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Topic Originator: KilsythPar
Date: Sat 20 Dec 19:48
Having just listened to iain Brunskill`s after match comments I was astounded to hear him say it was not about tactics or team selection as to why we lost.
I beg to differ. It was definitely down to that. Whoever picked that starting line up and formation should take full responsibility for that 1st half performance.
Unfortunately, he just blamed the players.
We know Hamilton is not a right back. He doesn`t seem to know that.
We know we are better with 3 at the back. Too late to wait until half time to change it.
Why on earth was Barney left on the bench? He`s been the only one scoring of late.
Please take some responsibility Mr. Brunskill.
C`mon
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 20 Dec 19:53
Quote:
KilsythPar, Sat 20 Dec 19:48
Having just listened to iain Brunskill`s after match comments I was astounded to hear him say it was not about tactics or team selection as to why we lost.
I beg to differ. It was definitely down to that. Whoever picked that starting line up and formation should take full responsibility for that 1st half performance.
Unfortunately, he just blamed the players.
We know Hamilton is not a right back. He doesn`t seem to know that.
We know we are better with 3 at the back. Too late to wait until half time to change it.
Why on earth was Barney left on the bench? He`s been the only one scoring of late.
Please take some responsibility Mr. Brunskill.
We thought the same when we saw the lineup. We were talking about that during the game. Why not play CH in the centre or a proven centre half. Play Bene even for the first 45 given we have a reputation for losing early goals. We were out of it by half time and by then it was all too late.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 20 Dec 19:54
Cant argue with that. We all saw that line up as very questionable.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sat 20 Dec 20:14
"Whoever picked that starting line up and formation should take full responsibility for that 1st half performance."
Ngwenya for Abdulai was the only change in the line up or formation from the final 30mins of last week at Queens Park, it wasnt a surprise to see them try that again.
what he said about the basics was spot on, what he said Tuesday night post match about having a better idea about what is needed going forward after that game etc was more of a problem. been in the job 9 months and it takes till now to work that out, it was clear in the 9 weeks at the end of last season and a lot of that has not been addressed.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sat 20 Dec 20:25
Quote:
KilsythPar, Sat 20 Dec 19:48
Having just listened to iain Brunskill`s after match comments I was astounded to hear him say it was not about tactics or team selection as to why we lost.
I beg to differ. It was definitely down to that. Whoever picked that starting line up and formation should take full responsibility for that 1st half performance.
Unfortunately, he just blamed the players.
We know Hamilton is not a right back. He doesn`t seem to know that.
We know we are better with 3 at the back. Too late to wait until half time to change it.
Why on earth was Barney left on the bench? He`s been the only one scoring of late.
Please take some responsibility Mr. Brunskill.
I agree with every single word of this. I looked at the lineups before kickoff and thought this may not go well. And so it proved. If it`s nothing to do with team selection or formation, what do we need a manager for? Brunskill has dropped in my estimation after that interview. The team selection and formation cost us the game.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 20 Dec 20:44
It was a poor interview. Players were picked in positions that were obviously wrong for them so some accountability should have been shown.
On the tactics under this management team - I was hoping to see a significant change after enduring McPake/Tidser ball but all too often it`s still the horseshoe of death.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Sat 20 Dec 20:48
I am getting very fed up reading that management need to learn from the first half performance. I think I have read that every week for last four weeks.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 20 Dec 21:06
With Abdulai out I fully expected Bene to come right in as Mullen needs a commanding presense alongside him.
The defence were an utter shambles first half with no leadership at all. Keeper to blame for their second with hesitation whether to come for the ball and made it easy for their attacker to nod it in.
Three very very poor goals to lose.
Hamilton likes to be influential whether CB or center midfield so it was bemusing he was placed as right back where he wasn’t used to playing and he had a nightmare there.
I don’t know who picked that team but it was ALL wrong.
Thankfully the second half gave us fans something to cheer and we wouldn’t have been surprised if we’d sneaked a draw but the damage was already done.
We got bullied the first half and the fight in the team to counteract that was not evident until the second half where I am certain they got a bollocking at half time.
