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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Mon 26 May 21:10
Just got back from football, to this message from my mate, who`s down in Liverpool for the trophy parade
One of The best Days of my life was just unbelievably shattered! We were just feet away from a terrifying attack where a car drove through the crowd!
I’m truly devastated and traumatised to have witnessed such a horrific incident!
Me and my family are safe and just thank god we were on the other side of the road!
Hy heart is aching for all those people who have been injured and praying for them!
🙏🙏
WTF!!! Sounds like he has been extremely lucky, thank god.
Absolutely horrific thing to witness.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Mon 26 May 21:26
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn5xnlkegz0t
53 year old arrested
Post Edited (Mon 26 May 21:27 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn5xnlkegz0t
53 year old arrested
Post Edited (Mon 26 May 21:27)
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 26 May 22:04
Horrific incident. Looking at earlier footage, it seems like some kind of road rage and i just hope and pray nobody is a fatality.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 26 May 22:19
Quote:
DBP, Mon 26 May 21:26
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn5xnlkegz0t
53 year old arrested
Originally most news outlets were saying the 53 year old "white British" man arrested was the driver. Now they are leading with the age, colour and nationality of a man that`s been arrested but the police are not confirming that man is the driver of the car and are asking people not to speculate.
Very sad for the people caught up in that on what should have been a good day out for them
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Mon 26 May 22:25
Just found out about this, switched the Ross Co v Livi game off, went on X and there it was, lots of footage and it’s absolutely horrific!!
Thoughts are with everyone effected, this is just devastating
Post Edited (Mon 26 May 22:25)
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Mon 26 May 22:27
Had another message from him. He`s been so lucky
We are all ok thank God!
We were 10ft away from the car at the top of the street where he started, he was sitting stationary and then sped off hitting a van and an ambulance and nocking down 3 x people, we were on the other side of the street but as he passed I looked at him right in the eye!
I’m absolutely heartbroken and truly thank god that we are all safe but praying for all those injured 🙏❤️
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 26 May 22:33
Quote:
red-star-par, Mon 26 May 22:19
Quote:
DBP, Mon 26 May 21:26
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn5xnlkegz0t
53 year old arrested
Originally most news outlets were saying the 53 year old "white British" man arrested was the driver. Now they are leading with the age, colour and nationality of a man that`s been arrested but the police are not confirming that man is the driver of the car and are asking people not to speculate.
Very sad for the people caught up in that on what should have been a good day out for them
Because too many idiots are quick to claim a terrorist attack by a Muslim. Look at what happened last year with the poor fella who died in the Cowgate in Edinburgh. Even after it was stated what had happened the morons were still claiming it was a group of Muslims with a machete.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 26 May 22:43
Judging by the videos the chap driving looks a good bit younger than 53. It looks to me like he has maybe ended up among the crowd by accident, tried to reverse out, but then angered some people who then smashed the back wiper off and started hitting his car, he then reversed again,almost knocking one person over. Then quite a lot of people have started hitting the car, and he`s sped off, possibly he`s just panicked and tried to get away from the people and then things have got a bit out of control
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 26 May 22:56
"Not terror related"
"Isolated incident"
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Tue 27 May 01:09
Horrific scenes.
47 people injured, 27 taken to hospital 4 of them children, one of the children "very seriously injured".
A day of joy turned into a dreadful tragedy, there are no words of sympathy I can find that seem in any way suitable.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Tue 27 May 06:19
Quote:
red-star-par, Mon 26 May 22:43
Judging by the videos the chap driving looks a good bit younger than 53. It looks to me like he has maybe ended up among the crowd by accident, tried to reverse out, but then angered some people who then smashed the back wiper off and started hitting his car, he then reversed again,almost knocking one person over. Then quite a lot of people have started hitting the car, and he`s sped off, possibly he`s just panicked and tried to get away from the people and then things have got a bit out of control
That’s how I have seen it as well mate if it was someone hell bent on wiping out as many people as possible then I highly doubt he’d have stopped when he did either way he’s well and truly up the creek without a paddle so to speak
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 27 May 06:49
Quote:
Big T Par, Mon 26 May 22:27
Had another message from him. He`s been so lucky
We are all ok thank God!
We were 10ft away from the car at the top of the street where he started, he was sitting stationary and then sped off hitting a van and an ambulance and nocking down 3 x people, we were on the other side of the street but as he passed I looked at him right in the eye!
