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Topic Originator: Kba990309
Date: Fri 15 Nov 11:17
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Fri 15 Nov 11:09
No TV channels showing it tonight?
Meanwhile full England coverage including the women`s team!
Ingerland game on stv, bugs the poo out me 😡
Keith allan
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Fri 15 Nov 11:28
It`s live - for free - on YouTube.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Fri 15 Nov 11:29
and rights are sold from UEFA not something SFA control
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 15 Nov 11:31
From BBC Sport:-
Scotland`s concluding Nations League matches against Croatia and Poland will again to be broadcast on YouTube, rather than on television.
Scandinavian broadcaster Viaplay owns the rights to show the games but announced in June 2023 it is scaling back its operations in the UK.
The company will still produce coverage of the matches, but they will be shown on the Scottish FA`s YouTube channel dedicated to the national side.
It follows the same arrangement as the matches in October with the loss to Croatia and draw with Portugal attracting more than 1.5m views combined on YouTube.
Steve Clarke`s side host Croatia at Hampden on Friday before finishing their campaign away to Poland on Monday (both 19:45 GMT).
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Topic Originator: adj27
Date: Fri 15 Nov 11:38
Much prefer it being free to view on YouTube rather than one of the subscription channels.
Andy
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Topic Originator: Kba990309
Date: Fri 15 Nov 12:00
Cheers guys
Keith allan
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Fri 15 Nov 12:47
Wrong thread.
The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.
Post Edited (Fri 15 Nov 12:48)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 15 Nov 18:57
Scotland: Gordon, Ralston, Hanley, Souttar, Robertson, Gilmour, McLean, Christie, Doak, McTominay, Conway.
Substitutes: Slicker, McCrorie, McGinn, Dykes, Shankland, Taylor, Barron, Porteous, McKenna, Armstrong, Gauld, Devlin.
Croatia: Kotarski, Jakic, Sutalo, Caleta-Car, Gvardiol, Kovacic, Modric, L Sucic, P Sucic, Baturina, Kramaric.
Substitutes: Labrovic, Ivusic, Pongracic, Moro, Pasalic, Vlasic, Perisic, Pasalic, Orsic, Sosa, Pjaca, Matanovic.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Fri 15 Nov 19:50
Stream quality is awful compared to the last one on youtube which was actually pretty impressive
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Fri 15 Nov 20:02
Croatia look more like the home team. Scotland can hardly get a hold of the ball.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Fri 15 Nov 20:05
One of the most one sided games I have ever seen so far. A Croatia goal seems inevitable here ☹️
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Fri 15 Nov 20:06
It doesn`t help that we keep giving the ball away cheaply
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Fri 15 Nov 20:09
its in BEIN Sports 5 if you have it
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Fri 15 Nov 20:13
Cheers mate.
Got it sorted. Miserable me had then kids` ipad set at 360p to be a tight bottom and skimp on data useage when they were on 4G - oops!
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
Post Edited (Fri 15 Nov 20:13)
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Fri 15 Nov 20:20
Doak is a joy to watch... Doesn`t come off every time, but finally a player who isn`t afraid to have a go...
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 15 Nov 20:31
Croatia down to ten
Mon Scotland 🏴!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Fri 15 Nov 20:34
Doak is turning back far too much in this game.
Post Edited (Fri 15 Nov 20:35)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 15 Nov 21:15
Portugal 1-0 Poland
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Fri 15 Nov 21:21
Scotland very wasteful with the chances we`ve created.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Fri 15 Nov 21:21
Our best chances have fallen to Gilmour, who couldn`t hit a barn door from 2 yards.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Fri 15 Nov 21:29
Portugal 4-0 up...
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 15 Nov 21:34
Mon Scotland and John McGinn!!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 15 Nov 21:35
Was Dykes offside? Apparently not!
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Fri 15 Nov 21:35
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 15 Nov 21:35
Was Dykes offside? Apparently not!
thought that also
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 15 Nov 21:42
Doak looks an extremely promising player at 19. He’s gave Gvardiol a torrid time. If he adds real end product to his game he’ll be one of the best attacking midfielders in Europe I think.
COYP
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Fri 15 Nov 21:44
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 15 Nov 21:35
Was Dykes offside? Apparently not!
Not interfering with anything to do with the goal.......
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 15 Nov 21:46
That must have been the decision. I worried that he might have stopped the keeper getting across to the shot.
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Fri 15 Nov 23:36
Quote:
TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Fri 15 Nov 19:50
Stream quality is awful compared to the last one on youtube which was actually pretty impressive
Was there with the kids so wouldn`t know. Unlike the last time where, after I ducked out at half time, came back to a screen that looked like it had been animated by kids with crayons. Big TV wasn`t enough for the youngest, he also wanted to watch it on his phone thus halving our bandwidth.
