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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Tue 1 Oct 20:51
5-1at halftime, Celtic could be in for their worst defeat in European Football.
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Topic Originator: stevemac
Date: Tue 1 Oct 21:03
😂😂😂 Hope it`s 7 or 8 so they know how it feels.
Of course it`ll be Scottish football`s fault 😂
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 1 Oct 21:19
Aye but come on… how are Celtic supposed to compete against clubs who have a much bigger financial budget 🤷🏻♂️
COYP
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 1 Oct 21:24
6-1
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 1 Oct 21:32
Quote:
buffy, Tue 1 Oct 21:24
6-1
😂😂😂
I’ve switched it off now. Too much of a non-event now.
Also I’m not enjoying seeing how far behind Europe Scottish football actually is
COYP
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 1 Oct 21:37
7-1
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Tue 1 Oct 21:38
Yaaaas there`s something about 7 that`s much, much, much worse than 6. You`re through the looking glass of peltings at that point.
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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Tue 1 Oct 21:38
Loving it
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Tue 1 Oct 21:44
It actually looked quite ominous for Celtic after BVB`s first attack because they seemed to slice through the Celtic defence very easily. Rogers has never had any success in European competition to date and he`s looking quite naive tonight. Maybe a little of the James McPake caution would have at least kept the score respectable.
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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Tue 1 Oct 21:56
Scottish Football shown up for the second time this year against the Germans, absolutely awful.
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Tue 1 Oct 22:04
Oh what a joy that was. Outstanding
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Tue 1 Oct 22:16
Steady now Big T, try and compose yourself.😏
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Tue 1 Oct 22:17
Quote:
Paralex, Tue 1 Oct 22:16
Steady now Big T, try and compose yourself.😏
Too late 😂😂
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 1 Oct 22:19
Apparently Brendan Rodgers is the only manager to have been in charge of a team that has conceded 7 goals in a CL match more than once - and he`s done it three times!
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Tue 1 Oct 22:29
Brendan Rodgers has lost at least six goals away from home in a UCL game in every season he`s been at Celtic.
2016: 7-0 vs Barcelona
2017: 7-1 vs PSG
2023: 6-0 vs Atletico
2024: 7-1 vs Dortmund
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Tue 1 Oct 23:31
Thanks for the stats, saltounsgonnagetu. Very revealing.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 2 Oct 00:24
Big roar in the Temple Bar in Tenerife tonight when Celtic scored then remarkably quiet, was in restaurant across the road.
Some sad faces later on, but whey, GTURFY!!!🤭🙈🤣🤣🤣
Post Edited (Wed 02 Oct 00:24)
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Wed 2 Oct 01:49
Wee diddy teams like Celtic and Rangers should merge so they have a chance to compete with the big teams.
They could sell their grounds for housing and build a new stadium and their supporter base would be practically doubled.
I`m sure their would be some resistance from older fans, but they`d soon get used to it if they were getting beat by less.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Wed 2 Oct 03:56
That marks the end of Scotland`s automatic Champions League group entry. After that performance, this is probably a good thing.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 2 Oct 07:11
I didn`t lose any sleep over Celtic`s absolute humping, but it`s quite sobering when you consider that they are by far the best team in Scotland right now. When I started following the Pars in the 60s, Scottish teams would expect to beat teams from the likes of France and Germany and usually did. The Pars knocked out Bordeaux and Stuttgart, as I recall. We also eliminated Everton and West Brom, of course.it`s true that European clubs have made great strides since then, but Scottish clubs have regressed, making the turnaround even more stark.
Celtic might have avoided such a total pasting if Rodgers hadn`t set his team up to be so gung ho. Did he really think his bhoys would be a match for BVB? Deluded if he did.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 2 Oct 07:27
The champions of each country should always get automatic entry to the champions league.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy
Date: Wed 2 Oct 09:32
Methinks Celtic needed a David Moyes style approach last night. First and foremost be difficult to break down and know exactly when to counter attack for maximum effect.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Wed 2 Oct 09:54
Huge gulf between some of the teams this year in this new format.
Celtic looked miles ahead of Bratislava at Parkhead and the gap from them to Dortmund looked just as big.
