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 Wanyama ???
Topic Originator: Par Dan  
Date:   Tue 8 Apr 00:07

Such a strange signing . He’s no where near fit.
He was limping all over the place on Saturday .
It makes me worried about the direction we are going down with the new owners.
Getting relegated and nuking the squad will probably work better for us than if we stay up and these guys go daft at it! I fear that big time.

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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Tue 8 Apr 07:25

The squad is getting nuked either way.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: SAP PAR  
Date:   Tue 8 Apr 07:56

He was a gamble paid for by a gambling company. It hasn’t worked yet but who’s to say he won’t score the winner in the last game of the season to keep us up. It’s not over till it’s over!
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Topic Originator: Par Dan  
Date:   Tue 8 Apr 15:55

I’ll go on record right now and say that definitely won’t happen. He is absolutely done as a player.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Tue 8 Apr 17:37

I don’t think we’ll see Wanyama in a Pars top again this season.

He’s purely using us for fitness purposes. He won’t be in any shape to play this season and shouldn’t have come on against Ayr. I do wonder if Clay would have made a difference in that game if he had came on.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 8 Apr 19:29

Wonder if Blind Pew did the medical pre signing

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Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Tue 8 Apr 20:08

Jeez some folk on here’s glass isn’t half empty it’s completely broken and smashed to pieces!

Can we not just hope for the best and see what happens without throwing dirt on everyone else’s jammy piece?

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Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Tue 8 Apr 21:04

Wanyama hasn’t played competitive football in 9 months..did you see the state of him against Ayr? A good publicity stunt to defer anything of Lennon.

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Topic Originator: coventrypar  
Date:   Tue 8 Apr 23:04

He embarrassed himself and the club when coming on at Ayr. We would have been better asking a pars fan to pay some money for 19 minutes on the park.

It was like a 50 year old boxer to come back in the ring.

We got good press and it seems it has been paid by our new sponsors but #ShitTheBed

Just for the record, I sponsored Noel Whelan`s shirt and he lasted 14 minutes

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Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Wed 9 Apr 08:26

Sure Whelan only lasted about 2 minutes?😂
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Topic Originator: coventrypar  
Date:   Wed 9 Apr 08:48

Sorry typo … I meant to say 4 mins

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 18 Apr 15:49

Victor has one fan at least! Wesley Lim, a young guy from Singapore, was visiting the UK and loved VW when he played for Spurs. Knowing he had signed for the Pars, he came to the Sponsors event to meet him! There`s an interview with him on Youtube.

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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Fri 18 Apr 16:29

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parathletic, Wed 9 Apr 08:26

Sure Whelan only lasted about 2 minutes?😂


Still gives me nightmares 😱

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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Fri 18 Apr 17:34

Think he was brought in as a bit of a morale boost, bit of a standard setter (similar to Paul McGowan when McPake brought him in) and with an eye to next year if we stay up. Wouldn`t be a massive shock if we gave him a year or even two. Let him get fit and a pre season under him and he`d be more than useful next season.

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Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Fri 18 Apr 20:40

Fair play to the guy for taking the time to go down to the Pars Foundation kids football camp today - my wee boy was very pleased to get an autograph
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Topic Originator: Par Dan  
Date:   Fri 18 Apr 21:22

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wee eck, Fri 18 Apr 15:49

Victor has one fan at least! Wesley Lim, a young guy from Singapore, was visiting the UK and loved VW when he played for Spurs. Knowing he had signed for the Pars, he came to the Sponsors event to meet him! There`s an interview with him on Youtube.


Stuff like this is class
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Topic Originator: Parallel Lines  
Date:   Fri 18 Apr 21:35

A fit Wanyama next season plus Lennon and a compete clear out could be interesting

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Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Fri 18 Apr 22:24

Good on Wanyama going to the Pars Foundation course today but the 6,7,8 and 10 year olds won’t have a clue who he is😅

Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown  
Date:   Fri 18 Apr 22:25

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P, Fri 18 Apr 20:40

Fair play to the guy for taking the time to go down to the Pars Foundation kids football camp today - my wee boy was very pleased to get an autograph


Love hearing things like this. Superb
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton  
Date:   Fri 18 Apr 22:27

I was at Hampden last week and he looked good when he came on for a short while.

