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Topic Originator: Big G Ball
Date: Mon 28 Oct 15:30
Why on earth would someone within the club not come out and offer some form of update as to why we are in such a mess and what will be done to rectify.
Has the manager been given a timeline to resolve the mess?
Are the players training regimes being reviewed in line with the constant injuries we incur?
Why do we sign players who can’t play on Astro and are constantly injured?
Why do we have local businessmen who sit back and say nothing. Are they not allowed to contribute or offer us any light at the end of a relegation tunnel as these are meant to be Pars loyal?
The offer of two for one to watch Tuesdays game is a weak effort to try and stave off the criticism that is being directed towards them. I for one won’t be back until we hear from somebody senior to try and convince us that they have a plan or until I see Mcpake replaced
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 28 Oct 15:44
Confidentiality and the position of the controlling shareholders may have something to do with the `silence`.
Re injuries, we only had one player unavailable on Saturday. You can`t be trying very hard to keep up to date with things at EEP if you didn`t know that.
Post Edited (Mon 28 Oct 15:45)
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Topic Originator: Big G Ball
Date: Mon 28 Oct 15:48
First time in a long long time we have been down to one injury so unfortunately one good week out of how many doesn’t suggest ur right mr clap happy
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 28 Oct 15:50
The injuries were off the scale last season. This season, they`ve been pretty normal given the size of our squad.
Plenty of issues to be annoyed at just now, but the injury situation isn`t currently one of them.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 28 Oct 20:30
I’m certainly one for more open communication from the board but they will not be in a place to talk about the situation with GMBH & any potential future investment. That’s a legal tightrope and you wouldn’t want to put anyone on the spot that’s potentially not ready to be there.
I don’t know what to say about the injuries other than I think there was only one out for Saturday there 🤔 don’t know what point you’re trying to make or what you’re looking for?
I think the board realised a couple of months back that Livi at home on a Tuesday night wasn’t likely to be a big attendance number so have decided to try and put on some kind of promotion to encourage more bums on seats again, I don’t really see what you’re trying to say?
COYP
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 28 Oct 20:36
The board don’t care now as they want to sell and that’s it!
The problem they have as we are ***** and the worth of the club will go down if we are relegated…So they have a choice to make…Keep McPake and we just stay up or it’s down to div 1…. then take a loss and get some money back and move on… leaving an utter shitshow for the new owners to take on… 🤷🤷🤷
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: pars no1
Date: Mon 28 Oct 20:36
We are going through a sale of the club investors. They have a non disclosure agreement with potential buyers. Why on earth would they risk making silly comments now? Come on you’re not that silly surely.
They will not sack a manager during a takeover and payout their funds when someone else can do it. They want out and we just need to wait until this is sorted. Like it or not that’s the way it is.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 28 Oct 20:50
Quote:
pars no1, Mon 28 Oct 20:36
We are going through a sale of the club investors. They have a non disclosure agreement with potential buyers. Why on earth would they risk making silly comments now? Come on you’re not that silly surely.
They will not sack a manager during a takeover and payout their funds when someone else can do it. They want out and we just need to wait until this is sorted. Like it or not that’s the way it is.
I agree that they won’t say anything until they can make an easy clear statement.
I do disagree that they won’t change management. If it gets bad enough, they’ll move him on.
COYP
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Topic Originator: dafc
Date: Mon 28 Oct 21:13
There’s nothing good to really say, any statement will likely only make
Matters worse on pitch.
The manager hopefully is going no where, we can’t really afford to pay up contacts and hire new coaching staff, once club sold new owners might have new ideas.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 28 Oct 22:04
So if I wanted to take the club over at this time for 2.5 million there would be a lot of work to do….wait till the end of the season and all the deadwood has gone including wages etc but we could be relegated….if so offer 1million as a take it or leave it…
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 28 Oct 22:24
"The board don’t care now as they want to sell and that’s it!"
yeah dont care... the value at the club is significantly higher in our existing league rather than being relegated so sure they will care.
Do you want James McPake telling us that he still has daily updates with Meggle etc?
