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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Wed 26 Feb 15:41
So we are nearing the last chance saloon in terms of achieving the possible safe haven of 8th place. We are in bother and on current form could finish 10th.
Never felt so down with the club in general as I do now, but as football fans we always live in hope.
So the team to get a result on Saturday, I would go with
Tobi
Conrie if fit
Mullen
Fogarty
Ngwemya
Stevens
Otoo
Taylor Clark
Ohalloran if fit
Young
Kane
Take a seat Weatherspoon, Yeboah, Todd, Benedictus, Hamilton, MCcann, Oakley Booth.
Those not listed have burnt their bridges for me and even some of the starters I hope are nowhere near us next season but I am sick and tired of watching the same charlatans serve up the same rancid crap week after week.
To be honest even typing these names out is under whelming.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 26 Feb 15:48
I’d agree
Tobi
Comrie
Mullen
Fogarty
Ngwenya
MOH
Otoo
Oakley
Stevens
Young
Kane
I don’t want to see Bene, Wotherspoon, Hammy, McCann or Chalmers anywhere near the squad.
Bene for me slows it down far too much bath back and I’d prefer Forgarty/Mullen partnership.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 26 Feb 15:50
It’s funny. Some are saying we have brought in inexperienced players for a relegation fight and then we see some calling for the experienced players we do have to be given the heave-ho.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Wed 26 Feb 15:52
Not a popular opinion but Chalmers in midfield last night would at least have lifted his head and passed to a member of the same team, a feat seemingly beyond most.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 26 Feb 16:02
It`s amazing how one-time pariahs suddenly become Messiahs on this forum!
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Wed 26 Feb 16:08
Fogarty is no better on the ball than Benedictus from what i`ve seen.
Morton are going to be like a slightly less good version of Livingston. It`s going to be a battle; corners, throw ins launched in and all the rest. Defo wanna the captain in there IMO.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Wed 26 Feb 16:21
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 26 Feb 16:02
It`s amazing how one-time pariahs suddenly become Messiahs on this forum!
Who?
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 26 Feb 16:29
Raymie i assume like me many are wanting the experienced players dropped as they aren’t performing, they are miles off it.
Something needs to change and it’s the usual names who seem to be guaranteed starters that need to go.
Post Edited (Wed 26 Feb 16:30)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 26 Feb 16:36
You can’t drop them all. We need a blend of both.
It doesn’t help that we have so many players unavailable and have let others go out on loan.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 26 Feb 16:46
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford like
Date: Wed 26 Feb 16:21
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 26 Feb 16:02
It`s amazing how one-time pariahs suddenly become Messiahs on this forum!
Who?
Well not long ago it was suggested MOH was just here to pick up a wage, unfavourable comparisons were made between JC-M and Fogarty and you have suggested Chalmers should be brought in, possibly the most vilified man in the squad. I`m not suggesting these changes shouldn`t be made, just pointing out how fickle fans can be. Personally, I might consider bringing Clay back to add a bit of dig in midfield.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Wed 26 Feb 17:06
That`s only accurate if it`s the same posters saying one thing - and then saying the other further down the line.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 26 Feb 17:20
Fair enough, the jury might be split on Fogarty and Chalmers but I don`t recall MOH having many supporters until MT gave him a few minutes recently.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Wed 26 Feb 17:20
Both things can be true no?
I could be at work and not good enough to really be in post, but if the company desperately needs someone and no one else is available as the intern is no real use, then I’ll likely be called on
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 26 Feb 17:30
The problem is we`re all hoping for an improvement in performances and results from when these guys were more active in the squad.
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Wed 26 Feb 17:57
It seemed to me that MOH has looked more committed and dangerous coming on for Tidser than he did under McPake. I`d be happy if he started MOH and Stevens in wide positions.
Comrie has to play if he`s fit. Mullen and Bene were left massively exposed by the full backs last night on a few occasions (although some of them were caused by them losing the ball when they were near to being the last man).
I`m really hoping Kane is OK to play. Whoever starts it`ll be a battle against Morton and I`d want to have his physicality and experience up front.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Wed 26 Feb 18:05
My picks for Saturday:
Tobi
Comrie*
Bene
Mullen
Ngwenya
Stevens
Otoo
Clay
MOH
Kane*
C young
*if fit.
Manager: Lanza John
Tactics: get the ball forward quickly, win second balls and play in their half.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 26 Feb 18:29
No idea how everyone still puts otoo in there? Quite frankly he’s had a crap season so far. More disappointing as we really needed him to kick on.
Connor young to start and what’s the point with the rest, the team almost picks itself looking at the personnel available.
Secretly hoping we can sort out a loan or 2 tomorrow.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Wed 26 Feb 18:31
Quote:
Berkey, Wed 26 Feb 18:29
No idea how everyone still puts otoo in there? Quite frankly he’s had a crap season so far. More disappointing as we really needed him to kick on.
Connor young to start and what’s the point with the rest, the team almost picks itself looking at the personnel available.
Secretly hoping we can sort out a loan or 2 tomorrow.
Totally agree on Otoo. Gets a free pass every week. Doesn’t do enough in middle for me.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Wed 26 Feb 18:45
This is an absolute must win. As I can’t see us getting much from the 4 after it . Need a reaction from players but the manager needs a good look at himself too. If he’s stubborn and won’t change then it’ll be league one again
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 26 Feb 18:52
The worrying thing is we don`t even look capable of scoring. Everyone else seems to be finding a way to grind out results required where we struggle to get out our own half.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: mars par
Date: Wed 26 Feb 18:52
Otoo has had a couple of decent games as a CM out of the 20 or so games he`s played there. He doesn`t affect the game enough when played in the middle of the park
I`ve no idea why he is consistently played as a midfielder now. In my mind he`s a good CB that can make forward runs when the chance presents itself, which is something that would surely fit Tidser`s approach quite well
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 26 Feb 19:53
Ewan is not good enough in the air to play CB.
I still think LB is his best position. That’s where he played for Celtic.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Wed 26 Feb 20:50
Otoo has been in our top 3 players all season, he`s gone off form but to suggest he`s had a rubbish season is over the top.
He consistently is put next to some dud in midfield and is having to work his socks off to cover for them. He`ll be gone for a decent transfer fee in the summer much like josh Edwards was last year
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 26 Feb 21:09
Top 3 players for us doesn’t mean they have been any good though. Not one of them has had a good season.
He may well be sold on but if anyone’s been scouting him what would those reports say?
Like KRH, he’s really struggled to make an impact at this level.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Wed 26 Feb 21:15
Otoo’s been alright but I don’t share the opinion that he’ll be away for big money sometime soon. Happy to have him but seen nothing to suggest that he’s playing below himself in the Scottish championship. I see him as a left wing back. Not the best in the air and too 1-footed for CM.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Wed 26 Feb 23:02
have we not picked up and scored more goals against the teams at the top.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Thu 27 Feb 10:42
Quote:
Berkey, Wed 26 Feb 21:09
Top 3 players for us doesn’t mean they have been any good though. Not one of them has had a good season.
He may well be sold on but if anyone’s been scouting him what would those reports say?
Like KRH, he’s really struggled to make an impact at this level.
