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Topic Originator: Heinz57
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:17
Is it just me or would others agree that Tidser is looking out of his depth?
The play out from the back is clearly not working, you need to mix it up a bit.
As a manager I would expect him out in his technical area coaching and encouraging his team,not sitting on his backside in the dugout. I know it’s early days but the signs are not encouraging. A win at Hamilton is badly needed but based on today’s performance we may struggle.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:19
I never wanted him in the first place, I don’t like his style of play and I felt he was too inexperienced as a manager to take the job on.
I had low expectations but I didn’t think it would be this bad to watch.
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Topic Originator: Hunter78
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:20
Quote:
Heinz57, Sat 22 Feb 18:17
Is it just me or would others agree that Tidser is looking out of his depth?
The play out from the back is clearly not working, you need to mix it up a bit.
As a manager I would expect him out in his technical area coaching and encouraging his team,not sitting on his backside in the dugout. I know it’s early days but the signs are not encouraging. A win at Hamilton is badly needed but based on today’s performance we may struggle.
Terrible appointment and Peter Grant mark 2. No interviews to any candidate and we end up with 2 guys that must have thought all their Christmas had come at once. Shambolic decision by new owner and David Cook
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:20
I’ll go on record now and say we will beat Hamilton
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:21
He keeps on moaning about the state of the pitch but seems adamant to play this passing crap around in our own half. The second half was better but didn`t really carry any real goal threat. I`d take 8th right now as this style of "football" will cause us more problems than solutions.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:22
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 22 Feb 18:20
I’ll go on record now and say we will beat Hamilton
Is it on Pars TV. I really don’t feel like a long drive home on Tuesday.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:23
I can’t believe he played these tactics at Kelty so I’m not sure why he’s doing it now, maybe he’s his role is just to coach them and pitch an team to play the way the owners want as at the moment I can’t imagine anyone is enthusiastic at getting a season ticket next season.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:23
I wouldn’t waste my money watching that on Tuesday. Can only see one outcome and it involves pars nil.
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Topic Originator: FRED1981
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:24
In his interview he insists the players want to play his way fair enough .but mix it up with a few punts up the park.
F muller
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:28
Yeah I can believe the players will tell him they are happy to play his way, they want picked on a Saturday and contracts next season so “yes boss, good idea boss” type stuff.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:31
Quote:
Heinz57, Sat 22 Feb 18:17
Is it just me or would others agree that Tidser is looking out of his depth?
The play out from the back is clearly not working, you need to mix it up a bit.
As a manager I would expect him out in his technical area coaching and encouraging his team,not sitting on his backside in the dugout. I know it’s early days but the signs are not encouraging. A win at Hamilton is badly needed but based on today’s performance we may struggle.
Disagree totally.
We dominated that game. The boys should be disappointed we never took the 3 points. We let ourselves down with final balls and finishing.
The one who looked out of his depth today was Bene. Nose bleed every time he had the ball at his feet.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:41
Quote:
FRED1981, Sat 22 Feb 18:24
In his interview he insists the players want to play his way fair enough .but mix it up with a few punts up the park.
Then they should grow a pair and perhaps suggest it didn`t work for the last guy.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:42
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 22 Feb 18:31
Quote:
Heinz57, Sat 22 Feb 18:17
Is it just me or would others agree that Tidser is looking out of his depth?
The play out from the back is clearly not working, you need to mix it up a bit.
As a manager I would expect him out in his technical area coaching and encouraging his team,not sitting on his backside in the dugout. I know it’s early days but the signs are not encouraging. A win at Hamilton is badly needed but based on today’s performance we may struggle.
Disagree totally.
We dominated that game. The boys should be disappointed we never took the 3 points. We let ourselves down with final balls and finishing.
The one who looked out of his depth today was Bene. Nose bleed every time he had the ball at his feet.
Bene did not look out of place today. We could still be playing now and not score.
Wild take.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:44
The echo chamber of .net is extremely loud when you’re stuck in it eh!
