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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 7 Aug 19:13
Surely this has to be a joke, asking for more money from us fans.
It’s all take, take, take the now with this board and we’re getting nothing back in return.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Wed 7 Aug 19:15
Should they not have an open training session?
Or should they not unveil the 3rd strip, which has been in the pipeline for months?
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Wed 7 Aug 19:23
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Wed 7 Aug 19:15
Should they not have an open training session?
Or should they not unveil the 3rd strip, which has been in the pipeline for months?
I get your point but it does feel like the only interest dunfermline have engaging with supporters is for more money
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 7 Aug 19:23
It’s all take at the moment. Not bothered about the open session but why the 3rd kit? We can’t supply enough away kits and have to wait weeks for them, no funds getting put into the squad to help it and here they are asking us for more money.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Wed 7 Aug 19:31
This just amplifies how out of touch the CEO and board are. The sooner they sell up and get out of our club the better….
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Wed 7 Aug 19:32
That`s still nothing to do with unveiling the 3rd kit. I don`t think we need one, but it`s a thing now and has clearly been ordered months ago.
Should the club just put some stock in the shop and do nothing to promote it? That would seem a poor business decision.
I`d go the other way. There`s plenty to be disappointed or annoyed about re DAFC at the moment. However, this isn`t one of them. It more smacks of a mindset that everything the club do is going to be wrong - and that dilutes the credibility of any criticism you make.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 7 Aug 19:36
An open training session? 🤔 lose on Saturday and thats a recipe for disaster!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 7 Aug 19:38
Quote:
Dave_1885, Wed 7 Aug 19:36
An open training session? 🤔 lose on Saturday and thats a recipe for disaster!
Why?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: pars no1
Date: Wed 7 Aug 19:41
I cant even get the away top and they are going to try sell another one? The away one should have been the 3rd kit and a useful away top used instead.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Wed 7 Aug 19:57
Kids love the open training sessions.
I’m hoping the third kit is pink.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Wed 7 Aug 20:08
Has to be done during the school holiday and was this not one of the bonuses for season ticket holders.
3rd Strips it appears to be a thing if we can make more money to buy a new portacabin fantastic.
Will the owners be at the falkirk game and open day after all great leaders stand up in times of crisis.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Wed 7 Aug 20:11
Well what is poor about the training session is if your bairn goes to School in Edinburgh or other areas outwith fife
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Wed 7 Aug 20:16
Again, that is clutching at straws in an attempt to criticise.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Wed 7 Aug 20:31
Open training session as we get to join in? Aye, I’m up for that 🤪.
3rd strips in general- absolute nonsense.
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Wed 7 Aug 20:41
As said above, can’t get the absolute belter of away kit but yet they release a 3rd kit??
I simply do not understand why the club only ordered the same amount of away tops as last season from the supplier, around 500 I believe. For a fan base of around 4.5/5k at most games.
Any true Pars man within the club should have known that away kit was gonna be a seller, I confidently say they coulda ordered double the supply and it woulda been near enough been a sell out.
They’ve missed a trick, cause give 6-8 weeks time when they expect to get the re-stock, the novelty will have wore off and folk might not be interested in buying no more, especially if the team is in a gutter.
Can also confirm I know at least two board members that won’t be at the game this coming Saturday due to holidays. Convenient.
Post Edited (Wed 07 Aug 20:43)
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Wed 7 Aug 20:47
Not sure why they didn’t release the away strip much earlier and put it on preorder so they knew what volume they were going to need to cater for initial demand plus a surplus for the shop.
I’m not too fussed about the third strip, they did the same last year, so don’t have an issue, if people want to buy it they’ll buy it.
I guess it’s the timing of it given the circumstances, a lot of chat about having a thin squad, rumours of administration and fans wanting some clarity on the position and they post an article up promoting an open day.
Thats probably what’s miffed people off more than the actual concept itself.
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Topic Originator: OorWullie
Date: Wed 7 Aug 20:50
Quote:
par_33, Wed 7 Aug 20:41
As said above, can’t get the absolute belter of away kit but yet they release a 3rd kit??