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 28 Oct 22:29
We must have signed half a dozen players since the owners announced they planned to sell - that`s how much they don`t care.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 28 Oct 23:20
In reality we may be stuck with McPake for a while - old board don’t want a big outlay before selling up as wont get money back and new board may not want a big outlay after just buying club and may give him time……
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 28 Oct 23:59
"In reality we may be stuck with McPake for a while - old board don’t want a big outlay before selling up as wont get money back and new board may not want a big outlay after just buying club and may give him time……"
If costs of "getting rid" is the issue then we would be in bargain bin territory recruiting a replacement so Peter Grant/Yogi hughes territory. Perhaps even Wotherspoon/Kane as player manager. *SHUDDER*
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Tue 29 Oct 02:01
This is very close to my thoughts on this, Playup Pompey. If the current board was forced to decide to sack McPake, a bargain-basement replacement would be a logical option. Therefore, a quick sale of the club would likely be the best option for fans.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 29 Oct 08:26
Wee eck are you telling me bene and fogarty were fit?
I severely doubt they were other wise any manager with half a brain would have played them ahead of Hamilton.
For the inevitable Hamilton has played CB before, apart from last season when we had no one else available what level has Hamilton actually played CB at? Hearts reserves or youth?
If bene if fit and can’t get a game maybe it’s time for a player manager gig. McCabe managed it. Even if we go the losing we haven’t lost anything.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 29 Oct 08:39
So Hammy has joined your long list of scapegoats? I can`t keep up with you. Now you`re citing the guy in charge of the only team below is in the league as a good example of a player/manager. Your logic eludes me I`m afraid.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Tue 29 Oct 08:46
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 29 Oct 08:39
So Hammy has joined your long list of scapegoats? I can`t keep up with you. Now you`re citing the guy in charge of the only team below is in the league as a good example of a player/manager. Your logic eludes me I`m afraid.
If bene or foggarty were fit which if they are on the bench suggested they were then surely you play at least one of them ahead of Hamilton and play him in midfield?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 29 Oct 09:07
To be fair (waste of time) Hamilton is usually pretty reliable at CH.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Tue 29 Oct 09:31
Quote:
da_no_1, Tue 29 Oct 09:07
To be fair (waste of time) Hamilton is usually pretty reliable at CH.
I could get abuse here but I think he is a better CH than a midfielder personally.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Tue 29 Oct 09:35
For what it`s worth Hamilton is doing well at CB, specially for his height. Leaves it all on the pitch too.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 29 Oct 09:39
I agree with you, DJAS.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 29 Oct 09:39
Quote:
DJAS, Tue 29 Oct 09:31
Quote:
da_no_1, Tue 29 Oct 09:07
To be fair (waste of time) Hamilton is usually pretty reliable at CH.
I could get abuse here but I think he is a better CH than a midfielder personally.
I wouldn’t really disagree. He’s played better at CH than midfield recently. He’s definitely more defensively minded. I wouldn’t want to rely on him to defend against a big physical striker, he’s too wee and gets pushed off the ball but there’s no doubt he’s got something to offer.
I wonder if he could be handy as a sweeper or right in front of the 2 CH 🤷🏻♂️ don’t know how that fits into the rest of the team tho
COYP
Post Edited (Tue 29 Oct 09:40)
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Tue 29 Oct 09:46
Is it not better playing someone in their natural position or foggarty who has been a stand out since joining than trying to fit a square peg into a round hole ?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Tue 29 Oct 10:15
Would love to see this line up tonight..
Oluwayemi
Comrie
Fogarty
Young
Ngewyma
KRH
Hamilton
Otoo
Mebude
Sutherland
Kane
Can’t see this happening though. With the lack of goals, Sutherland deserves a chance but it will most likely be McCann or Todd in his place.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 29 Oct 10:16
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Tue 29 Oct 09:46
Is it not better playing someone in their natural position or foggarty who has been a stand out since joining than trying to fit a square peg into a round hole ?
I agree. There must be a reason he wasn`t playing.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Tue 29 Oct 10:27
If Fogarty is fit, he should play. If Otoo is in centre midfield, I`ve no issue with Hamilton playing centre back.
For me, it`s Fogarty plus whoever he plays best with.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Tue 29 Oct 10:36
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Tue 29 Oct 09:46
Is it not better playing someone in their natural position or foggarty who has been a stand out since joining than trying to fit a square peg into a round hole ?
Definitely.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: jojo
Date: Tue 29 Oct 12:14
Who will be tonight’s mystery injury that misses game
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 29 Oct 12:38
What are you suggesting? That McPake should phone Martindale and tell him what his team is tonight?