We didn’t want a manager from the usual Scottish merrygo round but couldn’t we have got an experienced manager that knew the Scottish championship and had the guys playing long balls but keeping possession at the same time 🤷🏻♂️
COYP
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:48
Benedictus is not Baresi, he’s a no nonsense centre half and there’s nothing wrong with that. However we aren’t playing to our strengths. Got a keeper who’s as long and accurate as I’ve seen at this level he needs to be used when there’s nothing on.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:49
Quote:
DBA, Sat 22 Feb 18:42
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 22 Feb 18:31
Quote:
Heinz57, Sat 22 Feb 18:17
Is it just me or would others agree that Tidser is looking out of his depth?
The play out from the back is clearly not working, you need to mix it up a bit.
As a manager I would expect him out in his technical area coaching and encouraging his team,not sitting on his backside in the dugout. I know it’s early days but the signs are not encouraging. A win at Hamilton is badly needed but based on today’s performance we may struggle.
Disagree totally.
We dominated that game. The boys should be disappointed we never took the 3 points. We let ourselves down with final balls and finishing.
The one who looked out of his depth today was Bene. Nose bleed every time he had the ball at his feet.
Bene did not look out of place today. We could still be playing now and not score.
Wild take.
Almost as wild as when Bene lashed across his own 6 yard line eh!
Yeah you’re right, our final ball and finishing was shocking. Generally is when you have all the ball, 10 shots on goal and only hit the target once
COYP
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 22 Feb 18:50
Bene looked fine today, actually one of our best opportunities came from Bene smashing it long, the ball fell to Hamilton who played it across to yeboah just outside the six yard box but he couldn’t quite get enough on it to steer it in the corner.
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Topic Originator: morvenpar
Date: Sat 22 Feb 19:01
Yes, just you I’d say
Post Edited (Sat 22 Feb 19:02)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 22 Feb 19:28
Bene was fine today even though it was against a team more than happy to leave with a point.
Biggest problem in this team is a lack of awareness, game intelligence and quality in the final third. To many of them have heads down when they get the ball and the head only comes up when they have lost it.
No wonder we rarely look like scoring…
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 22 Feb 19:33
I was watching through my fingers when Bene had the ball especially when Rudden was right on his heels.
But that cross across the face of goal with no goalie - sweary words emanated from my seat.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sat 22 Feb 19:39
There was a post earlier in the week about football managers knowing way more than fans , the booing if the paasy passy, in the first half, and the change in the second half , proved passy doesn`t work , playing forward quicker does , take a bow the fans today .
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 22 Feb 19:48
I don’t know what the long term plan is with these tactics.
Hopefully stay up and then what? Mid table thanks to turning some defeats into 0-0 draws next season? How far will it get us? We are essentially trying to force teams onto us so we can play on the counter if we break through the press
This football only works if we have some excellent players in the midfield who can run through and we have quality upfront to take the chances as the opposition with still be set up defensively.
At this point in time only Oakley is capable of being that type of player and he doesn’t look fit enough. Do we think next season we’ll be brining in the type of quality we require to play this way and actually win games?
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 22 Feb 19:51
hey,we only need to match Hamiltons results and GD ,easy peesie :):)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 22 Feb 19:55
When Tidser talks about his way of playing I think he`s referring to passing the ball rather than lumping it up the park, not specifically playing out from the back. I think one of the problems we have with that is a lack of movement of players ahead of those who take the ball off Tobi. Towards the end JCM broke the mould by setting off on a run and maybe we have to vary it a bit to keep the opposition guessing.
The lack of scoring opportunities has nothing to do with playing out from the back, it`s making poor decisions or poor execution in the final third.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 22 Feb 19:58
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 22 Feb 19:55
When Tidser talks about his way of playing I think he`s referring to passing the ball rather than lumping it up the park, not specifically playing out from the back. I think one of the problems we have with that is a lack of movement of players ahead of those who take the ball off Tobi. Towards the end JCM broke the mould by setting off on a run and maybe we have to vary it a bit to keep the opposition guessing.
The lack of scoring opportunities has nothing to do with playing out from the back, it`s making poor decisions or poor execution in the final third.
Excellent post.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 22 Feb 19:58
Ian Murray would have had this team playing a lot better and more entertaining football.
