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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 10:17

At it again, bombing sovereign nations and killing multiple people, except their targets. This time Qatar, and this one may have been one too many.

Netanyahu due to be in Downing Street today…..should be arrested the minute he steps off the plane…..but he wont be as we don’t have the balls.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 10:22

RAF refuelling the Israeli bombers?🤔
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Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 10:31

Quote:

Dave_1885, Wed 10 Sept 10:17

At it again, bombing sovereign nations and killing multiple people, except their targets. This time Qatar, and this one may have been one too many.

Netanyahu due to be in Downing Street today…..should be arrested the minute he steps off the plane…..but he wont be as we don’t have the balls.


It`s the president isn`t it? No arrest warrants out for him.

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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 13:15

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LochgellyAlbert, Wed 10 Sept 10:22

RAF refuelling the Israeli bombers?🤔


Apparently so.

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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 14:28

Should be arrested and papped over to Den Haag for war crimes. Will the Brits do that? Absolutely not... cowardice of the highest order.

Likud are Zionazls, who persecute Christian, Muslim and Atheist alike.

Likewise, Hamas are Islamist terrorists. And political Islam/Abrahamic religion does not belong in a civilised world.

This is why the Abrahamic religions are the scurge of our society and why I am wo proud as a Scot and a Swede that we have largely removed their I influence from our judiciary.
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 15:48

RAF Tankers are not capable of refuelling Israeli jets.

The two different systems are incompatible with each other.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/despite-claims-british-tankers-cannot-refuel-israeli-jets/

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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 20:23

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parsfan, Wed 10 Sep 10:31

Quote:

Dave_1885, Wed 10 Sept 10:17

At it again, bombing sovereign nations and killing multiple people, except their targets. This time Qatar, and this one may have been one too many.

Netanyahu due to be in Downing Street today…..should be arrested the minute he steps off the plane…..but he wont be as we don’t have the balls.


It`s the president isn`t it? No arrest warrants out for him.


Correct, but there should be. Co-conspirator in this.
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Tue 16 Sep 15:59

The UN have found Israel guilty of Genocide…..just in case anyone on here still has their doubts.

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Tue 16 Sep 16:49

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desparado, Tue 16 Sept 15:59

The UN have found Israel guilty of Genocide…..just in case anyone on here still has their doubts.


About time.

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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Tue 16 Sep 17:04

Everybody in the world that`s got even the slightest bit of interest could have told you that it`s was a genocide, they are not trying to hide it.
BBC still trying to say 64,964 people have died which has got to be a massive understatement, when over 90% of homes have been destroyed or damaged. These figures supposedly come from Hamas themselves, there is a lot of what they do, that makes me think they are actually agents of the Israeli Government
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 16 Sep 17:12

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desparado, Tue 16 Sept 15:59

The UN have found Israel guilty of Genocide…..just in case anyone on here still has their doubts.


But what does that mean in reality? The Israeli government will just shrug its shoulders and say "so what are you gonna do about it?".
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Tue 16 Sep 17:32

Israel have some very powerful allies. History will shame them.

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Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Wed 17 Sep 07:20

Indeed they do
https://open.substack.com/pub/dearscotland/p/tony-blair-and-the-great-zionist?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Fri 26 Sep 08:59

I personally believe that the Israelis knew about Oct 7th and allowed it to happen. There is plenty info out there that supports this.

Microsoft has just ended it’s AI data services with the Israeli military which was used for mass surveillance of the Palestinians. All mobile phone calls could be stored and listened too.

There is no way that Israel did not know about the attack on Oct 7th.

The fact that it apparently took them 6 hours to respond tells a story…

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Fri 26 Sep 10:19

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desparado, Fri 26 Sept 08:59

I personally believe that the Israelis knew about Oct 7th and allowed it to happen. There is plenty info out there that supports this.

Microsoft has just ended it’s AI data services with the Israeli military which was used for mass surveillance of the Palestinians. All mobile phone calls could be stored and listened too.

There is no way that Israel did not know about the attack on Oct 7th.

The fact that it apparently took them 6 hours to respond tells a story…


They did know, Egyptian security services told them a few days before.
The trouble is they didn`t believe it was going to happen and at what scale.

In 1982 six weeks before the Falklands War Thatcher was told that Argentina were planning to attack. It even appeared in an article in The Guardian.
She also didn`t believe it.
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net  
Date:   Mon 29 Sep 06:35

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desparado, Fri 26 Sep 08:59

I personally believe that the Israelis knew about Oct 7th and allowed it to happen. There is plenty info out there that supports this.

Microsoft has just ended it’s AI data services with the Israeli military which was used for mass surveillance of the Palestinians. All mobile phone calls could be stored and listened too.

There is no way that Israel did not know about the attack on Oct 7th.