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The universe is ruled by chance and indifference
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 15 Nov 23:51
Stream was perfect for me but I do have a lot of bandwidth- with us watching TV through it plus all the gaming I need it 🤷🏻♂️
COYP
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz
Date: Sat 16 Nov 00:50
Quote:
NMCmassive, Fri 15 Nov 23:51
Stream was perfect for me but I do have a lot of bandwidth- with us watching TV through it plus all the gaming I need it 🤷🏻♂️
bandwidth Champ 💪
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Sat 16 Nov 08:11
Regarding Gilmour’s lack of shooting prowess, for someone who is normally so cool on the ball he does snatch rather hastily at chances . Calm doon son!
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 16 Nov 09:49
After an extremely shaky start we got into the game, the sending off then helped further. One thing I was really impressed by was the Croatian players ability to find space in our box. We managed to stop them getting many shots away but the fact they had 4 players in the box knocking it between each other was really impressive, while we are often rushed.
Some of Gilmours forward passing last night was beautiful, perfect weight and direction, helped obviously by the extra space he found post sending off.
I was sent a highlights reel this morning of Ben Doak - Gvardiol will be having nightmares about playing him in future!
https://www.threads.net/@walk_on97/post/DCaHk_ViSxZ?xmt=AQGzejR-B_H7sVx9o1rDfi0731D3tL8K4TD6FF8-OYVduw
Great to get a positive result after such a bad run.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 16 Nov 11:12
Once Ben doak started taking on guardiol instead of passing inside or being blocked by Ralston on the under lap you could sense inside the stadium that it was only a matter of time until we grabbed a goal.
Not the best performances but when you`re without a win in 16 you take what you can get. I thought modric at 38 showed the class he possesses.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 16 Nov 21:56
Quote:
Parsfangaz, Sat 16 Nov 00:50
Quote:
NMCmassive, Fri 15 Nov 23:51
Stream was perfect for me but I do have a lot of bandwidth- with us watching TV through it plus all the gaming I need it 🤷🏻♂️
bandwidth Champ 💪
No really, just happy with my choice
How about you? 😂
COYP
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Mon 18 Nov 17:37
Poland v Alba tonight .. Is it on youtube again ?
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 18 Nov 18:39
John McGinn and Lyndon Dykes are back for Scotland, with Ryan Christie and Tommy Conway the players to make way.
Goalkeeper Craig Gordon has recovered from a bug to win his 79th cap.
After all the teasing, Ben Doak keeps his place...
Scotland XI: Gordon, Ralston, Souttar, Hanley, Robertson, Gilmour, McLean, Doak, McTominay, McGinn, Dykes.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Mon 18 Nov 18:57
Quote:
Buspasspar, Mon 18 Nov 17:37
Poland v Alba tonight .. Is it on youtube again ?
on BEIN sports also
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 18 Nov 18:57
Not a surprise that the rumours on X and Facebook about Doak turned out to be utter b*llocks.
Feel sorry for Conway - not much service the other night then dropped for a guy thats yet to score all season in a league below him - how are these guys ever meant to prove their worth without being given a proper run in the team?
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Mon 18 Nov 18:58
Its sad that were having to scrap around to find where to watch Scotland games where all other nations are able to watch
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 18 Nov 18:59
Quote:
Rigger Al, Mon 18 Nov 18:58
Its sad that were having to scrap around to find where to watch Scotland games where all other nations are able to watch
Isn`t it on YouTube?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 18 Nov 19:00
Full sides and benches:-
Poland: Skorupski, Piatowski, Walukiewicz, Kiwior, Kaminski, Szymanski, Moder, Zielinski, Zalewski, Buksa, Swiderski.
Substitutes: Bulka, Dragowski, Wieteska, Gurgul, Slisz, Urbanski, Bogusz, Puchacz, Kozubal, Kapustka, Marczuk, Piatek.
Scotland: Gordon, Ralston, Souttar, Hanley, Robertson, Gilmour, McLean, Doak, McTominay, McGinn, Dykes.
Substitutes: Slicker, McCrorie, Shankland, Christie, Hendry, Barron, Taylor, McKenna, Armstrong, Conway, Gauld, Devlin.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Mon 18 Nov 19:00
Quote:
jake89, Mon 18 Nov 18:59
Quote:
Rigger Al, Mon 18 Nov 18:58
Its sad that were having to scrap around to find where to watch Scotland games where all other nations are able to watch
Isn`t it on YouTube?
finding it on VIrgin media also
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Mon 18 Nov 19:03
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 18 Nov 18:57
Not a surprise that the rumours on X and Facebook about Doak turned out to be utter b*llocks.