I`d agree he`s not been consistent enough, but I`m not sure how you can compare him to KRH, Otoo has not looked out of place since we got promoted, especially having to mostly play with Hamilton and Chalmers who are essentially league 1 standard midfielders.
Physically he has no problem against the better sides, we saw that against Aberdeen where he had a terrific game. At 22 he has plenty of time to develop the consistency, but I have no doubts after turning down offers last summer that we`ll see clubs come in for him regardless of where we end up come the end of the season.
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Topic Originator: bannerpar
Date: Thu 27 Feb 12:52
In the few matches this season where we`ve been able to get a few goals the one common denominator was that Chris Kane was in the team. Really hope he is fit enough to play on Saturday and more often in the run in even it is only for an hour a game. The young boys really struggle when he isn`t there. It`s maybe unfair to put the pressure on one man and it would have been good to have got someone experienced and capable for support but that`s maybe a pipedream at this stage. Last week Tidser didn`t entirely rule out another signing but we don`t need another untried youngster.
Everyone feels bad after Tuesday`s result but I hope the crowd doesn`t get on the players` back if things don`t go that well early in the game. We don`t want to go through the events of three years ago when even half decent players weren`t doing it because confidence was shot.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 27 Feb 17:45
Incredible Morton are 5/2 to win on Saturday.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Thu 27 Feb 17:51
``Everyone feels bad after Tuesday`s result but I hope the crowd doesn`t get on the players` back if things don`t go that well early in the game. We don`t want to go through the events of three years ago when even half decent players weren`t doing it because confidence was shot.``
I`m giving it a miss because of this. Genuinely can`t bear the football we play and I`m so peed off with everything Pars right now that I can see me moaning throughout. It`s better for everyone that I give it a miss.
Post Edited (Thu 27 Feb 18:00)
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 27 Feb 17:54
Quote:
Bertie Paton, Thu 27 Feb 17:51
Everyone feels bad after Tuesday`s result but I hope the crowd doesn`t get on the players` back if things don`t go that well early in the game. We don`t want to go through the events of three years ago when even half decent players weren`t doing it because confidence was shot.
I`m giving it a miss because of this. Genuinely can`t bear the football we play and I`m so peed off with everything Pars right now that I can see me moaning throughout. It`s better for everyone that I give it a miss.
These players aren`t doing it because of their confidence or the crowd , it`s because most are not good enough .
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Thu 27 Feb 18:56
Given that there is a good chance we are going to need these guys to win a relegation playoff, and lots of them are likely to be away next season.
I don`t think it is a smart idea to keep telling them you want rid.
If they are pissed off enough they just might give us a parting gift that we don`t want.
Just like the last time.
It only takes one or two of them.
Post Edited (Thu 27 Feb 18:57)
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Thu 27 Feb 18:59
Think everyone is getting emotional because we are playing cr*p, can’t scores goals and are losing to worse teams 🤣!
Reality is if the tactics were changed, and we make some tweaks to the team, we have a decent squad. As for Otoo think he is a good player.
We have to beat Morton and Hamilton at home and hope we can pick up points where we don’t expect to. Can’t see us staying up tbh but live in hope!
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 27 Feb 19:02
Quote:
PARrot, Thu 27 Feb 18:56
Given that there is a good chance we are going to need these guys to win a relegation playoff, and lots of them are likely to be away next season.
I don`t think it is a smart idea to keep telling them you want rid.
If they are pissed off enough they just might give us a parting gift that we don`t want.
Just like the last time.
It only takes one or two of them.
If they are worried about what is put
on a football forum ,and decide to play accordingly then professional football is not for them.
Secondly that`s assuming they are good enough to chose to win or lose .
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Thu 27 Feb 19:28
I am working this Saturday; had it not been for my commitments, I would have chosen to not to go to the game. I am still reeling from the Hamilton match, which felt like the final straw. This team appears doomed to relegation. I can’t see us picking many points in our upcoming fixtures. There are no leaders on the pitch, no togetherness, and a lack of bravery with the ball.
I don’t trust the players or tidser to steer us to safety. Albeit I agreed with his post match comments that he’s trying. But he’s too inexperienced for the job.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Thu 27 Feb 19:49
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Thu 27 Feb 19:02
Quote:
PARrot, Thu 27 Feb 18:56
Given that there is a good chance we are going to need these guys to win a relegation playoff, and lots of them are likely to be away next season.
I don`t think it is a smart idea to keep telling them you want rid.
If they are pissed off enough they just might give us a parting gift that we don`t want.
Just like the last time.
It only takes one or two of them.
If they are worried about what is put
on a football forum ,and decide to play accordingly then professional football is not for them.
Secondly that`s assuming they are good enough to chose to win or lose .
Ok, so if they can`t take constantly being told that they are not wanted, then professional football may not be for some of them.
You may be right.
How does that affect them if they are leaving and they feel like giving us the bird on the way out.
I really don`t know if any of this squad would do that, but I have always believed some of the last lot did exactly that.
If you feel you are being short-changed, you are perfectly entitled to vent.
I just don`t think it is wise to be too heavy.
I really think the wise thing to do just now is to get behind them and try to boost their confidence.
I may be completely wrong, but given human nature, I could be right.
wettingoff the very people you need to perform for you just isn`t smart.
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Fri 28 Feb 00:06
I do hope his public statement about players comfort zones etc will have the right result.
I do also have hope - because the likes of Falkirk will/won`t bring out the very best of us on the 8th.
That said - I`m going pike fishing on Saturday and turning off contact with the outside world.
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 28 Feb 07:11
Quote:
PARrot, Thu 27 Feb 19:49
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Thu 27 Feb 19:02
Quote:
PARrot, Thu 27 Feb 18:56
Given that there is a good chance we are going to need these guys to win a relegation playoff, and lots of them are likely to be away next season.
I don`t think it is a smart idea to keep telling them you want rid.
If they are pissed off enough they just might give us a parting gift that we don`t want.
Just like the last time.
It only takes one or two of them.
If they are worried about what is put
on a football forum ,and decide to play accordingly then professional football is not for them.
Secondly that`s assuming they are good enough to chose to win or lose .
Ok, so if they can`t take constantly being told that they are not wanted, then professional football may not be for some of them.
You may be right.
How does that affect them if they are leaving and they feel like giving us the bird on the way out.
I really don`t know if any of this squad would do that, but I have always believed some of the last lot did exactly that.
If you feel you are being short-changed, you are perfectly entitled to vent.
I just don`t think it is wise to be too heavy.
I really think the wise thing to do just now is to get behind them and try to boost their confidence.
I may be completely wrong, but given human nature, I could be right.
wettingoff the very people you need to perform for you just isn`t smart.
To counterbalance that is it productive to tell them everything is alright? Most of these guys were murder under mcpake and so far have continued in the same way under Tidser. Its clear that most of these players won`t get a gig any higher than the level they are at now.
Mcpake got the bullet mainly due to his recruitment and giving new deals to guys who were relegated last time they were in these waters.
