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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 9 Oct 15:19
Scotland qualifiers v Croatia and Portugalwill be shown on the viaplay YouTube channel. A sub licencing deal with itv and stv was close but no deal was confirmed.
This marks the first time this century a Scotland competitive match won`t be broadcast on linear TV.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Wed 09 Oct 15:37)
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Topic Originator: steaua
Date: Wed 9 Oct 15:55
A bit rich when the England game is on STV.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 9 Oct 16:15
Quote:
steaua, Wed 9 Oct 15:55
A bit rich when the England game is on STV.
Itv bought the rights for the England game off uefa. Scottish ones were purchased by viaplay who id assume rejected the bid from itv or stv.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 9 Oct 16:36
Unlike ITV, STV simply don`t have the money to pay for such TV rights.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 9 Oct 16:38
Why can`t ITV buy them and do a deal with STV?
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 9 Oct 16:43
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 9 Oct 16:38
Why can`t ITV buy them and do a deal with STV?
Probably because viaplay has the rights and would prefer to keep them than give them to itv.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: parak obama
Date: Wed 9 Oct 16:43
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Wed 9 Oct 15:19
Scotland qualifiers v Croatia and Portugalwill be shown on the viaplay YouTube channel. A sub licencing deal with itv and stv was close but no deal was confirmed.
This marks the first time this century a Scotland competitive match won`t be broadcast on linear TV.
Does this mean it will be free to view?
[IMG]https://share2.co.uk/f/1152_471_P300411_16.49_[02].jpg[/IMG]
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 9 Oct 16:53
Quote:
parak obama, Wed 9 Oct 16:43
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Wed 9 Oct 15:19
Scotland qualifiers v Croatia and Portugalwill be shown on the viaplay YouTube channel. A sub licencing deal with itv and stv was close but no deal was confirmed.
This marks the first time this century a Scotland competitive match won`t be broadcast on linear TV.
Does this mean it will be free to view?
Yes
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 9 Oct 17:10
Quote:
veteraneastender, Wed 9 Oct 17:07
"Why can`t ITV buy them and do a deal with STV?"
The two have had a difficult relationship in the not too distant past.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-13206671
It`s more off a wider commercial television industry issue than simply one of sports coverage as far as I can tell.
And to my knowledge viaplay still owns the rights to our games.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 9 Oct 17:26
"And to my knowledge viaplay still owns the rights to our games."
Understood - the question is when did they acquire the rights and why didn`t/couldn`t STV do so at that point ?
Lack of that kind of money I suspect/
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 9 Oct 17:28
Quote:
veteraneastender, Wed 9 Oct 17:26
"And to my knowledge viaplay still owns the rights to our games."
Understood - the question is when did they acquire the rights and why didn`t/couldn`t STV do so at that point ?
Lack of that kind of money I suspect/
They got the rights last year, then changed their stance on the UK this summer. The first round of games were bought by STV/ITV, whereas they havent reached an agreement this window. Games shown live on Viaplays Youtube channel free of charge instead.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 9 Oct 18:02
Quote:
Dave_1885, Wed 9 Oct 17:28
Quote:
veteraneastender, Wed 9 Oct 17:26
"And to my knowledge viaplay still owns the rights to our games."
Understood - the question is when did they acquire the rights and why didn`t/couldn`t STV do so at that point ?
Lack of that kind of money I suspect/
They got the rights last year, then changed their stance on the UK this summer. The first round of games were bought by STV/ITV, whereas they havent reached an agreement this window. Games shown live on Viaplays Youtube channel free of charge instead.
Pretty much what Dave said.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: nazpar
Date: Wed 9 Oct 18:17
I watched the France v Italy game on Viaplay YouTube but there was no commentary on it
nazpar
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Wed 9 Oct 21:18
Quote:
nazpar, Wed 9 Oct 18:17
I watched the France v Italy game on Viaplay YouTube but there was no commentary on it
Might no be a bad thing tbf 😂
Honestly, if I ever meet Sam Matterface I’ll struggle no to tell him to shut his puss - whether he says anything or no
COYP
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 10 Oct 09:19
Quote:
nazpar, Wed 9 Oct 18:17
I watched the France v Italy game on Viaplay YouTube but there was no commentary on it
Radio Scotland are covering the game in Zagreb - you could try a hybrid job !!!
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:39
Someone needs to be made accountable for this .How the powers that be allow this to happen ? Should all be fired ,more painful when England games are being shown on STV
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Fri 11 Oct 15:49
Quote:
Rigger Al, Fri 11 Oct 15:39
Someone needs to be made accountable for this .How the powers that be allow this to happen ? Should all be fired ,more painful when England games are being shown on STV
Wasn`t too painful last night 😉
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 11 Oct 16:16
Quote:
Rigger Al, Fri 11 Oct 15:39
Someone needs to be made accountable for this .How the powers that be allow this to happen ? Should all be fired ,more painful when England games are being shown on STV
It’s a complete joke. Thing is, I’ll be watching it on YouTube. To me I don’t understand why STV or especially the BBC aren’t taking the rights to it. Surely they would have known that Viaplay would have put it on YT and they’re currently in panic mode about dwindling viewers. They’ve literally just gave more people no choice but to watch YT
COYP
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Fri 11 Oct 17:21
ITV 4 got good viewing figures for both Scotland games so I imagine Viaplay were asking for more money. They`ve kind of cut their nose off to spite their face somewhat as they won`t get as much from YouTube adverts than they would have from selling the rights to ITV or the BBC but that`s up to them. UEFA need to look at having some kind of rule about games being shown in the territory of the national team though, but I can`t see that happening with UEFA more interested in money than anything much else.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 11 Oct 18:10
"Someone needs to be made accountable for this .How the powers that be allow this to happen ? Should all be fired ,more painful when England games are being shown on STV"
If STV can`t afford to secure the rights - who would you hold responsible ?