He had plenty of championship experience and would of been my choice.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 22 Feb 19:59
It’s going to be a very long, boring and turgid couple of seasons ahead.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 22 Feb 20:02
Yeah, Murray was my preferred option too.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 22 Feb 20:12
We could have still been playing now and still not scored. If we don`t start winning games relegation playoffs look more and more likely.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: istvan kozma
Date: Sat 22 Feb 20:37
We have a great manager who will do a grand job for us. He`s only been in the job 35 seconds, give the man a chance!
KOZMA
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 22 Feb 20:45
Bit early to call him a great manager is it not. Don’t understand what he’s actually done to be called a great manager?
We’re playing the same football McPake played and look like scoring just as many goals. Zero.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 22 Feb 20:45
Quote:
Never10yairds, Sat 22 Feb 18:50
Bene looked fine today, actually one of our best opportunities came from Bene smashing it long, the ball fell to Hamilton who played it across to yeboah just outside the six yard box but he couldn’t quite get enough on it to steer it in the corner.
Defensively fine aye. He looks uncomfortable on the ball deep in his own half tho. Hence that absolute howler just before half time.
COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 22 Feb 20:50
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Sat 22 Feb 20:45
Bit early to call him a great manager is it not. Don’t understand what he’s actually done to be called a great manager?
We’re playing the same football McPake played and look like scoring just as many goals. Zero.
Honestly don’t know how you come to the conclusion we’re playing the same football we did under McPake.
Aye final ball and finishing killed us today but I don’t think I can think of a game we had as much possession and shots on goal under McPake, albeit we were never going to score today.
COYP
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sat 22 Feb 20:52
Four games and no goals. Really tedious stuff. Had to chuckle when the boos were ringing out and then the ironic cheers when we quickly changed to kicking long from the tippy tappy. That had to be embarrassing for him.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sat 22 Feb 20:53
and this is why it will never work.
just wasting everyone`s time until the fans get what they want.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 22 Feb 20:53
Quote:
The Boss, Sat 22 Feb 20:52
Four games and no goals. Really tedious stuff. Had to chuckle when the boos were ringing out and then the ironic cheers when we quickly changed to kicking long from the tippy tappy. That had to be embarrassing for him.
Yeah it was hilarious when we booted it right out the park. Superb stuff right enough.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 22 Feb 20:57
I defended the Tidser appointment but hearing him, it`s going to be a long 3 years.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Sat 22 Feb 20:58
Regardless of wether or not his tactics work or not, I’ve never been as bored at a game as I was in the first half today ( second half was marginally better). I find his style of football utterly boring.
I think fans in general are. Arsenal fan on talksport on my way home had similar grievance about Arteta, referring to the endless side to side passing as “ the horseshoe of death”.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 22 Feb 21:02
We had 1 shot on goal today? I’m sure we actually had more shots on target under McPake in games. What a ridiculous statement.
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Sat 22 Feb 21:05
I understand the frustration from fans towards Tidser`s tactics. However, upon examining his league performances over four matches—one loss, one victory, and two draws—it becomes apparent that he has secured 5 points from a possible 12, alongside achieving 2 clean sheets.
Although I was initially resistant to Tidser, it appears we are gradually progressing in a positive direction. The game on Tuesday evening is massive for us.
I watched the game on pars tv due to work commitments. I thought we showcased our dominance without truly threatening the queens. We done a lot right, yet faltered in the final third due to poor decision making.i think we just need a-bit of luck in the final third. I’m hopeful that we can start to get some wins under our belt and shift our focus upwards rather than looking behind us.
Will be heading to Hamilton on Tuesday night in hope we can get 3 points.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 22 Feb 21:15
You go to watch a football match that is an entertaining sport and watch that absolut utter borefest today…it’s truly awful to watch. And just my opinion he comes across as a bit naive and out of his depth… but hey ho just keep us up for next season.. and finally get rid of the deadwood.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sat 22 Feb 21:15
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 22 Feb 20:53
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The Boss, Sat 22 Feb 20:52
Four games and no goals. Really tedious stuff. Had to chuckle when the boos were ringing out and then the ironic cheers when we quickly changed to kicking long from the tippy tappy. That had to be embarrassing for him.
Yeah it was hilarious when we booted it right out the park. Superb stuff right enough.