I don`t think regardless of the outcome this season we will sack tidser until after the summer window has come and gone. Although summer will be massive for him. He needs to make sure recruitment is on point to avoid the same fate as mcpake. He also needs to look at himself, it`s very rare a manager changes his style or philosophy although a good example would be David Gray at Hibs. He was seen as a certainty to be the next manager to go until he changed his style to suit the squad at his disposal and now I think they are something like 14 unbeaten and stick ones for top sox at least. Survival is imperative for the clubs future considering the eye watering losses that you can receive in league 1. Change the style to try and stay up then try to implement your own way of playing in the summer when you can bring in players who will play that way.
This squad lacks character and it`s been clear all too often this season. 2 great examples where Hamilton on Tuesday where if it finishes 2 or 3 I don`t think it would have flattered Hamilton just after they scored they hit the post and were creating chances at will because we collapsed. The other example is the Airdrie away game we went 1 down to a team who at the time of the game had won 1 game previously and that was opening day of the season. Again went 1 down and couldn`t get a reaction out of the team against at that time the worst team in the league.
The worrying thing is we don`t back ourselves to get back into the game once going behind. That isn`t a trait we want when we are in a relegation dog fight. Unfortunately we look very similar to the mcpake team who got relegated from this league last time we have no belief or character when times get tough. Missing kane is massive for us but we know he will miss a fair amount of games season after season and we need to dig deeper to find a way around the problems. There are probably only 3 maybe 4 players who if we lost I`d be worried about. And 2 of them are just in the door and I think regardless of our status next season will not be here next season.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Fri 28 Feb 07:14)
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Topic Originator: grelin
Date: Fri 28 Feb 07:34
Sadly you make a valid point Cammy in that we seem to lack the ability to fight back once we go behind. Is it a psychological trait that we know we will struggle to score one goal never mind two to win the game? Even more worrying is the fact that despite the amount of recent additions, there does not seem to have been a lift amongst the squad and their collective enthusiasm and drive have been brought into question, resulting in drastic action by the manager with his comments in post match interviews.
I will stake my colours to the mast and say that whilst Tidser was an unambitious appointment, I was optimistic that he would galvanise the team and play better football than under McPake. However that has not happened to date and whilst there is still time left, we need to get the finger out the proverbial and beat Morton tomorrow otherwise I feel further malaise will creep in and in good old Dads Army parlance we will be `doomed`.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 28 Feb 10:08
It`s always interesting to read the analyses of fellow fans` re our current problems and their suggested solutions to overcome them but it`s important to get the facts right in making these assessments.
cammypar 1995 says `Unfortunately we look very similar to the mcpake team who got relegated from this league last time we have no belief or character when times get tough.`
Well, James McPake made mistakes as manager but he wasn`t in post when we got relegated. That was down to Grant and Hughes.
grelin states `Sadly you make a valid point Cammy in that we seem to lack the ability to fight back once we go behind.`
Tidser hasn`t been in post too long and maybe it`s too early to draw too many conclusions but we did come from 1-0 down to meet the Rovers 3-1 a few weeks ago.
Maybe these factual inaccuracies wouldn`t change the fundamental arguments but maybe they illustrate how fans` views can be influenced by impressions rather than hard facts.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Fri 28 Feb 10:46
I think the squad is good enough to stay up if they are utilised in the right way, which hasn’t happened since Tidser came in with his stubborn insistence on playing his way. One of three things will happen:
1. He will put substance before style and start playing direct, we will scrape survival if he does it quickly enough.
2. He will insist on playing his way and we will be relegated.
3. He will be sacked before the season ends.
Given the statements he has made I think 2 is the most likely but I’m hoping for 1 because I really can’t stomach another season in the seaside league.
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Fri 28 Feb 11:25
We really need a reaction.
Hopefully Kane is fit because without him we’ve offered nothing up top.
Don’t know where we go if we don’t get a performance after Tidser called the players out. Maybe he’s had some self reflection too and the tactics will be altered slightly.
Another big game and I’m actually looking forward to seeing how we react as I think this game could go on to make or break the season.
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Fri 28 Feb 11:29
IMO : 3 pts on Saturday anything else is a failure.
The priority is to get the team to safety.
Not the formation, nor the tactics. It’s going to be a battle and we need to be up for it far more than we have been.
If Tidser wants the fans to get behind the team - give them something to get behind!
“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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Topic Originator: phutupfeet
Date: Fri 28 Feb 12:11
I am really intrigued in the reasoning why folk think launching a ball 60 70 yards is the answer to our problems? We don`t have great headers of a ball. If mcccan or kane happen to win it will just be a flick on to nobody.
So please tell me the answer to why launching the ball, basically reverting to Sunday league style, turning possession into, at best, a 50/50 heading competition. No wonder Scottish football is behind the rest of the world when we complain about our team wanting to keep possession.
Yes, the possession needs to go faster going through the lines, but that takes players taking responsibility, better movement and being braver. That isn`t just on the defence just passing for the sake of it. If options aren`t available, try again rather than launching it and letting them come at us.
Really struggling to come up with a successful side that boots it and chase hoping something might happen
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Fri 28 Feb 12:20
Punting the ball 60 or 70 yards might not be the answer , but we certainly know that this playing it out from the back , with 7 or 8 passes before we get to the half way line isn`t the answer either . As others have said , we`re far too predictable and really need to mix it up.a bit .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 28 Feb 12:55
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 28 Feb 10:08
It`s always interesting to read the analyses of fellow fans` re our current problems and their suggested solutions to overcome them but it`s important to get the facts right in making these assessments.
cammypar 1995 says `Unfortunately we look very similar to the mcpake team who got relegated from this league last time we have no belief or character when times get tough.`
Well, James McPake made mistakes as manager but he wasn`t in post when we got relegated. That was down to Grant and Hughes.
grelin states `Sadly you make a valid point Cammy in that we seem to lack the ability to fight back once we go behind.`
Tidser hasn`t been in post too long and maybe it`s too early to draw too many conclusions but we did come from 1-0 down to meet the Rovers 3-1 a few weeks ago.
Maybe these factual inaccuracies wouldn`t change the fundamental arguments but maybe they illustrate how fans` views can be influenced by impressions rather than hard facts.
What was factually inaccurate about my post ? Did we not completely collapse after losing the opening goal in both games mentioned?
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Fri 28 Feb 12:57)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 28 Feb 12:58
Cammy, I copied and pasted your comment about relegation straight from your post and that`s the only thing I said was inaccurate.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Fri 28 Feb 13:08
Quote:
phutupfeet, Fri 28 Feb 12:11
I am really intrigued in the reasoning why folk think launching a ball 60 70 yards is the answer to our problems? We don`t have great headers of a ball. If mcccan or kane happen to win it will just be a flick on to nobody.
So please tell me the answer to why launching the ball, basically reverting to Sunday league style, turning possession into, at best, a 50/50 heading competition. No wonder Scottish football is behind the rest of the world when we complain about our team wanting to keep possession.
Yes, the possession needs to go faster going through the lines, but that takes players taking responsibility, better movement and being braver. That isn`t just on the defence just passing for the sake of it. If options aren`t available, try again rather than launching it and letting them come at us.
Really struggling to come up with a successful side that boots it and chase hoping something might happen
Playing possession based football with players not used to it , or not capable of it is a minus right away.