I’m absolutely heartbroken and truly thank god that we are all safe but praying for all those injured 🙏❤️
Glad your friend is ok Big T. Sounds like a deranged individual that has plowed into a crowd on purpose. The police have had to act quickly to denounce the usual hype on X from the usual suspects. Such a horrible thing to happen at what should have been such a joyous event for so many. Hopefully the seriously injured pull through with a full recovery (physically).
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 27 May 08:32
Glad your mate and Family are OK Big T .. Also hope all who were injured recover and the serious injured kid makes a full recovery .. We will find out eventually what happened and why .. My heart goes out to all the poor souls who were hurt and witnessed this horrific incident
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: SusieQ
Date: Tue 27 May 10:11
Horrible horrible incident.
Begs the question of why / how a car was in that area with so many people still in the street.
The video I saw had the car moving slowly to begin with and bystanders shouting at the driver / attacking the car so I`m wondering if he panicked trying to get away from those people and has lost control, plowing into the other crowd, rather than a pre-meditated mowing down of people.
Guess we will find out why it happened, but in the meantime, yet again rivalries put aside & best wishes to everyone involved, effected by the incident.
Sad that you can`t even celebrate sport nowadays without some idiot going on a rampage.
Horrific 😢💔💙
COME ON YE PARS!
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Tue 27 May 17:46
Good old bbc
Police say they will continue to support the victims of the attack, while an extensive CCTV search is ongoing to understand the driver of the car`s movements
The police repeated that the incident is not being treated as terrorism, and urged the public not to share distressing content online or speculate about the motivations behind the incident
The incident is not being treated as terrorism but let’s refer to it as an attack it was an accident nothing more
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Tue 27 May 20:40
Apparently the vehicle involved went into the restricted area behind an ambulance that had been called for someone having had a suspected heart attack. Coincidence ?
Why was the vehicle allowed to follow the ambulance? …..it should have been stopped…
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 27 May 21:28
From BBC news:-
The driver of a car that ploughed into football fans during Liverpool`s Premier League victory parade is being held on suspicion of attempted murder, police have said.
Merseyside Police said a Ford Galaxy avoided a roadblock by tailgating an ambulance responding to reports of a member of the public having suffered a heart attack.
The force said the 53-year-old man, from the West Derby area of the city, was also being detained on suspicion of dangerous driving and driving while unfit through drugs.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Tue 27 May 22:31
I really hope it was an accident and not a lunatic Stephen King fan taking inspiration from his Mr Mercedes novel. It would probably make Mr King take the book out of circulation like he did with another book about a school shooting after that became commonplace.
More importantly, I pray the injured all come through it unscathed.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Tue 27 May 23:07
That driver was never 53 years old….more mid 20’s early 30’s imo….
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Tue 27 May 23:41
Quote:
Alter Ego, Tue 27 May 23:07
That driver was never 53 years old….more mid 20’s early 30’s imo….
Were you there? What are the eyewitnesses saying?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 27 May 23:54
Quote:
Alter Ego, Tue 27 May 23:07
That driver was never 53 years old….more mid 20’s early 30’s imo….
The photo doing the rounds isn`t the driver.
The police have the driver in custody and he`s been charged with various things including attempted murder. Based on what`s reported it sounds like he was drunk/on drugs and has snuck in behind an ambulance. Why he did that and why he decided to mow down pedestrians is unknown.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Wed 28 May 09:08
"Why he did that and why he decided to mow down pedestrians is unknown."
the drugs charge may explain a fair bit.
The "early" footage seems to show him realising hes made an error and trying to turn to get out the situation when 2-3 people start to hit the car windows. One person getting particularly aggressive and rips back wiper off the car, driver jolts car back into him and he retaliates by smashing the back window when the driver just seems to lose it and puts the foot down heading towards the crowd and the rest of the footage i`m sure we have all seen
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 28 May 09:52
Sounds like a pretty big failure to properly close the area off to vehicles. What an absolute nightmare of a scenario
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Topic Originator: Turps
Date: Wed 28 May 10:39
Quote:
Andrew283, Wed 28 May 09:52
Sounds like a pretty big failure to properly close the area off to vehicles. What an absolute nightmare of a scenario
Apparently, he followed an ambulance in responding to a call that someone was having a heart attack.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 28 May 12:11
Quote:
Turps, Wed 28 May 10:39
Quote:
Andrew283, Wed 28 May 09:52
Sounds like a pretty big failure to properly close the area off to vehicles. What an absolute nightmare of a scenario
Apparently, he followed an ambulance in responding to a call that someone was having a heart attack.
Yes, but the guidance states that this needs to be specifically monitored to avoid this situation.
