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 Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 18:21

What is it?

Over confidence? I`ve heard it said that if you take the field feeling over confident you`re liable to get stuffed, and there may not be time enough in a match to correct it.

But teams do, sometimes wake up during a game.

How did the first goal not wake us up?

Is it lack of leadership on the field?

I don`t understand the psychology of players who do what we did against Rovers, Hibs and Saints, and then go backwards, like off a cliff. Is there a weight of expectation problem when we play at EEP?

Not against Hibs.

Do we have a specialist Psychologist/Motivator on our staff? Is it lack of motivation - or what?



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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: PARadise  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 18:27

The sign of a top team is one where they set the standard regardless of who they’re playing. Lennons quite right to go through them for today. If any of those boys have aspirations of not being a Scottish Championship player all their days they’d do well to listen.

The lack of intensity was our problem today which has been the case multiple times at home this season.

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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 18:32

This mucking about with the captaincy is not helping matters. Benny is spent. Hamilton is too troublesome. And Mullen is not ready.

NL needs to rethink the captaincy for the run-in. It is such an important role. On the face of it, there would be two or three good candidates, but without knowing their personalities, this has to be a decision for NL.

Nevertheless, the current situation with the captaincy is definitely unsatisfactory.

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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: Sacktheref69  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 18:39

Definitely looked like a mentality issue today. That said, I don’t think it’s a major problem just yet. But if we go into Kelty with the same attitude of just turning up and expecting to get the win, we’ll be in real trouble. That’s exactly the sort of game where you get punished for complacency. A few players needing a big reality check before then.

This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 18:39

`Lack of intensity` you say Paradise. Like not getting fired up enough? But what is lacking in them, if they can`t see the objective (top four + satisfied fans and management) - win bonus as well. Are they jaded from their efforts in the big games?

Could a Roy Barry have got them going today? Now I`m thinking of the semi finals in `68 v St Johnstone and how lacklustre we were - even with R B for captain.

Is there an answer/ solution to the problem? NL says they`re gonna work on it. I wonder what that will involve?

I think a strong, vocal captain must be part of the answer. But probably not Ashcroft type. Needs to be hard but fair - Roy Barry or Norrie type? We don`t have such a person.



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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 18:47

The captain does not need to be only the one with the armband, we should have leaders all over the park, unfortunately we do not have many players with the mentality to take charge.

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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 18:49

We haven’t managed to string together 3 league wins for some time and not this season.

There will still be hangover from the last 3-4 years of poor performance because A some of those players are still in the team and B the more goal players in the team are also possibly the weaker performers such as Hamilton and Bene who can’t get in the team now.

We’re still a bit fragile and easy to defend against. Only way to improve this is remove the last of the previous regime who were no strangers to losing and throwing in the towel and just get better players in who have the right character to set the standard expected.

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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 18:49

"NL says they`re gonna work on it. I wonder what that will involve?"

new players come to mind.

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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 18:53

Yeh, it needn`t be a case of bullying - just a closeness maybe - pals that stick together and fight - maybe our players don`t know each other well enough - need more bonding?

I would think a big part of what a manager does is working on players` psychology. I think NL is likely to see it as a personal challenge, and get tore in!



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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 18:58

We are better when teams are coming at us.

Don`t seem to be able to break down and play through teams who are happy to sit in and play against us on the counter attack.

Lack of creativity, quality or mentality or a bit of all three but it`s becoming a theme at home.

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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: Ianoappar  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 19:19

All good teams have leaders and players that verbally communicate on the park,have said it foe a while we don`t hear any voices from this team,Benedictus was vocal but since his absence there`s been nothing.
It`s been ongoing in football for many years that players after a few good results think because they are playing a so-called lesser team don`t apply themselves properly,hence the result today.
On to the Scottish Cup next week and maybe just maybe today was a wake up call.

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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 19:28

Btw I think Morrison was good today. It was a shame he was stuck with Rudden who worked hard but didn’t show enough quality and A Tod who showed a little bit of quality when he got involved but largely stood around watching the game. Hopefully Morrison can continue to have a positive influence at that end of the park but he’s going to need the guys roundabout him to do their bit as well.

The back 3, Gilmour, Fraser and Morrison all got pass marks from me. Everyone else seemed to have a howler

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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 19:58

Quote:

NMCmassive, Sat 31 Jan 19:28

Btw I think Morrison was good today. It was a shame he was stuck with Rudden who worked hard but didn’t show enough quality and A Tod who showed a little bit of quality when he got involved but largely stood around watching the game. Hopefully Morrison can continue to have a positive influence at that end of the park but he’s going to need the guys roundabout him to do their bit as well.

The back 3, Gilmour, Fraser and Morrison all got pass marks from me. Everyone else seemed to have a howler



I thought only Morrison and Abdulia got pass marks, maybe Ngwenya and Gilmore at a push Thought the rest were poor. Surprised Fraser was so poor that’s unusual.
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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 20:32

Mullen shouldn’t be captain imo. Today for example, Gilmour was in the refs face for ages before he talked himself in to a yellow card. Mullen should have got him out of the way and he is the one who should be in the refs face as he is allowed to do this as captain, but he wasn’t even watching what was going on.
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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 20:50

Players need to play like their careers are at stake every week.
Turn up thinking a game might be easy is a disaster

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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: CrossPar  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 20:57

Think Mullen may have been given captain as an inducement to stay. Whether that works is debatable.
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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 21:00

It was quite simply we were not ready for Airdrie’s high intensity right from the kick off.
They managed early on to get in behind our defence with very clever runs and the linesman got some stick but he was spot on to be truthful.
We played well in spells afterwards but we look so weak up front.
Rudden and Morrison just do not work together and I was crying out for Kane to be on at half time.
Chris Hamilton had his worst game in months too but the whole team looked ‘Jittery’ today.

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 Re: Mentality Problem
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sat 31 Jan 21:05

"Gilmour was in the refs face for ages before he talked himself in to a yellow card."

he got booked for his reaction to Telfer`s rugby tackle on him, the referee was taking his time trying to work out if it was the correct players.

the captaincy was not the issue today.

"maybe just maybe today was a wake up call"

they have had more than enough this season alone, i dont see how another will make a difference.

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