t really fall for us. My biggest frustration in those situations is that our ball in the box is generally poor and it means we often waste good posiitons. The goal we did score was probably just slightly too late, as we seemed to have ran ourselves out and had little left for the last few minutes.
It`s not disastrous, just a bit frustrating that two bad goals gave us too much to do.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 16 Dec 19:00
We lose Sharp in January so presumably will free up wages for someone?
Easton will get signed up by a team like Dundee or St Johnstone. I said at the time we should have got him but I believe we tried and failed.
What about Rumarn Burrell?
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sat 16 Dec 19:10
Biggest problem is we still have most of our 1st division winning squad, we weren’t prolific scorers despite winning the league We haven’t really addressed the problems we had and have given long contracts to players who are not up to championship level . Hopefully some some serious signings in January will help our cause
G.B
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 16 Dec 19:25
We have had a make shift 11 for majority of games .We are playing a fee out of position ,Probably the unluckiest team in the league related to injuries .
I think the players playing out of position have done well giving the circumstances .
We are still 4th in the league ,Raith are top on merit ,having a great season so far ,Dundee United and Partick are nothing special and beatable .
Let`s see how we progress in 2024 with hopefully our first choice team on the park .
All things taken into consideration I`m happy sitting in 4th with a game in hand
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sat 16 Dec 19:28
Ironically i think Mehmet had a similar howler at home to Thistle couple of years ago, might have even been his debut?
Undone by two mistakes; Thistle didn`t cause us too many problems and Hamilton did well with Graham once he realised he could step off and try and nick it off him instead of trying to win the initial header every time. Otoo was solid and good to see Todd amongst the goals again.
Been said before but Allan/Chalmers holding midfield doesn`t work against the better teams but if Breen and/or Bene are back soon then Hamilton will likely move into midfield and also Summers to come back in who is a lot more mobile in there.
Striking options though....Could surely do worse than trying O`Halloran as a striker which is or was his position when he hit that purple patch of his career and got his move to Rangers?
Cannot be worse than McCann or Jakubliak, granted they both worked their socks off but little to no end product and McCann seems to have one game where he imposes himself on defences and the odd moment of brilliance followed by two or three games where he is anonymous.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 16 Dec 19:29
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desparado, Sat 16 Dec 18:50
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995 like
Date: Sat 16 Dec 18:20
The decision to give Mehmet a 3 year and ohalloran and Chalmers 2 year deals is baffling.
We were shocking today too many passes that were either too far in front of behind the man. We don`t have a striker who can finish a plate eh chips nevermind chances.
I`d also say we were fortunate Patrick were happy to defend the whole of the second half as if they pushed forward who knows what could have been.
Only plus ish side of it was another positive performance from O`Too who was by far our best player.
Otoo was indeed very good today. So was Hammy, he never put a foot wrong all game. Todd is slowly but surely getting better each game. When Bene and Breen are able to play then we will be able to play Hammy and Otoo in midfield which will give us more options as Chalmers and Allan together for me is not ideal.
RossF expects us to win our next two games…… I hope we do but I don’t expect to win any game this season. We are certainly capable but too inconsistent, not surprising really with a relatively young team..
I`d love to see what game he expects wins from ..... All our next 3 games are against teams which won today
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 16 Dec 19:29
I agree gordi.
If there was budget in the summer for some serious signings I doubt we would have ended up with Jak for example. If we don’t look in immediate danger of bottom 2 I can’t see us bringing much in unless the injuries are piling up again, although I suspect we’ll be told the usual that’s it’s about getting the right quality in……
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 16 Dec 19:32
Why would Dylan Easton, who has a chance of progressing to the Premiership with Raith, consider signing for the Pars?!!! Only last week we were being told on here that Raith paid better wages than us.
It`s frustrating to gift two goals to a side who looked no better than us for most of the game but I did enjoy Matty Todd`s goal. Every time we have a set-back the usual suspects are on here telling us we have too many players who aren`t Championship class. It makes you wonder how we`ve managed to get to fourth place despite having so many long-term injuries.
As for booing, I`ve never seen the point of it unless it`s obvious the players aren`t trying. Is it likely the players need the fans to boo them to tell them they`re not playing well?