I simply do not understand why the club only ordered the same amount of away tops as last season from the supplier, around 500 I believe. For a fan base of around 4.5/5k at most games.
Any true Pars man within the club should have known that away kit was gonna be a seller, I confidently say they coulda ordered double the supply and it woulda been near enough been a sell out.
They’ve missed a trick, cause give 6-8 weeks time when they expect to get the re-stock, the novelty will have wore off and folk might not be interested in buying no more, especially if the team is in a gutter.
Can also confirm I know at least two board members that won’t be at the game this coming Saturday due to holidays. Convenient.
Who’s that then ?
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Wed 7 Aug 20:51
We`re going to have more kits than players soon
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Wed 7 Aug 21:13
We have more goalie kits than goalies already!
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 7 Aug 21:18
More kits than signings. Gtf Cook and board.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Wed 7 Aug 21:32
It really depends who’s going on holiday. I’d expect cook to take his holiday right after the transfer window closes but this might be the right time of year for other board members to take their holiday if they’ve got anything to do with the running of the club. If they’re just board members without any say on how the club runs then it doesn’t matter a bit if they’re their or not.
I know fans are frustrated but the clubs still got to do what it’s got to do in regards to selling strips etc. It’s the absolute silence until we get a cookie cutter update that tells us nothing that is the problem.
The guddle of the away strip sales is just a bit ridiculous. I would have bought that away strip but I’ve not ordered it yet and I won’t be any time soon because I’m no spending that much money to wait that long for a football top that should be readily available since it’s only just been released.
COYP
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Wed 7 Aug 22:26
Luton Town are keeping thier home strip for 2 years now, there is still a cost of living crisis ,yet parents may feel forced into buying a third strip the club does not need.
.maybe if the could get good quality strips and keep them in stock properly they wouldn`t need to flog a third strip .
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Wed 7 Aug 22:37
I remember the days when you couldn’t even buy a home top and when you could they lasted 2 seasons
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: pars no1
Date: Wed 7 Aug 22:52
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Wed 7 Aug 22:26
Luton Town are keeping thier home strip for 2 years now, there is still a cost of living crisis ,yet parents may feel forced into buying a third strip the club does not need.
.maybe if the could get good quality strips and keep them in stock properly they wouldn`t need to flog a third strip .
They also have £50m parachute payments to help with that. So they can afford to do a good deed
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Wed 7 Aug 23:03
Quote:
pars no1, Wed 7 Aug 22:52
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Wed 7 Aug 22:26
Luton Town are keeping thier home strip for 2 years now, there is still a cost of living crisis ,yet parents may feel forced into buying a third strip the club does not need.
.maybe if the could get good quality strips and keep them in stock properly they wouldn`t need to flog a third strip .
They also have £50m parachute payments to help with that. So they can afford to do a good deed
So stuff the hard working pars fans , we`re going to bleed every bit of money out of you we can ,so much for the community ethos .
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 7 Aug 23:30
Fans don`t have to buy any kit or merchandise. Whatever happened to free will?
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Wed 7 Aug 23:39
Signing the second goalkeeper we`ve been hearing about for weeks before announcing this would probably have made it less of an issue for fans.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Wed 7 Aug 23:46
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 7 Aug 23:30
Fans don`t have to buy any kit or merchandise. Whatever happened to free will?
Oh to live in your utopia, where parents don`t feel the pressure to buy what your child wants , like the newest football strip , school clothing etc.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 7 Aug 23:48
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 7 Aug 23:30
Fans don`t have to buy any kit or merchandise. Whatever happened to free will?
Maybe make a signing for a clearly DESPERATE team and we wouldn`t be so pissed?
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Wed 7 Aug 23:51
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 7 Aug 23:30
Fans don`t have to buy any kit or merchandise. Whatever happened to free will?
You are right, the club are always right , we can afford to commission a third football strip, but not a back up goalkeeper.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 8 Aug 00:12
The club aren`t always right, but neither are they always wrong. Can`t you see the irony in complaining about the lack of player budget and also complaining about an attempt to raise some extra revenue for the club?