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Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Fri 18 Apr 22:29

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Alter Ego, Fri 18 Apr 22:24

Good on Wanyama going to the Pars Foundation course today but the 6,7,8 and 10 year olds won’t have a clue who he is😅


All the more reason for a guy who has a super short contract and no reason not to connect with the fan base not to bother - but did.

Also I can’t be the only one seeing local business owners on social media posing with Neil Lennon.

It’s been an utterly miserable period supporting the Pars with a total disconnect between fans and club for years but now we have the 2 biggest names associated with the club in years out there and promoting the club….maybe something is happening 🤞
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Topic Originator: Pars232  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 08:30

Yip I agree with you P. I`ve never particularly connected to Lennon, but accept he has brought something new to the club and I`m intrigued as to what this may lead to. It`s positive for the city too.

The disconnect between club and fans was evident when the Germans were here. This is a pivotal point in the clubs progression, I really hope this works out for us
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Topic Originator: Paralytic77  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 12:15

Wanyama when fit will absolutely be head and shoulders above anyone in this league, we just got to give him time
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 12:44

^This. I doubt he`ll be here next season though. Footballers like money,and we can`t pay him the wages he would want.

Maybe I`m wrong.

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 18:31

I’m unconvinced. I know he’s unfit just now and trying to get the fitness back but I reckon he would be too much of a gamble to offer him a decent enough contract to stay. Feels like we’ll have a good 11 next year then maybe some youngsters etc on the bench, his what would be substantial wage could be better spent elsewhere me thinks.

He’s 33 going on 40 out there.

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Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 18:33

I thought he was awful today. If that’s him getting match fit. God help us all. Need better for next season
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Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 18:58

Yes, I have to agree with the above comments. The Wanyama man was way off it.

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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 19:07

Hopefully he’s not here next season. He is nowhere near good enough anymore, can’t run, can’t tackle and can’t pass. Enjoy your retirement in the summer.

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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 19:10

More like 40 going on 50 Berkey.

It`s a shame he`s turned out to be such a disappointment after all the initial excitement around him 😞 .

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 19:35

coaching staff maybe ?

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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 19:47

Lets now slag the guy off ,we all see he aint match fit by along way ,but being around the players ,training may be bringing other dividends .Who knows if Lennon stays and he gets a full pre season ,think there was maybe methodvin Lennons madness bringing him in
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Topic Originator: Big G Ball  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 19:52

Superstar posters....... give the guy a break ffs as do any of u clowns know what he is being paid........not a lot tbh

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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 20:03

He was next to useless on the park today.
Overweight and unfit and a headless chicken come to mind.
Not his fault of course but he shouldn’t be putting a Pars top on unless he has a full pre season.

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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 20:08

It took him a wee while to get his top on!

He’s clearly nowhere near match fit and won’t be before the season ends.

I’m sure a match fit Victor would be an asset. Let’s see what happens in the summer.




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Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 20:18

He`s been here for about 3 or 4 weeks has he not? That`s not far off the length of a pre-season already. You would be expecting to see some progress if he has been training hard behind the scenes?
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 20:24

He didn’t kick a ball for months so 3-4 weeks training isn’t going to make any difference….He was brought in as a celeb footballer gimmick and did well taking any pressure off the team.
I could be wrong but I don’t even think he will be on a lot of ££££ but Lennon pal and looking to get fit/back in the game?

Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Hunter78  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 20:25

Yet some experts on here wanted him to start centre forward today 😂😂😂 an absolute shambles of a signing and you’ve got to question every part of this new owner/CEO ability to sign players. 10 in January and 1 passable then this…..quite why anybody’s excited for the summer is beyond me
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 20:27

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parathletic, Sat 19 Apr 20:18

He`s been here for about 3 or 4 weeks has he not? That`s not far off the length of a pre-season already. You would be expecting to see some progress if he has been training hard behind the scenes?


Theres a massive difference between pre season training and business end training. He’s also got no game time to get up to any sort of match fitness (completely different from normal fitness) and trying to do it with the usual suspects online calling him every name under the sun.

