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 Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 14:57

Your Dunfermline team for today’s pre-season friendly v St Mirren

1 Deniz Mehmet
15 Sam Fisher
4 Kyle Benedictus (c)
12 Rhys Breen
7 Kane Ritchie-Hosler
19 David Wotherspoon
5 Chris Hamilton
6 Ewan Otoo
3 Kieran Ngwenya
9 Craig Wighton
11 Lewis McCann

3.00pm. kick off at KDM
Subs v St Mirren:-
13 Trialist (GK)
2 Aaron Comrie
8 Joe Chalmers
14 Michael O’Halloran
16 Trialist
24 Taylor Sutherland
25 Sam Young
26 Andrew Tod
28 Ewan McLeod

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 15:12

Good chance for McCann well saved by their keeper

Hamilton down for treatment

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 15:30

0-1 st mirren

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 15:30

Ooft that was cheap

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 15:32

Mistake by Kyle ,but was coming as we are playing too much back passing between defenders ,but overall pars doing well
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 15:42

I think McCann is jinxed. He did everything right there.

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 15:43

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PARrot, Sat 6 Jul 15:42

I think McCann is jinxed. He did everything right there.


He could have had 2 goals
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 15:47

McCann should’ve scored. Bene has had a bit of a stinker today.

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: pars no1  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 15:48

All this hard work mcpake said they have been doing on fitness does not look like it’s paid off. They looked knackered and unfit
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 15:54

pars no1 , from what I saw last year it was the same story , other teams looked as though they were fitter than us , we always looked knackered

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 16:03

I would be looking to loan out weighton

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 16:13

3 main errors have been defence two were by Kyle,and Mehmet too casual ,giving possession away
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 16:23

BENE is having a nightmare

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: nick_dafc1  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 16:26

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RMGpar, Sat 6 Jul 16:03

I would be looking to loan out weighton


McPake thinks he`s the best striker outwith the SPL so that ain`t happening.
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Paralytic77  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 16:28

Who`s the trialist?
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 16:31

From today`s showing ,we need a keeper for sure,also trying to play out from the back ,which we simple are no good at .
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 16:31

Don’t think the commentator has got a players name right all day

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 16:32

Another one that should have gone in. It`s like we ***** ourselves when we see the goal.

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 16:34

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RMGpar, Sat 6 Jul 16:31

Don’t think the commentator has got a players name right all day


Maybe you aren`t aware that he is partially sighted.

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 16:35


Rigger Al,

He has always been a bit of a nightmare in the Championship, was good in League 1. He is a good shot stopper but far too many mistakes at this level. It baffles me why he got a long term contract (Wighton too)

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 16:46

Well Rigger Al, if we can`t play out from the back, we`ll have to learn soon. No decent team relies on the punt up the park, which can be used to good effect occasionally but not as the regular option.

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: pars no1  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 16:55

Absolute guff. You’re supposed to see improvements as preseason goes on.
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 17:02

While we gave away the ball too often in defence with a suicidal Fisher pass back, some poor passes out from Mehmet when he was under pressure, and Benedictus not having his best game (including giving away the ball which led to their goal) there were quite a few positives today. Sutherland in particular impressed when he came on and Ngwenya outpaced their full back and looked composed with nice control and passing ability under pressure. Good to see Otoo back too. Thought he had a good game. We also played with a bit more tempo at times and we’re looking to get the ball forward more than we did for a lot of last season when at times we had snail pace passy passy sideways and backwards.
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 17:13

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pars no1, Sat 6 Jul 16:55

Absolute guff. You’re supposed to see improvements as preseason goes on.


Seriously?

We just played a Premier League side and only lost to a horror error goal.
Thought we looked quite decent. Certainly an improvement compared with two friendlies v lower league sides.

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: DJAS  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 17:23

Some positives for me today. Sutherland done well when he came on. No16 trialist done fine when he came on. Played some decent stuff at times.

St Mirren done Bene a favour taking No 20 off at ht.





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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: bigdonnie  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 17:28

defence is reasonable but not got proven goal scorer and i hate teams playing it out from back to dangerous

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 17:29

Hope Hamilton isn’t badly injured ?




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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 17:34

According to the report on COWS we didn`t use three of our subs, including the trialist keeper. Is that right?

