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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 6 Dec 13:55
Just heading along now and on updates duty.
I’ll post team lines as soon as I get them - efter I’ve handed oot ma Christmas cairds.
Three points please Pars!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 06 Dec 16:53)
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 6 Dec 14:06
Terrell
Chilokoa-Mullen
Hamilton
Todd
Amade
Abdulai
Kane
Bray
A.Tod
J.Tod
Fraser
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 6 Dec 14:08
Subs
Mehmet
Benedictus
Otoo
Ritchie-Hostler
Cacres
Macleod
Stewart
Cooper
Oakley-Boothe
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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Sat 6 Dec 14:32
David Dickinson the referee today, we will get nothing from that incompetent clown.
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Sat 6 Dec 14:34
Happy to see Bray get another crack at the whip as I thought he played well last week n put himself around.
Big opportunity today if we win and the top 2 win against their respective opponents.
As highlighted above though, likely to be playing against 12 men with David Dickenson in the middle, another terrible official produced by the SFA.
COYP
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 6 Dec 14:53
Cheers BP!
All the big guns up first. Getintaethum Pars!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: USMac
Date: Sat 6 Dec 15:04
Bene, Cooper and Stewart all made the bench!
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Topic Originator: Parster
Date: Sat 6 Dec 15:11
Six match ban two suspended for saying the truth
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Sat 6 Dec 15:30
We are giving away cheap possession way too much and giving away stupid fouls constantly. It`s going to bite us eventually.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 6 Dec 15:46
We are way to slow, need Barney and McLeod on at halftime.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 6 Dec 15:47
Poor the first half.poor in forward positions, I thought. Poor control, giving the ball away, slow to loose balls. We need to be much better to win this.
G Wardrope
Post Edited (Sat 06 Dec 15:48)
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 6 Dec 15:47
No quality at all on show today. Everytime we get advanced up the park the ball goes backwards or given away. Supposed to be pros. Come on lads up it and give us something to get behind.
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 6 Dec 15:49
3 centre backs and 2 defensive mids doesn`t help us get up the pitch. Playing into arbroaths hands with this
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Sat 6 Dec 15:50
A sign of a poor game when Parstv thread has more posts than the match thread.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 6 Dec 15:51
Looks like we`re not alone in failing to break down a defence. Four championship games today and not one goal.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 6 Dec 15:53
Uninspiring - lots of aimless punts upfield.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 6 Dec 16:17
GOALLLLLLLL
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 6 Dec 16:18
haha, mon the pars
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 6 Dec 16:32
Equaliser. I-1 Good header - don`t know where our defence was.
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Sat 6 Dec 16:32
Utter dross since scoring and that Arbroath goal was coming. We should never be in this position. So frustrating.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 6 Dec 16:50
We`ve been so bad for quite a few weeks now. Ground out a couple of wins and draws but we`ve been below par performance wise for quite some time. Free kick sums our play up.
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 6 Dec 16:51
Exactly what we deserve.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 6 Dec 16:51
Such a frustrating game to watch. And now it`s 2-1 to Arbroath. FFS.
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 6 Dec 16:52
2 corners
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 6 Dec 16:52
The biggest guy on the park and a free header from 6 yards. How does that happen ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 6 Dec 16:52
No surprising. They were the better side. We did nothing. At times I thought we were the part time side. They wanted it more
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Stozy
Date: Sat 6 Dec 16:53
Amateurish defending, twice. Slow and haphazard build up for attacks. Pointless free kick setup where Todd didn`t seem to expect the pass. Got what they deserved today, did nothing after going 1 up.
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Sat 6 Dec 16:54
This team aren’t going anywhere. Not even close to being as good as some folk think.
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Topic Originator: Swisspar
Date: Sat 6 Dec 16:54
Quote:
Indiapar1, Sat 6 Dec 16:52
No surprising. They were the better side. We did nothing. At times I thought we were the part time side. They wanted it more
They came for a draw, got more than they expected!