I don’t think it’s too much to ask for more than one shot on target but you knock yourself out. These games are passing us by.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 22 Feb 21:17
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Sat 22 Feb 21:02
We had 1 shot on goal today? I’m sure we actually had more shots on target under McPake in games. What a ridiculous statement.
be honest ,we had a few shots blocked
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sat 22 Feb 21:22
We have got a young, ambitious manager who has been in the door 5 minutes. He inherited a poor squad and has quickly set about weeding out the underperformers. He has brought in a number of new players, a few of which have settled in quickly and others who will need more time. He is trying to play a brand of football he believes in although on our gluepot of a pitch, it is making things more difficult. From listening to and reading his interviews, I reckon he knows exactly what he is doing and I believe he will be a success at our club. Some of you never wanted him in the first place and are quick to jump on his back. I say, give him a chance because, given time, I believe a lot of you may be eating humble pie.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 22 Feb 21:30
I dont think its so much jumping on him.More as the style of play tippy tappy at the back .
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Sat 22 Feb 21:38
I agree with CrossPar
We were for long spells in total command. Getting a blend is important and the skill level and the ability to get the ball back and being able to not get knocked off the ball have all improved in the last few weeks. Defence and midfield are pretty tight … in the box is where it’s not yet working. If we had scored today we would have scored more. Our confidence is building. Put me on record for saying we will finish 7 or more points away from 9th.
I’m not saying it’s my preferred viewing but we are completely comfortable with playing possession from the back looking for the spare runner/man. We won’t be shipping many goals from now on… Mullen will make sure of that ! If it wasn’t for Benes ability to direct verbally and spot what’s going on, perhaps Fogarty would be a better partner for Mullen ? It appears we have an option for Mullen ( which we have to take up) but he will be sold before next season starts and we could just make a small fortune. That’s what the new owners need so we can be profitable.
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 22 Feb 21:42
Quote:
The Boss, Sat 22 Feb 21:15
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da_no_1, Sat 22 Feb 20:53
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The Boss, Sat 22 Feb 20:52
Four games and no goals. Really tedious stuff. Had to chuckle when the boos were ringing out and then the ironic cheers when we quickly changed to kicking long from the tippy tappy. That had to be embarrassing for him.
Yeah it was hilarious when we booted it right out the park. Superb stuff right enough.
I don’t think it’s too much to ask for more than one shot on target but you knock yourself out. These games are passing us by.
2 completely different points. This is hard work
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sat 22 Feb 22:01
Quote:
Rigger Al, Sat 22 Feb 21:30
I dont think its so much jumping on him.More as the style of play tippy tappy at the back .
Out of his depth
Never wanted him in the first place
Peter Grant mark 2
That was 3 of the comments.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 22 Feb 22:14
I absolutely saw him as a positive appointment, thus far I see the same style as McPake with better players to waste and it`s a boring watch.
Hopefully it clicks and we stay up, I think we will but I, like others wouldn`t mind a bit more attacking intent.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 22 Feb 22:18
Tippy tappy at the back….Bene doesn’t look comfortable at all in this area..says it all!
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sat 22 Feb 22:27
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da_no_1, Sat 22 Feb 21:42
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The Boss, Sat 22 Feb 21:15
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da_no_1, Sat 22 Feb 20:53
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The Boss, Sat 22 Feb 20:52
Four games and no goals. Really tedious stuff. Had to chuckle when the boos were ringing out and then the ironic cheers when we quickly changed to kicking long from the tippy tappy. That had to be embarrassing for him.
Yeah it was hilarious when we booted it right out the park. Superb stuff right enough.
I don’t think it’s too much to ask for more than one shot on target but you knock yourself out. These games are passing us by.
2 completely different points. This is hard work
It certainly is when you’re involved in threads. You come across as such an angry person.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: Dafc91
Date: Sat 22 Feb 22:41
I was sick to death of watching mcpakes brand of football but have plugged along every home game and every other week away. Tidser said early on he`s not changing his style of play and this is us now. I won`t be back until the end of the season if today is what we`re getting. Will re evaluate on the season ticket renewal then. Absolutely scunnered watching this garbage every week and paying for the privilege.
