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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sat 20 Jul 13:02
We have managed to agree a PPV for today`s game
Subscription is also available for overseas viewers
Apologies for the short notice
https://ParsTV.co.uk
Post Edited (Sat 20 Jul 13:05)
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 20 Jul 13:03
Quote:
brian, Sat 20 Jul 13:02
We have managed to agree a PPV for today`s game
Apologies for the short notice
https://ParsTV.co.uk
Well done Brian
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Topic Originator: steaua
Date: Sat 20 Jul 13:31
Thank You Brian.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 20 Jul 13:45
Appreciate everything those involved in ParsTV do but £14.99 seems pricey for a league cup game that is only £12 to attend in person?
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Topic Originator: oapar
Date: Sat 20 Jul 14:55
My thought too. Will make do with any updates.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:00
apologies, we have tehnical issues getting stream out at Livingston
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:00
Livvy already ahead on pie quality.
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Topic Originator: RhinoPars
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:05
Is it just me - my feed is constantly buffering
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:07
hardware issues with camera interface, think its been sorted , give it a few minutes
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Topic Originator: the saline hill puma
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:13
Livi winning....no idea what happend as streams off.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:13
Mehmet bottled it basically.
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:16
“Hardware issues with Camera Interface”. Surely something that would have been picked up in pre-match testing??
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:17
And we still have another season after this with him as first choice…
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:17
kit was tested and setup last night without any issue
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:17
I thought new equipment was bought / money invested in Pars TV last season?
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Topic Originator: livipar2
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:17
Stream still jumping about all over the place
Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:23
Yeah it`s still very jumpy lads.
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:26
The stream is awful!! If it doesn’t improve I’m giving up with it!
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Topic Originator: livipar2
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:26
Any chance of sorting this as it’s barely watchable??
Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:26
Quote:
xgatespars, Sat 20 Jul 15:23
Yeah it`s still very jumpy lads.
Not missing much. Only the Robbie Muirhead show against our back 8.
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Topic Originator: the saline hill puma
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:27
Stream is terrible still. Definitely not fixed
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:27
Woeful stream just like the team woeful
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Topic Originator: livipar2
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:28
Same issue as the start of game
Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:29
Any tips to make it better my end? The stream no the team. Lol. It`s almost unwatchable. Or is problem at source?
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:29
Amateur stuff this stream.
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:31
A friend of a friend of a friend tells me we always have the worst stream out of every single team when he checks them out on his stick thingy.
Post Edited (Sat 20 Jul 15:33)
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Topic Originator: the saline hill puma
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:31
Stream off again
How can refunds be requested. Total farce
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:34
Bit better now. Still glitches every few seconds though.
I take this statement back. Still tolly
Post Edited (Sat 20 Jul 15:35)
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:35
Don`t slag the p!shy stream it`s livi`s fault, failing that send me your ip address so I can blame your connection.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:36
Quote:
Lucho_8, Sat 20 Jul 15:31
A friend of a friend of a friend tells me we always have the worst stream out of every single team when he checks them out on his stick thingy.
Is it definitely ParsTV or is it the pixelot stream?
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Topic Originator: livipar2
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:38
Ok for a few minutes now back to what is has been like most of the half
Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: nazpar
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:40
The Premier Sports Stream on Tuesday was very good .I don`t know if they did their own stream or did they take the ParsTV stream
nazpar
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:40
Nope, can`t watch anymore, pretty poor we pay 15 quid for a very unstable stream.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:41
apologies but there have been technical issues at Livingston.
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:42
“Is it definitely ParsTV or is it the pixelot stream?”
Parstv in the corner of the screen mostly.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:44
Quote:
brian, Sat 20 Jul 15:41
apologies but there have been technical issues at Livingston.
Just get the money refunded. Ridiculous.
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:44
That`s fair dos but virtually all first half has been woeful. Getting £7.50 back if the 2nd half is better? Or whole lot back if it keeps continuing?
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Topic Originator: livipar2
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:49
Yep, refund please this has been a total shocker
Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:56
Even the halftime pictures are no better! I take it they are working to get this sorted? Surely livi are still no in the dial up ages.