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 8 Aug 00:33
Trying to think. Was Kane a free transfer? If so we`ve probably RETAINED a single player from last year. He`s not even really a signing. So... 3 kits to 0 new players. Incredible business. I await the next master stroke from Cook and the Germans in making us a strong and stable league 1 team
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 8 Aug 08:40
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 8 Aug 00:12
The club aren`t always right, but neither are they always wrong. Can`t you see the irony in complaining about the lack of player budget and also complaining about an attempt to raise some extra revenue for the club?
Raising extra revenue? 🤔 was that not the purpose of the Euro fan days? Wheres that revenue gone? 🤔
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 8 Aug 08:48
I presume it`s gone to fund the running of the club. There are more costs involved in that than the player budget unfortunately.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 8 Aug 09:10
Whilst parents can be pressured, I doubt many kids are sitting at home demanding three strips. It`s not as if the club are forcing people to buy them any more than Adidas force them to buy the latest trainers.
The timing is unfortunate though.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 8 Aug 20:19
Just tell the kids they are not getting the third kit. It`ll do them good in the long run. They can`t get everything they want. That`s why we have so many spoilt little tw@ts these days, children and adults alike
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 8 Aug 20:23
No Mr Mcpake you are not getting a back up goalkeeper, you are a spoilt brat
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Thu 8 Aug 20:38
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Thu 8 Aug 20:23
No Mr Mcpake you are not getting a back up goalkeeper, you are a spoilt brat
Oh the irony 😂 a bit like how you are acting just now then?
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Topic Originator: Taxipar
Date: Thu 8 Aug 20:52
Quote:
buffy, Wed 07 Aug 19:57
Kids love the open training sessions.
I’m hoping the third kit is pink.
Lead to believe it’s a dull yellow
A par since 1985
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 8 Aug 21:33
Quote:
red-star-par, Thu 8 Aug 20:19
Just tell the kids they are not getting the third kit. It`ll do them good in the long run. They can`t get everything they want. That`s why we have so many spoilt little tw@ts these days, children and adults alike
Exactly.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 8 Aug 22:14
So what s the point of having a 3rd strip kids or thier parents will not be able to purchase
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Fri 9 Aug 03:24
Ok,was the manager given an agreed budget for the season.
Has the manager used up that budget in the correct manner.
We understand as we do shopping with our partners ,prices change !!
I would think prior to bringing in a trialist we have sufficient funds to sign
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Fri 9 Aug 08:04
As the club need to raise some money why not play “shoot the ball at the directors coupon”. 🤣 plenty of money raised for that one from the supporters.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 9 Aug 09:55
Will anybody be daft enough to buy a third kit ?
The club are having a laugh.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Fri 9 Aug 10:00
What if you really like it? Why does it make you daft if you buy it?
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 9 Aug 10:06
Quote:
veteraneastender, Fri 9 Aug 09:55
Will anybody be daft enough to buy a third kit ?
The club are having a laugh.
What`s your problem? Why would someone have to be "daft" to buy club merchandise? What a strange thing to post.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Fri 9 Aug 10:11
Quote:
veteraneastender, Fri 9 Aug 09:55
Will anybody be daft enough to buy a third kit ?
Yes.
But for some people it`ll be their first or second one.
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The universe is ruled by chance and indifference
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 9 Aug 10:16
It just seems rather strange when the club shop is still lumbered with away and 3rd kits from last season and selling them for £10.
I think they are getting a bit carried away with the success of the away kit. The quality of the errea gear isn`t great either.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Fri 9 Aug 13:51
This will have been planned some time ago. Huge success of away kit was unexpected.
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Wed 14 Aug 11:44
Not seen any teasers of the 3rd strip like used to get put out. Does the club still do communications like that, or have I just missed it.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 14 Aug 11:48
I got an e-mail yesterday which suggested the predominant colour of the third strip is yellow.