Add that our pitch is like a bog ,and uneven bounces everywhere, knocking it about at the back is asking for trouble , even Queens last home stopped playing out because of the pitch.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 28 Feb 14:12
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cammypar 1995, Fri 28 Feb 07:11
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PARrot, Thu 27 Feb 19:49
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saltonsgonagetu, Thu 27 Feb 19:02
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PARrot, Thu 27 Feb 18:56
Given that there is a good chance we are going to need these guys to win a relegation playoff, and lots of them are likely to be away next season.
I don`t think it is a smart idea to keep telling them you want rid.
If they are pissed off enough they just might give us a parting gift that we don`t want.
Just like the last time.
It only takes one or two of them.
If they are worried about what is put
on a football forum ,and decide to play accordingly then professional football is not for them.
Secondly that`s assuming they are good enough to chose to win or lose .
Ok, so if they can`t take constantly being told that they are not wanted, then professional football may not be for some of them.
You may be right.
How does that affect them if they are leaving and they feel like giving us the bird on the way out.
I really don`t know if any of this squad would do that, but I have always believed some of the last lot did exactly that.
If you feel you are being short-changed, you are perfectly entitled to vent.
I just don`t think it is wise to be too heavy.
I really think the wise thing to do just now is to get behind them and try to boost their confidence.
I may be completely wrong, but given human nature, I could be right.
wettingoff the very people you need to perform for you just isn`t smart.
To counterbalance that is it productive to tell them everything is alright? Most of these guys were murder under mcpake and so far have continued in the same way under Tidser. Its clear that most of these players won`t get a gig any higher than the level they are at now.
Mcpake got the bullet mainly due to his recruitment and giving new deals to guys who were relegated last time they were in these waters.
I don`t think regardless of the outcome this season we will sack tidser until after the summer window has come and gone. Although summer will be massive for him. He needs to make sure recruitment is on point to avoid the same fate as mcpake. He also needs to look at himself, it`s very rare a manager changes his style or philosophy although a good example would be David Gray at Hibs. He was seen as a certainty to be the next manager to go until he changed his style to suit the squad at his disposal and now I think they are something like 14 unbeaten and stick ones for top sox at least. Survival is imperative for the clubs future considering the eye watering losses that you can receive in league 1. Change the style to try and stay up then try to implement your own way of playing in the summer when you can bring in players who will play that way.
This squad lacks character and it`s been clear all too often this season. 2 great examples where Hamilton on Tuesday where if it finishes 2 or 3 I don`t think it would have flattered Hamilton just after they scored they hit the post and were creating chances at will because we collapsed. The other example is the Airdrie away game we went 1 down to a team who at the time of the game had won 1 game previously and that was opening day of the season. Again went 1 down and couldn`t get a reaction out of the team against at that time the worst team in the league.
The worrying thing is we don`t back ourselves to get back into the game once going behind. That isn`t a trait we want when we are in a relegation dog fight. Unfortunately we look very similar to the mcpake team who got relegated from this league last time we have no belief or character when times get tough. Missing kane is massive for us but we know he will miss a fair amount of games season after season and we need to dig deeper to find a way around the problems. There are probably only 3 maybe 4 players who if we lost I`d be worried about. And 2 of them are just in the door and I think regardless of our status next season will not be here next season.
No. You are correct. Criticism is necessary to facilitate improvement.
There is a world of difference between constructive criticism and abuse, though.
All I am saying is maybe we can voice our frustrations and disappointments without calling folk wage thieves and saying we can`t wait to be rid of them. That can only end badly. There is no need for it.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Fri 28 Feb 14:30
There`s a difference between criticising your players in public and doing it privately in the group. Some players also react better to different approaches. The best managers nowadays take that into account.
Of course, the .net rule is that if you`re not mentally bullet-proof as a player, you shouldn`t be playing football, so there is that.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Fri 28 Feb 14:33
Pay close attention to his interview after Hamilton.
He was actually advocating mixing up the play when needed and is bemoaning the lack of ‘character’ in the team to take the bull by the horn, something we are all crying out for as fans.
This notion that they have to strictly play a certain style for 90 minutes is nonsense. That’s down to the players on the park and I’d say lack of leadership in all areas of the park.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 28 Feb 14:46
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Fri 28 Feb 14:33
Pay close attention to his interview after Hamilton.
He was actually advocating mixing up the play when needed and is bemoaning the lack of ‘character’ in the team to take the bull by the horn, something we are all crying out for as fans.
This notion that they have to strictly play a certain style for 90 minutes is nonsense. That’s down to the players on the park and I’d say lack of leadership in all areas of the park.
People hear what they want to hear.
It’s a big game tomorrow and I have to be honest and say the conditions will suit Morton. They will deliberately make it a scrappy and physical game.
Be prepared for lots of “dark arts” from our friends from the west.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Fri 28 Feb 15:06
I really want masses of slide tackles, hard challenges, fight, desire, not to be bullied, and general rough housing of Morton.
Time to take off the nice guy gloves and rip into them.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Fri 28 Feb 15:21
He said himself we’re to pedestrian.
Players have to make decisions themselves when on the park. I’d like someone to beat a man, get the defender in the back foot and make them defend for once. Even someone to make a brave pass and o real the lines.
Passing it around at a snails pace while the opposition defend just doesn’t work. Were to easy to defend against.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 1 Mar 14:13
Starting XI
Oluwayemi
Comrie
Benedictus
Chilokoa-Mullen
Raymond
Otoo
Oakley-Boothe
Stevens
Young
Yeboah
McCann
HOGARTH (GK), NGWENYA, HAMILTON, CHALMERS, FOGARTY, WOTHERSPOON, KANE, O`HALLORAN, TAYLOR-CLARKE
Kane makes the bench
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Topic Originator: AveragePar
Date: Sat 1 Mar 14:20
McCann again!?!?!!?!!?
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 1 Mar 14:20
Of all the players to drop for poor performances, Kieran Ngwenya is about as close to the bottom as you can get. McCann and Yeboah somehow still starting is wild. At least Upung is getting a start and Comrie is back, although Chris Hamilton was absolutely fine there on Tuesday.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 1 Mar 14:27
McCann starting because we don’t have much else unfortunately. Hopefully Kane gets 15-20 minutes.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 1 Mar 14:32
How both McCann and yeboah start today is beyond me.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 1 Mar 14:33
Ah the big headless chicken and the fast headless chicken start…
Doesn’t bode well. Why drop ngwenya? He’s been half decent. That loan slot should have been used to actually improve the areas of the team which are needed.
Wonder how interested Oakley boothe will be today?
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:08
Ayr 1-0 Airdrie
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:25
Hamilton 0-1 Falkirk
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:26
``Why drop ngwenya? He’s been half decent``
I think he`s been poor recently. Poor defensively. Quite slow
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:27
Airdrie and Hamilton losing. Big chance here.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:31
Rovers 0-1 Queens Park
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:32
How many times have we had big chances before Bertie ?
We never seem to take them when they are there
Hopefully today will be different though
Cmon Ye Pars
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:35
1 nil Morton FFS
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:36
Goal Morton. Sigh. Cracking ball in my Moffat, lovely glancing header and Tobi - who has already made two great saves - had no chance.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:36
shocking defending
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:37
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kelty_par, Sat 1 Mar 15:36
Goal Morton. Sigh. Cracking ball in my Moffat, lovely glancing header and Tobi - who has already made two great saves - had no chance.