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 16 Dec 19:33
What a miserable read. Some folk only post when we lose.
Just wondering what what all these glory hunters thought we might achieve in our first season back. I bet none of them expected top four, where we sit reasonably comfortably despite a horrendous injury filled start to the season. Yet here they are complaining because we cant beat the top 3 sides.
Teams who have had years to establish themselves at this level.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 16 Dec 19:34
Very difficult to win a game when you gift your opponents two goals of a start. A much better second half. With a bit of luck and a predatory striker, we might have nicked a draw.
If we can get our injured players back, I feel sure we can clinch a play off spot.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Bazzler1981
Date: Sat 16 Dec 19:52
If we had a decent keeper we’d be pushing rovers and united
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 16 Dec 19:58
Only if your decent keeper was also a 15 goal a season striker!
On a serious note, when we get the defenders back we can push Hamilton and otoo further forward in midfield, that will solve a weak point in these types of games. Then it’s just about how to get the right service into some actual strikers.
Post Edited (Sat 16 Dec 20:02)
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 20:07
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PARrot, Sat 16 Dec 19:33
What a miserable read. Some folk only post when we lose.
Just wondering what what all these glory hunters thought we might achieve in our first season back. I bet none of them expected top four, where we sit reasonably comfortably despite a horrendous injury filled start to the season. Yet here they are complaining because we cant beat the top 3 sides.
Teams who have had years to establish themselves at this level.
Yep. Madness.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 20:11
We moved up a division .. Its a big ask to survive never mind get to the playoffs ..
Our remit was to establish ourselves in the Championship .. We are more than capable of doing that .. we had a hiccup today .. Factor in the sickness throughout the squad .. We need to stop picking out players for mistakes .. we need to stop arguing with other posters who`s opinions/observations are different from ours
And first and foremost we need to support our team through good and bad as many on here have done .. COYP
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 20:16
We will be fine once everyone is back from injury. I think we will have a better 2nd half of the season. We have had to muddle through a bit with injuries but have shown resilience to make 4th spot our own. That`s credit to the players.they are not robots and will make mistakes. Booing the team is counter productive in my view.
Post Edited (Sat 16 Dec 20:44)
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Topic Originator: Kessel
Date: Sat 16 Dec 20:28
We`re 15 games in as a newly promoted side and we`re currently in the promotion play-off space and 8pts off bottom. I`ll take that at this moment.
Despite that, am I happy at a lot of our performances? Nope. I actually thought we done ok today, in the 2nd half anyway. We do have some key players out which should be factored in. The one thing for me though is that for most of the time we are such a boring team to watch at times.
Personally, I want/expect better, but it`s nowhere near the doomsday scenario that some are painting on here.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 16 Dec 21:15
Some very sensible, rational posts just above this one. Well said, gents.
We`re not going to win every game, far less when we give our opponents a 2 goal start. On another day, the players whose mistakes cost us today, will get us 3 pts,
Football is like that.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 16 Dec 21:25
"Yet here they are complaining because we cant beat the top 3 sides."
Don`t think many are tbh - most are accepting we`re a bit behind the top 3 at the moment. Whether we should be is another question, but I think the annoyance is more that we`ve been beaten by Partick Thistle twice so far and have gifted them critical goals at critical times in both.
"If we had a decent keeper we’d be pushing rovers and united"
Not for me, Clive, although we`d maybe be more secure in 4th or even 3rd.
"We moved up a division .. Its a big ask to survive never mind get to the playoffs."
History would suggest otherwise tbf. Cove last season were the only team I can think of who struggled and that was partly after sacking McIntyre to bring in Hartley.
"Despite that, am I happy at a lot of our performances? Nope. I actually thought we done ok today, in the 2nd half anyway. We do have some key players out which should be factored in."
Yes, that`s the thing - it`s not so much results, it`s performances. Even in games we`ve won it`s been pretty turgid stuff at times. Hopefully with Todd coming back we`ll see more energy and purpose and it was good to see him get another goal.
