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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sun 21 Dec 10:04
In the chaos since the internationals, senior, u21 and u18s, we have gone backwards big time.
Where is the manager in all this, he seems to have had an early xmas break. We know the issues with refs and sfa, but where is he???, hes silent. And invisible.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Sun 21 Dec 10:05
Find the abuse aimed at Lennon in really poor taste at the minute. Let’s not forget his father died the other week andd in the fact he’s not been in the dugout or involved at all during a game day for the last 4 matches.
Let’s not forget he’s human and maybe hasn’t been fully on the ball over the last fortnight. Also he’s much a touch line manager, anyone sitting in the main stand will see that. I think the team miss his encouragement from the sidelines.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sun 21 Dec 10:07
2 answers to the question here….he’s silent and invisible because he is under a 4 game SFA ban, which means he can’t be near the dressing room on match days and he can’t speak to the media.
Amongst that, as per the clubs official communications, his Dad has sadly passed away so he has been spending time with his family, and quite rightly so.
However, there’s a photo going around of James Bord at the game yesterday, and Lennon was in the Directors box and yesterday was the last game of his ban.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 21 Dec 10:10
Happy Sunday thebear.
1. Search the news
2. Read the articles or get someone to read them to you
3. If 1 & 2 had already been completed before you posted I`d add Don`t be a fud
If anything, this might suggest we`re too reliant on one man, not that he`s not performing. And that structural stuff takes time to change.
Love ipswich
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Sun 21 Dec 11:04
Terrible post from the bear. Under the circumstances, was
in very poor taste
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sun 21 Dec 12:04
Disagree, no abuse given and none intended., was it insensitive, certainly not planned.
It was a simple question asking, why he has not been seen or heard, i was aware of sfa ban and also that his father had died. Dont need to trawl the net to work this out.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sun 21 Dec 12:11
I think anyone who has lost parents knows that it takes time to get over that. Not only the time to grieve, but there are things that need to be sorted out legally and funerals to prepare for. I would think the last thing on his mind would be football. Quite frankly, why would he be putting football first.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 21 Dec 12:38
I think we probably have to judge Lennon after January and maybe after next next summer. Half the squad are not his players and are not good enough. We probably have about 12 players who on their day are decent championship players. Some will improve and go onwards, some won’t.
If you look at it we’ve been left relying on the Todd brothers, McLeod, bray, Kearney, JCM, jeffy and Fraser and non of them have played a full season at anywhere near this level. It was going to catch up with us eventually.
Injuries to rudden, Kane’s continual problems and Bene’s fitness hasn’t helped either. Lennon didn’t help himself keeping tash tho.
This squad was going nowhere but down and now we look like we could finish around 5-7, so some improvement despite still being saddled with a lot of last seasons dross.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Sun 21 Dec 14:06
Quote:
thebear, Sun 21 Dec 12:04
Disagree, no abuse given and none intended., was it insensitive, certainly not planned.
It was a simple question asking, why he has not been seen or heard, i was aware of sfa ban and also that his father had died. Dont need to trawl the net to work this out.
So what you are saying is you are incapable of human empathy - cool 🙄
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Sun 21 Dec 15:09
The Bear is either a sociopath or a bit thick.
Get this thread deleted please mods.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 21 Dec 16:16
Quote:
thebear, Sun 21 Dec 12:04
Disagree, no abuse given and none intended., was it insensitive, certainly not planned.
It was a simple question asking, why he has not been seen or heard, i was aware of sfa ban and also that his father had died. Dont need to trawl the net to work this out.
You can disagree all you want. The fact you knew about all the issues makes your OP all the worse.
Take a minute to think about it and issue the well overdue apology or just remain the fud of the year. Your choice.
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Topic Originator: istvan kozma
Date: Sun 21 Dec 21:02
😃
KOZMA
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 22 Dec 08:09
Given what`s been goong on, very poor post.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Mon 22 Dec 10:33
Quote:
thebear, Sun 21 Dec 10:04
In the chaos since the internationals, senior, u21 and u18s, we have gone backwards big time.
Where is the manager in all this, he seems to have had an early xmas break. We know the issues with refs and sfa, but where is he???, hes silent. And invisible.
Honestly, hang your head in shame. You’re accusing someone of being “silent and invisible” while conveniently ignoring the fact that he’s been at home dealing with the death of his father. That’s not an early Christmas break — that’s bereavement.
Football doesn’t stop being important, but it also doesn’t outrank basic human decency. Managers aren’t robots wheeled out to satisfy fan anger on demand. Sometimes they’re sons, fathers, and human beings who’ve just lost a parent.
Criticise performances, tactics, selections — all fair game. But questioning a man’s presence or commitment while he’s grieving crosses a line. It says far more about the person making the comment than it does about the manager himself.