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Wed 14 Aug 12:05
Just arrived not even a coffee shop open 😢😢
G.B
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Wed 14 Aug 13:14
Strip now out to view on social media. As mentioned it’s yellow
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 14 Aug 13:15
Looks like a very expensive training top
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Topic Originator: Foxypar
Date: Wed 14 Aug 13:28
Maybe this is my ignorance however; Why do we have a 3rd kit? What is the reason?
I know it’s probably to fleece money out of us supporters however is there any other genuine reason for a 3rd kit?
We are not in any cups or anything special for it. Just don’t see the point unless I am missing something :)
FP
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 14 Aug 14:49
Could it be a condition of the deal with Errea that we have a 3rd kit?
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 14 Aug 14:57
Quote:
Foxypar, Wed 14 Aug 13:28
Maybe this is my ignorance however; Why do we have a 3rd kit? What is the reason?
I know it’s probably to fleece money out of us supporters however is there any other genuine reason for a 3rd kit?
We are not in any cups or anything special for it. Just don’t see the point unless I am missing something :)
To fund another porta cabin down at rosyth
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Wed 14 Aug 14:58)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 14 Aug 15:07
Is there any expenditure that fans incur which couldn`t be branded as `fleecing`? We all know that anything connected to football is overpriced but all these transactions are normal commercial dealings where the buyer can opt not to participate.
The other consideration is that the board and CEO have a duty to try and maximise the club`s revenue. Presumably the third kit does that or they wouldn`t sell one. What would be the reaction if they ignored this potential source of income, especially in the current climate?
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Wed 14 Aug 15:15
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 14 Aug 15:07
Is there any expenditure that fans incur which couldn`t be branded as `fleecing`? We all know that anything connected to football is overpriced but all these transactions are normal commercial dealings where the buyer can opt not to participate.
The other consideration is that the board and CEO have a duty to try and maximise the club`s revenue. Presumably the third kit does that or they wouldn`t sell one. What would be the reaction if they ignored this potential source of income, especially in the current climate?
The problem you have is we are doing terribly on the park and anything we do off it is going to be met with criticism by some. If we had made a few more signings and had a good start to season it would have been met with a more positive response.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 14 Aug 15:16
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 14 Aug 15:07
Is there any expenditure that fans incur which couldn`t be branded as `fleecing`? We all know that anything connected to football is overpriced but all these transactions are normal commercial dealings where the buyer can opt not to participate.
The other consideration is that the board and CEO have a duty to try and maximise the club`s revenue. Presumably the third kit does that or they wouldn`t sell one. What would be the reaction if they ignored this potential source of income, especially in the current climate?
Is not the fact they aren`t maximizing revenue. It`s the fact nobody seems to know where the money is going. The only thing we do know as it`s going nowhere near the 1st team.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 14 Aug 15:35
On a side note - how did the training session go?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 14 Aug 15:41
Fans don`t normally know `where the money is going`. They`re only interested because it seems the player budget is frozen.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Wed 14 Aug 15:43
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 14 Aug 15:41
Fans don`t normally know `where the money is going`. They`re only interested because it seems the player budget is frozen.
Wee eck you must be shattered swimming against the tide constantly
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 14 Aug 15:43
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 14 Aug 15:41
Fans don`t normally know `where the money is going`. They`re only interested because it seems the player budget is frozen.
Rubbish they are concerned as there seems to be more questions than answers in regards to our financial situation while powers at be keep cashing their rather large paychecks.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Wed 14 Aug 15:54
Topic Originator: Dave_1885 like
Date: Wed 14 Aug 15:35
On a side note - how did the training session go?
James McPake said the training session was excellent the players looked really good. The strikers scored loads of goals particularly the ones playing against the side with a rushy goalie.
Post Edited (Wed 14 Aug 15:54)
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Wed 14 Aug 15:56
Par wrote:
> Topic Originator: Dave_1885 like
> Date: Wed 14 Aug 15:35
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> On a side note - how did the training session go?
>
> James McPake said the training session was excellent. The
> strikers scored loads of goals particularly the ones playing
> against the side with a rushy goalie.
