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Topic Originator: DrumRoad
Date: Thu 1 May 07:42
The day has come when we will know if the Pars are safely in the Championship next season or if things will rumble on till 9.30pm tomorrow?
I hope the points deduction is upheld as I don’t fancy going toe to toe with others in the playoffs………….. we don’t have the players or the bottle to survive that imo
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Thu 1 May 07:51
Pretty sure I read that the Hamilton manager reckons they will find out between 5-7pm today.
You`d like to think they will get at least a 3 point penalty and that they won`t beat Falkirk in the final game of the season.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Thu 1 May 08:40
Imagine they aren’t expecting anything from it, probably raised the appeal with the hope they would get the 15pts back with the hearing being post season and taking effect next term.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Thu 1 May 09:21
Quote:
Berry, Thu 1 May 08:40
Imagine they aren’t expecting anything from it, probably raised the appeal with the hope they would get the 15pts back with the hearing being post season and taking effect next term.
A lot of Hamilton fans on P&B are saying it’s all a smoke screen to protect the board…..I suppose time will tell
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Thu 1 May 09:26
not sure there are grounds for a 12 point penalty to be completley withdrawn/overtuned unless there is a MASSIVE error in the auditors investigations. Reduction possible but when it comes to non payment of players/staff that all needs to be properly documented and auditable. Players going on strike about non payment is an indication it did happen.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Thu 1 May 10:05
I think the 15 points reduction may be reduced slightly but won`t be overturned completely
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 1 May 10:29
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Thu 1 May 10:05
I think the 15 points reduction may be reduced slightly but won`t be overturned completely
Agree
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 1 May 10:51
Ideal scenario for us is 15 points reduced to 9, we remain safe and gives them a chance to finish 9th, and really ruin Falkirks Friday night.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 1 May 10:52
I hope their 15 point reduction gets changed to 10. That won’t affect us and it will give Accies something to play for tomorrow.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Thu 1 May 10:59
Is it just me or is anyone not realising even if hamilton are given ten points back we cant be caught????
COYP
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 1 May 11:11
If we match Queen Park result ,we cant be caught, pressure game for the players, Lennon may find out more about this bunch of players, and their ability to perform under pressure.
Post Edited (Thu 01 May 11:11)
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Thu 1 May 11:13
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Thu 1 May 11:11
If we match Queen Park result ,we can be caught, pressure game for the players, Lennon may find out more about this bunch of players, and their ability to perform under pressure.
Caught by who? We are 35 points, 9th is 29 with 1 game left???? Hamilton will not get more than 10 points back
COYP
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 1 May 11:34
Lanarkshire Live Sport
@LanLiveSport
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1h
For Accies fans hoping for a quick outcome today, it is understood Hamilton`s appeal won`t be heard until at least late afternoon.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 1 May 11:44
Quote:
shellypar, Thu 1 May 11:13
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Thu 1 May 11:11
If we match Queen Park result ,we can be caught, pressure game for the players, Lennon may find out more about this bunch of players, and their ability to perform under pressure.
Caught by who? We are 35 points, 9th is 29 with 1 game left???? Hamilton will not get more than 10 points back
Could be overtaken by QP. Will still safe but we will want to finish 7th and take whatever financial benefits it brings over finishing 8th. £16k difference if it was the same as last season.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Thu 01 May 11:55)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 1 May 11:45
`Lanarkshire Live Sport
@LanLiveSport
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1h
For Accies fans hoping for a quick outcome today, it is understood Hamilton`s appeal won`t be heard until at least late afternoon.`
In that case it must be quite a short process you would think - a formality perhaps?
Post Edited (Thu 01 May 12:08)
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Thu 1 May 12:11
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 1 May 11:44
Quote:
shellypar, Thu 1 May 11:13
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saltonsgonagetu, Thu 1 May 11:11
If we match Queen Park result ,we can be caught, pressure game for the players, Lennon may find out more about this bunch of players, and their ability to perform under pressure.