Least we have 2 games to go where he can go away, work fully on his fitness and then maybe get a trial run in pre season before any sort of deal is hashed out.
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Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 20:33

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Dave_1885, Sat 19 Apr 20:27

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parathletic, Sat 19 Apr 20:18

He`s been here for about 3 or 4 weeks has he not? That`s not far off the length of a pre-season already. You would be expecting to see some progress if he has been training hard behind the scenes?


Theres a massive difference between pre season training and business end training. He’s also got no game time to get up to any sort of match fitness (completely different from normal fitness) and trying to do it with the usual suspects online calling him every name under the sun.

Least we have 2 games to go where he can go away, work fully on his fitness and then maybe get a trial run in pre season before any sort of deal is hashed out.


I get the match fitness part but folk seemed to be suggesting that he was still overweight which is a different matter. I wasn`t there today so just picking up on what`s been said rather than being able to form my own opinion. Even not playing, with a bit of professionalism you should still be in reasonable shape unless injuries have been hindering him?
It's not as if we have been looking for 90 minutes from him but just to be in a position to make a positive contribution when he comes on.

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Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 20:44

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Big G Ball, Sat 19 Apr 19:52

Superstar posters....... give the guy a break ffs as do any of u clowns know what he is being paid........not a lot tbh


Firstly I’m not a clown. Also I’ve heard rightly or wrongly he’s on an impressive weekly wage
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Topic Originator: Aaron Labonte  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 20:45

Also heard he’s on an outrageous wage from a good source
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 20:57

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Aaron Labonte, Sat 19 Apr 20:45

Also heard he’s on an outrageous wage from a good source


Utter bollocks and I`m confident of the source, completely confident.
Let`s just get this disappointing season done, start the rebuild and ffs try to start enjoying things.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 21:35

Why would the club pay £££ for a player who hasn’t played for months?
His signing was just a good PR job and it worked.

Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 21:38

I have no idea what wage he’s on, but with what we are seeing…there’s going to have to be a massive improvement to even consider him for next season. He looks 10 years older than 33 and if you take the new away, people would be on here and across social media saying how honking he looked.

Crazy how much he has regressed
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 22:13

Again a good PR job by the club…everyone was saying ohhhh Wanyama blah blah but he was about 7 months not playing football and overweight….

Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 22:22

To be fair to the "expert" who suggested he might do a turn as a foil to Chris Kane, he maybe was aware that Wanyama wasn`t up to match sharpness and not too fast over the ground, but thought he might at least get his head to one or two of the high balls being fizzed up to the front line. He would also be less of a danger giving up possession in an advanced area than he was when caught in the last line of defence against Ayr Utd.

Also he couldn`t have done much worse than Yeboa, who being only an 18 year old youth didn`t get his head to one ball and didn`t appear to have the physical strength to avoid being bullied by the Thistle street wise hard men.

And it does occur to me that I can only remember one single shot on target today and that from a midfield player so our front men were hardly incisive.



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Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 22:32

WTF is wrong with you all??
He hasn’t played any football in 8 months and looks like he’s put 2 stone on in weight….no way he going to compete in our team at all for the rest of the games…😳😳

Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Paralytic77  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 22:44

He`s at the pre season stage ffs,no way he has gon from top epl player to compete dud with little serious injuries in the last few years
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Sat 19 Apr 22:54

He`s 6ft 2 and strong,so bang him upfront and see what happens. He can`t do any worse than the young lad Yeboah. Even just using his strength to hold up the ball and hopefully lay it off for Toddy or Cooper to whack it into the top corner.

Needs must n all that, we`re not bursting with options and like someone above said,he`ll do less damage if he gives it away upfront.

Or keep playing Yeboah.

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Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Sun 20 Apr 09:15

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Paralytic77, Sat 19 Apr 22:44

He`s at the pre season stage ffs,no way he has gon from top epl player to compete dud with little serious injuries in the last few years


He joined Spurs in 2016 and played in the first season, for the next 3 seasons he hardly got a game. He was playing in the Celtic team with Scott Brown, Aiden McGeady, Charlie Mulgrew,Efe Ambrose and the likes in 2011. Father time waits for no man, even more so for a combative midfielder who needs to cover ground.We`ve seen rapid decline in players like that before. Roy Keane came up here about the same age and did nothing. Graeme Dorrans was playing in the EPL the same time as Victor. He wasn`t getting in the Kenya or Montreal team so perhaps he has been on the decline for a while?, there didn`t appear to be a host of clubs queuing up?