Could be a few more real hammerings dished out in this phase with the new setup; Bayern took nine goals off Dinamo Zagreb in their opening game.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Wed 2 Oct 10:37
Maybe we can swap James McPake for Brendan Rogers. James could do their European games, Brendan can do our league games that weekend?
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Wed 2 Oct 11:13
"The champions of each country should always get automatic entry to the champions league."
There are 55 member associations in UEFA, so there`s 55 teams (including the champions from Northern Ireland, Wales, the Faroes, Gibraltar, Liechtenstein, Andorra, etc)... how big do you want the group/league to be?
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 2 Oct 11:52
Quote:
kelty_par, Wed 2 Oct 11:13
"The champions of each country should always get automatic entry to the champions league."
There are 55 member associations in UEFA, so there`s 55 teams (including the champions from Northern Ireland, Wales, the Faroes, Gibraltar, Liechtenstein, Andorra, etc)... how big do you want the group/league to be?
I get where da no 1 is coming from - It is called the Champions League after all - but as was pointed out above, a number of teams who were Champions of their country have already suffered severe hammerings. As well as Celtic, Slovan and Dinamo ( two teams who played the Pars in the 60s and went on to lift the trophy) have already been gubbed and they came through the qualifying stages. I also remember Rangers` humiliation when they played as Scottish champions a few years back....
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 2 Oct 12:04
Quote:
kelty_par, Wed 2 Oct 11:13
"The champions of each country should always get automatic entry to the champions league."
There are 55 member associations in UEFA, so there`s 55 teams (including the champions from Northern Ireland, Wales, the Faroes, Gibraltar, Liechtenstein, Andorra, etc)... how big do you want the group/league to be?
Either include all the champions or call it something else. There should be no place for 2nd 3rd 4th 5th place teams either.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Wed 2 Oct 12:55
Celtic were abysmal last night but BVB were outstanding for a change. Punished every mistake they made and clinical finishing.
Can only presume Celtic thought this was winnable after Rangers won there last year but as was said , they should have set up defensively and hit on the break which they are unaccustomed to doing but I’m not complaining one bit.
Their fans finally get a taste of what it’s like for most Scottish teams facing them and the huge financial gap.
Heja BVB! 🖤💛
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Wed 2 Oct 18:08
In terms of revenue, Dortmund have 2.9x the revenue of Celtic, who in turn generate 24.4x the revenue of St Johnstone.
Hopefully Cellic fans think of this when complaining of an opposition parking thd bus, because they think it`s the fault of other Scottish teams.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 2 Oct 18:44
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Wed 2 Oct 18:08
In terms of revenue, Dortmund have 2.9x the revenue of Celtic, who in turn generate 24.4x the revenue of St Johnstone.
Hopefully Cellic fans think of this when complaining of an opposition parking thd bus, because they think it`s the fault of other Scottish teams.
Celtic can`t see beyond their own finances. Same with Rangers. They couldn`t give a crap about Scottish clubs.
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Wed 2 Oct 20:25
Maybe they need to get back to a more traditional format where the teams play each other twice a season.
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Topic Originator: Parster
Date: Fri 4 Oct 04:35
The same way that teams in Scotland are meant to compete with there financial superiority in scotland
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Fri 4 Oct 11:11
I think it is a good indicator of the state of Scottish football. It`s perhaps just one game and you can`t extrapolate from there but the signs in the gap between European and English teams is there to see. It is reflected in the gap between the Premiership and Championship teams in Scotland. Other than Rangers and Celtic the other team make up the numbers, or trundle along the bottom of the league table.
As a spectator sport its becoming a hard watch in my view as teams focusing not losing, and have limited options to bring in and risk young players. It`s very much a downward trajectory and there seems to be very few ideas coming out of those who are in a position to make change happen.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Fri 4 Oct 11:15
Rodgers like Postecoglu before him, like Rodgers 1st term is either too naive or too ignorant to change they "style". Sitting 10 men behind the ball isnt pretty but going trying to play open expansive football gets results like Tuesday. At least 3 times in opening 10mins there was gap wider than the clyde in the middle of the Celtic defence.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Fri 4 Oct 13:20
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Fri 4 Oct 11:15
Rodgers like Postecoglu before him, like Rodgers 1st term is either too naive or too ignorant to change they "style". Sitting 10 men behind the ball isnt pretty but going trying to play open expansive football gets results like Tuesday. At least 3 times in opening 10mins there was gap wider than the clyde in the middle of the Celtic defence.