Feel sorry for Conway - not much service the other night then dropped for a guy thats yet to score all season in a league below him - how are these guys ever meant to prove their worth without being given a proper run in the team?
This game is exactly where you should see Dykes strengths. Strong, win headers, occupy the centre halves and make space for the better players around him.
Conway isn`t ready for that role yet. But he will come on and get his chance again.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 18 Nov 19:27
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 18 Nov 18:57
Not a surprise that the rumours on X and Facebook about Doak turned out to be utter b*llocks.
Feel sorry for Conway - not much service the other night then dropped for a guy thats yet to score all season in a league below him - how are these guys ever meant to prove their worth without being given a proper run in the team?
I understand what you’re saying but I don’t really agree.
Conway didn’t really do enough against Croatia. He’s still one for the future though and even though Dykes has had his injury troubles this season, he’s proven himself worthy in the past. We really missed him at the Euros.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Mon 18 Nov 19:50
Get in! McGinn again
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 18 Nov 19:50
Fantastic goal!!’
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Mon 18 Nov 19:50
Great Goal !!
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Mon 18 Nov 20:13
Can`t believe McKenna isn`t starting ahead of Hanley
Defence is unbalanced with a right footer on the left of central defence
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Mon 18 Nov 20:18
After the last game against Poland, Clarke wouldve had to double down that he had faith in both Hanley and Ralston...
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 18 Nov 20:22
Croatia 0-1 Portugal
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Mon 18 Nov 20:28
as it stands we need 1 more goal
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 18 Nov 20:31
It’s been an enjoyable game and Scotland have done well.
Finally, Clarke has let the handbrake off.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Mon 18 Nov 20:32
Cannot remember us being this good away from home, for a long time. Outstanding
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Mon 18 Nov 20:36
Ralston really is playing well, especially considering how exposed he is with Doak not tracking runners, but can`t help feel they have a goal in them. But watching Doak go forward is almost worth it... Forward play has been a joy and playing more like the team that went on that great run
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 18 Nov 20:37
Quote:
Rigger Al, Mon 18 Nov 20:28
as it stands we need 1 more goal
Or Portugal to get one more.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 18 Nov 20:40
Quote:
d3monstrate, Mon 18 Nov 20:36
Ralston really is playing well, especially considering how exposed he is with Doak not tracking runners, but can`t help feel they have a goal in them. But watching Doak go forward is almost worth it... Forward play has been a joy and playing more like the team that went on that great run
How refreshing is it to see a right sided winger playing on the right and trying to get to the bye line ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Mon 18 Nov 20:44
Madness, it will never catch on...
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Mon 18 Nov 20:44
Quote:
PARrot, Mon 18 Nov 20:37
Quote:
Rigger Al, Mon 18 Nov 20:28
as it stands we need 1 more goal
Or Portugal to get one more.
remember Holland we were 1 goal away
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 18 Nov 20:47
We`re living a bit dangerously but the encouraging thing is that Poland look vulnerable at the back too. McTominay really is a class player,
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Mon 18 Nov 20:52
This game should be about 5-5
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Mon 18 Nov 20:54
what a game ,not good for the heart
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 18 Nov 21:01
Ocht 1-1
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Mon 18 Nov 21:03
Was an absolute peach... but has been coming...
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 18 Nov 21:03
Brilliant strike.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 18 Nov 21:14
Croatia 1-1 Portugal
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Mon 18 Nov 21:18
San Marino take the lead in Liechtenstein to go into the promotion place in D1!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 18 Nov 21:35
Goallllllll
Poland 1-2 Scotland
Robertson!!!!!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Mon 18 Nov 21:37
One of the most incredible games I`ve ever watched.
Hope the last minute or so is boring.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 18 Nov 21:38
Full time!!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Mon 18 Nov 21:39
Fvcccccv yassessd
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Mon 18 Nov 21:40
WOW
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 18 Nov 21:40
7 points from that group isn`t too shabby.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Mon 18 Nov 21:43
Excellent result - had faith we would win our last two and finally got the luck we deserve! It’s gutting that Portugal played their 2nd string and failed to win but we done our job and impressed in a difficult group. Great to see Robertson get the winner, who I thought was wasteful today but showed up when it really mattered! Centre backs were excellent too.
On another note, what a result from San Marino! Promoted from their group after beating Liechtenstein 3-1 away from home!
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Mon 18 Nov 21:51
What happens with finishing third? We just stay in Group A?
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Mon 18 Nov 21:55
Quote:
Berry, Mon 18 Nov 21:51
What happens with finishing third? We just stay in Group A?