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 6 Dec 16:55
Arbroath better tactics and organisation. We were awful today…they deserved the win. Gilmour so badly missed. Lennon talks about forwards but we are crying out for decent CM and an experienced CB.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 6 Dec 16:56
Dreadful performance. The last twenty minutes it was one way traffic. Their superior fitness told…….
They won every second ball as we ball watched with very little anticipation’
No leadership on the park.
Got what we deserved…Nothing.
Lennon will be fuming after watching that….
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: macapar
Date: Sat 6 Dec 16:58
They are part time and fitter than our players,
At Partick we were lacking something too, no doubt Lennon will solve this.
Post Edited (Sat 06 Dec 17:13)
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:01
Lennon needs to start earning his crust
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:02
Got to question the substitutions -I wouldn`t have TOB or Caceres anywhere near the team.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:02
That`s a terrible result. It`s been coming though.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:03
Caceres is a empty shirt. How the hell did somebody by that for 1.4 Million.
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Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:05
Arbroath the better team on the day. We didn`t take the few chances that came our way.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:10
We never got into the game. The last to there was only one team in it. Overall they were better and deserved to win it just by their positivity
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:11
Some pretty poor performances out there. You can’t win when so many are below their levels. Caceres has not contributed too much since he came up.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:12
The two midfield subs on the 60-70 minute mark killed us for 3 points at home in august against county. Better playing with 10 men than having TOB on the field.
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:15
Ref: Bertie Paton Sat 6 Dec 17:03
`Caceres is an empty shirt. How the hell did somebody buy that for 1.4 Million.`
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Maybe Lebanese pounds. You get 1.4 million of them for £11.72
I`m not sure Amade is what we need either and TOB is a misfit.
Yes we missed Gilmour, Kearney and Rudden. All important players for us, and at least Charlie can be back next match.
That defeat today stung me like the belt!
Post Edited (Sat 06 Dec 17:20)
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:17
Pathetic today.
Scored then sat back and lost our battles all over the pitch.
Why Tod didn’t hit the free kick is beyond me.
I think Tod can be doing with being dropped tbh he’s not been anywhere near the levels he was at before his U21 call up.
Start with Barney and Kane next week.
Massive opportunity lost to go 3rd today and we only have ourselves to blame.
Oakley-Boothe shouldn’t be near that team.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:18
Like others, I am beginning to form a negative impression of Caceres and TOB. Despite their promise, neither seems to bring anything to our side.
So many mistakes all over the park today. Those last 20 minutes, we really were under the gun. We couldn`t seem to pass to our own players out of defence. For their part, the Arbroath players just needed to stand in an orderly line 30 yards out from our goal, safe in the knowledge that the ball would be coming to them for another attack.
And sure enough, right at the end, all that pressure (which we essentially put on ourselves) paid off big time.
A great disappointment. It was such a frustrating game to watch.
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:19
Quote:
par_33, Sat 6 Dec 17:12
The two midfield subs on the 60-70 minute mark killed us for 3 points at home in august against county. Better playing with 10 men than having TOB on the field.
Amade was more shocking today than TOB
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Topic Originator: craigypar35
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:26
Quote:
desparado, Sat 6 Dec 16:56
Dreadful performance. The last twenty minutes it was one way traffic. Their superior fitness told…….
They won every second ball as we ball watched with very little anticipation’
No leadership on the park.
Got what we deserved…Nothing.
Lennon will be fuming after watching that….
He should be fuming! We are nowhere near good enough. Part time team far fitter than our full time team, with better tactics. Why on earth did we not hit the free kick on the edge of the box!!! Dreadful stuff. Lennon needs to start showing his credentials.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:38
Quote:
craigypar35, Sat 6 Dec 17:26
Quote:
desparado, Sat 6 Dec 16:56
Dreadful performance. The last twenty minutes it was one way traffic. Their superior fitness told…….