Maybe just doesn`t have players suited to, or used to doing that because they never need to domestically.
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Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par
Date: Fri 4 Oct 14:24
I didn`t see it, but judging by the scoreline, the setup can`t have been too clever. That said, you just need to look at the squads to see there is a massive gulf in quality. These days Celtic and Rangers can attract players from the Championship, bottom reaches of the EPL at best.
It won`t solve all the issues, and the financial gap between the super wealthy clubs and everyone else is only widening but bigger leagues (16 or 18) would be a great start to change in Scottish football. At the top, it would create a slight chance for someone else to finish in the top 2, 8 games out of 38 against the OF makes this almost impossible. Playoffs in all leagues would be more meaningful, much more of an achievement to come 4th in a league of 16/18. It doesn`t necessarily mean many more meaningless games, if the league is tight (which they should be). Even if there are more of these towards the end of the season - an opportunity to get more youngsters on the pitch - helping the national team. The OF having less league fixtures have more time to prepare for European games and can arrange these crappy overseas tours (they can play each other 2 more in the States, Saudi, on the moon - wherever they like).
And more importantly than all of that is the fans - the fans that attend the games - the reason it exists. Visiting more grounds, only per season (in the league at least) can surely only encourage attendances?
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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Fri 4 Oct 15:10
Quote:
Bucuresti Par, Fri 4 Oct 14:24
I didn`t see it, but judging by the scoreline, the setup can`t have been too clever. That said, you just need to look at the squads to see there is a massive gulf in quality. These days Celtic and Rangers can attract players from the Championship, bottom reaches of the EPL at best.
It won`t solve all the issues, and the financial gap between the super wealthy clubs and everyone else is only widening but bigger leagues (16 or 18) would be a great start to change in Scottish football. At the top, it would create a slight chance for someone else to finish in the top 2, 8 games out of 38 against the OF makes this almost impossible. Playoffs in all leagues would be more meaningful, much more of an achievement to come 4th in a league of 16/18. It doesn`t necessarily mean many more meaningless games, if the league is tight (which they should be). Even if there are more of these towards the end of the season - an opportunity to get more youngsters on the pitch - helping the national team. The OF having less league fixtures have more time to prepare for European games and can arrange these crappy overseas tours (they can play each other 2 more in the States, Saudi, on the moon - wherever they like).
And more importantly than all of that is the fans - the fans that attend the games - the reason it exists. Visiting more grounds, only per season (in the league at least) can surely only encourage attendances?
Doncaster would never ruffle the feathers of the OF, so league reconstruction will never happen with him in charge.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Fri 4 Oct 16:07
more down to current TV deal we have (as poor as it is financially) is based on having 4 Glasgow derby games for them to broadcast
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 4 Oct 16:26
From BBC Sport -
The SPFL says it distributed £37.9m to the 42 member clubs in its latest accounting period, an increase of 6%. The league body`s figures show a similar percentage increase in turnover to a new high of £44.3m.
A new broadcasting deal with Sky and "other domestic and overseas broadcasting agreements" contributed to revenue. Additionally, net gate receipts of £2.1m went to last season`s Premier Sports Cup semi-finalists Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibernian and Rangers, who won the tournament.
Celtic won the Premiership, Dundee United secured promotion by finishing top of the Championship while the League 1 and 2 titles went to Falkirk and Stenhousemuir, respectively. The Challenge Cup was won by Airdrieonians Celtic won the SWPL title for the first time and Rangers won the SWPL Cup.
"We’re really proud to announce record turnover and fee payments to our member clubs today as we continue to build on the strong income growth and commercial deals in recent years," said SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster.
"Given the challenging market and economic conditions right now, these encouraging results reinforce the huge popularity of Scottish football, as well as the level of interest this generates with our broadcasters and our increasing roster of partners."
Celtic men and Rangers women also won the Scottish Cup tournaments, which unlike the other major domestic tournaments are organised by the Scottish FA.
For the current season, the SPFL has new sponsorship and broadcasting deals in place.
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