Naw. Play off, with a second placed team from one of the Group 2 teams. Home and away in March
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 18 Nov 21:56
I hope Clarke has more confidence in his players going forward ? He is way too cautious, too often
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Mon 18 Nov 21:58
Usually us that get the sucker punch but it was great to see that one go in. Great win.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Mon 18 Nov 22:00
Seemed to play with the shackles off tonight and for the best part, looked dangerous. Ran out of legs a bit in the second half and I thought Poland deserved the equaliser, it what an end, what a strength of character, delighted 🏴
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 18 Nov 22:21
Quote:
Buster_Brown, Mon 18 Nov 22:00
Seemed to play with the shackles off tonight and for the best part, looked dangerous. Ran out of legs a bit in the second half and I thought Poland deserved the equaliser, it what an end, what a strength of character, delighted 🏴
This. Not many teams can go the distance in a game like that and find enough to win it. I`d say Poland settled for a draw with a few minutes left knowing that guaranteed 3rd place. We needed another goal and for once we got it.
The cross from Soutar was absolute perfection and Robertson finished it brilliantly, ironically I`d been giving him pelters for his crossing and set pieces.
7 points from 3 games is decent and we could easily have had at least a couple of extra points in the first 3 fixtures.
Promising.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 18 Nov 22:35
I agree about Robertson who had an off game and reminds me of Lewis McCann who came up trumps in the end despite playing *****.
It was a long shot us getting the results we wanted but at least we won and did our part.
Ben Doak looks like a game changer for us in future games and a really exciting winger
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 18 Nov 22:41
Aw FFS can we not just have one thread that doesn`t end up whining about Lewis McCann min!
Jesus wept
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Mon 18 Nov 22:41)
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Mon 18 Nov 23:15
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Mon 18 Nov 22:35
I agree about Robertson who had an off game and reminds me of Lewis McCann who came up trumps in the end despite playing *****.
It was a long shot us getting the results we wanted but at least we won and did our part.
Ben Doak looks like a game changer for us in future games and a really exciting winger
Robertson was definitely not ****, behave!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 18 Nov 23:24
His corners and crossing were awful.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Mon 18 Nov 23:28
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 18 Nov 23:24
His corners and crossing were awful.
Defensively he was very good and he kept possession in tight situations. Not his best performance, but in the top 5 on the park tonight easily!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 18 Nov 23:49
That was surreal. Scotland had more possession, more shots on target and more corners - away from home against a team 20 places above us in the FIFA rankings! For the winning goal to come in added time with a header from our left back from a cross by a centre back was the icing on the cake. Let`s hope it counts for something!
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Tue 19 Nov 00:05
Behave yourselves guys, Robertson was inspirational. And coming up with the winner was magical.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Tue 19 Nov 01:25
Great result tonight.
Kept possession really well after the early goal which was great to see,
midfield were so comfortable on the ball under pressure and great we now have Doak in there as an outball to run at teams and stretch them.
Hickey and Ferguson should be back soon too so thats a big plus. Just a decent centre
forward away from having a right good team, and thats not a dig at Dykes as he`s the best we have for that role currently in the system Clarke plays.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Tue 19 Nov 08:40
Quote:
TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Tue 19 Nov 01:25
Hickey and Ferguson should be back soon too so thats a big plus.
I THINK, but don’t quote me on it TAFKA, that Hickey is out for the season again mate. Other than MOTD and WBA games, I don’t really follow English football, but there was definitely an interview with Thomas Franks where he said that Hickey had suffered a set back in his recovery, it wasn’t good and that it looked to be season ending sadly. Sure it was about September I saw it. I haven’t seen or heard anything since.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Tue 19 Nov 08:42
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 18 Nov 23:24
His corners and crossing were awful.
Agree. He was good otherwise but it killed our threat a few times.
It will be interesting to see what happens when Tierney is back. With Clarke now playing a back 4 he might need to play in front of Robertson, or as an out and out centre half, rather than the left of a back 3.
In time is it worth trying McTominay in the Dykes role? It seems less mental than playing him at centre half...we seem to have lots of very good midfielders, and a couple coming through so might allow us to play more of our better players.
Suddenly there are lots of options!
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Tue 19 Nov 10:21
Good game and good performance.Still thought we conceded a lot of chances and if Lewandowski was there he would have buried one or two. We looked more composed on the ball in tight areas than we have previously and played some good stuff though.I was pleased that we continued to show attacking intent after taking the lead and we`re unlucky not to add to it in the 1st half especially.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 19 Nov 10:38
There are some weird highlights out there! One set from Footballduck(?) looked like they were edited with garden shears and those from Inside Football looked like they were filmed by a guy in the crowd using his phone and showed the final whistle before the winning goal! There are decent ones on Youtube based on last night`s coverage though.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Tue 19 Nov 11:14
Quote:
Jeffery, Tue 19 Nov 08:42
It will be interesting to see what happens when Tierney is back. With Clarke now playing a back 4 he might need to play in front of Robertson, or as an out and out centre half, rather than the left of a back 3.