Hopefully learnings can be made and it doesn`t happen again.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Wed 28 May 14:22
police given more time to question the suspect before proceeding with charges/presenting bail.
7 of the 79 reported injured people remain in hospital
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Wed 28 May 14:29
Anybody know what speed he went into the crowd at?
Psych ward inbound for the driver, not jail. Stick the chunt in Arkham with the other criminal whack jobs.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 28 May 14:45
Quote:
kozmasrightfoot, Wed 28 May 14:29
Anybody know what speed he went into the crowd at?
Psych ward inbound for the driver, not jail. Stick the chunt in Arkham with the other criminal whack jobs.
Accelerating but not rapid. I`d like to hope it was all panic and not malicious
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Wed 28 May 15:25
"Accelerating but not rapid. I`d like to hope it was all panic and not malicious"
the actions were not started as a malicious act (going by the footage) but turned that way when people were htting the car/banging the windows when he jolted into 1 particular person then turned a bit more malicious/panicked once the car windows were smashed. A judgement clouded by drug consumption (going by the charges documented)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 28 May 18:36
I saw a report saying he averaged 10mph through the crowd.
Bad enough but could have been much worse?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Wed 28 May 18:37)
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Wed 28 May 19:29
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Wed 28 May 18:36
I saw a report saying he averaged 10mph through the crowd.
Bad enough but could have been much worse?
Could have been a lot worse he could have easily pulled out and pinned the throttle passed the ambulance and been closer to 50mph which is probably what would have happened if there had been any malice involved
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Topic Originator: DAPAR
Date: Wed 28 May 20:26
Some on here appear to have a degree sympathy for a man who has caused mass casualties and serious injury through his reckless driving, in all likelihood whilst in charge of a vehicle under the influence of drugs having ignored road closures. Dearie me.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 28 May 20:39
Quote:
DAPAR, Wed 28 May 20:26
Some on here appear to have a degree sympathy for a man who has caused mass casualties and serious injury through his reckless driving, in all likelihood whilst in charge of a vehicle under the influence of drugs having ignored road closures. Dearie me.
My thoughts and why Ive stopped commenting on it. Imagine that had happened during the Gala up town. Be a different story then.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Wed 28 May 21:07
Sounds like drug induced panic rather than evil malevolence. He`ll do time though, you can`t injure that many people without repercussions.
Mr Mercedes (great book) will remain available to read or listen too. Just don`t watch the tv version, as per, it doesn`t do the book justice.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Wed 28 May 21:19
Quote:
DAPAR, Wed 28 May 20:26
Some on here appear to have a degree sympathy for a man who has caused mass casualties and serious injury through his reckless driving, in all likelihood whilst in charge of a vehicle under the influence of drugs having ignored road closures. Dearie me.
Far from it there is no question that he will have to do time for his actions but I genuinely do not think he left his house that day with the sole intention of mowing down Liverpool fans Merseyside police Liverpool city council and the event organisers will have some tough questions to answer tho as to why he was able to get anywhere near the parade as for the people banging kicking and smashing his car up they probably helped escalate the situation to the level it got to
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Wed 28 May 21:22
Watched the video and that was horrendous…
So and I’m sure the police have all his details etc so name the guy who did it and put him away for a long time…No way was a 53 year old driving the car reported in the news so who was driving the car?? Liverpool fans started smashing the car up…then he drove off…something isn’t right yet again about the incident(just like the Southport stabbings)
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Wed 28 May 22:16
He’s only being questioned at this time so can’t be named.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 29 May 06:59
Quote:
Alter Ego, Wed 28 May 21:22
Watched the video and that was horrendous…
So and I’m sure the police have all his details etc so name the guy who did it and put him away for a long time…No way was a 53 year old driving the car reported in the news so who was driving the car?? Liverpool fans started smashing the car up…then he drove off…something isn’t right yet again about the incident(just like the Southport stabbings)
Maybe the police should release his address as well as his name, Alter Ego? That would allow some vigilantes to go round and torch his house. 🙄
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 29 May 08:19
Quote:
Alter Ego, Wed 28 May 21:22
Watched the video and that was horrendous…
So and I’m sure the police have all his details etc so name the guy who did it and put him away for a long time…No way was a 53 year old driving the car reported in the news so who was driving the car?? Liverpool fans started smashing the car up…then he drove off…something isn’t right yet again about the incident(just like the Southport stabbings)
You can literally see him when they open the door and he looks around my age (54). You are absolutely desperate for this to be a certain demographic.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 29 May 08:28