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> G.B
Some of it was more like a kick about down the park with your mates
G.B
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Wed 14 Aug 15:58
gordi-b wrote:
> Par wrote:
>
> > Topic Originator: Dave_1885 like
> > Date: Wed 14 Aug 15:35
> >
> > On a side note - how did the training session go?
> >
> > James McPake said the training session was excellent. The
> > strikers scored loads of goals particularly the ones playing
> > against the side with a rushy goalie.
> >
> > G.B
> Some of it was more like a kick about down the park with your
> mates
>
> G.B
Was nice to see Matty doing some work with the Physios looked more intense than the 1st team
G.B
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 14 Aug 16:14
`Wee eck you must be shattered swimming against the tide constantly`
I just like to hear both sides` point of view before forming an opinion. It`s clearly an alien concept to many on here. I`m as frustrated as anyone else at the poor communication but I`m not going to pre-judge anything. Less than two weeks ago we were heading for Administration apparently.
`Rubbish they are concerned as there seems to be more questions than answers in regards to our financial situation while powers at be keep cashing their rather large paychecks`.
Can you tell us how many are drawing remuneration and how much it is?
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 14 Aug 16:55
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 14 Aug 16:14
`Wee eck you must be shattered swimming against the tide constantly`
I just like to hear both sides` point of view before forming an opinion. It`s clearly an alien concept to many on here. I`m as frustrated as anyone else at the poor communication but I`m not going to pre-judge anything. Less than two weeks ago we were heading for Administration apparently.
`Rubbish they are concerned as there seems to be more questions than answers in regards to our financial situation while powers at be keep cashing their rather large paychecks`.
Can you tell us how many are drawing remuneration and how much it is?
Yeah you`re right there doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. There is a difference between trying to see both sides and just pretending everything is rosey and pretty while coming across rather naive.
Cook is paid to run the club and at the minute he is running the club into the ground with his contradictions on who is actually financing the shambles down at rosyth as this seems to be his go to excuse when asked about any financial situation. We have seen our stadium fall into a state of disrepair and a really poor matchday experience which was also another thing he likes to harp on about. Let`s not forget we have a team who are guaranteed to be relegation favorites ( or in my opinion dead certs to go down) if we continue to neglect the needs with quality required for this division. And also signing a striker who has yet to complete 90 minutes of football who was our top target. All of this while rising season ticket costs and walk up tickets. We were joint second highest season ticket prices last season behind Dundee United limped to safety and our board decided to increase the prices this year? Which I`m sure fans wouldn`t mind if there was clear development but we sold someone who was by far our best player and haven`t strengthened in areas of need.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 14 Aug 17:12
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Wed 14 Aug 16:55
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 14 Aug 16:14
`Wee eck you must be shattered swimming against the tide constantly`
I just like to hear both sides` point of view before forming an opinion. It`s clearly an alien concept to many on here. I`m as frustrated as anyone else at the poor communication but I`m not going to pre-judge anything. Less than two weeks ago we were heading for Administration apparently.
`Rubbish they are concerned as there seems to be more questions than answers in regards to our financial situation while powers at be keep cashing their rather large paychecks`.
Can you tell us how many are drawing remuneration and how much it is?
Yeah you`re right there doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. There is a difference between trying to see both sides and just pretending everything is rosey and pretty while coming across rather naive.
Cook is paid to run the club and at the minute he is running the club into the ground with his contradictions on who is actually financing the shambles down at rosyth as this seems to be his go to excuse when asked about any financial situation. We have seen our stadium fall into a state of disrepair and a really poor matchday experience which was also another thing he likes to harp on about. Let`s not forget we have a team who are guaranteed to be relegation favorites ( or in my opinion dead certs to go down) if we continue to neglect the needs with quality required for this division. And also signing a striker who has yet to complete 90 minutes of football who was our top target. All of this while rising season ticket costs and walk up tickets. We were joint second highest season ticket prices last season behind Dundee United limped to safety and our board decided to increase the prices this year? Which I`m sure fans wouldn`t mind if there was clear development but we sold someone who was by far our best player and haven`t strengthened in areas of need.