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Topic Originator: NW 1966
Date: Sat 20 Jul 15:56
Waste of money. Really frustrating we don`t have a reliable setup for watching our team.
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Topic Originator: davepars
Date: Sat 20 Jul 16:01
Seriously, get this tae fk
Give us something official
Post Edited (Sat 20 Jul 16:02)
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Sat 20 Jul 16:04
How do we get a refund. This is awful, worst PPV stream I have experienced!
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Topic Originator: ParsMad98
Date: Sat 20 Jul 16:10
Not usually one for complaining but yeah gonna need a refund unfortunately for this one
RM DAFC
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 20 Jul 16:18
Thought it was getting better there and it`s off again.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sat 20 Jul 16:25
we do have a reliable setup, for some reason we have issues today.
we have tried numerous things to get it sorted.
We did a test stream there for the Youth Cup Final with no problems.
we have not had such a problem before so can only apologies.
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 20 Jul 16:30
Any news on folk being refunded? I`m sure you`ll agree that it has been unwatchable. Hopefully at least get last 15 minutes.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sat 20 Jul 17:35
I think you will find that refunds or subscription extentions will occur by the club.
will have to investigate the reason why the video was so jittery, it has not happened before. I know away grounds can be problematic but today was not good to watch :o)
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 20 Jul 17:46
P!sh TV
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Topic Originator: livipar2
Date: Sat 20 Jul 18:01
How do I claim a refund? Wouldn’t normally bother but the stream wasn’t watchable. £15 is shocker of a price as well.
Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 20 Jul 18:56
How on earth was it £15 to watch it on stream when it was only £12 to watch it in person?!
Post Edited (Sat 20 Jul 19:49)
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Topic Originator: livipar2
Date: Sat 20 Jul 19:31
You’re kidding Berry??
Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 20 Jul 19:50
It’s £12 an adult and £1 for kids for all the cup games.
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Topic Originator: livipar2
Date: Sat 20 Jul 19:56
And you actually get to see the game!
Keen to find out out about a refund as no way to contact Pars TV that I can see via their site.
Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 20 Jul 19:59
Quote:
livipar2, Sat 20 Jul 19:56
And you actually get to see the game!
Keen to find out out about a refund as no way to contact Pars TV that I can see via their site.
Seems like the club deal with it, as Brian only accepts praise when it`s running well.
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 20 Jul 20:08
Quote:
livipar2, Sat 20 Jul 19:56
And you actually get to see the game!
Keen to find out out about a refund as no way to contact Pars TV that I can see via their site.
You should be glad you didn`t see the game as it terrible. They did you a favour.
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 20 Jul 21:14
I`ve emailed the club re the refund. When I hear back I`ll let u know. Parstv not really pointing me in any direction to who exactly I contact so I`ve sent a couple to different email address. They might be busy getting new transfers finalised so I`ll no hold my breath waiting for reply. No sure why it was 15 when only 12 to get in.
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Topic Originator: the saline hill puma
Date: Sat 20 Jul 21:24
Quote:
xgatespars, Sat 20 Jul 21:14
I`ve emailed the club re the refund. When I hear back I`ll let u know. Parstv not really pointing me in any direction to who exactly I contact so I`ve sent a couple to different email address. They might be busy getting new transfers finalised so I`ll no hold my breath waiting for reply. No sure why it was 15 when only 12 to get in.
What email did you use?
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Topic Originator: livipar2
Date: Sat 20 Jul 21:50
I’ve emailed support@parstv.co.uk. Will post if I get a response
Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 20 Jul 22:30
It`s always easy to point the finger at the parstv team week in week out, who are trying their best to provide acgood product .Its very frustrating logging on week in week out and the end product like today.
This is out of parstv control surely
I recall it being stated "the club" agreed to purchase upgraded equipment for parstv team
Does anyone know if they got the new equipment.
I am a parstv member and has been for many years ,I don`t know anybody the team ,but have sympathy for the criticism they get when possibly the club have not fullfilled there promise to provide new equipment .