Caught by who? We are 35 points, 9th is 29 with 1 game left???? Hamilton will not get more than 10 points back
Could be overtaken by QP. Will still safe but we will want to finish 7th and take whatever financial benefits it brings over finishing 8th. £16k difference if it was the same as last season.
Ack im not bothered about position anymore tbh, thought yous were on about relegation so i was baffled, my apologies
COYP
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 1 May 12:27
Quote:
shellypar, Thu 1 May 12:11
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cammypar 1995, Thu 1 May 11:44
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shellypar, Thu 1 May 11:13
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saltonsgonagetu, Thu 1 May 11:11
If we match Queen Park result ,we can be caught, pressure game for the players, Lennon may find out more about this bunch of players, and their ability to perform under pressure.
Caught by who? We are 35 points, 9th is 29 with 1 game left???? Hamilton will not get more than 10 points back
Could be overtaken by QP. Will still safe but we will want to finish 7th and take whatever financial benefits it brings over finishing 8th. £16k difference if it was the same as last season.
Ack im not bothered about position anymore tbh, thought yous were on about relegation so i was baffled, my apologies
I wasn`t overly bothered until I saw the difference in prize money. 16k (although this was last season`s figure so maybe a bit more ) is a decent amount to add to the budget of next season.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Thu 1 May 14:41
Hamilton will be playing in Cumbernauld’s Broadwood Stadium next season (and ironically, Clyde will be playing in Hamilton)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 1 May 15:12
Why would South Lanarkshire council build a stadium off their own back to hand to a club that can`t pay for it and would generate a very limited income? Particularly when there`s already an existing stadium and numerous council run training pitches available?
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Thu 1 May 15:14
Can someone fix the link?
Interesting timing. Ground owners appear to be difficult to deal with and the way the statement’s phrased, shows the club in a responsible light….
Post Edited (Thu 01 May 15:15)
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 1 May 15:53
Quote:
jake89, Thu 1 May 15:12
Why would South Lanarkshire council build a stadium off their own back to hand to a club that can`t pay for it and would generate a very limited income? Particularly when there`s already an existing stadium and numerous council run training pitches available?
The club are mere tennants of New Douglas Park and apparently the owner is charging exorbitant amounts to Hamilton to play there.
Having a council owned stadium (like F*lkirk) they wouldn’t have such a financial burden.
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Thu 1 May 16:03
No wonder the likes of Hamilton get low crowds. Where’s the sense of community and togetherness when every games effectively an away game. No fans wall or legends of the club murals for them🙁
Post Edited (Thu 01 May 16:06)
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Topic Originator: Alf
Date: Thu 1 May 16:35
So Clyde are going to be playing at Hamiltons ground and Hamilton are going to be playing at Broadwood, Clyde`s old ground,
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 1 May 17:18
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Thu 1 May 15:53
Quote:
jake89, Thu 1 May 15:12
Why would South Lanarkshire council build a stadium off their own back to hand to a club that can`t pay for it and would generate a very limited income? Particularly when there`s already an existing stadium and numerous council run training pitches available?
The club are mere tennants of New Douglas Park and apparently the owner is charging exorbitant amounts to Hamilton to play there.
Having a council owned stadium (like F*lkirk) they wouldn’t have such a financial burden.
Difference is Brockville was demolished. If the council built another stadium they`d potentially be relying solely on income from Hamilton FC. Any other uses would presumably be in competition against NDP? There also aren`t suitable sites for a new stadium in Hamilton as far as I`m aware.
The issue for clubs like Hamilton are they have low crowds and that makes building a stadium that could also be used for other purposes challenging.
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Topic Originator: RhinoPars
Date: Thu 1 May 17:52
Interesting to read the comments on the Hamilton Academicals Facebook page. Not fact checked and truth may be different (as it is social media) but one poster indicated the ground owner had earlier said rent was 50,000 per year not the amounts claimed while others speculate that the ground owner maybe trying to kill the club so he can sell the ground for development. Moving the club away from its already small fan base is unlikely to improve the support (as the Bully Wee found when they moved out of Glasgow when they had to leave Shawfield.