I presume the outfield trialist sub was the player who crossed for our equalising goal against Cove?
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 17:35

We sacrifice attack in favour of defence. It is the mcpake way. And he won`t change his beliefs because Big ange told him to stick to them.

We will play out from the back 3 with a keeper who isn`t comfortable on the ball.

Hopefully, Kane can provide goals, but I fear it will be a long, drab, low scoring season ahead of us.
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: DJAS  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 17:37

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wee eck, Sat 6 Jul 17:34

According to the report on COWS we didn`t use three of our subs, including the trialist keeper. Is that right?

I presume the outfield trialist sub was the player who crossed for our equalising goal against Cove?


Didn’t look like same boy, I might be wrong though





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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 17:41

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RhinoPars, Sat 6 Jul 17:02

While we gave away the ball too often in defence with a suicidal Fisher pass back, some poor passes out from Mehmet when he was under pressure, and Benedictus not having his best game (including giving away the ball which led to their goal) there were quite a few positives today. Sutherland in particular impressed when he came on and Ngwenya outpaced their full back and looked composed with nice control and passing ability under pressure. Good to see Otoo back too. Thought he had a good game. We also played with a bit more tempo at times and we’re looking to get the ball forward more than we did for a lot of last season when at times we had snail pace passy passy sideways and backwards.


Agree RP
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 17:44

The only sub we never used was the keeper.

MOH and Tod were supposed to be on the bench but weren’t, don’t know what happened to them.

Interesting to find out why the trialist keeper wasn’t used as Mehmet had a stinker, gifting away 2 or 3 golden opportunities by passing straight to the striker.

Sutherland looked lively when he came on and was unlucky with a great shot that keeper did well to keep out.

Wotherspoon looks like he will be massive for us this season, in particular first half he stood out with some nice touches and passes.

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Kba990309  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 17:55

Have we got names for the trialists yet or are they well under wraps.??

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 17:56

Good to hear some encouraging comments. It`s a bit of a worry if Kane wasn`t considered fit enough to take part though.

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 18:00

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wee eck, Sat 6 Jul 17:56

Good to hear some encouraging comments. It`s a bit of a worry if Kane wasn`t considered fit enough to take part though.


Manager already said Kane won’t be playing until the first cup match. He has an individual pre season training plan to complete.
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 18:00

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Ahoy!Ahoy!, Sat 6 Jul 17:44

The only sub we never used was the keeper.

MOH and Tod were supposed to be on the bench but weren’t, don’t know what happened to them.

Interesting to find out why the trialist keeper wasn’t used as Mehmet had a stinker, gifting away 2 or 3 golden opportunities by passing straight to the striker.

Sutherland looked lively when he came on and was unlucky with a great shot that keeper did well to keep out.

Wotherspoon looks like he will be massive for us this season, in particular first half he stood out with some nice touches and passes.


Passing out from the back is okay if you have the players to do it we unfortunately don`t.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: PARadise  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 18:02

Looking at that squad, the immediate concern is a new number 1. Mehmet is no where near it and will massively hamper us again this season if he starts every week

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 18:05

We definitely don’t, it’s crazy that we persist on doing it. The amount of times we created unnecessary pressure on ourselves was constant. Our wide men always seem to be open and ready for the pass but we always go backwards and pass it around it tight areas.

Up the other end of the pitch particularly first half I think we created enough chances and some of the quick play was nice to watch, all of which seemed to disappear after the break and once you start making subs in these games the flow of the game kind of goes.

We did still create a couple in second half Hosler and Sutherland came closest, still think Wotherspoons shot was stopped by hand but not a bad performance for the first hour or so.



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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 18:13

Quote:

Bannockburn Par, Sat 6 Jul 18:00

Quote:

wee eck, Sat 6 Jul 17:56

Good to hear some encouraging comments. It`s a bit of a worry if Kane wasn`t considered fit enough to take part though.


Manager already said Kane won’t be playing until the first cup match. He has an individual pre season training plan to complete.


That’s a worry




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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 18:41

While Mehmet was poor with the ball at his feet under pressure he did come out of his goal area to get the ball on occasion and was looking to distribute the ball much quicker with some good throws. Agree with others that the trialist who came on did well. Nice to see Comrie back looking fully recovered too. Like Ramie a bit worrying Kane not able to get game minutes under his belt.