I think it’s fair to blame the coaching staff on this occasion. Lennon maybe didn’t get too involved in the process of picking that eleven.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Sat 20 Dec 21:09
What formation is the team trying to play..knocking the ball left to right at the back isn’t going to get anywhere… 4-4-2 and get the wide boys attacking?
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 20 Dec 21:49
I think the phrase horses for courses springs to mind.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Sat 20 Dec 23:42
It wasn’t about team selection and tactics but he changed both the tactics and personal at half time ? From 3-0 to 3-2… no one’s buying that mate.
Effe
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sun 21 Dec 00:31
Could not believe how static the defence was .Said to my relative next to me ,I could have scored with any of those chances Ayr had,they got so much time and room. We just will not clear our lines,basic stuff. So passive,it’s infuriating to watch.
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Topic Originator: macapar
Date: Sun 21 Dec 08:49
All the havering, it`s 0 points at the end of the match.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 21 Dec 10:34
Interesting quotes from Oliver Glasner after his team lost to Leeds yesterday.
"No, fatigue is no excuse. I think we had the wrong mindset today. Maybe I spoke too much about tactics before the game against the 3-5-2 and not enough about the basics, because we lost every second ball. It was the basics."
"They were much better than we were today. You have to do the basics first, then you can talk about tactics. Today everybody should be disappointed and think what they can do better, I always start with myself. I will find the right answer and let the players know tomorrow." (@BBCSport)
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sun 21 Dec 19:48
Everytime I hear Brunskill I think he`s watching a different game. I think he has had a big part in our recent form since he`s had to take a lot of the slack with Lennon being suspended and the passing of his dad.
Looking forward to Neil getting back in the dugout and full focus on the team. Really been a drop off in the effort and energy of out team in the last month since Lennon has been away.
I think back to the effort shown and fight in that St Johnstone game just over a month ago. Then the heartless rubbish I seen in recent weeks. Some drop off.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sun 21 Dec 20:58
You just wonder what Lenny sees in Brunskill
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sun 21 Dec 21:02
I think he knows where the issues are, and it better sorted out behind closed doors. It`s always a fine line between honesty and criticism after a poor game, its not important what is said post match, its important how you address it for the following week.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 22 Dec 07:42
Quote:
Indiapar1, Sun 21 Dec 21:02
I think he knows where the issues are, and it better sorted out behind closed doors. It`s always a fine line between honesty and criticism after a poor game, its not important what is said post match, its important how you address it for the following week.
Nailed it, Indiapar. 🙂
I think we`ll see an upturn in results and performances now that the manager is back with his hand on the tiller.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 22 Dec 10:00
In fairness to Iain Brunskill he has always been a coach rather than a manager, starting at the Liveepool academy, and we all know there`s a big difference between the two roles. Now that NL has returned IB should be back in his comfort zone and not distracted by other duties.
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Topic Originator: partake
Date: Mon 22 Dec 12:15
under lennons 2 predecessors from the time we got back to the championship to when they left we collected 72 points in 63 games which is 1.13 points per game, under wee neil its 31 points in 27 games = 1.15 per game. A tiny, almost microscopic, improvement. clearly we need january re-inforcements in all areas of the pitch.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Mon 22 Dec 12:46
Quote:
partake, Mon 22 Dec 12:15
clearly we need january re-inforcements in all areas of the pitch.
I’m not saying you were one of them Partake, but this is why I was stunned at the shouts for Lennon to go on Saturday. He, and IB, have both been open about the fact they are still in the hunt for new players and that the squad is only the beginning of where they want to take us.
Loving You, Is In My DNA 🇾🇪
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Mon 22 Dec 13:29
"clearly we need january re-inforcements in all areas of the pitch."
whether the right players are available or not, changes could depend on how many of the current squad depart which will not be easy to get rid off a lot of them.
"He, and IB, have both been open about the fact they are still in the hunt for new players and that the squad is only the beginning of where they want to take us."
no manager gets every transfer and contract right but different decisions last summer maybe could have had us further forward.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Mon 22 Dec 13:30
Quote:
Buster_Brown, Mon 22 Dec 12:46
Quote:
partake, Mon 22 Dec 12:15
clearly we need january re-inforcements in all areas of the pitch.