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Topic Originator: Hunter78  
Date:   Sun 20 Apr 09:20

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Paralytic77, Sat 19 Apr 22:44

He`s at the pre season stage ffs,no way he has gon from top epl player to compete dud with little serious injuries in the last few years


He’s hardly played in years. Terrible signing and whoever authorised it should be seriously questioned, training with Barnet in the conference who wouldn’t sign him tells a story straight away. Blurry eyes on a player from 10 years ago.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton  
Date:   Sun 20 Apr 09:23

Get him out the door asap. Embarrassing how fat and unfit he is.

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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 20 Apr 13:21

He looks like a guy who has won a competition to be in a match day squad and Lennon has brought him on for sentimental value. It`s an embarrassment every time he gets game time.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 20 Apr 13:42

Regardless of fans` opinions of Wanyama, is it likely NL would put him on in each of the last two games, knowing what was at stake, if he didn`t think he could make a contribution?

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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft  
Date:   Sun 20 Apr 14:37

It is an embarrassment giving him game time. Hopefully we’ve seen the last of him. Would rather see any midfielder from the u18s given a go ahead of him, atleast they’d be able to run.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sun 20 Apr 14:54

You’re right it is an embarrassment, he comes on fouls folk and gets cheered for it.

I personally feel he’s become a laughing stock for supporters more than someone who can actually impact the team.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 20 Apr 15:00

So why does NL bring him on knowing what`s at stake? The rest of his selections and subs are pretty cautious.

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Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sun 20 Apr 18:56

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Hunter78, Sat 19 Apr 20:25

Yet some experts on here wanted him to start centre forward today 😂😂😂 an absolute shambles of a signing and you’ve got to question every part of this new owner/CEO ability to sign players. 10 in January and 1 passable then this…..quite why anybody’s excited for the summer is beyond me


Owners that are putting their money where their mouth is and hopefully Neil Lennon running the rule over the signings. Definitely nothing to look forward too…

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Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Sun 20 Apr 19:26

One positive to his signing is that he`s taken a huge amount of attention away from a team of players who have looked well off it for most of this season. Instead of looking at them everyone has been looking at Victor.

Sorry that may sound harsh. I hope he gets fit and can continue to play the game.
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Topic Originator: Hunter78  
Date:   Sun 20 Apr 20:46

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NMCmassive, Sun 20 Apr 18:56

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Hunter78, Sat 19 Apr 20:25

Yet some experts on here wanted him to start centre forward today 😂😂😂 an absolute shambles of a signing and you’ve got to question every part of this new owner/CEO ability to sign players. 10 in January and 1 passable then this…..quite why anybody’s excited for the summer is beyond me


Owners that are putting their money where their mouth is and hopefully Neil Lennon running the rule over the signings. Definitely nothing to look forward too…


Like they did with Tidser and January. Well done the new owners on that rubbish 👏🏽 they seem to have got it right with Lennon but back to square one with VW.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sun 20 Apr 21:04

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Hunter78, Sun 20 Apr 20:46

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NMCmassive, Sun 20 Apr 18:56

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Hunter78, Sat 19 Apr 20:25

Yet some experts on here wanted him to start centre forward today 😂😂😂 an absolute shambles of a signing and you’ve got to question every part of this new owner/CEO ability to sign players. 10 in January and 1 passable then this…..quite why anybody’s excited for the summer is beyond me


Owners that are putting their money where their mouth is and hopefully Neil Lennon running the rule over the signings. Definitely nothing to look forward too…


Like they did with Tidser and January. Well done the new owners on that rubbish 👏🏽 they seem to have got it right with Lennon but back to square one with VW.