They won every second ball as we ball watched with very little anticipation’
No leadership on the park.
Got what we deserved…Nothing.
Lennon will be fuming after watching that….
He should be fuming! We are nowhere near good enough. Part time team far fitter than our full time team, with better tactics. Why on earth did we not hit the free kick on the edge of the box!!! Dreadful stuff. Lennon needs to start showing his credentials.
Absolutely Craigypar. That today was unacceptable
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:45
If you have a free kick 18 yards out in the centre of the goals and still don’t have a shot, you deserve all you get!! Absolutely hopeless today.
Whole team was poor and got even poorer once the changes were made and seemed to lose all shape altogether.
Gilmour was a massive miss today. Don’t think Amade passed to a pars player the whole game and was pushed around. TOB did his usual once he come on (nothing) and Caceres is proving to just be a waste of a shirt (lost the ball again which resulted in them getting a corner for the goal under no pressure)
We struggle when we need to take the game to a team and end up just passing it between then defenders constantly. As mentioned above, Arbroath came for a draw and ended up with more.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:48
Caseres also hauled down for possible pen. Have to say my initial reaction was inside the box
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:49
Second to every ball for a long spell in the second half and outmuscled by a physically superior team. Looked like boys against men for a spell. We could have done with Benedictus out there to even things up in that regard.
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Sat 6 Dec 17:54
NL turned the game by bringing on Barney and then turned it back by bringing on Carceres and TOB.
We were exerting a bit of control after going 1-0 and the second set up subs seemed unnecessary. Maybe out thought himself a bit there. Arbroath are a strong, smart, physical side. We needed a midfield that could compete from start to finish. Never a game for TOB and Carceres.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Sat 6 Dec 18:00
Playing with Stewart and Oakley Booth is like playing with 9 men. Goal aside Stewart was dreadful, however was still better than TOB.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 6 Dec 18:05
Other than the keeper, Fraser and Todd in the first half, it`s hard to give anyone lass marks. Todd was getting joy down our right the whole first half then we stopped using him. The entire midfield was posted missing yet got worse after the changes. Kane and Bray started off reasonably well but after a decent opening 15 minutes you wouldn`t know they were playing. Tod is too greedy at times.
And yet, if the referee realises the foul on Cáceres is inside the box and sends off their man for making no attempt to win the ball, we somehow escape with all three points. But at the end of the day, Arbroath were better than us and deserved the win.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 6 Dec 18:06
I think sometimes we need to take the pink coloured glasses off , and today showed without certain players on the park we are very ordinary ,
We haven`t been at the races for a few games now , been lucky to grind out a win or two and last week wasn`t exactly an inspirational win , when it should have been well and truly wound up early doors , I think we will probably see more games like this today because if we are honest enough we are not as good as we think we are work in progress , But Bringing on TOB was another man down , Mr NL really has to have a good look at himself for his continual faith in TOB , We know there is a player in there but we are waiting on him producing , as Raymie said far too many passengers today and one or two needing dropped to waken them up and to let the tallest man on the park get two free headers is beyond belief
Very disappointed today but not unexpected
The Best team won cannot say any more than that
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 6 Dec 18:10
You will be waiting till after TOB`s retirement and still talking about his potential.
The guy will never have the heart or desire to make it. Seen many like him over the years. He`s a lost cause.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 6 Dec 18:17
We looked a bit light compared to Arbroath. Their physicality will get them more points over the season. We were second to every ball in midfield today
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sat 6 Dec 19:08
Thought we played good stuff up until we scored. After that we sat back and done nothing atall.. all arbroath.. is it just me or can todd no win a header.. seems to me lole he can never judge the wall and its always the other player that wins it everytime against him.. a dont get why we push players from the back. Im sure it was bray up at the north west corner giving away a pointless free kick when were attacking
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 6 Dec 19:19
You can criticise Caceres and TOB but they were only on the pitch for 22 minutes each. We didn`t control the midfield for the previous 68 either. Why NL thought a wee guy like Amade was the right man to replace Gilmour is a mystery to me. Why not put JCM in there? He can win tackles and headers, pass and dribble better than any of our midfielders. 3 points thrown away.