I’m not saying you were one of them Partake, but this is why I was stunned at the shouts for Lennon to go on Saturday. He, and IB, have both been open about the fact they are still in the hunt for new players and that the squad is only the beginning of where they want to take us.
Wow, didn’t realise that Buster. Glad I sit in a reasonable area of the NW where we just thought Santa had come early for Ayr.
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Topic Originator: bannerpar
Date: Mon 22 Dec 16:55
Ayr will never score three easier goals. Often when a team loses a goal you can point to one player not having done his job properly. On Saturday in the case of all three goals you could identify at least three players who could have done better at each of them. The team selection wasn`t the best but we don`t know what considerations came into the thinking re injured and not fully fit players. Iain Brunskill was just stating the facts when saying our problems lay in players not doing the basics well enough.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Mon 22 Dec 17:18
I think KN deserves to start against Raith. I have always thought he has potential. He has the right physical attributes to play in the championship. He has pace and height. It`s just about him playing the style that you want to play. I see him playing a role in the second half of the season
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Mon 22 Dec 20:29
Ref: Gaz3822 Sun 21 Dec 20:58
"You just wonder what Lenny sees in Brunskill"
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Probably the good assistant manager he is, who Lennon has worked with before, whose inputs he values as an experienced coach. His job title "assistant manager" is significant. He didn`t apply to be manager, co-manager or deputy manager, he applied to be assistant manager, which he is. I`ve sensed recently that he`s not comfortable in the position he`s been left, during the manager`s enforced absence. I think IB indicated that he would be very keen to see the manager return, which is fair enough, I think.
I don`t think it`s at all fair to judge him as a replacement manager, or whatever you`d describe his position has been in the absence of the manager. He has still been "assistant manager," having to fill-in to a certain degree for the manager, and that is a very different job.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Mon 22 Dec 20:47
But surely Lennon and him can still talk about team selections and tactics ?
If so then its Lennons poor selection and tactics on Saturday and Brunskill would just be implementing them then....makes it worse if that`s the case
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Mon 22 Dec 20:51
On the other hand though, maybe not the case Gaz! Not the best idea to be making those assumptions.
Post Edited (Mon 22 Dec 20:58)
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Mon 22 Dec 20:59
Why ? Or do you know they didn`t speak ?
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Mon 22 Dec 21:37
Could be a completely different job, with each bringing their own skills.
Maybe Ians expertise is training, conditioning etc, whereas NL can be a more traditional manager, I don`t know, it`s up to them. Certainly for pre season I can remember quite in depth interviews with him, so this is clearly his interest/ expertise.
There`s plenty top coaches who have no intention of being a head coach or manager, don`t forget Steve Clark was a top drawer coach , before latterly becoming a manager.
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Mon 22 Dec 21:51
Ref: Gaz3822 Mon 22 Dec 20:59
`Why ? Or do you know they didn`t speak ?`
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Ye never know... ye jist never know.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Tue 23 Dec 08:26
Whether Brunskill or Lennon picked the team and formation, whoever it was got it badly wrong, a lot of fans recognised that before a ball was kicked, thus the corrective measures at half time. Brunskill compounded the error by blaming the players when he should have been honest and admitted the team was all wrong in the first half. No excuse for that.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Tue 23 Dec 19:45
There is no doubt we are much better than we were this time last season. There is obviously room for improvement but its small steps. If we can be more consistent and perform at a high level each week we are still capable of a top 4 spot.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Tue 23 Dec 21:26
``Brunskill compounded the error by blaming the players when he should have been honest and admitted the team was all wrong``
Which leads me to believe he has been picking the team.
Anyway, he can go back in the shadows and Lennon can hopefully get this lot energised and motovated again. They have looked so lethargic for most of our recent games. Only when the game is slipping away they seem to look up for it.
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Topic Originator: DunPar
Date: Wed 24 Dec 02:42
I’m pretty sure that Lennon didn’t get the players he wanted in summer and he’ll be looking to get two or three more in the door in January including someone of similar ilk as himself to hold the ball in midfield and add a bit of composure and steadiness as well as a striker.
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