Post Edited (Fri 11 Oct 18:45)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 11 Oct 18:31
Slightly off-topic but apparently Celtic refused to switch next week`s League game against Aberdeen from the traditional Saturday 3 pm ko to live TV transmission later but the fee offered of £75k is probably not significant to them.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Fri 11 Oct 18:37
Just in case some folk forget ,If you get the game on Youtube on your Laptop , remember you can cast it to your tv ! so your watching it on the big screen
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 11 Oct 18:48
Don`t modern TVs have YouTube installed ?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 11 Oct 19:05
Quote:
veteraneastender, Fri 11 Oct 18:48
Don`t modern TVs have YouTube installed ?
Yes.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Fri 11 Oct 19:49
Quote:
jake89, Fri 11 Oct 19:05
Quote:
veteraneastender, Fri 11 Oct 18:48
Don`t modern TVs have YouTube installed ?
Yes.
Of course they do ! Put it down to a senior moment
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 11 Oct 19:57
YouTube on a TV will have adverts, casting it from a computer will allow you to ways to block YouTube ads. I can`t go on that site without blockers active
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 11 Oct 20:24
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Wed 9 Oct 16:43
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 9 Oct 16:38
Why can`t ITV buy them and do a deal with STV?
Probably because viaplay has the rights and would prefer to keep them than give them to itv.
I’m pretty sure Viaplay spoke to both BBC & ITV/STV about a sublicense
COYP
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Fri 11 Oct 20:49
Quote:
veteraneastender, Fri 11 Oct 18:10
"Someone needs to be made accountable for this .How the powers that be allow this to happen ? Should all be fired ,more painful when England games are being shown on STV"
If STV can`t afford to secure the rights - who would you hold responsible ?
To answer that fully you`d need some idea of budgets but it feels like if ITV are given the budget to secure England games, STV should be given a budget to secure Scotland games.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Fri 11 Oct 20:54
im overseas and I see its advertised on Virgin TV
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Fri 11 Oct 21:02
Quote:
fcda, Fri 11 Oct 20:49
Quote:
veteraneastender, Fri 11 Oct 18:10
"Someone needs to be made accountable for this .How the powers that be allow this to happen ? Should all be fired ,more painful when England games are being shown on STV"
If STV can`t afford to secure the rights - who would you hold responsible ?
To answer that fully you`d need some idea of budgets but it feels like if ITV are given the budget to secure England games, STV should be given a budget to secure Scotland games.
Problem with that is STV is largely independent of ITV. Just feels unfair.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 11 Oct 21:54
Quote:
fcda, Fri 11 Oct 20:49
Quote:
veteraneastender, Fri 11 Oct 18:10
"Someone needs to be made accountable for this .How the powers that be allow this to happen ? Should all be fired ,more painful when England games are being shown on STV"
If STV can`t afford to secure the rights - who would you hold responsible ?
To answer that fully you`d need some idea of budgets but it feels like if ITV are
given the budget to secure England games, STV should be given a budget to secure Scotland games.
ITV and STV are separate business entities, the latter does not have the financial stature to buy these games.
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Fri 11 Oct 22:20
For those questioning why ITV can afford to pay for football matches but STV cannot, you might be interested in the respective sizes of the two companies (from Wiki):
ITV plc
Revenue
£3,624 million (2023)
Operating income
£238 million (2023)
Net income
£209 million (2023)
STV GROUP plc
Revenue
£168.4 million (2023)
Operating income
£12.4 million (2023)
Net income
£5.3 million (2023)
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 11 Oct 23:10
In Tenerife just now and Temple Bar are showing game tomorrow night, they say BEIN sports or any other sports channel will be found.
Those that have access to VPN`s shouldn`t have a problem
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 12 Oct 08:25
Quote:
Rigger Al, Fri 11 Oct 15:39
Someone needs to be made accountable for this .How the powers that be allow this to happen ? Should all be fired ,more painful when England games are being shown on STV
It`s uefa who sells the rights nothing to do with SFA
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: arpar
Date: Sat 12 Oct 12:46
Better that the game is free on YouTube for fans than being behind a paywall on Viaplay. A lot more people can get YouTube than could receive Viaplay.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 12 Oct 16:41
BEIN Sports channel 1 English showing it!
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Topic Originator: PARanoid_Android
Date: Sat 12 Oct 19:15
Quote:
Rigger Al, Fri 11 Oct 20:54
im overseas and I see its advertised on Virgin TV
Was on Virgin3 in Ireland. The you tube stream was fine tho.
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