Post Edited (Sat 06 Dec 19:20)
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Sat 6 Dec 19:25
I`m not gonna say Caceres, Amade and TOB aren`t good players, but they just don`t fit our team. We know heaps of players who have been with the Pars and done poorly and gone on to succeed elsewhere. I think that`s how it`ll be for them. We need more players who are better suited to our team and the league we`re in.
Let`s face it Wanyama wasn`t gonna fit in either. Those four all brought the hope of something fresh and stylish to the team, but I`d rather we stuck with our own Scottish championship type of players.
Gimme another Gilmour, another Bene with younger legs, another Calum Morris, another Josh Edwards, and some others. Until we get more of the kind of players we need, we`re gonna remain inconsistent.
Post Edited (Sat 06 Dec 19:32)
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 6 Dec 19:29
In the ascendancy when we scored, then sat back and let them come at us, Caceres pulled down in the box, should have been a red card and penalty, game over!
Was complimenting the ref at half time, but second half he was crap!💩
Post Edited (Sat 06 Dec 19:30)
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Topic Originator: NikNakPar
Date: Sat 6 Dec 20:22
Caceres is a decent player. Unsure of the criticism. Didn’t do much today I agree. Countless times this season already I have seen him in space but doesn’t recieve the ball. He has an eye for a good pass and puts in a good cross. I’d start him over Bray . Bray is horrendous.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sat 6 Dec 20:23
poor in so many ways today both on and off the park, the free kick at the end then conceding from a corner summed it up.
Lennon talked about recruitment meetings at the start of the week, might be a few extra added to that wishlist in and out now.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sat 6 Dec 20:42
Quote:
NikNakPar, Sat 6 Dec 20:22
Caceres is a decent player. Unsure of the criticism. Didn’t do much today I agree. Countless times this season already I have seen him in space but doesn’t recieve the ball. He has an eye for a good pass and puts in a good cross. I’d start him over Bray . Bray is horrendous.
Bray horrendous. Wow, just wow
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 6 Dec 20:45
Very nearly put a bet on Arbroath to win at half time but thought, `no, we will improve`...
Arbroath were just a better team all round.
Could write a list of things wrong with our personnel and tactics but I can`t be bothered.
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Topic Originator: Hunter78
Date: Sat 6 Dec 21:10
Quote:
Parfect69, Sat 6 Dec 20:42
Quote:
NikNakPar, Sat 6 Dec 20:22
Caceres is a decent player. Unsure of the criticism. Didn’t do much today I agree. Countless times this season already I have seen him in space but doesn’t recieve the ball. He has an eye for a good pass and puts in a good cross. I’d start him over Bray . Bray is horrendous.
Bray horrendous. Wow, just wow
He is absolutely hopeless to be fair
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 6 Dec 21:33
Is Bray playing in his preferred position ? My understanding was he played RB and RW with ICT.
He`s a 19 year old laddie who spent his life on the Isle of Lewis, signed a pro contract 3 years ago and has had a handful of games at this level, bit early to write him off for me.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 6 Dec 21:36
``He is absolutely hopeless to be fair``
He`s 19. Have a word with yourself weirdo.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sat 6 Dec 21:45
Bray looked okay. He`s only 19, he will get better.
I`ve got to say, I am a bit disappointed after the game today. On the other hand Arbroath are a fit, well drilled, hard working team of experienced players. Our players are really just kids, and we are expecting them to compete- they aren`t far off it. We NEED a lot more experience in the team to help those youngsters along
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Sat 6 Dec 21:48
Quote:
Hunter78, Sat 6 Dec 21:10
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Parfect69, Sat 6 Dec 20:42
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NikNakPar, Sat 6 Dec 20:22
Caceres is a decent player. Unsure of the criticism. Didn’t do much today I agree. Countless times this season already I have seen him in space but doesn’t recieve the ball. He has an eye for a good pass and puts in a good cross. I’d start him over Bray . Bray is horrendous.