No one touched it, went straight in from the cross.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:37
Betting on us losing and not scoring is honestly easy money nowadays. Brutal
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:38
The good news is i can just switch the tv off to stop the torture.
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:41
Feels like an age ago we won a game. We never seem to score now and you get muck like that defending. Relegation staring us in the eye
Effe
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:42
Im sat in the Norrie. I don`t get to games as often as I`d like because of work. Rain hail shine Pars are my team. I get frustrations. But some of the shouts, groans and boos are ****** outrageous. I`m genuinely embarrassed. Opposition teams relish this. I get we have expectations. But ffs.
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:42
Hamilton drawing
Effe
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:45
Tidser/McPake = same thing.
Really disappointing.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:46
Folk have had enough 87Par. I stayed away today because I knew I would end up losing it today.
This is many years of frustration. It`s a disgrace how our club have been run into the ground. Terrible recruitment a judgement by the people at the top
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:47
sad to say ,we are so bad
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:47
5 and a half games without scoring.
Totally shocking stuff.
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Topic Originator: ubisanman
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:48
On the plus side, at least Ned Lasso`s Rangers are getting pumped at home by Motherwell!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:50
Accies lead Falkirk 2-1
Ayr have put 3 past Airdrie
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Zimbo
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:52
Nae tippy tappy p!sh this week. Just p!sh.
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Topic Originator: evo!
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:52
Amazing how far we have regressed from of all things, lasts saturday. The low bar of last week I`d now welcome
BEAST!
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:52
We get worse every match. Scunnered
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:53
Morton deserve to be ahead. Have been the better and more composed side. They are getting way too much time to get the heads up and play a pass in behind us.
We have no creativity in the team and I can’t see where a goal is coming from, unless it’s a mistake.
At least I’m not freezing my nuts off. It’s not too cold today
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Sat 01 Mar 15:54)
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:54
So 500 minutes without a goal - awful times to be a pars fan really feels like the late 70s early 80s all over again . Which muppet thought appointing Tidser was the way ahead.
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Topic Originator: Swisspar
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:56
I was a bit bemused about Morton`s free kick,(which led to the goal) Pars player was assaulted, but awarded against him.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 1 Mar 15:57
Have to agree we seem to be getting worse instead of getting better !
Certainly hope we can turn things around in the second half but it will need a miracle and probably 2 own goals because our Team couldn`t score in a Brothel and that`s being kind to them
almost 4pm and already well and truly Pi55ed off again , as it stands looks like another Saturday night spoilt again
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:00
The more I see of this team the poorer they get.
Another 45 mins with nothing created.
As bad as it gets.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:00
I just can’t beleive with all the players who have been brought in since January we haven’t brought in a single one with any creativity in the middle of the park.
Yet again too many untried youngsters and our experienced players are league 1 standard.
It’s like when we played Kelty in the cup, except this time Morton are the championship team and we’re the league 1 side.
You would take 9th just now even though we would struggle to stay up through them. Loads of players going through the motions and some of them are here next year so there’s no excuse. Those out of contract are defo already thinking about where in league 1 they will be playing next season.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:01
Tidser and the Park bench data analysis looking like a disaster already.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:09
Game over man,Game over!
6 points behind 8th (as it stands) and a string of rock solid games ahead of us.
Let`s pray that Airdrie don`t catch up with us,then we`ll at least have a chance in the playoff.
Utter sham.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:10
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 01 Mar 16:11)
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:12
There seems to be a lot of stupid people running our club.
Making howling decision after howling decision
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:15
I`m amazed Yeboah is still out there. Morton are ignoring him completely to double up on Young and/or Stevens as they know Yeboah will just give them it back anyway and is no danger. Get O`Halloran or Kane or someone on who they`ll have to actually think about.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:15
Airdrie a goal back against Ayr
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 01 Mar 16:16)
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:18
Honestly starting to wonder if Yeboah has a must play clause in his contract. Why would keep starting him. His brutal.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:19
Well done, Lewis
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:19
Kane!
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:20
Yes Kane. If only we could keep him fit.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:20
Yeeeha
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:21
McCann`s on fire.
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:22
Holey crap a goal
Effe
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:22
Was just about to post a mammoth rant about the worst sub I`ve seen for many a year. No issue with bringing Kane on of course but to take Young off and keep Yeboah on is just lunacy. Luckily we`ve scored and might well get something from the game... if we lose (and of course we still might) that sub could have finished Tidser off in the eyes of many.
Good work by McCann for the goal (as poor as his general play can be, he always works his socks off and is capable of creating things out of nothing) and a proper strikers run and finish by Kane. Maybe a bit of luck as it somehow sneaked in off the post and possibly the goalkeeper but the fact he was there to get something on it shows how important he is to the team.
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Topic Originator: pars no1
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:27
Bene sent off
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:27
Bene sent off
Effe
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:27
Mon Pars
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: AveragePar
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:27
Deserved red?
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:28
What happened?
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Clapham Par
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:28
Wow that is a terrible decision. Bene clearly played the ball away.
Unfortunately replays only showed the arguements and not the tackle.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:28
Thought he won the ball there. But it`s all of his making. Standing much deeper than Chilokoa-Mullen to cover his lack.of pace, and caught out more than once.
Probably happy if we can hold onto a point now which is a gut punch as we looked like we might go on to win.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:30
Queen’s Park belting rovers by 4 goals
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:36
Least you can’t tippy tappy around defence if you have one less defender- or can they
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:37
Goallllllll
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:38
Hahaha, mental😂
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:39
Chris kane can have my kids honestly
COYP
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:39
Holy feck!!!!
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:39
What a guy
Effe
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:39
Quote:
shellypar, Sat 1 Mar 16:39
Chris kane can have my kids honestly
He can have mine too but he`ll probably send them back 😂
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:40
😂
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: AveragePar
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:40
Now all we need is Falkirk to comeback
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:40
Pick it out. Superb centre forward play. Gave the defender a nudge and lashed it in
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Sat 01 Mar 16:41)
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:41
We`d be Donald Ducked without Chris Kane
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:42
Brilliant!
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Topic Originator: ubisanman
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:44
Quote:
AveragePar, Sat 1 Mar 16:40
Now all we need is Falkirk to comeback
Currently watching the Falkirk.match via my Firestick. Never been willing Falkirk in before! They`re giving it a good go!
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Topic Originator: CitizenPar
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:49
Surely if can play Kane, Young and McCann we`ll start to see some movement up the league. Forget Yeboah, he hasn`t shown enough.
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:51
Posted that on the wrong post I was that excited. What a goal from our main man.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:54
Brilliant result !
Well done Pars
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:54
Massive win.
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Topic Originator: ubisanman
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:54
Falkirk score!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:54
Falkirk equalise!
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:54
Quote:
ubisanman, Sat 1 Mar 16:54
Falkirk score!
Cannae believe I`ve just cheered a Falkirk goal
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:55
Falkirk equalise with Hamilton!
2-2
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: AveragePar
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:55
Could be a sliding doors moment for this squad to kick on
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Topic Originator: Parallel Lines
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:56
I feel dirty, need to have a shower. Just fist pumped a Falkirk goal.