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Topic Originator: chris1883
Date: Sat 16 Dec 21:31
So... if, at the start of this season, you all were asked "where would you want to be 15 games in?" Who would have said `mid table` or `top 4`?
You are doing well considering the fact you were promoted last season. You are comfortably above fifth, and [from what I have heard] played pretty well well today and unfortunate not to get at least a draw.
This is a building season. Stay up, and build your squad to do better next season.
And for those suggesting that you have any chance of signing Dylan Easton.... you are seriously having a laugh! Honestly, Rovers will be lucky to hold onto him. I have no doubt there are Premiership teams sniffing around him already
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sat 16 Dec 22:38
Chris, it may not be your intention, but it`s hard not to read that post as being quite patronising. Do you really think it`s appropriate to tell people, who actually went to see their team today, how well they played when you support a different team and didn`t see the game?
Given the injuries we`ve had this year, I`ll be content enough if we finish in the 5th-8th region of the table and manage to avoid getting into too much danger near the bottom, but there`s absolutely no reason at all why we should not aspire to finish in the promotion play-offs and an outside chance of going up. That goes for most other teams in the league as well. After a game like today`s, I`m pretty sure the range of comments above would be similar among the fanbase of the team that lost, regardless of what team that is.
Opposing fans should always be welcome if they have something sensible to say, but come on, have some awareness when you do that.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 16 Dec 22:58
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wee eck, Sat 16 Dec 19:32
Why would Dylan Easton, who has a chance of progressing to the Premiership with Raith, consider signing for the Pars?!!! Only last week we were being told on here that Raith paid better wages than us.
Shorter commute?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 16 Dec 23:12
You`re always going to struggle to win games if you defend as we did for the first goal then your keeper drops the ball from a simple cross for the 2nd. The second half performance was encouraging but it was all a bit blood and thunder, throughout that half another Thistle goal would not have surprised me.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 16 Dec 23:29
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Socks, Sat 16 Dec 22:38
Chris, it may not be your intention, but it`s hard not to read that post as being quite patronising. Do you really think it`s appropriate to tell people, who actually went to see their team today, how well they played when you support a different team and didn`t see the game?
Given the injuries we`ve had this year, I`ll be content enough if we finish in the 5th-8th region of the table and manage to avoid getting into too much danger near the bottom, but there`s absolutely no reason at all why we should not aspire to finish in the promotion play-offs and an outside chance of going up. That goes for most other teams in the league as well. After a game like today`s, I`m pretty sure the range of comments above would be similar among the fanbase of the team that lost, regardless of what team that is.
Opposing fans should always be welcome if they have something sensible to say, but come on, have some awareness when you do that.
Surprised at your take on this. I think he is pretty much spot on. He didn't say we played well. He just said he heard we played well.
I'm surprised that irked you.
Post Edited (Sat 16 Dec 23:30)
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz
Date: Sat 16 Dec 23:41
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PARrot, Sat 16 Dec 23:29
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Socks, Sat 16 Dec 22:38
Chris, it may not be your intention, but it`s hard not to read that post as being quite patronising. Do you really think it`s appropriate to tell people, who actually went to see their team today, how well they played when you support a different team and didn`t see the game?
Given the injuries we`ve had this year, I`ll be content enough if we finish in the 5th-8th region of the table and manage to avoid getting into too much danger near the bottom, but there`s absolutely no reason at all why we should not aspire to finish in the promotion play-offs and an outside chance of going up. That goes for most other teams in the league as well. After a game like today`s, I`m pretty sure the range of comments above would be similar among the fanbase of the team that lost, regardless of what team that is.
Opposing fans should always be welcome if they have something sensible to say, but come on, have some awareness when you do that.
Surprised at your take on this. I think he is pretty much spot on. He didn`t say we played well. He just said he heard we played well.
I`m surprised that irked you.
Irked me as well, his team top of the league and deservedly so, what a sad life if all you can do is visit an opponents forum to post patronising crap.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 16 Dec 23:46
I too thought the Rovers fan was pretty much spot-on in his comments. I couldn`t detect anything particularly patronising about it, just good old-fashioned banter from a fan of one of our local rivals, universally known to us as "The Wee Team".