Bray horrendous. Wow, just wow
He is absolutely hopeless to be fair
Mr Happy is out. Only posts when we lose.
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Sat 6 Dec 22:06
I don`t think bray did anything today that would suggest he will continue to start. He`s young and hopefully will come good.
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Topic Originator: the saline hill puma
Date: Sat 6 Dec 22:11
Quote:
Swisspar, Sat 6 Dec 16:54
Quote:
Indiapar1, Sat 6 Dec 16:52
No surprising. They were the better side. We did nothing. At times I thought we were the part time side. They wanted it more
They came for a draw, got more than they expected!
They were by far the better over the game, must be deluded if you think they came for a draw
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Topic Originator: Patchy
Date: Sun 7 Dec 00:04
Not seen much chat about the Caceres foul at the end. Was it outside the box? Also, surely if it`s not a pen, it has to be a red card as it stopped a clear goalscoring opportunity?
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Topic Originator: Dunc1978
Date: Sun 7 Dec 00:05
When you are not playing well, but still doing enough to grind out a result, you need to do the basics right. And that means not constantly putting yourself under pressure by giving the ball away cheaply and leaving the tallest guy on the pitch unmarked near your six-yard box -- twice. Agree about TOB, but feel like Caceres has by far the most potential in the side to unlock a defence. He just hasn`t been doing it enough recently, but there`s not too many who can be happy with how they`ve been performing these last few weeks.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sun 7 Dec 00:42
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Hunter78, Sat 6 Dec 21:10
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Parfect69, Sat 6 Dec 20:42
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NikNakPar, Sat 6 Dec 20:22
Caceres is a decent player. Unsure of the criticism. Didn’t do much today I agree. Countless times this season already I have seen him in space but doesn’t recieve the ball. He has an eye for a good pass and puts in a good cross. I’d start him over Bray . Bray is horrendous.
Bray horrendous. Wow, just wow
He is absolutely hopeless to be fair
Good try, not even close
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sun 7 Dec 08:13
Quote:
Patchy, Sun 7 Dec 00:04
Not seen much chat about the Caceres foul at the end. Was it outside the box? Also, surely if it`s not a pen, it has to be a red card as it stopped a clear goalscoring opportunity?
From my seat, it looked just outside the box but his momentum took him in. Was a clear goal scoring opportunity though, so definitely a red.
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Sun 7 Dec 09:39
The ref is supposed to allow the foul to continue, and if it ends in the box its a penalty. Thats clearly what happened.
It also, for me fits the definition of denying a goal scoring opportunity. No attempt to play the ball, no defenders in a position to intercept - shouldve been a red card .
Throw in the blatant shove in Tod`s back for a penalty earlier, the foul that never was the for the 3rd at Dingwall and the even more blatant red card/penalty not given against Partick, then they are racking up the key mistakes.
Considering how many penalties we got last year, it feels this season they are terrified of making big calls.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 7 Dec 10:03
I heard a few comments that the ref only took 7 or 8 steps in measuring out the 10 yards for the wall. I suppose he has long legs but the wall seemed to be no more than a couple of yards behind the penalty spot which is only 6 yards from the line!
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sun 7 Dec 10:09
I said to my Grandson at the time the Ref had only taken 8 steps , on Par with most of the Refs in this division can,t count.
G.B
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Sun 7 Dec 10:11
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wee eck, Sun 7 Dec 10:03
I heard a few comments that the ref only took 7 or 8 steps in measuring out the 10 yards for the wall. I suppose he has long legs but the wall seemed to be no more than a couple of yards behind the penalty spot which is only 6 yards from the line!