Honestly why do you bother? Maybe you should take a break.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 14 Aug 17:20
That sounds like a good scam. Pay over £1.6m into a club so they can take money out of it!
The problem is we don`t actually know how much autonomy David Cook has. Some CEOs are given a lot of latitude whilst others are just expected to carry out the strategy of the board.
The board have actually not stinted on the playing budget when the need has arisen. During the relegation season they gave Peter Grant enough scope to buy players and when that didn`t work out they let John Hughes build virtually a new squad in the January transfer window. Similarly last season when the injury crisis was at its worst they financed the acquisition of guys like MFW, MWH and Kane which probably saved us from relegation.
That may be why they are reluctant to splash the cash just now. Football clubs are labour-intensive and the players` wages will be a big cost so it`s not surprising they`re trying to control them. Maybe their CFO will come up with other areas that can yield economies without affecting the squad numbers. There are a lot of unanswered questions but that`s no reason to just assume the answers are the ones that suit our interpretation of things.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Wed 14 Aug 17:20
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Foxypar, Wed 14 Aug 13:28
Maybe this is my ignorance however; Why do we have a 3rd kit? What is the reason?
I know it’s probably to fleece money out of us supporters however is there any other genuine reason for a 3rd kit?
We are not in any cups or anything special for it. Just don’t see the point unless I am missing something :)
No body is fleecing anybody ,it`s a product avaliable ,you either buy or you don`t.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 14 Aug 17:37
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da_no_1, Wed 14 Aug 17:12
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cammypar 1995, Wed 14 Aug 16:55
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wee eck, Wed 14 Aug 16:14
`Wee eck you must be shattered swimming against the tide constantly`
I just like to hear both sides` point of view before forming an opinion. It`s clearly an alien concept to many on here. I`m as frustrated as anyone else at the poor communication but I`m not going to pre-judge anything. Less than two weeks ago we were heading for Administration apparently.
`Rubbish they are concerned as there seems to be more questions than answers in regards to our financial situation while powers at be keep cashing their rather large paychecks`.
Can you tell us how many are drawing remuneration and how much it is?
Yeah you`re right there doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. There is a difference between trying to see both sides and just pretending everything is rosey and pretty while coming across rather naive.
Cook is paid to run the club and at the minute he is running the club into the ground with his contradictions on who is actually financing the shambles down at rosyth as this seems to be his go to excuse when asked about any financial situation. We have seen our stadium fall into a state of disrepair and a really poor matchday experience which was also another thing he likes to harp on about. Let`s not forget we have a team who are guaranteed to be relegation favorites ( or in my opinion dead certs to go down) if we continue to neglect the needs with quality required for this division. And also signing a striker who has yet to complete 90 minutes of football who was our top target. All of this while rising season ticket costs and walk up tickets. We were joint second highest season ticket prices last season behind Dundee United limped to safety and our board decided to increase the prices this year? Which I`m sure fans wouldn`t mind if there was clear development but we sold someone who was by far our best player and haven`t strengthened in areas of need.
Honestly why do you bother? Maybe you should take a break.
When you can hold a proper adult conversation I might think about it.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 14 Aug 17:38
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 14 Aug 17:20
That sounds like a good scam. Pay over £1.6m into a club so they can take money out of it!
The problem is we don`t actually know how much autonomy David Cook has. Some CEOs are given a lot of latitude whilst others are just expected to carry out the strategy of the board.
The board have actually not stinted on the playing budget when the need has arisen. During the relegation season they gave Peter Grant enough scope to buy players and when that didn`t work out they let John Hughes build virtually a new squad in the January transfer window. Similarly last season when the injury crisis was at its worst they financed the acquisition of guys like MFW, MWH and Kane which probably saved us from relegation.
That may be why they are reluctant to splash the cash just now. Football clubs are labour-intensive and the players` wages will be a big cost so it`s not surprising they`re trying to control them. Maybe their CFO will come up with other areas that can yield economies without affecting the squad numbers. There are a lot of unanswered questions but that`s no reason to just assume the answers are the ones that suit our interpretation of things.