I looked for my pet in all the books on animals and birds and then I found it in the Book of Revelations.Marty Feldman
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:57
Massive performance from Kane, 3 points and nice 10 point cushion over Airdrie.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:58
crazy ,half time we were heading for 5 point gap to hamilton ,now only 1 ,well done pars
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 1 Mar 16:58
FT at Hamilton 2-2
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 1 Mar 17:00
That could be a crucial win. Credit to the team for managing to come from behind to do that. It was another poor start to a game but finally under Tidser we showed a bit of backbone. Have to carry this momentum on
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Sat 1 Mar 17:06
That was one of the worst red card decisions I`ve ever seen in my life. Bene clearly won the ball. It wasn`t even a foul, let alone a red card.
Ironically, going down to 10 men may have saved us, because we immediately stopped playing out from the back.
I don`t disagree with Tidser`s basic desire to keep possession, but we have a goalie who can drop a ball on the head of a pin from 70 yards and Kane will win the ball or a free kick about 70% of the time that he`s anywhere near it. McCann is strong in the challenge and can win more than his fair share of high balls. The squad is calling out to have a direct ball as an option at the very least.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 1 Mar 17:15
That was by no means pretty but with everything stacked against that team, they somehow dug that out, so hats aff to the lot of them.
Anyone doubting how important Chris Kane is to this team, well there`s your answer.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Swisspar
Date: Sat 1 Mar 17:25
Silly question, but, can we afford to pay win bonus?
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 1 Mar 17:37
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 1 Mar 17:15
That was by no means pretty but with everything stacked against that team, they somehow dug that out, so hats aff to the lot of them.
Anyone doubting how important Chris Kane is to this team, well there`s your answer.
Don`t think anyone was doubting his importance to the team. The issue is we know what he can do when fit unfortunately that isn`t very often. Good to see him bailing us out today.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 1 Mar 17:37
If we punt it up the park and play in the opposition half, we will always have a chance with Kane on the pitch. We need him for the rest of the season.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 1 Mar 17:47
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sat 1 Mar 17:37
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 1 Mar 17:15
That was by no means pretty but with everything stacked against that team, they somehow dug that out, so hats aff to the lot of them.
Anyone doubting how important Chris Kane is to this team, well there`s your answer.
Don`t think anyone was doubting his importance to the team. The issue is we know what he can do when fit unfortunately that isn`t very often. Good to see him bailing us out today.
I must`ve dreamt reading that he only scores penalties and deflections. Apologies.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 1 Mar 17:48
McCann seemed to step up a gear when Kane came on, he was DRoss up till then!
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sat 1 Mar 17:49
McCann seemed to come alive when Kane came on. Special mention to Comrie. Thought he was excellent. I was right behind the Bene red. Looks like he got the ball as it went off at an angle after the challenge. Hard to tell though
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 1 Mar 18:22
Today shows how vital Chris Kane is to the team. We could do with another 4 or 5 of him! Credit to McCann as well because he seriously upped his game when Kane came on. I would love to see Kane and Young get a string of games together as I seriously think they would provide us much needed goals playing together.
Hopefully Kane can keep himself fit between now and the end of the season as there’s no chance we would have pulled that back without his help. What he can create out of nothing is incredible. I still don’t get why Young was hooked over Yeboah as I fail to see what he brings to the team - but the main thing is we got the victory. Big credit to Tobi as well for making a few decent saves to keep us in the game. Hopefully we can got Falkirk with a fit Chris Kane and a little bit of belief.
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sat 1 Mar 18:23
McCann was my MotM - He was so determined today, never gave up & chased down every ball. Great effort Lewis.
Oakley-Boothe needs a rocket up him. Strolling around in the midfield when we were up against it, there is a player in there but he’s to casual/laid back in his play not quick nor decisive enough.
The play is still not quick enough nor connected, we need to be quicker + more direct.
Showed a bit of character to win it after Bene was sent off.
Heads up Pars we can get out of this!
“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 1 Mar 18:47
Great win , here`s hoping that is the catylst we needed , and we can continue to get results and others around us start losing !
I for one thought when we went 1-0 behind it was here we go again Dunfermline Nil as I didn`t see that coming , I was hoping for 2 own goals to get the win as I didnt think we had anyone that could put it in the back of the net , how wrong was I , So a big well done Boys , My saturday night isn`t crap now
Cmon Ye pars
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 1 Mar 18:48
A word too for Chris Hamilton who didn`t put a foot wrong after coming on. Fogarty was fine too. Definitely an argument that Benedictus was needing dropped anyway. Will see how we fare without him next week (we can possibly appeal the red card but I can`t see it being overturned).
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 1 Mar 18:51
First half was a pretty brutal watch, the pitch is horrendous.
Nice to see us play a bit more direct and credit to Tidser for making that change, the pitch may have forced his hand but glad he changed it. First half though it didn’t work but paid dividends in the second.
Was baffled at the booing when Kane was subbed on for Young, it was exactly the right substitution, and Kane showed why we absolutely need him fit.
When Kane came on, McCann looked a different person, which was positive in terms of the match but not sure why it took that for him to get into gear.
Kane MoM for obvious reasons.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sat 1 Mar 19:05
Kane so important but a shout out for Comrie winning that important header which led to the goal. Good to see him with the armband too.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 1 Mar 19:07
I don’t think anyone was booing Kane coming on it was the fact that Young was subbed instead of Yeboah. In the end, we got the much needed victory and it ended up being the right decision. As I said earlier, I’d love to see Young and Kane upfront together in the future.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 1 Mar 19:07
Could someone change the title please ? It’s doing ma heid in lol
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Robboguru
Date: Sat 1 Mar 19:07
Massive result. Showed character and I hope this gives the lads confidence. Great finishes by Kane. Striker that knows what runs to make. COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 1 Mar 19:11
First half was dug meat. We were far too narrow and it played right into Morton’s hands. Tobi however played well that half, couple of important saves.
2nd half change of formation helped give us width, a bit of space and then our pace overwhelmed them. Even after Bene going off we were the better team on the whole.
COYP
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sat 1 Mar 19:14
Genuinely, no idea why there was booing of the substitution. I didn`t think Young had done anything to warrant staying on.
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Sat 1 Mar 19:24
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Sat 1 Mar 19:14
Genuinely, no idea why there was booing of the substitution. I didn`t think Young had done anything to warrant staying on.
The boos were directed at the decision to substitute Young while leaving Yeboah on the pitch. Personally, I fail to see what Yeboah contributes to the team, yet he consistently gets game time. At no point was Kane subjected to the boos. I love Kane and the value he brings to the squad; his unwavering grit and determination make him a formidable challenge for defenders. I relish his presence on the field, as I firmly believe that with him, our chances of success significantly increase. Therefore, we must protect him at all costs and ensure his return for Saturday`s match. Wrap him in bubble wrap.
Lesley King, during his struggles with injuries, refrained from training throughout the week, relying exclusively on cycling and swimming due to the limitations of his knee. Yet when Saturday arrived, he would grace the pitch as an exceptional defender. Had it not been for his injuries, I believe he would have been regarded as one of the best defenders in the world. I feel that a similar approach should be adopted with Kane—allow him to recuperate during the week and let him shine on Saturdays
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sat 1 Mar 19:27
That`s a good win. Morton had slightly the better of a scrappy first half and we had the better of the second half.