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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic
Date: Sat 22 Feb 22:49
He has had 4 league games and picked up 5 out of 12 points. We have scored 3 goals in that time all against the rovers. 2 were from penalties. Only 1 goal from open play and his style doesn`t suggest we will score many more with the slow build up
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 22 Feb 22:50
2 games where we should at least draw… next 4 games after 🤷 With the way the team plays it’s not looking good..
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 22 Feb 23:02
I think that is how a lot of folk see it Dafc91, I totally empathise with being scunnered, we have been utter garbage for so long. We have massively underperformed as a club for pretty much 2 decades… when Mcpake went and a new owner was waiting in the wings I allowed myself to feel a sense of optimism that maybe we would get it right… then we appointed tidser and my hopes were dashed somewhat.
Will we get it right eventually? Surely we will sooner or later. We can’t keep getting it wrong forever. Eventually we will appoint a manager who will take us back to where we belong. It hurts watching us go through this though because I f***ing love the club. The indignities of seeing us go down to the seaside league twice, the boardroom mismanagement, administration, the truly awful and bizarre managerial appointments, the poor player recruitment… we have been through it mate. We deserve to be rewarded as a fanbase for enduring that and I live in hope one day we will be.
Try to keep heart that all this is temporary and it will pass. Players and managers come and go but the club will eventually find its way back to the top flight.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 22 Feb 23:29
Well the way Tidser has us playing we will easily be in the playoffs.
Looking back when we beat Kelty Hearts and Tidser just played his way which I found a bit weird…. Change it up etc but we won easily🤷
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 23 Feb 00:26
Look, that was a pretty awful watch today but under his management we`re in a better position than we were when McPake left.
Give the guy a chance, eh.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 23 Feb 00:37
Oh come on, da no 1, he`s had four league games. Let`s get rid of him and hire somebody else and see how he`s done after four games. We`re bound to get it right eventually.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sun 23 Feb 09:00
It`s easier to post this without having spent the cash and time yesterday but it seems pretty clear to me that we need to give Tidser some time and not hang him out to dry for what feels like 15 years of underperformance as a club.
I think we had something like half a new team yesterday? That takes time.
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Topic Originator: InschPar
Date: Sun 23 Feb 09:21
I remember people claiming they were bored of the tactics Jimmy Calderwood employed when he took over, maybe he had some better players, but it was all possession based football, his teams never lumped it up the park.
Let’s give Tidser a chance.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 23 Feb 09:28
Happy to give Tidser time as I can’t believe we’ll persist with this way of playing, unless we still have some quality coming in on a free or on loan.
It does take time to bed in a new team, that’s why some proven quality at this level was required as the being kind the likes of yeboah clearly needs time to settle but we’ve only 11 games left. Same with Oakley, didn’t look anywhere near fit so was a passager bar an early cameo. Not all the new signings will improve us either with Taylor Clarke not getting a chance even though wotherspoon was so poor.
No point in adding pace and drive to the team when we play in such as way that we don’t utilise pace or drive and the push to pass sideways or back removes any responsibility to create anything going forward.
It could all change if we get a good result on Tuesday. One thing is for sure, we absolutely need to score first as we’re not good enough to break teams down.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Benny74
Date: Sun 23 Feb 09:30
Yesterday was frustrating but it’s new players and a new system with some young boys playing against men for the first time. There was glimpses of good stuff yesterday that will be good in time. It was always going to require patience.
Benny74
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 23 Feb 09:39
I`m not seeing this "Oakley clearly not fit/passenger" at all. He looks like the kinda player who doesn`t run around like a headless chicken flying into tackles.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 23 Feb 09:44
I agree he’s not that type of player but I can’t remember him touching the ball in the second half, totally invisible after looking good in first 20 minutes.
I’m hoping it’s fitness otherwise why was he not more involved?
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy
Date: Sun 23 Feb 09:50
I`d like the Pars to mix it up more. Sometimes build from the back. Sometimes go with long clearances from the keeper. IMO the more you keep the opposition guessing, the better.
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Sun 23 Feb 10:21
After being a bit negative yesterday I`m going to try and be a bit more positive today.
If I was managing a club that was struggling in the league, I`d make solidifying the defence the first priority. Tidser seems to be achieving that. A lot of us don`t like the style of play, but we seem to be a bit less prone to giving the ball away in positions that damage us. That is a (small) improvement.