He only took 8 steps but given that we were on the 18 yard box and they were 2 yards from the 6 yard box, then was ok for me, but he did only take 8 steps.
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Topic Originator: Kozmano1
Date: Sun 7 Dec 10:23
Too many players at the moment seem to watch the game pass them by - Caceres doesn’t off nothing for me, too light weight. He has that Ben Summers vibe.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 7 Dec 10:36
Seems odd to pick on someone who was a late sub when the midfield wasn`t really functioning for the whole of the game. Caceres is probably used to playing with better players who take up better positions or make better runs than ours.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sun 7 Dec 11:00
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parsmad68, Sun 7 Dec 10:11
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wee eck, Sun 7 Dec 10:03
I heard a few comments that the ref only took 7 or 8 steps in measuring out the 10 yards for the wall. I suppose he has long legs but the wall seemed to be no more than a couple of yards behind the penalty spot which is only 6 yards from the line!
He only took 8 steps but given that we were on the 18 yard box and they were 2 yards from the 6 yard box, then was ok for me, but he did only take 8 steps.
Made no difference, we didn’t take a shot at goal anyway. Madness
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 7 Dec 11:50
Too many players not at their best. Missed Gilmour in midfield and we could have done with Bene`s experience at the back after we went in front, but it would have been an undeserved 3 pts if we`d held on. We played far too many easy passes in front of them, sideways and backwards. I`m surprised Socks hasn`t been on to have a rant about it - it`s his pet hate.
Arbroath appeared set up for a draw and were very comfortable with it. When we scored, they had to push forward and could see they were causing us real problems. Said to my pals, I`d take the draw when they equalised. No surprise when they scored again at the death, but sickening all the same. I thought Caceres had been pulled down inside the box but haven`t seen the highlights.
I made Terrell our MOTM which speaks volumes.....
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sun 7 Dec 13:01
I have watched several games where Caceres has been in good positions but not given the ball. I thought we were too static up front and a bit headless chicken at times. Arbroath are physically bigger and stronger and we never got to grips in midfield.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sun 7 Dec 13:58
Bring Gilmour, Rudden and Bene back in and we don’t lose that match yesterday.
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Topic Originator: Kozmano1
Date: Sun 7 Dec 15:12
Not odd at all. Caceres cost us at the equaliser. Lost the ball in the middle of the park, and that opened us up, then they scored.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 7 Dec 15:42
What about the defending of the cross? Is that not a bigger contributory factor to the equaliser?
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sun 7 Dec 16:01
I wouldn`t blame Cacares for Arbroath`s first goal , there was a lot of play before they got their goal, and I have watched it a fewl times there was several Pars players around Kabongolo and I cannot see anyone actually jumping with him , it was a free header and to get done a second time from the same person says it all , too many players weren`t switched on at either goal and actually throughout the game , we got our just dessert in the end especially when you cannot clear your lines and keep giving the ball away to the opposition
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Sun 7 Dec 16:09
I agree with Wee Eck that Caceres is probably used to playing with better players around him, that he does take up good positions, and other players are failing to pass to him when he does.
Nevertheless I`m not seeing any signs that that is going to change. I don`t recall the manager or anybody in the team mentioning it, so I don`t think there`s any work being done to make the team fit Caceres style of play. As for being able to unlock a defence, I don`t agree - I think Kearney and Fraser and others putting in good crosses, and having players where they can attack the ball, as Chris Kane and Barney do, plus Andrew`s creativity around the box - these are getting goals. How many of Caceres `unlocking of defences` has resulted in goals?
The point I`m making is, as I said earlier, I don`t think Caceres, Amade, or TOB are going to fit our team. It happens with very good players and the best of teams. An example: Juan Sebastian Veron, the most expensive player in British transfer history couldn`t adapt from Italian to English football with Man Utd.
And I`m a wee bit worried that NL might be more inclined to go for `style over substance` when what we need are a couple of Scott Brown types.