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Mon 22 Dec 11:15
I`ve been on this forum for about 23 years and this thread is easily one of the worst I`ve ever seen.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Mon 22 Dec 11:53
Quote:
Athletico, Mon 22 Dec 10:33
Quote:
thebear, Sun 21 Dec 10:04
In the chaos since the internationals, senior, u21 and u18s, we have gone backwards big time.
Where is the manager in all this, he seems to have had an early xmas break. We know the issues with refs and sfa, but where is he???, hes silent. And invisible.
Honestly, hang your head in shame. You’re accusing someone of being “silent and invisible” while conveniently ignoring the fact that he’s been at home dealing with the death of his father. That’s not an early Christmas break — that’s bereavement.
Football doesn’t stop being important, but it also doesn’t outrank basic human decency. Managers aren’t robots wheeled out to satisfy fan anger on demand. Sometimes they’re sons, fathers, and human beings who’ve just lost a parent.
Criticise performances, tactics, selections — all fair game. But questioning a man’s presence or commitment while he’s grieving crosses a line. It says far more about the person making the comment than it does about the manager himself.
Absolutely spot on! 👏🏻👏🏻
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General Zod, Mon 22 Dec 11:15
I`ve been on this forum for about 23 years and this thread is easily one of the worst I`ve ever seen.
When you consider some of those that have disappeared over that time, I’m actually stunned this one has been kept!
Loving You, Is In My DNA 🇾🇪
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 22 Dec 12:10
I was thinking the same there - how has this thread survived but the one about the Rovers fans got deleted before being restarted then moved?
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 22 Dec 13:20
I think the handle ‘The Bear’ might have something to do with this thread.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: BigTpar1986
Date: Mon 22 Dec 13:58
The spin put on some things on .net is actually mind blowing! It’s like a really poor social experiment.
A person has a very poor opinion regarding on a forum that exists to speak about all things The Pars. The majority of people disagree with said opinion - also something that a football forum is about!
But to tell someone to hang their head in shame and apologise for things he didn’t say but YOU interpreted it to infer?! Absolute snowflake and unicorn riding mentality!!
I see this as more a miscommunication of a valid point. Our form has definitely dipped significantly since all the international call ups.
Lennon is back at work and will be grieving still for a long time to come. But to suggest someone can’t be held responsible for their actions when they have opted to return to work after a bereavement is a totally different conversation.
I didn’t see any suggestion of him being given an extended festive holiday which is a ludicrous and very much keyboard warrior spin to put on a topic that is answered with a message rather than in person with tone or nuance.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 22 Dec 14:16
Quote:
BigTpar1986, Mon 22 Dec 13:58
The spin put on some things on .net is actually mind blowing! It’s like a really poor social experiment.
A person has a very poor opinion regarding on a forum that exists to speak about all things The Pars. The majority of people disagree with said opinion - also something that a football forum is about!
But to tell someone to hang their head in shame and apologise for things he didn’t say but YOU interpreted it to infer?! Absolute snowflake and unicorn riding mentality!!
I see this as more a miscommunication of a valid point. Our form has definitely dipped significantly since all the international call ups.
Lennon is back at work and will be grieving still for a long time to come. But to suggest someone can’t be held responsible for their actions when they have opted to return to work after a bereavement is a totally different conversation.
I didn’t see any suggestion of him being given an extended festive holiday which is a ludicrous and very much keyboard warrior spin to put on a topic that is answered with a message rather than in person with tone or nuance.
Nope. It`s always nice to be nice and give benefit of doubt, but that OP is perfectly clear. No interpretation required.
Regardless, even if it was misunderstood it would be prudent to apologise for a poorly thought out, poorly delivered comment.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 22 Dec 16:52
“Unicorn riding mentality”
Geez, I’m old. I’ve no idea what this means
PS. It’s a poor thread. Neil has lost his dad recently.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Mon 22 Dec 20:42)
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Mon 22 Dec 20:27
Sorry I posted on the wrong thread so I`ve deleted it and posted it on the `team selection and tactics` thread as intended.
Post Edited (Mon 22 Dec 20:32)
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Tue 23 Dec 16:31
We’ve gone backwards recently due to having to play players who aren’t good enough.
When everyone is fit we have a good starting 11 but the rest of the squad just don’t cut it.
I’m sure once the rest of the deadwood leave and replacements are brought it, we’ll see a truer version of what Lennon is trying to achieve.
Post Edited (Tue 23 Dec 16:32)
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Wed 24 Dec 15:13
Quote:
General Zod, Mon 22 Dec 11:15
this thread is easily one of the worst I`ve ever seen.
I’ll second that.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Wed 24 Dec 15:19
Surely this can now be closed as it serves no purpose
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