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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 21 Mar 21:10
Over a million signatures? Does that mean the forty-odd million voters who haven't signed it are quite happy with Brexit going ahead, GGR?
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Topic Originator: parbucks
Date: Thu 21 Mar 22:51
Nice one eck😏
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Fri 22 Mar 06:10
Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 21 Mar 21:10
Over a million signatures? Does that mean the forty-odd million voters who haven't signed it are quite happy with Brexit going ahead, GGR?
Aye, guid wan, eck. :-)
I don't know how long the petition's been up and running, but a million signatures is quite impressive all the same and I daresay this total will swell considerably as the petition is circulated.
None of us know how life after Brexit will turn out, anymore than how an independent Scotland would fare. I think it's probably fair to say that there will be quite a bit of transitional pain before things settle down.
As a European, I would have preferred us to stay in the EU, although I readily concede that this organisation has become far too large and bureaucratic and is riddled with corruption. I think it would have been better for us to have stayed and fought to fix these problems from inside the EU, but we are where we are.
Personally, I don't think anything will come of the petition. More than likely, we'll discover that some of the signatures are bogus or have come from people who are ineligible to vote. My main beef with Brexit is that David Cameron should never have promised or called a referendum. Our MPs are elected to serve their citizen's best interests and let's face it, the average voter doesn't have enough knowledge about the EU to make an informed choice as to whether we would be better off in or out. Voters were then duped by a few politicians with their own agenda and the 500+ Remain MPs failed to convince enough voters with their Project Fear argument.
No matter which side of the coin you voted for, you'd have to agree that our MPs are currently presiding over an utter shambles and voters on both sides are completely disillusioned and hacked off at their inability to reach an agreement among themselves. This petition is probably the fruit of the frustration many of us feel at this moment.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Fri 22 Mar 07:15
Over two million now....
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 22 Mar 08:33
It's meaningless. If there was a petition saying that we should leave the EU as per the referendum result then it would also quickly rack up a high number of signatures.
I voted to remain and I worry about the immediate future if we leave, especially without a deal, however we had a vote and the majority voted to leave. If democracy means anything to us we have to respect that and one way or another we now need to leave the EU.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Captain Desmond Fancey
Date: Fri 22 Mar 08:59
A laughable and meaningless exercise.
Still 15 million short of the number of individuals (we all know how easy it is to sign a petition more than once) who voted to leave the EU.
What does it actually tell us anyway, other than 2.3 million people feel the very same as they did 3 years ago. By my maths too there are still at least 14 million remainers who haven't even bothered to sign.
Regardless, we all know Brexit isn't really going to happen. May has turned us into an International laughing stock and she must go immediately.
The good old days
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 22 Mar 09:11
The whole exercise was just the Tory party indulging itself at the expense of the UK.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 22 Mar 09:43
The Conservative Party is finished. Jeremy Corbyn can't believe his luck.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Captain Desmond Fancey
Date: Fri 22 Mar 10:02
"The Conservative Party is finished. Jeremy Corbyn can't believe his luck."
He's finished too. Despite all their internal troubles there is still isn't a snowballs chance in hell Labour will be elected with him as leader.
They're about to alienate the bulk of their core vote in the North of England if, as I suspect, Brexit doesn't go ahead.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 22 Mar 10:38
The Tories are the party of brexit. It's ultimately all going to be on them.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Fri 22 Mar 13:46
Petition is over 3 million now - I know that's still dwarfed by the 17 million who voted Leave, but at what point does it become significant?
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Fri 22 Mar 14:19
I said right at the start we wouldn't leave and was laughed at...it could still happen.
Either way our parasitic politicians will make a fortune.
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Topic Originator: Captain Desmond Fancey
Date: Fri 22 Mar 16:01
It doesn't become significant at all.
It's still 13 million people who voted remain and not signed it. Plus already there are leavers on the wind up signing it ten at a time because it's that easy to do.
The good old days
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Fri 22 Mar 16:36
Quote:
Captain Desmond Fancey, Fri 22 Mar 16:01
It doesn't become significant at all.
It's still 13 million people who voted remain and not signed it. Plus already there are leavers on the wind up signing it ten at a time because it's that easy to do.
Leavers like Julia Hartley-Brewer who says it's easy because you can use the same email address multiple times. She's spent a while registering votes this afternoon unaware that only one vote counts per email address. Her stupidity knows no bounds.
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Fri 22 Mar 16:48
Quote:
Captain Desmond Fancey, Fri 22 Mar 16:01
It doesn't become significant at all.
It's still 13 million people who voted remain and not signed it. Plus already there are leavers on the wind up signing it ten at a time because it's that easy to do.
Only if you happen to have 10 email addresses.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Fri 22 Mar 17:00
You could buy a domain name for a couple of dollars and you then have unlimited email addresses
Post Edited (Fri 22 Mar 17:00)
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Fri 22 Mar 17:00
It also weeds out dodgy signatures and multiple registrations from the same ip address. A lot of time wasted this afternoon for some folks me thinks 😂
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Topic Originator: Captain Desmond Fancey
Date: Fri 22 Mar 17:02
"Only if you happen to have 10 email addresses."
Not exactly difficult to set up. Anyway, doesn't have to be ten. Can be any number. The point still stands that the petition is utterly irrelevant.
As for Julia, have a listen to her show in the morning. She's more often bang on the money than not. And she's certainly right about Brexit.
The good old days
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Fri 22 Mar 17:03
So if two students try to vote from uni then they can't as they'll be using the same external IP?
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Fri 22 Mar 17:10
Not necessarily. From what I've read this afternoon it's not as simple as one vote per ip address. It's designed to recognise ip addresses that normally have heavy traffic and ones that don't. If your sending multiples from your phone or home then it'll likely recognise it's dodgy.
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Fri 22 Mar 18:19
Quote:
Captain Desmond Fancey, Fri 22 Mar 17:02
"Only if you happen to have 10 email addresses."
Not exactly difficult to set up. Anyway, doesn't have to be ten. Can be any number. The point still stands that the petition is utterly irrelevant.
As for Julia, have a listen to her show in the morning. She's more often bang on the money than not. And she's certainly right about Brexit.
What sort of sad git would set up 10 email addresses just to vote?
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Topic Originator: parbucks
Date: Fri 22 Mar 19:55
“What sort of sad git would set up 10 email addresses just to vote?”
Anyone who was deluded enough to think that such a poll meant anything.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 22 Mar 19:58
The petition means nothing. What does mean something is the sovereign power of the UK parliament and the parliament is giving a resounding no to a no deal brexit.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: parbucks
Date: Fri 22 Mar 21:19
“What does mean something is the sovereign power of the UK parliament and the parliament is giving a resounding no to a no deal brexit.”
Don’t believe that is true. May’s problem is that the bad deal she is pushing is uniting both sides of the debate and she can’t see it.
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Sat 23 Mar 18:38
If Parliament gives in to the remain side . I reckon the 18 million folk who voted leave will find a home in Nigel Farage's party .
I for one could never vote for either of those 2 "main" parties .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 23 Mar 18:48
Interesting Parsweep. If others feel the same way then it's advantage snp in Scotland.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Sat 23 Mar 19:05
TOWK , I think independence is nailed on after this Westminster performance .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sat 23 Mar 21:04
If Parliament did bottle it and just revoke A50, cancel brexit then I'd be delighted but a lot of folk wouldn't be. 2nd referendum this nonsense or there will be utter anarchy (Got my popcorn at the ready either way)
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