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 17 Dec 00:24
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Parsfangaz, Sat 16 Dec 23:41
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PARrot, Sat 16 Dec 23:29
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Socks, Sat 16 Dec 22:38
Chris, it may not be your intention, but it`s hard not to read that post as being quite patronising. Do you really think it`s appropriate to tell people, who actually went to see their team today, how well they played when you support a different team and didn`t see the game?
Given the injuries we`ve had this year, I`ll be content enough if we finish in the 5th-8th region of the table and manage to avoid getting into too much danger near the bottom, but there`s absolutely no reason at all why we should not aspire to finish in the promotion play-offs and an outside chance of going up. That goes for most other teams in the league as well. After a game like today`s, I`m pretty sure the range of comments above would be similar among the fanbase of the team that lost, regardless of what team that is.
Opposing fans should always be welcome if they have something sensible to say, but come on, have some awareness when you do that.
Surprised at your take on this. I think he is pretty much spot on. He didn`t say we played well. He just said he heard we played well.
I`m surprised that irked you.
Irked me as well, his team top of the league and deservedly so, what a sad life if all you can do is visit an opponents forum to post patronising crap.
Thats just nonsense. Whats wrong with you. The guy is just visiting and having a pleasant blether.
I`ve often in the past, but not for a few years now, posted on the Rovers` site. I got a similar response. Some pleasant response and some nasties insisting I was on the wind up.
Really what is wrong with visiting other sites and just being friendly?
Post Edited (Sun 17 Dec 00:25)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 17 Dec 00:33
Do they have a fans` forum?
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 17 Dec 00:50
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wee eck, Sun 17 Dec 00:33
Do they have a fans` forum?
Aye and both of them post on it regularly ;)
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Topic Originator: Gem 1977
Date: Sun 17 Dec 02:15
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chris1883, Sat 16 Dec 21:31
So... if, at the start of this season, you all were asked "where would you want to be 15 games in?" Who would have said `mid table` or `top 4`?
You are doing well considering the fact you were promoted last season. You are comfortably above fifth, and [from what I have heard] played pretty well well today and unfortunate not to get at least a draw.
This is a building season. Stay up, and build your squad to do better next season.
And for those suggesting that you have any chance of signing Dylan Easton.... you are seriously having a laugh! Honestly, Rovers will be lucky to hold onto him. I have no doubt there are Premiership teams sniffing around him already
[ Rude and abusive !! . . . . . ]
Here's to the first of the day, fellas! To old D.H. Lawrence.
Neh! Neh! Neh! Fuh! Fuh! Fuh! Indians
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Topic Originator: Pars11
Date: Sun 17 Dec 02:35
Why do we allow The Wee Team guy to post on here? He is only here to try and annoy Pars fans. Admin exercise your power. 😂
Bluebell Polka
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Topic Originator: chris1883
Date: Sun 17 Dec 08:04
I wasn`t trying to be patronising at all. Simply trying to say that you [in terms of the league] are doing pretty well considering you have just come up a division. I have also spoken to multiple friends who all share the belief that Partick were lucky to win the game and felt Dunfermline played better than the result suggests.
I come here, because as I stated before, I do genuinely care about all the teams in fife and along with talking to friends who were at the game and reading reports it is nice to see what a wider range of people think about how your team are playing.
I genuinely believe that you will comfortably stay up, and your team will improve as confidence grows. A wee run of good games and you`ll be fine.
If my very presence on this forum riles up so many people as it seems to do so, I shall not return. Or maybe it is the fact that I actually seem to be one of the few people who post on here that sees positivity in your league position, points tally and your team?
Have a good Christmas all.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sun 17 Dec 08:37
Personally I don`t see anything wrong with what he has posted on here. Talks a lot more sense than some of our own roasters. Some folk just can`t see past the fact that he supports the Rovers.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Sun 17 Dec 08:49
All polite views should be welcome here.
