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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Thu 2 Apr 11:22
With JCM playing in the U21 against Portugal, does that make him the most capped Scotland U21 to play for Dunfermline? If so, congratulations to him.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Thu 2 Apr 11:39
Yeah, believe he levelled with Jackie McNamara in the last game.
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Thu 2 Apr 20:14
If Wikipedia is correct then he`ll be 22 in June.
I wondered if this might preclude him from making any more appearances but it looks like eligibility is based on age/year born when the competition starts. So he`d be eligible for the remaining two European Championship qualifiers later this year and the final competition next summer (qualification looks unlikely however).
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 2 Apr 22:30
Kearney played 90 mins in centre midfield for NI under 21`s
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Fri 3 Apr 12:06
Bit quiet on whether JCM will be with us next season. Unless we get promoted I reckon he’s away. Could see him at Hibs or something. He’s going to be £1M at least player pretty soon. If we hold on to him then that’s massive for us.
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft21346327964
Date: Fri 3 Apr 12:55
I don’t know if it’s just bias from me thinking that he’s already leaving but if we could walk into next season with a back 3 of Ngwenya/Tod on the left Abdulai in the centre and have Turkey starting on the right I don’t think we lose much obviously even keeping him just for the depth in the squad as well would be amazing
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Fri 3 Apr 13:36
I fear we are going to lose him too.
But I agree with you, Abdulai Ngwenya etc can more than make up for it, plus I imagine we will have a fair bit of recruitment - Replacement for Bene (if he is not offered a contract )etc
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Topic Originator: Leamington_sPAR
Date: Fri 3 Apr 15:29
Quote:
General Zod, Fri 3 Apr 12:06
Bit quiet on whether JCM will be with us next season. Unless we get promoted I reckon he’s away. Could see him at Hibs or something. He’s going to be £1M at least player pretty soon. If we hold on to him then that’s massive for us.
We’ll be entitled to a development fee if he does go.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Fri 3 Apr 16:14
Quote:
Leamington_sPAR, Fri 3 Apr 15:29
Quote:
General Zod, Fri 3 Apr 12:06
Bit quiet on whether JCM will be with us next season. Unless we get promoted I reckon he’s away. Could see him at Hibs or something. He’s going to be £1M at least player pretty soon. If we hold on to him then that’s massive for us.
We’ll be entitled to a development fee if he does go.
How
COYP
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Topic Originator: Leamington_sPAR
Date: Fri 3 Apr 16:24
Quote:
shellypar, Fri 3 Apr 16:14
Quote:
Leamington_sPAR, Fri 3 Apr 15:29
Quote:
General Zod, Fri 3 Apr 12:06
Bit quiet on whether JCM will be with us next season. Unless we get promoted I reckon he’s away. Could see him at Hibs or something. He’s going to be £1M at least player pretty soon. If we hold on to him then that’s massive for us.
We’ll be entitled to a development fee if he does go.
How
He’s U23 and according to what I’ve read even if he goes as a free agent we should receive a development fee.
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Fri 3 Apr 16:26
You get a development fee for anyone who leaves your club u23 so long as you offer a contract the same or better terms as they were already on.
There`s a few factors at play but length of development is a big one and 18 months or so, especially towards the end of his defined development time will make the fee rather low compared to any potential transfer fee had he be under a long term contract
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Fri 3 Apr 18:32
I’ve no doubt the club want him to stay around but it might come down to personal ambition more so than financial benefit.
I too think it will depend on what league we are in next season.
He’s been given the captains armband on multiple occasions to sweeten him up as he doesn’t seem a natural captain on the park when we already have one in Gilmour.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Fri 3 Apr 22:15
Feeling the love can mean a lot to a player (or anyone)... he doesn`t know what he is getting if he signs for a league 1/Championship team down south. He knows the whole club love him here. 2 year contract. Sing his name North West !!