I’m sure “I’ll deal with it when it comes to it” will be in Clarke’s mind, however I wonder if the answer is Strachan’s solution of playing KT in at Right Back. Keeps a back 4, with Hickey not set to return any time soon then is KT a better option in there to Ralston or Devlin…,possibly.
I think KT needs to be playing himself before any decision is made. Someone who follows it better than me will know, but is he injured still or now just out of favour at Arsenal??
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Tue 19 Nov 12:02
Really entertaining game, ball retention seemed to play second fiddle to getting up the park which was great. Mcgregor really isn`t missed and I hope we can find a way to fit Ferguson in there without stifling him. It really has shown the insanity of how he set the team up at the Euros.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Tue 19 Nov 12:10
Robertson often doesn`t put in good crosses in a Scotland jersey.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 19 Nov 12:29
2 wins against teams much further up the rankings than us, plus a draw v 7th place.
We must have jumped a fair bit in the FIFA rankings. We were 51st.
Update is 22 Nov, I think.
Or is it 28th Nov. Last update was 22nd Oct, so the Portugal game has been included.
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Post Edited (Tue 19 Nov 12:31)
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Tue 19 Nov 13:25
Absolutely fantastic game , must be one of our most attacking away displays, if only the same type of entertainment at EEP.
Still playoffs to come , no one will want to draw Scotland now.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Tue 19 Nov 18:12
Just looking at the highlights again. I`m sorry to admit a slight amount of perverse pleasure in the fact that the Polish player who missed a couple of sitters, strongly resembles Kyle Turner.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Tue 19 Nov 18:22
I thought the exact same last night Paralex :)
On a side note the under 19s are in action against France on the SFA youtube channel at 7.30pm tonight.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 19 Nov 23:40
So we`re definitely in Pot 3 for the World Cup draw after both Czech Republic and Slovakia won tonight.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 19 Nov 23:54
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 19 Nov 23:40
So we`re definitely in Pot 3 for the World Cup draw after both Czech Republic and Slovakia won tonight.
Yeah. We were in Pot 3 for the last qualifying group. That worked out OK 👍
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Wed 20 Nov 00:35
What benefit did we get, if any, by winning last night?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 20 Nov 01:00
Didn`t it mean we`re in the play-offs next March for the possibility of staying in Group A of the Nations League?
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Wed 20 Nov 01:02
Quote:
Paralex, Wed 20 Nov 00:35
What benefit did we get, if any, by winning last night?
Ending the campaign on a high 😊
Looking at pot 2, there`s no really any teams that stands out as, hope we don`t get them. Bring em on.
Post Edited (Wed 20 Nov 01:02)
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Wed 20 Nov 01:09
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 20 Nov 01:00
Didn`t it mean we`re in the play-offs next March for the possibility of staying in Group A of the Nations League?
Yeah. We`re seeded and playing one of Ukraine, Greece, Turkey or Austria.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Wed 20 Nov 03:37
Yeah. We`re seeded and playing one of Ukraine, Greece, Turkey or Austria.
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They are all difficult but beatable.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Wed 20 Nov 05:43
It’s ridiculous that we are pot 3 when we were competing against more superior teams in Group A. Slovakia were in Group C, which resulted in them playing much weaker teams and becoming a pot 2 team for the World Cup draw and having a playoff spot for the World Cup already. San Marino could well end up in the playoffs for the World Cup because they won their group! It seems like we’re the only team that has been punished purely for trying to better ourselves and playing tougher opponents. Before the nations league took place, I thought being a group A team would guarantee us a playoff spot and at least be pot 2. Portugal taking a weakened team to Croatia has cost us dearly.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Wed 20 Nov 06:55
Losing the 2 late goals in the first two games cost us dearly, not Portugal taking a weakened team...
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 20 Nov 07:32
When the Nations League started I thought there was a chance a middle of the road team like ourselves could end up being victims of our own success. It`s good to be in the top section but it does mean the probability of losing more games, dropping down the rankings, lower qualification seedings and no chance of that fall-back play off place.
Wales were lucky last time around. They stank the top tier out yet still got a play off as every other team qualified through the normal process meaning they had to get it. At least they got pumped 😂
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 20 Nov 08:14
Quote:
da_no_1, Wed 20 Nov 07:32
When the Nations League started I thought there was a chance a middle of the road team like ourselves could end up being victims of our own success. It`s good to be in the top section but it does mean the probability of losing more games, dropping down the rankings, lower qualification seedings and no chance of that fall-back play off place.