Kane coming on obviously made a huge difference, but I hope people also noted the change in Lewis McCann from then on. He was allowed to be the bustling, aggressive forward that he can be good at playing, and did really well to force that space and play the ball in for the equaliser.
The winner was beautiful - great centre forward play from Kane to do enough to get the better of the defender without it being enough for the ref to give a foul. And a great finish from there when he got the ball at his feet.
We were more direct today which was a welcome change, though in truth it wasn`t much more coherent than the other style until the changes later on. With Kane and McCann on the park together, there probably is a credible direct option but without either there doesn`t seem to be one.
I`m 50/50 on the sending off. I`m pretty sure he got the ball pretty cleanly but was it one of those where the ref is justified in giving a free kick even if the player does win the ball? Maybe. If he gives a foul there, he has to go.
The reaction to the sub seemed a bit weird to me. Young hadn`t really been in the game much so I didn`t have any problem with it. Unless he was going to play wide there wasn`t much point in him staying on.
Well done to the defenders who finished the game and did enough to get us the win. Morton were very poor in the second half, but even when we were a man short we didn`t really look like giving it away. Chris Hamilton has had a tough time recently, so really pleased to see him play so well at centre half when he came on and make a big contribution to his team winning the game.
I`m also pleased for the manager. I`ve been pretty critical of him recently, but his main job is to get a few non-beautiful wins and he managed that today. His team showed a lot of determination to get through a tough game and get the points and that`ll do for me.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sat 1 Mar 19:50
Exactly, Yeboah was out wide and pretty ineffective, Young was through the middle and anonymous.
Seemed sensible to me that if Kane was coming on, Young was the one to go.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 1 Mar 20:03
McCann and Stevens wide with Young and Kane through the middle seemed the obvious change. Not only was Yeboah ineffective, Morton were ignoring him meaning that they were able to double up elsewhere. Young has been treated pretty poorly overall I`d say. He`s seen Yeboah in particular start ahead of him in games and been taken off before Yeboah in others. Unless there`s some kind of "must play" clause, that makes no sense to me. Not only does Young look more intelligent, a better finisher and a willing presser, he`s our player who we have invested in.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sat 1 Mar 20:06
I`m not a fan of Yeboah but Young did nothing to warrant staying on either.
Yeboah did almost score from outside the box just before the substitution was made and linked up a bit better with Andre as the 2nd half progressed.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sat 1 Mar 20:10
Quote:
Angus_W, Sat 1 Mar 18:23
Oakley-Boothe needs a rocket up him. Strolling around in the midfield when we were up against it, there is a player in there but he’s to casual/laid back in his play not quick nor decisive enough.
Totally agree with this. Needs to work a lot harder for his team mates. I lost count of the number of times he should have been taking up better positions or giving players around him a chance to find him. Or driving forward with the ball instead of laying off a safe pass. Was like a man short at times.
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Topic Originator: JimDAFC
Date: Sat 1 Mar 20:26
I have not been for a few weeks to east end because I don`t like driving in the dark so much now as it takes me about 1 hour to get home. Anyway the first half we looked like a team hurriedly assembled and we struggled to link up. The second half was much the same until Kane came on and it was not only McCann who got a lift but I thought the whole team started to believe we could get something out of this game and this belief increased after Kane scored his first goal. It was a shame Bene was sent off but we held on and the players that came on did really well especially Hamilton, thought the newest signing from St Johnstone did well also. So well done Pars you showed today you can fight to get a result so although we are not playing that well if we all work our socks of you can often get a result with hard work and commitment.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 1 Mar 22:40
Agree on Oakley-boothe, seems to have lost the hunger alongside a possible attitude problem which is why he’s working his way back down from a better standard of football.
He’d run riot in this league if he felt like it. When he goes missing it’s like we’re a man down.
McCann gave us the 1 in 6 good performance today, if we can squeeze the same out of him another 3-4 times this season and keep Kane fit we can get out of this.
Will be some surprise results as the top 3 feel the heat in the battle to go up, hopefully we can pick up some unexpected results
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Topic Originator: Hunter78
Date: Sun 2 Mar 09:40
Quote:
kelty_par, Sat 1 Mar 18:48
A word too for Chris Hamilton who didn`t put a foot wrong after coming on. Fogarty was fine too. Definitely an argument that Benedictus was needing dropped anyway. Will see how we fare without him next week (we can possibly appeal the red card but I can`t see it being overturned).
It absolutely will be overturned
Post Edited (Sun 02 Mar 09:40)
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 2 Mar 09:40
Just seen a video. Never a red card. Can we appeal?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Sun 2 Mar 10:22
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 2 Mar 09:40
Just seen a video. Never a red card. Can we appeal?
Where is the video ?
It was difficult to make out what happened from the Norrie .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sun 2 Mar 13:42
No chance of it getting overturned unless there`s an angle from behind the goals Hunter78. The footage does make it look an awful lot like Benedictus got the ball first as we all thought at the time but it isn`t 100% conclusive. Unless the referee admits he made a mistake then that angle on it`s own won`t be enough.
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Sun 2 Mar 15:10
This was what I would call a “normal” game – sometimes you win, sometime you don`t - not a lot between the sides in terms of quality, but we scored more goals. It should happen a lot more, but we’ve succumbed too easily too often this season which is why we are where we are.
It was certainly a big improvement on Tuesday which was appalling for several reasons:
• The result
• The performance
• MT’s stubbornness in persisting with tactics that haven’t worked
• His inexperience in delivering his post-match comments (which weren’t as bad as I’d feared but nevertheless prompted him to feel the need to apologise)
The injury crisis seems to have lifted a little – MOH and Comrie back, but no sign of Todd, Cooper, KRH or Mehmet. Kane is being treated with kid gloves, with an individual warm-up routine. We even had Clay on the pitch pre-match but he was not needed to fill the bench. Can we assume Hogarth’s emergency loan has been extended? Why have we had so many injuries recently? Did they let their fitness slide under McPake? Are they being trained too hard? Or is just one of those things that happens later in the season?
It looked like a 4-1-2-3 to begin with, but with Otoo lying deep this time and Stevens more central with Oakley-Boothe, meaning McCann started on the right. Young started as principal striker. MT seems to like to make tweaks more in terms of changing the shape and players swapping wings. This was one gripe I had with McPake – he promised us that he wouldn’t leave his striker isolated but that seems exactly what happened more often than not. It may not be the modern way but I like to see striking partnerships.
The standard of the loanees has been mixed (as it was last season). Is the idea to buy in bulk and hope that there is one diamond amongst the dross? Recruitment is not making the case for the power of analytics so far. JCM looks good but he’ll have a tough job next week without Bene alongside. Although it’s arguable Bene’s reduced mobility now outweighs his experience. TOB looks to have time on the ball but doesn’t do anything with it. This could be due to a lack of options. Stevens is good, but there is little end product to date. Again, the lack of movement or expectation may be a problem, although not one that Young will have developed. Raymond came onto a game after an understandably shaky start – he looked better going forward.