Post Edited (Sun 17 Dec 08:49)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 17 Dec 09:32
Happy for Chris to keep posting
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Sun 17 Dec 09:43
Chris, you carry on posting to your hearts content. Your team is having a great season, and whether you’re being a bit naughty at the wind up or whatever you’re doing, I’d fully expect this to happen the other way round too. Folk get far too uptight over a game of bloody football.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Sun 17 Dec 09:48
As for the game and this season so far, I’m happy enough with 4th, but our performances in the main require big improvement overall. We cannot be satisfied with our goalkeeper or our striking options if we want to have a decent enough dig at the playoffs.
Is McPake culpable as he’s the one who’s signed off contracts for Mehmet, Chalmers and Wighton; all who had poor seasons in 2021/22 and have been found wanting in a few of games this season so far? Is he also culpable in not identifying the right striking talent which we knew was an issue From last year? Or have our beloved owners and CEO been pulling the rug from under him with the striking targets we’ve gone for and not achieved?
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sun 17 Dec 09:49
Keep posting Chris .. I can see no malice in your posts whatsoever
Great result for your team Yesterday
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Sun 17 Dec 09:52
Aside from the daft mistakes, the main irritation for me was the reluctance of the referee to book the Thistle keeper for time-wasting.
I counted 5 warnings, and for the last 2, he pointed to his watch to indicate he was adding time on. He could still have booked him!
Sharp was booked in a previous game (United at home, I think) for time-wasting with only 1 warning!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 17 Dec 10:22
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StevenPar77, Sun 17 Dec 09:52
Aside from the daft mistakes, the main irritation for me was the reluctance of the referee to book the Thistle keeper for time-wasting.
I counted 5 warnings, and for the last 2, he pointed to his watch to indicate he was adding time on. He could still have booked him!
Sharp was booked in a previous game (United at home, I think) for time-wasting with only 1 warning!
Just about 5 mins extra time so if you add 30 secs for subs, keeper played a blinder
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sun 17 Dec 10:52
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chris1883, Sun 17 Dec 08:04
I wasn`t trying to be patronising at all. Simply trying to say that you [in terms of the league] are doing pretty well considering you have just come up a division. I have also spoken to multiple friends who all share the belief that Partick were lucky to win the game and felt Dunfermline played better than the result suggests.
I come here, because as I stated before, I do genuinely care about all the teams in fife and along with talking to friends who were at the game and reading reports it is nice to see what a wider range of people think about how your team are playing.
I genuinely believe that you will comfortably stay up, and your team will improve as confidence grows. A wee run of good games and you`ll be fine.
If my very presence on this forum riles up so many people as it seems to do so, I shall not return. Or maybe it is the fact that I actually seem to be one of the few people who post on here that sees positivity in your league position, points tally and your team?
Have a good Christmas all.
I genuinely think that it would be good for all Fife teams to be doing well. It`s good for Fife. I would be interested to know if you think that the Rovers are gambling on promotion this year if they are paying above the "going rate`" if indeed that is the case? Are the Rovers in a sound financial position and if they do achieve promotion do you think they will need to bring in players to compete at the higher level?
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 17 Dec 11:14
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theparsman1885, Sun 17 Dec 09:48
As for the game and this season so far, I’m happy enough with 4th, but our performances in the main require big improvement overall. We cannot be satisfied with our goalkeeper or our striking options if we want to have a decent enough dig at the playoffs.
Is McPake culpable as he’s the one who’s signed off contracts for Mehmet, Chalmers and Wighton; all who had poor seasons in 2021/22 and have been found wanting in a few of games this season so far? Is he also culpable in not identifying the right striking talent which we knew was an issue From last year? Or have our beloved owners and CEO been pulling the rug from under him with the striking targets we’ve gone for and not achieved?
We don`t know if McPake "signed off" for these players or he was told the club couldn`t bring in better replacements. I do know that McPake and Mackay like players of good character who will train well and not disrupt the harmony in the squad, which is manifestly evident.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Sun 17 Dec 11:17
Having watched the highlights two cheap cheap goals. Apart from that we looked to play ok without seriously working the goalkeeper which ,if a one off, wouldn`t be overly concerning but unfortunately it is a regular occurence. It looked like McCann was playing through the middle which is not his best position.