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 18:46

Is the LB trialist not Adam Supyk as someone else suggested? Looks like him to me - I think it`s the same boy who played at Bayview.

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 18:47

Mcpake also said during the week that Kane should feature against St Mirren. So which one is it? He’s obviously nowhere near fit enough

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 18:49

I thought he said Otoo and Kane were on the same training programme last week.
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: DJAS  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 18:52

Quote:

McCaig`s Tower, Sat 6 Jul 18:46

Is the LB trialist not Adam Supyk as someone else suggested? Looks like him to me - I think it`s the same boy who played at Bayview.


Does look like him





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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 19:11

Is he worth a contract? Doesn`t he play the same position as Ngwenya?
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 19:17

I thought we were showcasing the away kit today because we couldn’t do it against Cove?
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 19:27

Dave Mackay says Kane will be involved v Dundee and I think he said Hammy`s injury is just a knock.
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: pars no1  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 19:30

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Berry, Sat 6 Jul 19:17

I thought we were showcasing the away kit today because we couldn’t do it against Cove?


It is being used for the Spartans game. Not todays
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 19:32

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wee eck, Sat 6 Jul 19:11

Is he worth a contract? Doesn`t he play the same position as Ngwenya?


Need cover so probably ideal ? Won’t want much in wages and no fee




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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: the saline hill puma  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 22:29

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Raymie the Legend, Sat 6 Jul 19:32

Quote:

wee eck, Sat 6 Jul 19:11

Is he worth a contract? Doesn`t he play the same position as Ngwenya?


Need cover so probably ideal ? Won’t want much in wages and no fee


The trialist is miles off it defensively imo. Looked ok going forward, but looks lost when he had to defend.
Need to be looking for better options if he's cover for the first team

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 22:47

Was an interesting game for a friendly.

Thought at times we were very poor on the ball, so many silly passes and gave St Mirren a good few opportunities that on another day they would’ve scored.

I’ve never seen Bene have a poor game before that I recall but by his standards he had a stinker today so glad that’s out his system.

We can’t play out from the back so let’s get that in the bin.

McCann had an excellent chance early on, you get why fans are so frustrated with him, for a striker that was bread and butter, he should be putting that away.

First half didn’t really see much of Ngwenya, wasn’t really that involved but he showed good signs in the second half.

Wotherspoon, you can see what he brings straight away, he will be a big asset for us this season.

Second half it was great to see Comrie, he did well, and was impressed with Sutherland, he has bags of potential.

And wait for it….hats off to Chalmers, thought he did well when he came on as well.

Hard to read too much into the game as a whole, there was a bit of needle to it with some tough challenges and St Mirren kicking the ball away at free kicks etc which I didn’t understand.

It was just good to see Breen, Bene, Comrie, KRH and Otoo all out there playing injury free and ending the game injury free. That was a win in itself.
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 6 Jul 23:42

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Berry, Sat 6 Jul 22:47

Was an interesting game for a friendly.

Thought at times we were very poor on the ball, so many silly passes and gave St Mirren a good few opportunities that on another day they would’ve scored.

I’ve never seen Bene have a poor game before that I recall but by his standards he had a stinker today so glad that’s out his system.

We can’t play out from the back so let’s get that in the bin.

McCann had an excellent chance early on, you get why fans are so frustrated with him, for a striker that was bread and butter, he should be putting that away.

First half didn’t really see much of Ngwenya, wasn’t really that involved but he showed good signs in the second half.

Wotherspoon, you can see what he brings straight away, he will be a big asset for us this season.

Second half it was great to see Comrie, he did well, and was impressed with Sutherland, he has bags of potential.

And wait for it….hats off to Chalmers, thought he did well when he came on as well.

Hard to read too much into the game as a whole, there was a bit of needle to it with some tough challenges and St Mirren kicking the ball away at free kicks etc which I didn’t understand.

It was just good to see Breen, Bene, Comrie, KRH and Otoo all out there playing injury free and ending the game injury free. That was a win in itself.


Berry ,I agree with Chalmers he made a lot of goodc tackles and forward passes
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Sun 7 Jul 00:06

The same old passing boring stuff and no creativity in midfield/upfront.. it’s going to be a long season again if this is how McPake wants to play.

Mon the Pars!
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 7 Jul 00:16

That`s funny because two separate posters have said Wotherspoon will be `massive` and a great asset this season.