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Fri 3 Apr 23:02
Quote:
coventrypar, Fri 3 Apr 22:15
Feeling the love can mean a lot to a player (or anyone)... he doesn`t know what he is getting if he signs for a league 1/Championship team down south. He knows the whole club love him here. 2 year contract. Sing his name North West !!
He knows he`ll be getting double or triple his bank balance
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Topic Originator: Leamington_sPAR
Date: Sat 4 Apr 09:10
Quote:
nick_dafc1, Fri 3 Apr 23:02
Quote:
coventrypar, Fri 3 Apr 22:15
Feeling the love can mean a lot to a player (or anyone)... he doesn`t know what he is getting if he signs for a league 1/Championship team down south. He knows the whole club love him here. 2 year contract. Sing his name North West !!
He knows he`ll be getting double or triple his bank balance
According to Salary Sport Josh Edwards is earning £3100 a week. So yes I would expect JCM’s agent would be pushing for a similar salary.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 4 Apr 09:22
I would say he’s had a mixed season compared to being excellent second half of last season. Can look great in games and can also look a bit like a donkey too.
Hard one as to what happens with him but i don’t think it worsens us replacing him, ideally tod Abdulai and a more experienced centre back could even be an improvement in terms of leadership on the park etc.
The fact nothing has been said suggests he’s keeping his options open at this point so will have knocked back or thinking about the offers we will have made for him to stay.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft21346327964
Date: Sat 4 Apr 09:59
Yeah tbh we have a chance of being in Europe and in the prem next season he’d be silly to just run away the now to another team for the money because if he can go to them at the end of the season and be like look I can stay here and play European football anyone that comes in for him will have to entice him with big wages
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 4 Apr 10:02
I think NL is right. Keep the focus on finishing the league campaign then discuss contracts
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 4 Apr 11:15
John Tod and Sam Young could cover his absence along with Abdulai.
It's the agents that pull the strings!
Post Edited (Sat 04 Apr 11:16)
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Topic Originator: Geordiepar
Date: Sat 4 Apr 11:39
We only have John Tod and Abdulai under contract next season.
Would like to see us try to sign Turkey although he has another year under contract at Derby.
Offer JCM a new contract although I can’t see him staying.
Offer Ngenwa a new contract - been a revelation since moving to centre back.
Bend and O’too release and sign an experienced, commanding centre half to keep it together at the back.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 4 Apr 11:42
Quote:
Indiapar1, Sat 4 Apr 10:02
I think NL is right. Keep the focus on finishing the league campaign then discuss contracts
Exactly. I’ve seen a few interviews in our league from managers implying players downing tools who have their contracts running out.
That’s maybe a ploy to disguise bad results but Lennon seems to be keeping our lads hungry by not discussing contracts and quite rightly so.
We could end up promoted and potentially a cup win or we could go the opposite direction.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 7 May 14:32
Burton Albion are keen on Dunfermline Athletic defender Jeremiah Chilokoa-Mullen. Aberdeen have also been scouting the Scotland under-21 cap. The English League One side want to take the defender back down to England. The Brewers have already expressed their interest. Mullen will have a decision to make in the summer. The 21-year-old is trying to help Dunfermline through the Premiership play-offs before he can concentrate on the Scottish Cup final against Celtic.
(daily record)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 7 May 14:47
Nothing will happen until the season ends.
We could be in Europe and the SPL?
I’m sure he will have options, including one from us.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Thu 07 May 14:49)
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Thu 7 May 16:01
I’ve heard he’s asking for around the 5k mark. Potentially, he has an offer of, say, 4k and he’s trying to get the best deal he can. If we’re in the Premiership, I’d imagine these are the figures players will ask for. It’s hard to pay this kind of money in the Championship.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Thu 7 May 16:18
5k a week in the Championship is mental money!
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Thu 7 May 16:28
Quote:
Higgys Mohawk, Thu 7 May 16:18
5k a week in the Championship is mental money!