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 20 Jul 22:36
Livi were a Premier League outfit last season with numerous live televised games from their stadium - surely they haven’t gone that far backwards in 3 months that clubs cant stream live from there?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 20 Jul 22:40
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 20 Jul 22:36
Livi were a Premier League outfit last season with numerous live televised games from their stadium - surely they haven’t gone that far backwards in 3 months that clubs cant stream live from there?
Totally different set up.
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Sat 20 Jul 22:41
I asked that question at the time and got a very vague, non-committal answer. The whole set up is clearly not fit for purpose considering it’s used by the club as an income source, and requires a fresh set of eyes to audit the whole set up and process. Unfortunately unless the club are proactive in this, those running it won’t accept there are deficiencies in the output.
I lay no blame at the team of volunteers who give freely of their time to operate this, but the club need to ensure their customers are given value for money.
As has been said many times before, we have the worst offering in the senior leagues and I’ve stopped using it. Had to laugh when Brian said earlier that this hasn’t happened before.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 20 Jul 23:07
You can tell Pars TV is run by volunteers rather than a professional setup. That`s as kind as I can be.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sun 21 Jul 00:03
I think the pricing of Pars TV this season is out of kilter with the value it delivers.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 21 Jul 00:47
Quote:
OzPar, Sun 21 Jul 00:03
I think the pricing of Pars TV this season is out of kilter with the value it delivers.
Oz ,I agree, especially when it`s carried out by volunteers .
My understanding is the club determines the price ,In that case startbpaying the lads for their time
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Topic Originator: NW 1966
Date: Sun 21 Jul 07:43
"Oz ,I agree, especially when it`s carried out by volunteers"
You need to extract your bonce from the sand. You, me, we are paying for a service and it`s substandard at times. Yesterday`s game and last week`s game had unacceptable coverage. Users have that right to complain.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Sun 21 Jul 08:07
We must have one of the worst stream setups , league 2 teams seem to be better than us …
All we get is excuses though
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 21 Jul 08:59
I don`t think that because it`s run by volunteers is an acceptable excuse. We have fans paying good money and receiving a sub standard product. If the product isn`t worth it either reduce the cost or don`t charge. We can always accept it for what it is and take on any recommendations instead of just blaming the user and being it up to standard.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: livipar2
Date: Sun 21 Jul 12:22
Still no confirmation on refunds.
Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: the saline hill puma
Date: Sun 21 Jul 19:16
Quote:
livipar2, Sun 21 Jul 12:22
Still no confirmation on refunds.
Poor imo
I`ll be emailing tomorrow
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Sun 21 Jul 19:27
Livingstons set up last year was completely different as they used QTV due to the need for multi-camera for VAR! Clearly since they’ve been relegated they are no longer using them and have cut back on the infrastructure.
Not excusing the poor service streamwise from Pars TV (especially when they upped the price to £15) but an explanation as to why Livi had good streams last year and nothing this year.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 21 Jul 19:37
Quote:
NW 1966, Sun 21 Jul 07:43
"Oz ,I agree, especially when it`s carried out by volunteers"
You need to extract your bonce from the sand. You, me, we are paying for a service and it`s substandard at times. Yesterday`s game and last week`s game had unacceptable coverage. Users have that right to complain.
What are you talking about ! My point was the parstv team are volunteers
The club take the pars TV money
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sun 21 Jul 20:23
ParsTV was updated with a message early afternoon indicating that refunds were processed, sorry was busy earlier and just getting
time to catch up.
The ParsTV guys did a great job yesterday throughout the whole match attempting to resolve issue
Personally I thought it would have been resolved but part way through second half a partial solution made the stream a little better. We haven`t yet been able to identify the issue, which has never been occurred before. Away grounds can be problematic.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sun 21 Jul 20:29
I meant to say I thought Stripe would send out a confirmation email but I may be mistaken
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Topic Originator: livipar2
Date: Sun 21 Jul 21:30
Thanks Brian. Refund through today.
Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sun 21 Jul 21:52
👍
I also should add I think it can sometimes take a day or two.
I will take another opportunity to say that it is very rare that ParsTV needs to refund.
