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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 23 May 20:03
I thought the tactics and the team selection was not too bad at all. Not that I can see into Neil Lennon`s mind pre- match, but I reckon he thought of using the young fit guys first half and depending on how that turned out, alter it for the second half. Both Kane and Rudden are a bit ring rusty and the way Kane throws himself about, he`s always prone to injury. I never thought we had much of a chance against Celtic at Hampden. It`s like a home game to them. Our team gave their all and the fans gave their all. Our behaviour was impeccable and it was a brilliant day out. Very much looking forward to the new season and happier than ever to get my season ticket.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sat 23 May 20:11
Yes a great day.As said,the management,players and fans all played their part.No trouble,no vile songs,just people supporting their team.So proud today,roll on next season!
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 23 May 20:21
If you have to make 3 changes at half time, you`ve got it wrong. Lennon has done wonders with us, but he got the starting line-up wrong today.
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Sat 23 May 20:31
Totally agree
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 23 May 20:49
The team selection was inches from being brilliant.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 23 May 20:49
Oh I dunno, everyone knows what Tash gives you and quite frankly it’s not a lot so no idea what he had done to start today.
Might aswell have put fyfe on as at least he runs about.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Kintos
Date: Sat 23 May 20:52
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Paralex, Sat 23 May 20:03
I thought the tactics and the team selection was not too bad at all. Not that I can see into Neil Lennon`s mind pre- match, but I reckon he thought of using the young fit guys first half and depending on how that turned out, alter it for the second half. Both Kane and Rudden are a bit ring rusty and the way Kane throws himself about, he`s always prone to injury. I never thought we had much of a chance against Celtic at Hampden. It`s like a home game to them. Our team gave their all and the fans gave their all. Our behaviour was impeccable and it was a brilliant day out. Very much looking forward to the new season and happier than ever to get my season ticket.
Kane is anything but ring rusty. The last 7/8 games are the most game time he’s ever achieved at the Pars, and we’ve bore those fruits as he has been immense. Even if we’re employing the “Kane can’t last 90 mins” argument, it’s the SC Final and he’s our biggest attribute! He’d have also been a shoe in for getting Trusty an earlier booking, and perhaps a sending off.
Lennon undoubtedly got the starting 11 wrong. Not sure why, but it’s undeniable. Still back him to the core. What he’s achieved in the last 12 months with us has been immense!
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 23 May 21:05
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DBA, Sat 23 May 20:21
If you have to make 3 changes at half time, you`ve got it wrong. Lennon has done wonders with us, but he got the starting line-up wrong today.
Or it was tactical and nearly worked.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 23 May 21:25
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PARrot, Sat 23 May 21:05
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DBA, Sat 23 May 20:21
If you have to make 3 changes at half time, you`ve got it wrong. Lennon has done wonders with us, but he got the starting line-up wrong today.
Or it was tactical and nearly worked.
Nope, I think he got it wrong. I’ve elaborated on that on another thread.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 23 May 21:32
Ok, while Kane may not technically have been ring rusty, his appearances have been rather bit-part and he`s known to be less capable of lasting a whole game. Rudden, on the other hand hasn`t kicked a ball for us for ages. Let`s not nit pick, neither of them were going to last the game at the pace set by Celtic and the boss did what he thought best in the circumstances. He could have used the resources available in different combinations but had to work with the players at his disposal. Whether any other combination would have worked better is open to conjecture. We were always going to be up against it today. My pre match thoughts were 0-3 but we got 1-3 and the team gave their all. Let`s stop moaning and give the guys a well earned break. Nobody else has.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 23 May 21:36
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Raymie the Legend, Sat 23 May 21:25
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PARrot, Sat 23 May 21:05
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DBA, Sat 23 May 20:21
If you have to make 3 changes at half time, you`ve got it wrong. Lennon has done wonders with us, but he got the starting line-up wrong today.
Or it was tactical and nearly worked.
Nope, I think he got it wrong. I’ve elaborated on that on another thread.