Goals change games. We actually had a few decent chances yesterday, but the best ones fell to Wotherspoon (who had a shocker) and Hamilton (who would never claim to be a striker). On another day at least one of those chances ends up as a goal and it`s a totally different game.
A fair few of the players coming in are improving the team and they`ve only been playing together for a short time and will continue to gel as they train and play together more.
So the defence is more solid and Oakley seems to be player that you can build a midfield around. Mullen is a star and Stevens should start every week. Young can score goals. Kane will come back. Yeboah wasn`t as good yesterday, but looked pretty good against Livingston.
Tidser is not going to change his mind on the style of play, but as he works out his best eleven there`s a chance that the players will "click". If they can add some dynamism to the basic philosophy it could be much more enjoyable to watch. Although the second half was more entertaining yesterday, there were some moments in the first half where we put together some really good moves.
We won`t go down. It`s boring to watch right now, but the team is definitely more solid and less accident prone than it was under McPake. Even if we end up in a play off, we`ll beat anyone from League 1. We were light years ahead of Stenhousemuir in the cup and that was with Joe Chalmers at left back!
It may be that the only real entertainment value I get from the rest of the season is to watch Mullen dominate every single striker he comes up against. I`d prefer some goals, but there were moments in his play yesterday that were almost worth the ticket price on their own.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 23 Feb 10:54
^^^^ Good post, Blacklight.
I don`t think it was as bad a game as some make out. For sure, the first half was poor, but the second was a marked improvement. We had better individual players on the park yesterday than we had under McPake, but we`re not yet a better team. Logically, that will come, as the players gel from the experience of playing together. It was frustrating that we couldn`t put the ball in the net, through a mixture of poor decision making, QP`s stuffy defending and the lack of a lucky break in front of goal.
As other posters have alluded, our more skillful players were handicapped by that glue pot pitch. Playing on Accies astro may actually prove to be advantageous for us and I can see us winning or at least not losing.
We have better players, they just need to make it count.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 23 Feb 11:00
Quote:
BlackLight, Sun 23 Feb 10:21
After being a bit negative yesterday I`m going to try and be a bit more positive today.
If I was managing a club that was struggling in the league, I`d make solidifying the defence the first priority. Tidser seems to be achieving that. A lot of us don`t like the style of play, but we seem to be a bit less prone to giving the ball away in positions that damage us. That is a (small) improvement.
Goals change games. We actually had a few decent chances yesterday, but the best ones fell to Wotherspoon (who had a shocker) and Hamilton (who would never claim to be a striker). On another day at least one of those chances ends up as a goal and it`s a totally different game.
A fair few of the players coming in are improving the team and they`ve only been playing together for a short time and will continue to gel as they train and play together more.
So the defence is more solid and Oakley seems to be player that you can build a midfield around. Mullen is a star and Stevens should start every week. Young can score goals. Kane will come back. Yeboah wasn`t as good yesterday, but looked pretty good against Livingston.
Tidser is not going to change his mind on the style of play, but as he works out his best eleven there`s a chance that the players will "click". If they can add some dynamism to the basic philosophy it could be much more enjoyable to watch. Although the second half was more entertaining yesterday, there were some moments in the first half where we put together some really good moves.
We won`t go down. It`s boring to watch right now, but the team is definitely more solid and less accident prone than it was under McPake. Even if we end up in a play off, we`ll beat anyone from League 1. We were light years ahead of Stenhousemuir in the cup and that was with Joe Chalmers at left back!
It may be that the only real entertainment value I get from the rest of the season is to watch Mullen dominate every single striker he comes up against. I`d prefer some goals, but there were moments in his play yesterday that were almost worth the ticket price on their own.
I get that and agree with your post. We actually changed it up a bit in the second half but the question was why it took us until then to have any sort of sense of direction with our passing.
I algo get tidser wants to play the passing way but he constantly crucifies the pitch at eep and rightly so but it does beg the question if it`s affecting the way we play that much why we don`t adapt to the situation and change it.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 23 Feb 11:13
You can play the way he wants to but move the ball quicker.