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Topic Originator: OorWullie
Date: Sun 21 Jul 22:10
I probably use parstv about a 10-12 times a season when working offshore?
I can’t recall ever having an issue with the stream when we were at home since the investment in new hardware at EEP.
I have had some issues when we have been playing away from home but understand that there are things outside of the control of parstv and so I’m half expecting some problems.
I know the lads work hard to get streams out to fans all over the world and I am grateful for their time. They are not employees but volunteers, so deserve respect.
Yesterday was a bit of a disaster but understand that refunds have been given, which is the right thing to do.
In my opinion, the stream should have been cancelled before kick off, rather than persisting in trying to overcome a problem.
Easy to say in hindsight, but maybe less frustrating for subscribers ?
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sun 21 Jul 22:16
Did you have to get in contact with someone, I`ve tried but not heard anything back. Also no refund has come today, granted its a Sunday. Strange if you have yours already though.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sun 21 Jul 22:41
NW1966, can you elaborate on last week`s game issues
If it was away to Spartans then once again it`s extenuating circumstances due to facilities there. As explained parstv hands are tied.
My opinion is we try and get streams out so people can see the game. I thought the quality of the stream was decent considering.
Some opinions say ParsTV shouldn`t stream away, but I think we should where we can. It is more challenging but crisis like yesterday are very rare. To be fair, the blood pressure can be high on a few occasions while away 😁
Usually away games are a bonus within a subscription as it`s not always guaranteed.
Post Edited (Sun 21 Jul 22:43)
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Topic Originator: NW 1966
Date: Mon 22 Jul 06:17
Brian, I took out the monthly subscription for £22 on 13th July, so it`d have been the Spartans game.
I experienced buffering, if that`s the correct terminology. I`m sure I messaged during the game at some point. Frustrating.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Mon 22 Jul 07:16
Yes, you are right, the stream dropped a couple times, it`s an away game. Spartans is a small location and we do everything we can to get stream out for viewers and continue to overcome issues that are out with our control.
If we get a SKY budget we would guarantee a stream without problems. 😎😁
Just my personal opinion
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Topic Originator: NW 1966
Date: Mon 22 Jul 07:42
Fair enough Brian. I`ll stick with it.
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Mon 22 Jul 14:51
Brian - you said a test stream was run at the reserve cup final without issue, pre-match testing checks showed no issue either.
The setup at Livi was exactly the same as the reserve cup final without issue?
Points to something else on this occasion rather than `away ground problems`
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Mon 22 Jul 15:12
Quote:
Connor560, Mon 22 Jul 14:51
Brian - you said a test stream was run at the reserve cup final without issue, pre-match testing checks showed no issue either.
The setup at Livi was exactly the same as the reserve cup final without issue?
Points to something else on this occasion rather than `away ground problems`
It`s always the away grounds problem. If not, it`s your connection at home.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Mon 22 Jul 15:42
To watch a match at times I will stream Falkirk TV (sorry).
I can say with the exception of the Falkirk commentary that the service is night and day compared to ours, home and away.
Also sadly to say the product on the field is also night and day compared to ours.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Mon 22 Jul 15:47
Quote:
FA1968, Mon 22 Jul 15:42
To watch a match at times I will stream Falkirk TV (sorry).
I can say with the exception of the Falkirk commentary that the service is night and day compared to ours, home and away.
Also sadly to say the product on the field is also night and day compared to ours.
Do you need IT support or just counselling? 🤣
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Mon 22 Jul 16:57
Connor, we`re currently blaming the hardware (it`s old) . At home games we now have a brand new desktop, while away games it`s an older well used laptop
We did test there before so didn`t expect any issues. The issue isn`t the away ground per se, but that we don`t always take extra kit which in some cases helps overcome an issue. For example on odd occasions we have taken 2 cameras.
I was just trying to emphasise going to away grounds is challenging for a number of reasons. The Livi team did help the ParsTV guys a lot.
Also just trying to let people see the challenges faced 😁
Weemike, no issues with connection at home. Though we did have one game a year ago and the club immediately resolved.
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