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Kozmano1  
Date:   Sun 7 Jul 10:01

I was at the game yesterday and thought we played well. The first 20 minutes we looked really good. Witherspoon is definitely a big improvement. The new left back was a bit to high up the park at times for my liking, but he looks a decent addition also!

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Sun 7 Jul 10:22

Also agree Chalmers did well
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sun 7 Jul 13:25

Agree with Chalmers, looked a different player from last season.

Some really nice touches and good positive forward passes, he just brought some calm to the midfield.

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 7 Jul 13:47

Maybe he`s been reading this forum! 😊😊😊
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Athletico  
Date:   Sun 7 Jul 19:57

Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 7 Jul 00:06

The same old passing boring stuff and no creativity in midfield/upfront.. it’s going to be a long season again if this is how McPake wants to play.


You were either

1. Not at the match
2. Watched it with your eyes closed

We played lots of decent football, lots of positive forward movement, and against a team about to embark into European competition.

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sun 7 Jul 20:43

Highlights didn’t do the game justice.

I was there and thought it was an enjoyable game. Some nice patterns of play and we did look dangerous at times. First hour or so was decent but the game kind of fell away later parts especially after we went down to 10 men.

We looked really good when we were playing quick, sharp passes through them, couple of moves in the first half stick in my mind.

Thought Wightons link up play was good but it was rather annoying that when he came short, so did McCann and the through ball was to no-one. Personally I think if we stick with this formation Wighton and Kane would work well together.



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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower  
Date:   Sun 7 Jul 20:56

I think that was an improvement, as you’d expect in a pre-season, as we move from working on fitness, then formation, to performance and ultimately results in time for the start of competitive matches.

It looks like the 3CB/2WB formations will persist, given we are using it as we get closer to the competitive games, and subs are slotting into a similar system.

I have mixed feelings on this – I think Comrie is a better defender than attacker, and KRH the opposite. I note the latter switched to midfield then seemed to finish as an auxiliary forward. Edwards was more suited to the WB role IMO. I haven’t seen enough of Ngwenya to comment much, but his replacement, who I assume was the Kiwi trialist Adam Supyk, looks like he puts in a decent cross.

The big difference to me was Wotherspoon who I hope will be a real asset. He looked to have more of a free role, and certainly showed good touches and attacking intent. He created a couple of good early chances – McCann did the hard work to hold off the defender but I think should have scored although the keeper was quick off his line – and one for Wighton who I initially felt mistimed his leap but perhaps the ball was always behind him having seen the highlights.

I found St Mirren’s choice of strip a little confusing – it looked like we had lent them our turquoise second choice strips from last season, which might explain why we kept passing to them, Bene and Mehmet being particularly culpable. Bene had a ‘mare – I counted at least 5 errors; a couple of times it took excellent tackles from Breen and Fisher to bail him out; he was also slow to get back when he was caught out. Hopefully he will get up to speed and the championship will provide easier opposition. It’s also more likely that we will clear our lines more agriculturally in a real game.

Not sure what happened with O’Halloran and Tod as they were listed on the bench although I don’t recall seeing them (though this didn’t stop MOH getting some abuse from the stand at one stage…) and Sutherland provided a little cameo – he’s got skill and a bit of pace – I’m sure I’ve heard it said that Taylor’s swift…

Overall, a reasonable showing against a team that may be a little behind us in preparations but which has qualified for Europe – feeling a little happier about our prospects.

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: DJAS  
Date:   Mon 8 Jul 05:48

The announcer actually said over tannoy that MOH had came on as a sub.





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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Mon 8 Jul 09:58

DJAS nobody would have noticed regarding MOH as he is always anonymous anyway LOL

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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: EastEndTales  
Date:   Mon 8 Jul 10:12

Hilarious.

Ep.17 of East End Tales is out now with Andrius Skerla

https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/15082607
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Mon 8 Jul 13:26

Just watched the highlights. Looked like we did ok apart from the brainfart at the goal.

Need to get Taylor Sutherland settled in the team. Impresses me every time I see him.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Pars v St Mirren
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Mon 8 Jul 14:05

O`Halloran was in training gear walking back from the gym towards the tunnel during the warm up, only time i saw Tod was at the end of the game when he was waiting with Todd to go down the tunnel, he wasnt involved in the warm up at any point.

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