There isn`t any assumption in my post. We currently don`t have a back up keeper surely that would be looked as essential but when we travel to games without a doctor who knows anymore.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 14 Aug 17:57
I thought you were assuming Cook was running the club without recourse to the board. You`re also assuming we`ll be relegated after two games. I thought it had been established that it was the home club`s responsibility to provide a doctor.
I note you side-stepped all the other points I made.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 14 Aug 17:59
Was hoping for a pen gif after today’s session….
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Wed 14 Aug 18:56
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Dave_1885, Wed 14 Aug 13:15
Looks like a very expensive training top
First thought that came to my mind as well.
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Topic Originator: Par4ages
Date: Wed 14 Aug 19:49
Is it not a good thing to have choices we all have the opportunity to buy any or all the strips or even none, no one is forcing anyone to buy kit. This is just grumbling for grumbling sake.
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Topic Originator: QPR_Par
Date: Wed 14 Aug 20:39
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wee eck, Wed 7 Aug 23:30
Fans don`t have to buy any kit or merchandise. Whatever happened to free will?
It became a classic Rush song on the Permanent Waves album.
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Topic Originator: RhinoPars
Date: Wed 14 Aug 21:09
Wee Eck makes some fair points
Kids also just can`t have everything they want. If you can afford to get one kit they can chose the one they like the best. This may require a bit of delayed gratification (no bad thing) as the kids will then have to wait for the second and third kits to be released before deciding which one to pick.
I would be interested to know how much having a third kit boosts revenue for the club because surely we don`t really need a third kit. I would also be interested to know how many people actually buy all three kits anyway.
If needed, couldn`t we just use a third or second kit from a previous season (if, for some strange reason, first and second kits still clash)?
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Topic Originator: RhinoPars
Date: Wed 14 Aug 21:10
Wee Eck makes some fair points
Kids also just can`t have everything they want. If you can afford to get one kit they can chose the one they like the best. This may require a bit of delayed gratification (no bad thing) as the kids will then have to wait for the second and third kits to be released before deciding which one to pick.
I would be interested to know how much having a third kit boosts revenue for the club because surely we don`t really need a third kit. I would also be interested to know how many people actually buy all three kits anyway.
If needed, couldn`t we just use a third or second kit from a previous season (if, for some strange reason, first and second kits still clash)?
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Thu 15 Aug 08:25
Clubs forget what the purpose of an away kit is.
I recall St Johnstone a few years back with a blue home kit and a blue/red away kit.
So while your home kit is predominantly white and black and your away kit black there will be a need for a 3rd kit.
I suppose the question is whether having a black away kit is appropriate when you’re going to be facing at least two teams whose colours are black and white.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 15 Aug 12:46
3rd kits are always about making money. I don’t know why clubs don’t follow a cadence of 1st and 2nd strips change in summer and introduce a 3rd in lead up to Christmas with commitment it lasts a calendar year instead of a season.
I would never buy a strip even as gift at Christmas as I know it’s on its way out so a bit of dispersion deals with that concern and is easier on the pocket (as well as I expect a bit additional cash flow in the winter).
Post Edited (Thu 15 Aug 12:48)
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Topic Originator: OorWullie
Date: Thu 15 Aug 12:52
Don`t think the 3rd strip should be priced the same as the home and away
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Thu 15 Aug 15:32
How much money do we make off the strips and other training gear that is sold in the club shop.
Would it be possible to maybe change the Home top every 2 years with the Away one in the alternate years or would the club lose too much money. No need for a 3rd strip.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Thu 15 Aug 16:22
more strips released than players signed kinda says it all
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 15 Aug 16:44
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Par, Thu 15 Aug 15:32
How much money do we make off the strips and other training gear that is sold in the club shop.
Would it be possible to maybe change the Home top every 2 years with the Away one in the alternate years or would the club lose too much money. No need for a 3rd strip.
They would need to up the quality I have worn my away shirt twice in the house only and it`s bobbled and faded. Probably past the refund period or it would have been returned.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Thu 15 Aug 16:44)
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