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Tue 29 Oct 13:38
I wasn’t at the Falkirk game but the team selection wasn’t particularly surprising. (A friend of mine who is a Bairn and was at the game said that he thought we’d got a lot better since the first meeting, for what that’s worth).
Firstly, it’s not unreasonable to avoid making too many changes to a defence that had looked quite solid in its last game. Ngwenya is first choice left back and he had done well after coming on last week, as had Otoo when pushed into midfield, so keep them there. Fogarty had lost his place due to being away on international duty and maybe was rested against Morton as he’d had a couple of tough games in quick succession.
Then you’ve got the enforced change due to Kane’s injury. (I think he’s played 11 out of 16). McCann is the obvious replacement. (Although there may be the hint that it is better to have Kane fit for the Livi game than risk him for the Falkirk match)
And you’ve the idea that you might be a little bit more defensive against a team that’s flying and top of the division. Giving McPake’s natural caution perhaps he should have gone with 5 at the back?
Hamilton is an interesting one – two years ago, he seemed to be the first one to give way when McPake wanted to change things – not quite a centre-back, not quite a midfielder, Now he is captain and seemingly a fixture. I agree, his best position might be as sweeper, ideal for those tough European away legs.
Bene has lost a bit of pace, and may be more susceptible to injury – organisationally he is good, but is he worth the risk?
McPake’s philosophy seems to be to keep things tight to begin with, and only take risks later. Hence the likes of Cooper, Mebude and Sutherland appear to be seen more as impact players. Of course, he could go all Calderwood and throw caution to the wind. It might be fun for 20 minutes or so.
Is there any evidence that managers get more cautious as they get older? McPake is probably finding it quite hard at the moment – things aren’t quite going the way he wants – a goal here and a break there and we’d have a lot more points. And to consider the substantive point, the off-field situation will be unsettling – the fear will be that one bad decision will could lead to ultimate dismissal, which must be debilitating (and of course, he could go on a winning streak and still get booted anyway if and when new owners come in). If he does throw caution to the wind it may be seen as his last throw of the dice. He has handicapped himself with poor recruitment (despite having to operate under constraints) but a new manager won’t be able to change that easily.
Post Edited (Tue 29 Oct 13:38)
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Tue 29 Oct 13:39
To address the original point:
I imagine the board is currently split between DAFC Fussball and the local directors – how that works in practice I’ve no idea, but I’m not sure what you can expect them to say. In the meantime, there is allegedly interest from several parties, but the first questions I’d be asking are “why do you want to spaff £2m on a middling to poor tier 2 club in Scotland? What’s your game?”
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Tue 29 Oct 13:41
Eck , he can keep his team selection as secret as he wants . It`s the tactics he sends the team out with that are so predictable . We are so easy to play against , and so slow on the attack , that I reckon I could send a team out to play against a team with McPake`s tactics .
We need to start having a go at teams , especially at eep . Even if we lose , at least most fans would be happier that we had at least had a go , instead of that defensive crap we`ve been watching for months and months on end .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 29 Oct 13:55
I didn`t think we were too defensive at Falkirk, even in the first half. We were undone by a break of the ball for the first goal and horrific defensive play for the second. Overall we were quite competitive which is borne out by the stats.
Slow starts in games, especially at home, are a puzzle to me but I`m not sure that is how McPake wants us to play. Sometimes he seems as puzzled by them as the fans. That is the worry for me - he doesn`t seem to know why they happen!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 29 Oct 15:02
Quote:
Parsweep, Tue 29 Oct 13:41
Eck , he can keep his team selection as secret as he wants . It`s the tactics he sends the team out with that are so predictable . We are so easy to play against , and so slow on the attack , that I reckon I could send a team out to play against a team with McPake`s tactics .
We need to start having a go at teams , especially at eep . Even if we lose , at least most fans would be happier that we had at least had a go , instead of that defensive crap we`ve been watching for months and months on end .
Agree with that. We need to get after teams at home and not allow them to settle and make passes
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Tue 29 Oct 15:02)
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Tue 29 Oct 15:16
Quote:
RossF, Tue 29 Oct 10:15
Would love to see this line up tonight..
Oluwayemi
Comrie
Fogarty
Young
Ngewyma
KRH
Hamilton
Otoo
Mebude
Sutherland
Kane
Can’t see this happening though. With the lack of goals, Sutherland deserves a chance but it will most likely be McCann or Todd in his place.
Spot on with that team. Little chance McPake will go with it though.
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