Wales were lucky last time around. They stank the top tier out yet still got a play off as every other team qualified through the normal process meaning they had to get it. At least they got pumped 😂
There must be a fair chance of Scotland drawing Wales on Friday, in the Nations League home and away playoffs, scheduled for next March. Win that and we stay in Group A....
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Wed 20 Nov 08:15
For the Euros it works out a lot better to be in A than the World Cup.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Wed 20 Nov 08:34
Quote:
GG Riva, Wed 20 Nov 08:14
Quote:
da_no_1, Wed 20 Nov 07:32
When the Nations League started I thought there was a chance a middle of the road team like ourselves could end up being victims of our own success. It`s good to be in the top section but it does mean the probability of losing more games, dropping down the rankings, lower qualification seedings and no chance of that fall-back play off place.
Wales were lucky last time around. They stank the top tier out yet still got a play off as every other team qualified through the normal process meaning they had to get it. At least they got pumped 😂
There must be a fair chance of Scotland drawing Wales on Friday, in the Nations League home and away playoffs, scheduled for next March. Win that and we stay in Group A....
There would have been except that Wales won their group so have automatic promotion to group A
A fantastic achievement for Bellamy who has done really well since taking over and developing a really good team spirit within that group of players
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Wed 20 Nov 09:42
I caught the 2nd half of the Wales game last night and they played some good stuff.
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Wed 20 Nov 09:59
Quote:
RossF, Wed 20 Nov 05:43
It’s ridiculous that we are pot 3 when we were competing against more superior teams in Group A. Slovakia were in Group C, which resulted in them playing much weaker teams and becoming a pot 2 team for the World Cup draw and having a playoff spot for the World Cup already. San Marino could well end up in the playoffs for the World Cup because they won their group! It seems like we’re the only team that has been punished purely for trying to better ourselves and playing tougher opponents. Before the nations league took place, I thought being a group A team would guarantee us a playoff spot and at least be pot 2. Portugal taking a weakened team to Croatia has cost us dearly.
It does seem a bit off with us competing for Pot 1 one minute but ending up in 3. What happened to 2?
At the start of Monday`s game we needed us and Portugal to win with a 3 goal swing. But, when we were 1-1 and Portugal were winning I`m sure they said that 2-1 for us would now be enough due to goals scored.
So, if that`s true, Croatia`s equaliser bumped us down two pots.
Edit: just remembered. It wouldn't have been on goals scored, that would have been level. It would have been on, I think, the ninth tie-breaker criterion, whatever that might have been.
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The universe is ruled by chance and indifference
Post Edited (Wed 20 Nov 11:23)
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Wed 20 Nov 11:53
although we are pot 3 our playoff game in march means we will be in a 4 team pot for WCQ. Due to restrcitions etc we are limited who we can play. This is the view from the brilliant team behind the "scotlands coefficient" X page.
LOTS of travel excitement to be had from pot 4 so will start getting ready to go to cyprus for the 3rd time in 5 years.
Post Edited (Wed 20 Nov 11:53)
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Wed 20 Nov 12:46
Even with some of the best informed minds on dafc.net, there is still some residual confusion regarding pots and groups, goals scored, goals against, World Cup and Euros standings. The ordinary punter would need a masters degree on EUFA rules and regulations to get their head round all of the permutations, and the average Scotland supporter, although maybe more savvy than in previous generations, might just give up trying, which takes away some of the enjoyment, if you can`t register what your team`s playing for.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Wed 20 Nov 13:10
"Edit: just remembered. It wouldn`t have been on goals scored, that would have been level. It would have been on, I think, the ninth tie-breaker criterion, whatever that might have been."
being level on head to head/goals scored/GD etc we would have finished having won more away games ahead of Croatia
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Wed 20 Nov 14:52
So the lesson learned is instead of being in the top tier of the Nation`s League and playing the World`s best in friendlies, we should`ve stayed in Group C and played against duffers.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Wed 20 Nov 15:29
I think some criticism of the format is valid, especially around rankings and pots and whatnot. But the Nations League in general has been a massive upgrade on international friendlies, which are absolute garbage in the main.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Wed 20 Nov 15:39
I wonder what the attendances would have been in the past for friendlies with these countries. Are the attendances up for Scotland?
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Wed 20 Nov 15:43
All I know is that I was at the Ireland and Portugal matches and they were both magic.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 20 Nov 16:06
Quote:
alwaysaPar, Wed 20 Nov 08:34
Quote:
GG Riva, Wed 20 Nov 08:14
Quote:
da_no_1, Wed 20 Nov 07:32
When the Nations League started I thought there was a chance a middle of the road team like ourselves could end up being victims of our own success. It`s good to be in the top section but it does mean the probability of losing more games, dropping down the rankings, lower qualification seedings and no chance of that fall-back play off place.