That’s what I was thinking. His agent might be saying that he’s heavily capped at U21 international level and has captained the side on numerous occasions. Still crazy money, I’d say.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Thu 7 May 16:55
Doesnt sound like a good option. They are 17th in league 1, with average gates lower than us. You could end up languishing as a player in the lower divisions.i suppose it depends where you think you best interests and future lie. Its not always about money but future potential. Personally, i think he would have a better options to stay with us, at least for another season to continue his development. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
G Wardrope
Post Edited (Thu 07 May 17:25)
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Thu 7 May 16:58
He can do one for 5k bye bye, he is not as good as he thinks.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Thu 7 May 17:01
His situation reminds me a bit of Faissal. He could learn a lot more by staying here for another year, but he’ll probably go elsewhere and get lost in the wind.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Thu 7 May 17:03
Quote:
Sacktheref69, Thu 7 May 16:01
I’ve heard he’s asking for around the 5k mark. Potentially, he has an offer of, say, 4k and he’s trying to get the best deal he can. If we’re in the Premiership, I’d imagine these are the figures players will ask for. It’s hard to pay this kind of money in the Championship.
From what i know 5k is a hefty exaggeration
COYP
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft21346327964
Date: Thu 7 May 17:36
The one thing I will say is I am a big fan of our owners then because could they give him 5k a week absolutely but to spend that on one player would take the money from every bit of budget we have next season think with the owners 15 years ago they would have given him it and we seen how that worked out
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Thu 7 May 21:16
I loved Faissal but come on, JCM is 10 times the player he was.
I don`t think it`s a good time to be spreading rumours about his wage demands btw
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Topic Originator: Jimmy riddell
Date: Thu 7 May 21:22
It’s not worth £5k at this time for one player at our level. There will be other more experienced players available when we would get a couple at least for that price.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 7 May 21:26
Yeah let`s not be spraying around unsubstantiated nonsense, let the boys, all of them, enjoy a fantastic end to a season not many of us saw coming.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 7 May 21:27
Quote:
Bannockburn Par, Thu 7 May 16:58
He can do one for 5k bye bye, he is not as good as he thinks.
Why the nastiness? The guy is entitled to earn as much money as he can, either with us or somewhere else. He owes us nothing.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: DRreturns
Date: Thu 7 May 21:49
I know for a fact Robbie Fraser was asking for £4k a week to sign permanently with Livingston but they couldn’t do that.
If we go up, £4-£5k per week would be a fair salary for some with his accolades & attributes.
Folk on here need to get out more and realise that wages are much more than they realise, Deniz Mehmet was on £1700pw with us in the league 1!!
I’m here to take over!!
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 7 May 21:58
Folk play a bit of Championship Manager and think they know what players wages are
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Thu 7 May 22:14
Quote:
Sacktheref69, Thu 7 May 16:01
I’ve heard he’s asking for around the 5k mark. Potentially, he has an offer of, say, 4k and he’s trying to get the best deal he can. If we’re in the Premiership, I’d imagine these are the figures players will ask for. It’s hard to pay this kind of money in the Championship.
Paying that sort of money just about killed us for 5k a week he can fk right off
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 7 May 22:23
"Fact" 😆 🤣 😂 😹
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: calum96
Date: Thu 7 May 22:28
There won’t be a single player in our squad on more than 2-2.5k per week. I’d imagine the average wage to be around 1-1.2k mark bringing the wage budget to around £1.5m.
If we are paying any more than that, I’d honestly be worried about heading back down the Masterton path again. It’s nice having a great team that’s playing well but I’d rather have a ***** team than have the clubs existence threatened again by spending outwith our means
JCM is worth 5k a week, anyone with any football knowledge can see how talented the laddie is. If he takes a step up I wish him all the best, but if any player is demanding those numbers from us we need to say thanks for your time at the club and see ya later
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Thu 7 May 22:40
I wouldnt speculate about player salaries. Like everyone else who earns a living the salary is a private matter.It is about the market rate and what someone is willing to pay set against the perceived benefit. The other consideration of course is the amount of tax you will pay on higher salaries based on the tax thresholds in Scotland. Tax thresholds are higher in England so any player moving would be likely to keep more of their money. It may be a consideration if moving South. There also daily travel and accommodation costs to consider.