I thought that there may have been mixed messages on Tuesday – pussyfoot about at the back (I’m paraphrasing) and create chances. Do what you’re told but take responsibility. It all looked a bit incoherent. So you could almost feel the relief when Tobi hit the first goal-kick down the park. If not belief, this at least gave us hope.
Post Edited (Sun 02 Mar 15:10)
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Sun 2 Mar 15:11
I thought Bene got the ball (and that the player was off-side, although it’s quite possible I’m wrong on the latter as Bene is a bit slow and tends to stand a bit deeper so Is vulnerable to the well-timed run. Kane’s second reminded me of a goal Brewster scored (against Killie, possibly) when I was sure the ref would blow for a foul, but he was simply stronger. Elsewhere, there aren’t a lot of goals in that side. at least we created a few chances this week and showed some desire.
And having messed up setting my stop-watch for the second half, I had only the vaguest of ideas about how long there was left to go at any point, but to be fair, we weren’t clinging on too much.
However, the match does demonstrate that accidents can happen – a freak goal and a dodgy red-card could cost the game, and in a play-off that could be terminal. I’d rather not risk it.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 2 Mar 15:23
Good summary mccaigs. Indeed the red card for efe was the beginning of the end for us the last time we lost our place in this league.
Agree on the loans, it’s scattergun on players who have never played. A 25% success rate in terms of them having a positive impact must be seen as worth it. I’d wager o’hallaran or KRH would be a better option than yeboah going by what we have seen to date.
We have one more loan slot so here’s hoping a quality midfielder is brought in this week.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 2 Mar 15:40
Is the loan window not closed now?
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 2 Mar 15:40
as someone mentioned some refs may have given a freekick against Kane leading up to the goal.
Maybe he realised his possible mistake with Bene and let Kanes goal stand .
Im not saying Kanes challenge was a foul ,but maybe in a weird way Benes sending off helped us in the end .
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sun 2 Mar 15:47
Yeah, believe the SPFL loan window has closed now, barring emergency loans. Can only sign free agents now dependent on when they left their club
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 2 Mar 20:23
I don’t think we’ll see anyone else in and I don’t think we need anyone else.
Team needs to settle and gel. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
I’ve a bit more belief in us now tbh. Hopefully Tidser gets his tactics right more often than not
COYP
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 2 Mar 20:30
We won which was great…we can’t rely on an injury prone striker to do everything!
If Kane doesn’t start against Falkirk next week then we are stuffed..we beat a Morton team that on paper are *****….
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 2 Mar 20:46
Which paper`s that? Before the match they were 7 points above us with a game in hand and everyone was saying what a great job Dougie Imrie does with the resources he has. Every time we get a decent result somebody will come on here and say `Aye, but...`.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 2 Mar 21:54
Oh here comes wee eck who likes to be a bawbag with winding people up.
My post stated If Kane doesn’t play against Falkirk….but who cares as you have appeared blah blah!
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 2 Mar 22:23
I queried your opinion that Morton are *****. What`s your evidence? Are you incapable of having a civil discussion with anyone on here?
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Mon 3 Mar 09:11
Morton were on an impressive unbeaten run, yet they have now suffered three consecutive defeats. From what I remember , they tend to experience a phase of consecutive matches where they gain points.
What I must say is our remarkable ability to get the win despite being reduced to ten men; it was a testament to our resilience and fighting spirit. Which we’ve rarely seen this season.
Falkirk has conceded only one home defeat in the league this season, while we have secured just one win away. Achieving a draw would be a good outcome. However , I hope we can surprise them, get the three points and postpone or stop their aspirations of clinching the league title.
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Mon 3 Mar 09:40
5 games in 14 days doesn`t help them either
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Mon 3 Mar 10:01
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sun 2 Mar 20:30
We won which was great…we can’t rely on an injury prone striker to do everything!
If Kane doesn’t start against Falkirk next week then we are stuffed..we beat a Morton team that on paper are *****….
Don`t see much wrong with this post tbh .
The 1st half on Saturday was complete guff , and the 2nd half started the same way . Only when Kane came on did we have any threat at all . The odd result here and there may not be enough for us , so it seems to me we will be relying on Kane to play as many games as possible in the run-in .
Well done on Saturday , but I`m struggling to remember when we last strung 2 good results together .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 3 Mar 10:28
I didn`t see much wrong with it either apart from the statement that `we beat a Morton team that on paper are *****….` As I said, they were 7 points ahead of us with a game in hand before Saturday`s match. I don`t recall anyone saying they were ***** before the game.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Mon 3 Mar 11:28
Only going by the highlights we were lucky that Morton weren`t 2 or 3 goals ahead at half time. Tobi had some really good saves to keep us in with a chance.Full credit for going a man down and winning .
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 3 Mar 14:49
I think it`s already been said, but being a man down sort of helped us from what I can see on the highlights. Rather than slow build up we were going for long balls up the pitch and hoping for a smash and grab. Not saying that`s the solution but it worked on Saturday and it worked earlier in the season too. Possession football is great if you can do it right - having more of the ball means less chance for the opposition to do anything. However, it`s only any good if you can get through that final third. We saw it a fair few times that the team would get into that final third but by that point Morton had half the team camped in the box to knock shots back or deflect them away.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Mon 3 Mar 17:03
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jake89, Mon 3 Mar 14:49
I think it`s already been said, but being a man down sort of helped us from what I can see on the highlights. Rather than slow build up we were going for long balls up the pitch and hoping for a smash and grab. Not saying that`s the solution but it worked on Saturday and it worked earlier in the season too. Possession football is great if you can do it right - having more of the ball means less chance for the opposition to do anything. However, it`s only any good if you can get through that final third. We saw it a fair few times that the team would get into that final third but by that point Morton had half the team camped in the box to knock shots back or deflect them away.
pihs. Being a man down never helped us. Kane coming on did.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 3 Mar 18:31
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DJAS, Mon 3 Mar 17:03
Quote:
jake89, Mon 3 Mar 14:49
I think it`s already been said, but being a man down sort of helped us from what I can see on the highlights. Rather than slow build up we were going for long balls up the pitch and hoping for a smash and grab. Not saying that`s the solution but it worked on Saturday and it worked earlier in the season too. Possession football is great if you can do it right - having more of the ball means less chance for the opposition to do anything. However, it`s only any good if you can get through that final third. We saw it a fair few times that the team would get into that final third but by that point Morton had half the team camped in the box to knock shots back or deflect them away.
pihs. Being a man down never helped us. Kane coming on did.
That too but tippy-tappy playing it to midfield, back to defence, back to midfield was getting us nowhere.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 3 Mar 19:41
We`ve got the breaks in just about every League game we`ve won - a sending-off, penalties, a deflected shot in two games against the Rovers. We only beat Livi because they didn`t turn up and PT were knackered after playing 3 games in 8 days when we beat them 4-1. Now on Saturday we got the ultimate lucky break - we had a man sent off! I`m worried what`s going to happen when our luck runs out! 😀😀😀
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 3 Mar 19:49
I kind of get that we might not have won with 11 men.
Yes Kane made an immense impact as I stated on a thread I started but also the sending off forced us to go more route one which may well have contributed to our second goal.
But, had Kane not been on that park, we would have got nothing from it.
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