Ffs,give the new owners time ,twice they came up with support on short notice ,Capturing Lennon shows we head the right direction from now on ,think you need to go hibernate and give the new owners and hopefully new management team do their work
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton  
Date:   Sun 20 Apr 21:43

Like they did with Tidser and January. Well done the new owners on that rubbish 👏🏽 they seem to have got it right with Lennon but back to square one with VW.


You really are a bundle of joy.FFS

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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Sun 20 Apr 22:13

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Hunter78, Sun 20 Apr 20:46

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NMCmassive, Sun 20 Apr 18:56

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Hunter78, Sat 19 Apr 20:25

Yet some experts on here wanted him to start centre forward today 😂😂😂 an absolute shambles of a signing and you’ve got to question every part of this new owner/CEO ability to sign players. 10 in January and 1 passable then this…..quite why anybody’s excited for the summer is beyond me


Owners that are putting their money where their mouth is and hopefully Neil Lennon running the rule over the signings. Definitely nothing to look forward too…


Like they did with Tidser and January. Well done the new owners on that rubbish 👏🏽 they seem to have got it right with Lennon but back to square one with VW.


So, no credit for correcting the situation?
Ok, gotcha.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: Wanyama ???
Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 13:15

Wanyama clearly is overweight and not yet match fit, and his debut at Ayr was a big disappointment. He was very slow and being ring-rusty gave the ball away a few times before further compounding things by slipping and getting sent off.

However, despite this disaster of a debut, I take a different view to many on here. Like another poster (sorry can`t remember who it was) wrote... When George Best played for Hibs he was not fully fit, but yet he still was the best player on the pitch. When Wanayama came on against QP, while slow, I still thought he did alright and there were flashes of real skill. On one occasion he skilfully outmanoeuvred defenders and put though a nicely weighted accurate through ball. We haven`t been doing enough of that (or playing more creative players like Cooper or even Andy Tod who can do that). His holding up of two or three defenders by the corner flag to run down the clock was enjoyable and reminded me of Nat Wedderburn doing a similar thing at a Dumbarton away game a few seasons ago. Football is not just about winning but also entertainment. While clearly work in progress (with lots to do), he certainly entertained me that day.

It is obviously, harder to evaluate someone from ParsTV (rather than watching live) as you only see part of the pitch. However, from what I saw against Partick Thistle, (while still overweight and slow),he seemed to make a few OK passes. He clearly has lots of work to do (re his weight and fitness), but from the glimpses of what he can do from the QP game, I can`t help wondering what he might be capable of at Championship level IF he could 1) get his weight down and get fitter in the off-season and 2) then get a full pre-season of training under his belt (assuming his past knee problems don`t get in the way).

I have no idea of what his remuneration arrangements are, and the extent to which Gamdon sponsored his signing. However, it got the club a lot of good publicity. The positivity at the time (with Neil Lennon also having been recently appointed) just might have contributed to boosting morale in the squad. With his top-level playing experience I would expect he has been helping pass on advice in training .

The new owners have really helped reinvigorate the club, after what have been a couple of pretty dismal seasons to be a Pars fan. Neil Lennon seems a great improvement on other recent managers. His interviews are certainly much more interesting (than previous recent managers). If, as is rumoured, our new owners are looking to invest more in the team. and 1) we can have a good rebuild of the squad adding more quality where needed and 2) we get a new pitch more conducive to passing football, then I think we can look forward to next season and challenging for a top4 spot with renewed optimism.

I`m with Raymie on Wanyama - let`s see what happens over the summer.



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Topic Originator: Paralytic77  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 13:57

I agree , get Wanyama fit and he`ll be a total beast altogether, a good hard pre season behind him and see what he is capable of then
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 17:16

Great post Rhino

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Topic Originator: coventrypar  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 20:51

One Wanyama = 4 good players or 8 kids.
We will have 3 or 4 Premiership experienced players next season - and the only way he will be here as well, is if a sponsor pays his wages.

"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 21:16

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coventrypar, Tue 22 Apr 20:51

One Wanyama = 4 good players or 8 kids.
We will have 3 or 4 Premiership experienced players next season - and the only way he will be here as well, is if a sponsor pays his wages.