Agreed Raymie, he 100% got it wrong today, but he also shouldn’t be lambasted for it, as we were up against it as it stands (not saying you were btw!)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 23 May 21:46
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Dave_1885, Sat 23 May 21:36
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Raymie the Legend, Sat 23 May 21:25
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PARrot, Sat 23 May 21:05
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DBA, Sat 23 May 20:21
If you have to make 3 changes at half time, you`ve got it wrong. Lennon has done wonders with us, but he got the starting line-up wrong today.
Or it was tactical and nearly worked.
Nope, I think he got it wrong. I’ve elaborated on that on another thread.
Agreed Raymie, he 100% got it wrong today, but he also shouldn’t be lambasted for it, as we were up against it as it stands (not saying you were btw!)
Agreed. He changed things at half time and we were very competitive.
Managers will always question themselves when it doesn’t work out.
It happens. You have a plan and sometimes it doesn’t work.
I would have made changes earlier rather than waiting until half time, even just positional ones.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Sat 23 May 21:47)
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sat 23 May 21:47
Don`t think it was wrong, he deliberately r lately kept big guns to later.
Remember final is not one horse race the opposition have tactics as well
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sat 23 May 21:49
"I would have made changes earlier rather than waiting until half time, even just positional ones."
he did make positional changes in the first half.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 23 May 21:52
What were they?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 23 May 22:11
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Raymie the Legend, Sat 23 May 21:46
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Dave_1885, Sat 23 May 21:36
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Raymie the Legend, Sat 23 May 21:25
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PARrot, Sat 23 May 21:05
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DBA, Sat 23 May 20:21
If you have to make 3 changes at half time, you`ve got it wrong. Lennon has done wonders with us, but he got the starting line-up wrong today.
Or it was tactical and nearly worked.
Nope, I think he got it wrong. I’ve elaborated on that on another thread.
Agreed Raymie, he 100% got it wrong today, but he also shouldn’t be lambasted for it, as we were up against it as it stands (not saying you were btw!)
Agreed. He changed things at half time and we were very competitive.
Managers will always question themselves when it doesn’t work out.
It happens. You have a plan and sometimes it doesn’t work.
I would have made changes earlier rather than waiting until half time, even just positional ones.
We felt that we should have changed it after about 25 minutes as we were under the cosh a bit and weren`t imposing ourselves enough. The half time substitutions were needed, but we felt A Todd wasnt having alot of success and should have been changed out. No surprise that Cooper got into the position for the goal. We gave them too much respect. We struggled wih Celtics movement and work rate in the final third. Still no doubt NL is looking past this game into next year. Its been an exercise in showing the players what it takes to be successful.and givem them a target to aim for next year amd reflect on what they need to do to get there. Its about how badly you want it.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: NikNakPar
Date: Sat 23 May 22:15
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Raymie the Legend, Sat 23 May 21:52
What were they?
Is also like to see these pointed out. I’ve went about it the wrong way on other threads but it’s true. Needed changing long before it was
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Topic Originator: Stichman
Date: Sat 23 May 22:53
Lennon got it completely wrong with the team selection, there`s surely no doubt about that.
Kane is so important to everything we do going forward... he holds it up, runs the channels, plays wee flicks in for other players... we looked absolutely toothless without him.
Abdulai has played in midfield 2 or 3 times for us, whilst Amade has been consistently class, including a couple of games ago where we absolutely ran the show for us in the first leg against Thistle. It was a huge gamble today to do what he did, and it didn`t pay off at all.
I get trying to keep it tight in the first half, but if we`d just tried to play our game - the same game that saw us beat 3 premier league teams on the way here - we would have been so much better off. Second half we actually carried a threat. Celtic are dreadful but we made them look class in the first half.
I really like Lennon and he`s been great for us, but I don`t think you can argue that he got it completely wrong today, and it would be nice if he fronted up and said that.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 23 May 23:08
I don`t like second-guessing managers, mainly because they are privy to a lot more information about the players than we are and that could influence selection, but I`m surprised our game plan didn`t include having our most experienced and influential player on the field from the start. I think it`s difficult though when you`re up against a team which had superior players to ours all over the pitch. That`s always the problem playing Celtic. If you look at the overall stats we actually matched them pretty well over 90 minutes but they were much more clinical at decisive moments.
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