G Wardrope
Post Edited (Fri 08 May 10:38)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 8 May 07:40
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Thu 7 May 21:26
Yeah let`s not be spraying around unsubstantiated nonsense, let the boys, all of them, enjoy a fantastic end to a season not many of us saw coming.
This
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 8 May 08:28
"Paying that sort of money just about killed us for 5k a week he can fk right off"
Indeed - living above our means resulted in the 11th April 2013 mess.
Fortunately I`m confident the new administration will bodyswerve a similar cavalier approach.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Fri 8 May 08:41
Amazing how a throw away “I’ve heard” comment can immediately be taken as fact and whip some folk into a frenzy 🤦🏻♂️
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Fri 8 May 10:25
I think this thread should be closed. Speculating about player salaries and their perceived `worth` isn`t productive at all. It risks divulging sensitive personal information that isn`t public, nor should it be. No good can come of it.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 8 May 10:44
Quote:
Bandy, Fri 8 May 10:25
I think this thread should be closed. Speculating about player salaries and their perceived `worth` isn`t productive at all. It risks divulging sensitive personal information that isn`t public, nor should it be. No good can come of it.
Agreed. Closed and deleted.
We`re in the middle of our best season in a decade yet some still feel the need to have a go at one of our best players, based on unsubstantiated Internet crap.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Fri 8 May 11:55
Quote:
da_no_1, Fri 8 May 10:44
Quote:
Bandy, Fri 8 May 10:25
I think this thread should be closed. Speculating about player salaries and their perceived `worth` isn`t productive at all. It risks divulging sensitive personal information that isn`t public, nor should it be. No good can come of it.
Agreed. Closed and deleted.
We`re in the middle of our best season in a decade yet some still feel the need to have a go at one of our best players, based on unsubstantiated Internet crap.
Agree ,sad to see this brought up at this time
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Topic Originator: DRreturns
Date: Fri 8 May 13:51
Closing a thread about discussing our most valuable player and what we should do to keep him??
It’s an open forum exactly for this type of discussion.
In terms of me knowing for a fact come from a friend who works for Livingston and informed me about Robbie Fraser signing for us prior to us announcing it.
It’s nothing to do with someone pretending to know something, it’s someone sharing information they’ve been given by a reliable source.
I better not mention the salary we offered Martin Boyle before he signed a new deal with Hibs, it would end up with people calling for .net to be closed indefinitely !!!!.
I’m here to take over!!
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Fri 8 May 14:18
I didn`t mention anything about people pretending stuff.
I said it`s not productive to share unverified personal information in a public forum. In fact there`s laws against doing so. I`m not a lawyer, or data protection expert, so I can`t give the nuance, but we`re definitely in a grey area.
I`d rather we`d stay out of it.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 8 May 14:27
It`s a huge leap from knowing what Livi offered Robbie Fraser to knowing what we`re now offering JCM.
And Martin Boyle hasn`t re-signed for Hibs. They didn`t make him an offer.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Fri 8 May 14:50
Quote:
DRreturns, Fri 8 May 13:51
Closing a thread about discussing our most valuable player and what we should do to keep him??
It’s an open forum exactly for this type of discussion.
In terms of me knowing for a fact come from a friend who works for Livingston and informed me about Robbie Fraser signing for us prior to us announcing it.
It’s nothing to do with someone pretending to know something, it’s someone sharing information they’ve been given by a reliable source.
I better not mention the salary we offered Martin Boyle before he signed a new deal with Hibs, it would end up with people calling for .net to be closed indefinitely !!!!.
Ur friend is needing to brush up on his info then, cos your way off neebur
COYP
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 8 May 16:34
Quote:
DRreturns, Fri 8 May 13:51
Closing a thread about discussing our most valuable player and what we should do to keep him??
It’s an open forum exactly for this type of discussion.
In terms of me knowing for a fact come from a friend who works for Livingston and informed me about Robbie Fraser signing for us prior to us announcing it.