Where do you get your info from
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Topic Originator: Athletico  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 21:22

I`ve been told Gamdom will essentially be funding our window, shirt sponsorship will be one of the most lucrative in the country. The summer window should be an absolute blast.

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Topic Originator: coventrypar  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 21:25

Rigger Al

Making it up in my head like most of us. :)

So lets make broad assumptions - when KRH was getting £3k a week from Rangers and hadn`t touched their first team - and Wanyama played for Celtic in the 1st team - I`ve based it on £4k a week for him as he is past his best ( currently we believe being paid by Gamdom).
So you get 4 x £1k players for that or 8 x £500

What we can be confident is that next season to get into the top 4 minimum and I don`t think our new owners want to settle for that - there will be 3 or 4 class players in our squad.

"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 21:41

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coventrypar, Tue 22 Apr 21:25

Rigger Al

Making it up in my head like most of us. :)

So lets make broad assumptions - when KRH was getting £3k a week from Rangers and hadn`t touched their first team - and Wanyama played for Celtic in the 1st team - I`ve based it on £4k a week for him as he is past his best ( currently we believe being paid by Gamdom).
So you get 4 x £1k players for that or 8 x £500

What we can be confident is that next season to get into the top 4 minimum and I don`t think our new owners want to settle for that - there will be 3 or 4 class players in our squad.


Ha ha
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 25 Apr 11:44

There`s a long interview with VW on COWS.

He has been made very welcome and enjoys working with young players.

He had a meeting with James Bord in London.

He feels he`s nearing match fitness. The style of play in the Championship took a bit of getting used to.

He hasn`t ruled out being here next season.

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Topic Originator: CitizenPar  
Date:   Fri 25 Apr 12:13

A really good player can`t just become a really bad player. I reckon with a full pre-season behind him he could be a real asset to us next season, on and off the pitch.

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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Fri 25 Apr 12:54

Should be nowhere near a contract unless he improves his fitness. He is way off it at the minute.
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Topic Originator: Athletico  
Date:   Fri 25 Apr 13:32

Wanyama is a bulky lad, google photos of him at Celtic and you can see he is much the same. He is clearly not anywhere near match fit, but he hasn`t played since July. Give him a full preseason with us and he will absolutely destroy this league. He`s a class act.

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Topic Originator: SusieQ  
Date:   Fri 25 Apr 13:40

Could we not maybe sign him month to month to begin with & see if he can get fit over the summer / pre season 🤔

Would be a massive coup if we / he can, especially if Lenny is sticking around 😎👏🏼


COME ON YE PARS!
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Fri 25 Apr 13:44

Would all depend on what sort of cash he is asking for. If he isn`t wanting mega bucks he might be worth the risk but he looks a bit stocky and looks well off pace when he comes on.

c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1  
Date:   Fri 25 Apr 14:20

I think there are good times ahead for the club. I am sure it`s a different challenge for VW but one he is maybe up for. With these things it`s about living in the moment. Next season will be better for sure, what player wouldn`t want to be part of that especially if NL and the coaching team are going to make you a better player

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Topic Originator: thebear  
Date:   Fri 25 Apr 14:35

A farcical signing, BUT did he improve morale, provide some enthisiasm, probably yes.
If he was fit could he do a job for very dubious
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Topic Originator: coventrypar  
Date:   Fri 25 Apr 16:02

Might get a living wage and paid decent money per game deal.

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Topic Originator: PARadise  
Date:   Fri 25 Apr 20:42

Based off what ive seen so far he shouldn`t be anywhere near the first team. Unless he can show he`s able to at least break out into a jog at some point then I wouldn`t touch him next year.