There were a number of times early in the game when Oakley was available but Tobi took the safer option.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sun 23 Feb 11:46
Post Edited (Sun 23 Feb 12:05)
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sun 23 Feb 12:38
Inschpar
We often played it long under Calderwood, we boomed it up to Brewster/Bullen about 50 times a game. We would play passing football too but as part of a balanced overall style of play. We were never this one dimensional under jimmy C.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 23 Feb 12:49
Trying to play passing football isn`t `one dimensional`. No wonder Scottish football has such a poor reputation amongst other countries. We should be trying to develop players in all positions who are `comfortable on the ball` rather than concentrating on the long ball or playing into the channels.
The tippy tappy stuff across the back four and with the goalie frustrates me as much as anyone but I`d like to see us making better use of the ball farther up the field. I`d say Falkirk are the best at it in the Championship. When they get into the final third they`re always looking to make chances with good movement and accurate passing. Lots of other teams just `hit and hope`.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 23 Feb 12:54
Quote:
Never10yairds, Sun 23 Feb 12:38
Inschpar
We often played it long under Calderwood, we boomed it up to Brewster/Bullen about 50 times a game. We would play passing football too but as part of a balanced overall style of play. We were never this one dimensional under jimmy C.
Tbf Jimmy C was manager when I was searching for Nokia ringtones on DuckDuckGo and arranging nights out on Bebo 🤷🏻♂️😂 I don’t think it’s got any relevance to where we are now as a club.
I don’t know if Tidser is going to be a great long term manager for the club but he’s the manager now and has been here for 4 league games. We’ve got better since he came in and are now not looking like we’re likely to loose every time we step on the pitch.
Also worth noting we had one of the best playing squads in Scotland under Jimmy C and we were paying for it with debt that almost closed the club.
COYP
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 23 Feb 14:56
These "new" signings have come through the English Acadamies where they play on pitches like billiard tables, probably all astro.
Our deteriorating potato patch did nothing to compliment their game, maybe big improvement on Tuesday on Hamiltons billiard table?
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 23 Feb 16:45
sadly our playing surface has been terrible .We always had one of the best in the league ,is it down to cost cutting
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 23 Feb 16:56
I thought it was down to the use of the undersoil heating?
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 23 Feb 17:18
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 23 Feb 16:56
I thought it was down to the use of the undersoil heating?
not sure wee eck ,as i think we have undesoil issues almost every year and I cant remeber for a long time the playing surface being so bad
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 23 Feb 17:35
I couldn’t believe my eyes as the players went through their warm up drills under the main stand, where the pitch is at its worst. Groundsman must have been pulling his hair out.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 23 Feb 18:11
Quote:
InschPar, Sun 23 Feb 09:21
I remember people claiming they were bored of the tactics Jimmy Calderwood employed when he took over, maybe he had some better players, but it was all possession based football, his teams never lumped it up the park.
Let’s give Tidser a chance.
I bet it was the same folk..
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 23 Feb 18:29
Quote:
Rigger Al, Sun 23 Feb 17:18
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 23 Feb 16:56
I thought it was down to the use of the undersoil heating?
not sure wee eck ,as i think we have undesoil issues almost every year and I cant remeber for a long time the playing surface being so bad
You can see the straight lines where the USH pipes run underneath. The club spent a lot of money on fuel, to put it on for 3 days in a bid to get a game played on the Saturday, to no avail.
Might be better just binning it. Is USH a prerequisite of entry into the Premiership?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: grelin
Date: Sun 23 Feb 18:41
I could actually see what Tidser was advocating yesterday at times when we played out and found Oakley in acres of space and he drove forward. Conversely I also saw the pitfalls at times, especially Benes rush of blood to the head when he passed across the goal line.
We do however need to get balls into the box instead of faffing about looking for the perfect delivery into it. If we don`t shoot we don`t score.
Encouraging there were signs our new recruits are a step in the right direction in their class and hopefully it all clicks soon and the goals flow.
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Topic Originator: DNCH
Date: Tue 25 Feb 05:32
"and this is why it will never work.
just wasting everyone`s time until the fans get what they want."
I don`t know how to reply to this user specifically. What on Earth does this mean? Between this quote and the repeated use of the term "tippy tappy" throughout, this thread is an eye-watering read.
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