As always the issue is people making stuff up on social media. Thousands of numpties have shared a photo of the "driver". It`s not the driver at all. It`s one of the Liverpool fans who tried to get in the car. The driver, who is visible when the door is pulled open, looks like a middle-aged white guy. That`s not very exciting though. This is exactly why the police struggle to balance the information they release.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Thu 29 May 09:15
new CCTV released shows someone stepping out infront of him driving in a different street/area. Person is looking at a phone not paying attention and steps out from middle of the road from behind a van and driver sounds the horn and stops the car before coliding with the person. Pavement is full of people. If it was going to be something malicious/deliverate he could have mowed that person down or pulled onto the pavement to wipe out dozens of people. There`s no sympathy at all for the driver or anyone who drives with drink/drugs in their system is an absolute scumbag and deserves everything they get.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 29 May 09:21
There was a story yesterday of a Liverpool fan being `outed ` on social media as the driver but this guy was about four miles away from the incident in a different car with passengers. He and his family had a few uncomfortable hours though before it became clear he wasn`t involved.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 29 May 10:50
Quote:
Alter Ego, Wed 28 May 21:22
Watched the video and that was horrendous…
So and I’m sure the police have all his details etc so name the guy who did it and put him away for a long time…No way was a 53 year old driving the car reported in the news so who was driving the car?? Liverpool fans started smashing the car up…then he drove off…something isn’t right yet again about the incident(just like the Southport stabbings)
I don’t think this is the same thing tbh. If someone is going to cover up something here, it’ll be the person/people who let the car through/fckd up the traffic management plan trying to distance themselves from that decisions.
COYP
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 29 May 17:35
From BBC:
“Police confirm the seven charges that Paul Desmond Sanders Doyle (53) faces, are:
Two counts of unlawful and malicious wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm;
Two counts of causing unlawful and malicious grievous bodily harm with intent to cause grievous bodily harm;
Two counts of attempted unlawful and malicious grievous bodily harm with intent to cause grievous bodily harm; and
One count of dangerous driving”.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 29 May 18:20
Quote:
buffy, Thu 29 May 17:35
From BBC:
“Police confirm the seven charges that Paul Desmond Sanders Doyle (53) faces, are:
Two counts of unlawful and malicious wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm;
Two counts of causing unlawful and malicious grievous bodily harm with intent to cause grievous bodily harm;
Two counts of attempted unlawful and malicious grievous bodily harm with intent to cause grievous bodily harm; and
One count of dangerous driving”.
Alter Ego will be devastated
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Thu 29 May 19:39
No mention of any charges relating to drink or drugs? was that part just made up by the police to cover their back for the obvious F up with him being able to get anywhere near the crowd unchallenged
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 29 May 19:41
Quote:
Back_oh_the_net, Thu 29 May 19:39
No mention of any charges relating to drink or drugs? was that part just made up by the police to cover their back for the obvious F up with him being able to get anywhere near the crowd unchallenged
Charge might come later on when toxicology comes back, if he has refused to do test at station. Or maybe don’t feel a need for it with all the other charges on him.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Thu 29 May 20:41
Quote:
Dave_1885, Thu 29 May 19:41
Quote:
Back_oh_the_net, Thu 29 May 19:39
No mention of any charges relating to drink or drugs? was that part just made up by the police to cover their back for the obvious F up with him being able to get anywhere near the crowd unchallenged
Charge might come later on when toxicology comes back, if he has refused to do test at station. Or maybe don’t feel a need for it with all the other charges on him.
Surely they would have done a drugs wipe which is standard practice down south when any motoring related offences are committed as for a tox report pretty sure they can’t force someone to give a blood sample so not sure how they could do said report
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 29 May 20:46
Quote:
Back_oh_the_net, Thu 29 May 20:41
Quote:
Dave_1885, Thu 29 May 19:41
Quote:
Back_oh_the_net, Thu 29 May 19:39
No mention of any charges relating to drink or drugs? was that part just made up by the police to cover their back for the obvious F up with him being able to get anywhere near the crowd unchallenged
Charge might come later on when toxicology comes back, if he has refused to do test at station. Or maybe don’t feel a need for it with all the other charges on him.
Surely they would have done a drugs wipe which is standard practice down south when any motoring related offences are committed as for a tox report pretty sure they can’t force someone to give a blood sample so not sure how they could do said report
You might be right. Ive never been pulled over for either so couldn’t tell you the process, just going on watching Road Wars and Police Intercepters 😂 reckon they have just negated that charge though based on the number of GBH charges.
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