Wales were lucky last time around. They stank the top tier out yet still got a play off as every other team qualified through the normal process meaning they had to get it. At least they got pumped 😂
There must be a fair chance of Scotland drawing Wales on Friday, in the Nations League home and away playoffs, scheduled for next March. Win that and we stay in Group A....
There would have been except that Wales won their group so have automatic promotion to group A
A fantastic achievement for Bellamy who has done really well since taking over and developing a really good team spirit within that group of players
Doh! I had it in my head they`d finished 2nd. I think I looked at the table before last night`s games. 😣
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Wed 20 Nov 16:15
Last 10 home game attendances:
Scotland v Republic of Ireland
24 September 2022
Attendance:48,853
Scotland v Cyprus
25 March 2023
Attendance: 48,195
Scotland v Spain
28 March 2023
Attendance: 47,976
Scotland v Georgia
20 June 2023
Attendance: 50,062
Scotland v England
12 September 2023
Attendance: 49,129
Scotland v Norway
19 November 2023
Attendance: 48,138
Scotland v Northern Ireland
26 March 2024
Attendance: 33,452
Scotland v Finland
7 June 2024
Attendance: 40,519
Scotland v Poland
5 September 2024
Attendance: 46,356
Scotland v Portugal
15 October 2024
Attendance: 49,057
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Wed 20 Nov 20:44
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Wed 20 Nov 16:15
Last 10 home game attendances:
Scotland v Republic of Ireland
24 September 2022
Attendance:48,853
Scotland v Cyprus
25 March 2023
Attendance: 48,195
Scotland v Spain
28 March 2023
Attendance: 47,976
Scotland v Georgia
20 June 2023
Attendance: 50,062
Scotland v England
12 September 2023
Attendance: 49,129
Scotland v Norway
19 November 2023
Attendance: 48,138
Scotland v Northern Ireland
26 March 2024
Attendance: 33,452
Scotland v Finland
7 June 2024
Attendance: 40,519
Scotland v Poland
5 September 2024
Attendance: 46,356
Scotland v Portugal
15 October 2024
Attendance: 49,057
Interesting that we have played some of Europe’s biggest nations, and yet our biggest attendance was against Georgia.
As a Hampden regular since the days of Craig Brown, I must admit to enjoying the Nations League more than friendlies. What I would say though, it’s not right what has happened with us being a Pot 3 team, so other adjustments should be made imho.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Wed 20 Nov 21:10
Georgia game will be the longest football match I’ll have ever been at 😂
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 20 Nov 21:53
Quote:
DJAS, Wed 20 Nov 21:10
Georgia game will be the longest football match I’ll have ever been at 😂
It was a long slog but worth the wait 😂
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 20 Nov 22:57
Unbelievable night. Glad I was there tho!
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Thu 21 Nov 09:12
georgia atendance will be down to the size of the away support they have. Rather than being in sections A1/2/3/4 with A5 closed for segregation the small band of fans they had were in J1/i6 in the Main stand so didn t have to close entire sections as segregation
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Thu 21 Nov 10:18
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Thu 21 Nov 09:12
georgia atendance will be down to the size of the away support they have. Rather than being in sections A1/2/3/4 with A5 closed for segregation the small band of fans they had were in J1/i6 in the Main stand so didn t have to close entire sections as segregation
Right enough. They were directly opposite me that night.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 21 Nov 13:45
Scotland are murder at friendlies as demonstrated with the pre Euro ones, the Nations league has been a massive upgrade. Also do not forget we got to Euro 2020 via the back door of the Nations League.
Fans only really need to know who is in their qualifying groups, fully understanding coefficient calculations isn’t essential to enjoyment of the game and the leagues have a clear objective of being at as high a level as you can be.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 21 Nov 13:53
Love the hatred for the nations league. I take it people forget it was the only reason we got back to Major tournaments after the long absence?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 21 Nov 14:20
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 21 Nov 13:53
Love the hatred for the nations league. I take it people forget it was the only reason we got back to Major tournaments after the long absence?
Hatred? Na. Bemusement at how they work out who qualifies. Yip.
We qualified throught the normal channels for the last Euros FWIW. Only used the playoffs once.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 21 Nov 15:52
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 21 Nov 14:20
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 21 Nov 13:53
Love the hatred for the nations league. I take it people forget it was the only reason we got back to Major tournaments after the long absence?
Hatred? Na. Bemusement at how they work out who qualifies. Yip.
We qualified throught the normal channels for the last Euros FWIW. Only used the playoffs once.
I agree about the bemusement of this years one - don’t know why they changed the 3rd place/2nd place stipulations to add in more play offs, which has now confused everyone, and then World Cup groups are smaller with less teams in them. Then you need to try work out who plays who in play offs etc post qualifiers etc etc its a bit of a mess.