No matter what level you`ve played at you need to be able to get about the pitch especially in the championship, saying that if he can get a full preseason then Ill trust Lennons judgement

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Topic Originator: par-ticular  
Date:   Fri 25 Apr 22:12

Has he forgotten all his experiences all that knowledge he accrued over the years. Stuff he can pass on to the younger players! Or does that just disappear when you’re not match fit.
My partner’s son is 50 can’t get about the pitch as he once did, but is much sought after as a coach to younger players. This doesn’t mean Wanyama is totally useless., as I’m sure NL knows.
Just my thoughts, as an ex Manager who passed on my experience to younger engineers.
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Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Fri 25 Apr 23:04

One of the young players told me he is pretty quiet in the dressing room and doesn`t really interact with the other players. Whether that`s because he is new or that`s just his character I`m not sure. I suppose you can lead by example without talking much but he certainly hasn`t done so with his fitness levels.
I wouldn`t be surprised if he called it a day at the end of the season. Let`s see if he still has the desire to put in a hard pre-season before making a call but Marvin Hagler`s silk pyjamas quote springs to mind.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sat 26 Apr 00:41

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Hunter78, Sun 20 Apr 20:46

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NMCmassive, Sun 20 Apr 18:56

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Hunter78, Sat 19 Apr 20:25

Yet some experts on here wanted him to start centre forward today 😂😂😂 an absolute shambles of a signing and you’ve got to question every part of this new owner/CEO ability to sign players. 10 in January and 1 passable then this…..quite why anybody’s excited for the summer is beyond me


Owners that are putting their money where their mouth is and hopefully Neil Lennon running the rule over the signings. Definitely nothing to look forward too…


Like they did with Tidser and January. Well done the new owners on that rubbish 👏🏽 they seem to have got it right with Lennon but back to square one with VW.


I honestly don’t know what you’re expecting.

I could try and counter what you’re saying but I don’t see the point.

I hope you’re happy being sad 😂😂😂

COYP
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sat 26 Apr 05:44

Go and google pictures of him at Spurs. He was an absolute unit. I don’t think he’s as “fat” as people on here are making him out to be, I think he’s pretty stocky and been shoved into a skin tight top…..anyone would look bigger.

On saying that, he’s older and carrying more mass around and hasn’t played in 6 plus months before signing for us so it will take time to get up to speed. Id give him pre season and the friendlies to see where he is at.

Im pretty sure we cant, but trialists aren’t allowed in the League Cup groups are they?
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown  
Date:   Sat 26 Apr 09:59

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Dave_1885, Sat 26 Apr 05:44

Im pretty sure we cant, but trialists aren’t allowed in the League Cup groups are they?


No, to many managers annoyance, you can’t play trialists in the League Cup group matches.
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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 26 Apr 12:01

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Dave_1885, Sat 26 Apr 05:44

Go and google pictures of him at Spurs. He was an absolute unit. I don’t think he’s as “fat” as people on here are making him out to be, I think he’s pretty stocky and been shoved into a skin tight top…..anyone would look bigger.

On saying that, he’s older and carrying more mass around and hasn’t played in 6 plus months before signing for us so it will take time to get up to speed. Id give him pre season and the friendlies to see where he is at.

Im pretty sure we cant, but trialists aren’t allowed in the League Cup groups are they?


He isnt fat. I posted before,when I saw him. He has massive thighs which affect how he runs. He definately was not fat. Unfit by the required standards but nothing that cant be sorted if he has the desire.

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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 26 Apr 12:12

Rather than shoot this guy down at every opertunity,How about cutting the man some slack.He certainly didnt need to come here ,certainly isnt for money ,He has came for two reasons and himself and the manager has clearly Covered this .one was to help out the manager any way he can and second to do anything he can to help DAFC
I think since both have came in one way or another its working
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 26 Apr 12:23

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PARrot, Sat 26 Apr 12:01

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Dave_1885, Sat 26 Apr 05:44

Go and google pictures of him at Spurs. He was an absolute unit. I don’t think he’s as “fat” as people on here are making him out to be, I think he’s pretty stocky and been shoved into a skin tight top…..anyone would look bigger.

On saying that, he’s older and carrying more mass around and hasn’t played in 6 plus months before signing for us so it will take time to get up to speed. Id give him pre season and the friendlies to see where he is at.

Im pretty sure we cant, but trialists aren’t allowed in the League Cup groups are they?


He isnt fat. I posted before,when I saw him. He has massive thighs which affect how he runs. He definately was not fat. Unfit by the required standards but nothing that cant be sorted if he has the desire.


He is massively unfit he couldn`t even run when he came on last week.

c'mon the pars
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