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz
Date: Sun 17 Dec 11:25
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chris1883, Sun 17 Dec 08:04
I wasn`t trying to be patronising at all. Simply trying to say that you [in terms of the league] are doing pretty well considering you have just come up a division. I have also spoken to multiple friends who all share the belief that Partick were lucky to win the game and felt Dunfermline played better than the result suggests.
I come here, because as I stated before, I do genuinely care about all the teams in fife and along with talking to friends who were at the game and reading reports it is nice to see what a wider range of people think about how your team are playing.
I genuinely believe that you will comfortably stay up, and your team will improve as confidence grows. A wee run of good games and you`ll be fine.
If my very presence on this forum riles up so many people as it seems to do so, I shall not return. Or maybe it is the fact that I actually seem to be one of the few people who post on here that sees positivity in your league position, points tally and your team?
Have a good Christmas all.
if your team were below us in the league would you be on here telling us how well we’re doing ?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 17 Dec 11:36
`Is McPake culpable as he’s the one who’s signed off contracts for Mehmet, Chalmers and Wighton; all who had poor seasons in 2021/22 and have been found wanting in a few of games this season so far`
Here we go again! Can you really expect a manager to judge players based on a season when he wasn`t at the club rather than on a season when he has seen them in training and in matches and knows how they interact with others in the squad? These are the judgements managers are paid to make and they would be crazy to base them on anything other than their own experience. By the same token he decided MacDonald, O`Hara and Todorov didn`t merit contracts.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 17 Dec 11:39
Whether they`re championship standard or not, we were without Wighton, Summers, Breen, Benedictus and KRH. They`re arguably 5 of our best players. Our bench has virtually nothing on it that can change a game. That has to change, either with players returning and staying fit and available or by signings in January. Every week we`re making changes and playing players out of position to get by.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 17 Dec 12:31
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Parsfangaz, Sun 17 Dec 11:25
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chris1883, Sun 17 Dec 08:04
I wasn`t trying to be patronising at all. Simply trying to say that you [in terms of the league] are doing pretty well considering you have just come up a division. I have also spoken to multiple friends who all share the belief that Partick were lucky to win the game and felt Dunfermline played better than the result suggests.
I come here, because as I stated before, I do genuinely care about all the teams in fife and along with talking to friends who were at the game and reading reports it is nice to see what a wider range of people think about how your team are playing.
I genuinely believe that you will comfortably stay up, and your team will improve as confidence grows. A wee run of good games and you`ll be fine.
If my very presence on this forum riles up so many people as it seems to do so, I shall not return. Or maybe it is the fact that I actually seem to be one of the few people who post on here that sees positivity in your league position, points tally and your team?
Have a good Christmas all.
if your team were below us in the league would you be on here telling us how well we’re doing ?
Gaz, grow up for goodness sake. Its getting embarrassing.
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Sun 17 Dec 13:42
I don’t think much changed with that result, disappointing though it was. It looks likely we are playing for 3rd or 4th and there is not much difference between them. To be honest, anything above 8th this season would be a success.
Although I haven’t seen anything specific about it, I imagine that the virus had some effect, with Wighton and Summers absent; it would be normal for one or two others to be less than fully fit, which won’t help when you’ve already got players playing out of position. It was good to have a full bench, even if most of them were realistically never going to get a game.
It was the usual slow start, with a much faster tempo after the break. That seems to happen so often it must surely be by design. Unfortunately if this is a deliberate strategy to keep it tight before pressing for the win, it was undone by two defensive errors.
And we had the usual difficulty with creating chances despite having the ball in good positions. Poor delivery, poor positioning and poor anticipation seem to be the perennial issue.
Matty Todd however is one who always seems to be looking for a goal, and one who believes he will get the chances if he can get into the right areas at the right time (perhaps Nicky Phinn was the last player to do that sort of thing consistently?). Maybe the others could learn a few things from him. It was frustrating to see the ball virtually roll along the goal line late on with no-one there to put it away.
I’m not convinced Little is the answer between the sticks – I’ve seen him a few times and he’s shipped quite a few goals – none you would have expected him to save really, but good keepers have a habit of doing the impossible.
Well done to Hamilton for not getting booked and Neilson (was it?) for replacing that enormous divot.