Post Edited (Sun 07 Dec 16:27)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 7 Dec 16:26
Mon the Jambos (ko3pm)
Celtic 1-2 Hearts
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sun 07 Dec 16:54)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 7 Dec 16:54
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buffy, Sun 7 Dec 16:26
Mon the Jambos (ko3pm)
Celtic 0-2 Hearts
Not a great start for Nancy.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 7 Dec 16:56
Mon the Jambos
Celtic 1-2 Hearts FT
No so fancy Nancy
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Sun 7 Dec 17:11
Martin O`Neill wearing a wry smile ...
(Not sure what this has to do with yesterday's match, though!)
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Post Edited (Sun 07 Dec 17:13)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 7 Dec 17:29
Some Celtic fans already saying Nancy is `out of his depth`. Apparently he was seen moving magnets around on a board during the match.
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Sun 7 Dec 21:04
To lose a goal in the last minute is usually a real sickener, but this didn’t feel quite so bad for some reason. Maybe because it wasn’t robbery, maybe because it doesn’t matter so much just yet.
Arbroath were above us in the table, and the result could have been predicted (see Wetherby on the other thread) although I had thought we would prevail.
One test of a manager is the extent to which they balance consistency of approach, with freshness. Stick or twist. I think we have looked a little stale of late. absences of key players haven’t helped, but that’s a common issue. Gilmour coming back next week decides itself, but the cup game offers some opportunities to gain confidence or fluency, although it’s perhaps the younger players who might need a rest, rather than a run out.
We do look a little insipid in midfield – I feel Hamilton and Amade are better suited to a defensive role- sticking a foot in and keeping possession and so on, rather than a creative one. Nice to bring on to defend a lead with 20 minutes to go. Although that was what we failed to do (although normally we are pretty good at closing games out).
TOB is a frustrating player – I think there is a player in there, but he doesn’t seem to want to come out. He reminds me a little of seeing first team players playing for the reserves/u18s. Every so often they show a touch of class that suggests they could dominate if they wanted to, but that’s not really the point of their selection. He doesn’t do enough for me. Bray, meanwhile, looks like a lower league/younger player. His game seems to be based on flicks and tricks and getting into the box at the right time. The former doesn’t work at a higher level against better players. the latter is a useful asset and I think he has contributed to our last 3 goals. It may take time to adapt and learn. Which seems increasingly what this season is about.
Todd again looked dangerous in the first half – some decent balls into the box, but no takers. Better crosses required, or better positioning? Or better luck. I assume the defences adapt to snuff out the threat from this area, but I think it was his cross that led to our goal – great finish from Barney – he seemed to know it was in when he headed it.
Looking at it again, I think Cáceres was fouled outside the box and made sure he fell a long way inside. A clear goal-scoring chance, but lots of players between him and the goal so I don’t think a red-card was ever likely. We messed up the free-kick, but I think it was worth a try – you could see Todd edging further and further away unnoticed. I assume that referees learn how to measure 10 yards at referee school. If it’s 8 strides for him, then it’s 8 strides.
Post Edited (Sun 07 Dec 21:05)
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Sun 7 Dec 21:06
Four substitution stoppages, so Abdulai’s must have been for a concussion, which chimes with the quick decision (and presumably the protocol will rule him out for a bit). Whether Lennon had an input to the sub, I don’t know, but Otoo did fine at LCB and JT fine moving to CCB, other than the question marks over the goals.
Overall, disappointing, but midtable games will often be decided by the odd goal. We need to learn from our mistakes.
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Topic Originator: Dunc1978
Date: Mon 8 Dec 03:49
Caceres was instrumental in our best performance of the season, the 5-1 game at Gayfield. He also provided a fantastic assist for Rory MacLeod against Saints at McDiarmid Park. Agree that he has faded since then, but he did enough (for me anyway) in those earlier games to suggest that he could be a key source of creativity in the team.
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