Post Edited (Thu 21 Nov 15:53)
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 21 Nov 16:23
Thing is do you really need to work it out? Play off draw is tomorrow and World Cup draws in a couple weeks so should know pretty much everything you need to. Next international game isn’t even until next March
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 21 Nov 16:52
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 21 Nov 14:20
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 21 Nov 13:53
Love the hatred for the nations league. I take it people forget it was the only reason we got back to Major tournaments after the long absence?
Hatred? Na. Bemusement at how they work out who qualifies. Yip.
We qualified throught the normal channels for the last Euros FWIW. Only used the playoffs once.
Still used it for qualifying for the first which was my original point. It`s also got easier to qualify for these tournaments due to the inclusion of more teams in the finals stage. As someone who goes to Scotland games home and away I honestly couldn`t care how we qualify but it`s worth remembering the nations league helped us remove that rather large monkey off the back. Calling them glorified friendlies is a bit of a strange remark considering we were one of the first counties to benefit from it.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 21 Nov 17:05
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 21 Nov 16:52
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 21 Nov 14:20
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 21 Nov 13:53
Love the hatred for the nations league. I take it people forget it was the only reason we got back to Major tournaments after the long absence?
Hatred? Na. Bemusement at how they work out who qualifies. Yip.
We qualified throught the normal channels for the last Euros FWIW. Only used the playoffs once.
Still used it for qualifying for the first which was my original point. It`s also got easier to qualify for these tournaments due to the inclusion of more teams in the finals stage. As someone who goes to Scotland games home and away I honestly couldn`t care how we qualify but it`s worth remembering the nations league helped us remove that rather large monkey off the back. Calling them glorified friendlies is a bit of a strange remark considering we were one of the first counties to benefit from it.
I didn`t call them glorified friendlies.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 22 Nov 11:50
Scotland will meet Greece in a Nations League play-off in March.
Having finished third in their A group, Steve Clarke`s side must beat the B group runner-up to remain in the top tier of the competition.
The matches will be played on 20 and 23 March, with the second leg at Hampden.
Scotland finished with wins at home to Croatia and away to Poland to end their first campaign at A level on seven points.
Greece were second behind England on goal difference in Group B2, taking 15 points from their six matches, which included a 2-1 victory at Wembley.
The Greeks, managed by Ivan Jovanovic, are 42nd in the Fifa rankings, nine places above Scotland.
Scotland and Greece have only ever met in Euro 96 qualifying, with both winning their home matches 1-0.
Nations League A/B play-offs
Greece v Scotland
Turkey v Hungary
Ukraine v Belgium
Austria v Serbia
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Fri 22 Nov 12:44
I think avoiding Austria is a big plus.
Probably not much between the other three - albeit, all are well capable of beating us over 2 legs.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Fri 22 Nov 12:48
Greece looked lethal on the counter against England at Wembley, but not as hot last week.
We`ll need to be more secure at the back than we were against the Poles but going forward we looked very good and on that it`s a winnable tie.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Fri 22 Nov 13:38
6 wins in their last 7 games or 5 wins in 6 Nations league games. This will be a very tough tie
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Fri 22 Nov 14:19
"6 wins in their last 7 games or 5 wins in 6 Nations league games. This will be a very tough"
Yeah but that was against League B dross like Southern Ireland and England, not against League A heavyweights.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 23 Nov 07:47
Quote:
kelty_par, Fri 22 Nov 14:19
"6 wins in their last 7 games or 5 wins in 6 Nations league games. This will be a very tough"
Yeah but that was against League B dross like Southern Ireland and England, not against League A heavyweights.
🤣😂🤣
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 23 Nov 08:36
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Fri 22 Nov 12:44
I think avoiding Austria is a big plus.
Probably not much between the other three - albeit, all are well capable of beating us over 2 legs.
Happy to avoid Austria. They are a very good side
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 30 Nov 18:05
Quote:
Buster_Brown, Tue 19 Nov 11:14
Quote:
Jeffery, Tue 19 Nov 08:42
It will be interesting to see what happens when Tierney is back. With Clarke now playing a back 4 he might need to play in front of Robertson, or as an out and out centre half, rather than the left of a back 3.
I’m sure “I’ll deal with it when it comes to it” will be in Clarke’s mind, however I wonder if the answer is Strachan’s solution of playing KT in at Right Back. Keeps a back 4, with Hickey not set to return any time soon then is KT a better option in there to Ralston or Devlin…,possibly.
I think KT needs to be playing himself before any decision is made. Someone who follows it better than me will know, but is he injured still or now just out of favour at Arsenal??
Tierney on the bench as Arsenal cruising past West Ham, wonder if he will get on?🤔
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