It’s nothing to do with someone pretending to know something, it’s someone sharing information they’ve been given by a reliable source.
I better not mention the salary we offered Martin Boyle before he signed a new deal with Hibs, it would end up with people calling for .net to be closed indefinitely !!!!.
Your friend could probably do with losing his job in fairness. In my line of work I used to deal with quite a lot of high net worth individuals, many of them professional football players, and knew the sort of money they were on at various levels, even seen some very interesting contracts. Wouldn`t dream of divulging that sort of information on a public forum or even share that sort of information in an informal chat. Totally unprofessional.
I agree with this thread, probably this sort of speculation does nothing but harm and would be better off deleted
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 8 May 16:51
Quote:
DRreturns, Fri 8 May 13:51
Closing a thread about discussing our most valuable player and what we should do to keep him??
It’s an open forum exactly for this type of discussion.
In terms of me knowing for a fact come from a friend who works for Livingston and informed me about Robbie Fraser signing for us prior to us announcing it.
It’s nothing to do with someone pretending to know something, it’s someone sharing information they’ve been given by a reliable source.
I better not mention the salary we offered Martin Boyle before he signed a new deal with Hibs, it would end up with people calling for .net to be closed indefinitely !!!!.
Bore off
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Pars11
Date: Fri 8 May 17:46
Pars Daft, Freddie Turley is on loan from Derby County.
Bluebell Polka
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 8 May 18:07
Quote:
DRreturns, Fri 8 May 13:51
Closing a thread about discussing our most valuable player and what we should do to keep him??
It’s an open forum exactly for this type of discussion.
In terms of me knowing for a fact come from a friend who works for Livingston and informed me about Robbie Fraser signing for us prior to us announcing it.
It’s nothing to do with someone pretending to know something, it’s someone sharing information they’ve been given by a reliable source.
I better not mention the salary we offered Martin Boyle before he signed a new deal with Hibs, it would end up with people calling for .net to be closed indefinitely !!!!.
Unfortunately it is too often unsubstantiated crap from unreliable or non existent sources.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Fri 8 May 19:10
Why on earth would someone who works for Livie have the inside track to what Pars are offering players, not like they are going to be in the running considering their position
Post Edited (Fri 08 May 19:26)
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Fri 8 May 20:29
It’s a Forum where we all can talk about the club/plYers.
Why would anything get deleted regarding players wages etc as it happens on every forum?
And just to mix it up how much of a wage do you think Fraser is on as he was 2k plus bonus a week at Rangers? Mehmet has been stealing his 1.7k a week since signing for us..no wonder he’s happy until his contract expires.
Mullen imo is in the 5-7k a week bracket and will be going back down south if we are still in the Championship.
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Fri 8 May 21:26
He was absolute class tonight
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 8 May 21:34
He was excellent tonight.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 8 May 21:42
Well worth the 5k a week......
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 8 May 21:50
Probably £6k after that goal-line clearance!
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Topic Originator: DRreturns
Date: Fri 8 May 23:05
I never said anything about Livingston knowing what we were offering players, I’m only stating that his agent was looking for 4k a week to sign for Livi full time before we signed him….
As for the poster who thinks we’re breaking the law or in a “gray area”, you’re on the wind up, surely 🤣🤣🤣
Discussing football players salaries happens everyday, news papers plaster it on the back pages. We better stop incase football players lawyers are reading .net to look for fans talking about footballers wages, have a word with yourself min.
As for Martin Boyle, Im talking about the deal we offered him in the summer. This is 100% true, not a rumour or a lie, FACT!
As I said, we better not discuss as people will start thinking about jumping in front of a bus or be worried they might be sentenced to life imprisonment.
It’s the same old people who say it’s “rumours” when it’s someone trying to contribute to the conversation. You are either jealous you don’t hold such information or just like argue.
I hope you have a sh1te weekend and wake up due to pis$ing the bed.
I’m here to take over!!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 8 May 23:09
Putting fact in capitals makes you look a bit mad to be honest.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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