As for Chris1883 – I’ve no issue with his comments – he should be welcome to post here.
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sun 17 Dec 14:54
Of course Chris should be welcome to contribute here, given that he manages to do so politely. However, I don`t see why I shouldn`t be allowed to respond, equally politely, when a comment seems patronising, even if, as I mentioned right at the start, it may well not have been the intention. That`s what I mean when I mentioned awareness - if you just want to talk about football without anyone thinking you`re being patronising, it probably isn`t the best idea to post that sort of comment on a Saturday evening, in a thread specifically about a game you haven`t even seen and in which the team you`re talking about have lost, on a day when your own team has just had a hugely impressive result elsewhere to go clear at the top of the league.
The whole basis of it comes across to me as "Why are some people expressing even moderate annoyance after losing a game? You are doing as well as you could possibly expect, and I feel the right to tell you this even though you were at the game and I wasn`t".
It`s a thread about a specific game and I don`t even think the moans and criticism in this one are particularly strong. It`s more just annoyance than anything else, which is quite understandable given how the game went. I also find it quite nippy when Pars fans talk about details of games they obviously haven`t seen or complain, for example, about a thread being a miserable read when they have nothing to add to it. My view is that if you haven`t actually watched the game, then all you can comment on is the score and the implications of the result. Then any specific incidents shown in the highlights when they appear. It`s also annoying when someone not at the game says the following day `based on the highlights, that game wasn`t like people who saw the whole game said it was`. If I don`t make it to a game, I never comment on it afterwards as I just don`t think I`m entitled to an opinion and would rather read and listen to comments from those who did see it.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sun 17 Dec 16:50
It’s honestly not that bad. I’m not an overly positive poster and I do enjoy a moan about the state of the squad etc but I honestly think we have been really unlucky with injuries this year and we only need to add a goalie and a striker to this squad to look at competing for the title next season. Both of which a lot of us identified as being areas for concern pre season.
No idea why Mehmet was given a three year deal. That was absolute 3am madness after his last championship season.
Overall it’s fine, we will consolidate our position in this division and look to build on it for next season. We may well make the playoffs too although I don’t think it would be in our long term interest to go up this season as we would need to bring in too many players to try and stay up.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sun 17 Dec 21:28
I always think that a goalkeeper needs to command the box. I don`t think he is necessarily a bad keeper but I think he needs to come off his line more and be quicker with his distribution sometimes.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 17 Dec 22:08
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Socks, Sun 17 Dec 14:54
Of course Chris should be welcome to contribute here, given that he manages to do so politely. However, I don`t see why I shouldn`t be allowed to respond, equally politely, when a comment seems patronising, even if, as I mentioned right at the start, it may well not have been the intention. That`s what I mean when I mentioned awareness - if you just want to talk about football without anyone thinking you`re being patronising, it probably isn`t the best idea to post that sort of comment on a Saturday evening, in a thread specifically about a game you haven`t even seen and in which the team you`re talking about have lost, on a day when your own team has just had a hugely impressive result elsewhere to go clear at the top of the league.
The whole basis of it comes across to me as "Why are some people expressing even moderate annoyance after losing a game? You are doing as well as you could possibly expect, and I feel the right to tell you this even though you were at the game and I wasn`t".
It`s a thread about a specific game and I don`t even think the moans and criticism in this one are particularly strong. It`s more just annoyance than anything else, which is quite understandable given how the game went. I also find it quite nippy when Pars fans talk about details of games they obviously haven`t seen or complain, for example, about a thread being a miserable read when they have nothing to add to it. My view is that if you haven`t actually watched the game, then all you can comment on is the score and the implications of the result. Then any specific incidents shown in the highlights when they appear. It`s also annoying when someone not at the game says the following day `based on the highlights, that game wasn`t like people who saw the whole game said it was`. If I don`t make it to a game, I never comment on it afterwards as I just don`t think I`m entitled to an opinion and would rather read and listen to comments from those who did see it.
I didn`t say you aren`t allowed to comment. I just said I was surprised at what you said.
Point taken about my comment whilst not being there, although I don’t think you need to be there to say the thread is a miserable read.
Maybe it is justifiably so.
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