My dad and his dad (who had one share) were Third Lanark supporters fand a crooked businessman deliberately ran the club down and created financial problems in the hope of being able to develop the ground. He was thwarted and died so never got to develop the ground but a club with a long history went out of business. As many of you know Cathkin still exists, although now with lots of trees that have established on the terracing and the old wooden stand long gone.
Not wanting to see the club I have supported since I was five go under, was happy to have been a very minor Patron of Pars Utd to help ensure our club could survive administration.
While Hamilton has a smaller fan base because locals primarily support the OF, they still will have loyal fans going back multiple generations. They must be very worried. I hope that the Facebook posts are devoid of truth and the club doesn’t go the way of Third Lanark .
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 1 May 19:00
So what was the outcome then?
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Thu 1 May 19:01
I’m a little nervous this seems to be taking so long…. I’d have thought we would have had an announcement by now.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 1 May 19:10
Nothing on the SFA website as yet. Probably the most visited / refreshed page today lol
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Thu 1 May 19:25
Quote:
Never10yairds, Thu 1 May 19:01
I’m a little nervous this seems to be taking so long…. I’d have thought we would have had an announcement by now.
Apparently the hearing didn’t start until 5pm.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 1 May 19:42
Rumour was that the outcome wont be made public till after tomorrow’s fixtures have been played out. I doubted that rumour though.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 1 May 19:46
That would make sense
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Thu 1 May 19:51
Hamilton appeal dismissed.
Press release in due course.
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 1 May 19:55
Quote:
desparado, Thu 1 May 19:46
That would make sense
For me, it wouldn`t make sense at all. What if teams, believing themselves to be safe put out an experimental side filled with fringe players, and then, after the final whistle announce Hamilton are safe as the deduction has been rescinded, Airdrie are down and Pars are in the play offs.
The football authorities have made a shambles of this whole thing just 3 weeks before the end of the season. In future they should have `windows` at the start of the season and midway season where these kind of deductions can take place
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Thu 1 May 19:56
Quote:
Connor560, Thu 1 May 19:51
Hamilton appeal dismissed.
Press release in due course.
Source?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 1 May 20:06
Doesn`t Connor work for another Championship club?
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 1 May 20:07
Livi, I think.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 1 May 20:07
Topic Originator: red-star-par like
Date: Thu 1 May 19:55
Quote:
desparado, Thu 1 May 19:46
That would make sense
For me, it wouldn`t make sense at all. What if teams, believing themselves to be safe put out an experimental side filled with fringe players, and then, after the final whistle announce Hamilton are safe as the deduction has been rescinded, Airdrie are down and Pars are in the play offs.
The football authorities have made a shambles of this whole thing just 3 weeks before the end of the season. In future they should have `windows` at the start of the season and midway season where these kind of deductions can take place.
Well they wouldn’t put out experimental teams then would they …..Sounds like it’s immaterial now anyway..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Thu 1 May 20:10
Lost their appeal 🤭🤣
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Topic Originator: Benny74
Date: Thu 1 May 20:10
15 points stands
Benny74
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Topic Originator: arpar
Date: Thu 1 May 20:11
Quote:
red-star-par, Thu 1 May 19:55
Quote:
desparado, Thu 1 May 19:46
That would make sense
For me, it wouldn`t make sense at all. What if teams, believing themselves to be safe put out an experimental side filled with fringe players, and then, after the final whistle announce Hamilton are safe as the deduction has been rescinded, Airdrie are down and Pars are in the play offs.
The football authorities have made a shambles of this whole thing just 3 weeks before the end of the season. In future they should have `windows` at the start of the season and midway season where these kind of deductions can take place
So Hamilton breached the rules and misled the SPFL but it`s the authorities fault? They could only act when they had the information and it should be applied this season.
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