The fact that it apparently took them 6 hours to respond tells a story…


Yeh that would actually involve the idf engaging with the attackers face to face much easier for them to let people die and be taken hostage first then bomb the **** out of Gaza afterwards
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net  
Date:   Sat 4 Oct 20:42

And there we have it not even a day after Hamas agreed to release the remaining hostages and the remains of the dead ones good old benji is still itching to wipe them out by any means necessary I’d be willing to bet that as soon as the last hostage crosses back into Israel the bombs will start falling again and as for tango man in Washington you will hear not one cheep out of him once they do
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Sun 5 Oct 09:57

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Back_oh_the_net, Sat 4 Oct 20:42

And there we have it not even a day after Hamas agreed to release the remaining hostages and the remains of the dead ones good old benji is still itching to wipe them out by any means necessary I’d be willing to bet that as soon as the last hostage crosses back into Israel the bombs will start falling again and as for tango man in Washington you will hear not one cheep out of him once they do


100% this, it was never about hostages.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sun 5 Oct 19:40

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Back_oh_the_net, Sat 4 Oct 20:42

And there we have it not even a day after Hamas agreed to release the remaining hostages and the remains of the dead ones good old benji is still itching to wipe them out by any means necessary I’d be willing to bet that as soon as the last hostage crosses back into Israel the bombs will start falling again and as for tango man in Washington you will hear not one cheep out of him once they do


Well they have no more excuses if they do that.
The world is already turning against the Israeli machine but they always had the hostages as their poor excuse as leverage for killing over 60000 people in Gaza.

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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net  
Date:   Sun 5 Oct 20:08

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AdamAntsParsStripe, Sun 5 Oct 19:40

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Back_oh_the_net, Sat 4 Oct 20:42

And there we have it not even a day after Hamas agreed to release the remaining hostages and the remains of the dead ones good old benji is still itching to wipe them out by any means necessary I’d be willing to bet that as soon as the last hostage crosses back into Israel the bombs will start falling again and as for tango man in Washington you will hear not one cheep out of him once they do


Well they have no more excuses if they do that.
The world is already turning against the Israeli machine but they always had the hostages as their poor excuse as leverage for killing over 60000 people in Gaza.


Aye but when have you ever known wee benji to care what the rest of the world thinks?
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Fri 10 Oct 11:57

Ceasefire now in effect, IDF troops withdrawn to back positions, hostages and prisoners due to be released in the next 72 hours and 600 trucks of aid a day expected to flow into the country.

Hopefully this is the start of every lasting peace within Palestine.

Big question is though will the IDF allow international journalists into the region to allow proper reporting now?
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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Fri 10 Oct 14:12

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Dave_1885, Fri 10 Oct 11:57

Ceasefire now in effect, IDF troops withdrawn to back positions, hostages and prisoners due to be released in the next 72 hours and 600 trucks of aid a day expected to flow into the country.

Hopefully this is the start of every lasting peace within Palestine.

Big question is though will the IDF allow international journalists into the region to allow proper reporting now?


Doubt it Dave. That would show the full horror of the genocide to the world. I`d imagine what will happen, is once the Israeli hostages have been released, Israel will find a way to go back on the deal, and won`t realise their Palestinian hostages, then will resume destroying the final 10% of the country.

I hope not, but they`ve been the party that have broke every deal they`ve had with Hamas, they are not to be trusted
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 11 Oct 06:03

Palestinians are returning to the north and beginning to recover bodies from under the rubble across the ruins of Gaza. This may take years. UN agencies and relief organisations estimate the real number of casualties in Gaza is not 68,000, but in the hundreds of thousands, indeed possibly as high as a million.

If true, it is right to call it genocide, but given its scale and intensity, and who are the perpetrators, then holocaust is a more appropriate term. For they have utterly defaced their own history.

Israel`s actions these past two years are almost beyond comprehension. Its defenders will point to October 7th, 2023, but, in context, that was simply a catalyst to accelerate a murderous process that has been carried out by Israel for 80 years.

International pressure will surely see UN forces, international journalists, and relief agencies move into Gaza long before the likes of Trump and Kushner, and other real estate developers get their hands on the place.

The truth must come out, and those responsible for the evil acts on both sides must face the judges in The Hague.

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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Sat 11 Oct 11:28

That`s what should happen OzPar, but I`ve got a funny feeling that it won`t. Israel have got friends in all the right places, they will just resume the genocide soon enough I fear
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Sat 11 Oct 14:18

As soon as the hostages are handed over, the rat Israel will resume the genocide and the wealthy rats will buy up the land.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net  
Date:   Sat 11 Oct 22:12

And the silence from western leaders will be deafening
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sun 12 Oct 00:35

But the sound of wave after wave of Iranian hypersonic rockets landing precisely on their targets in Tel Aviv might wake them up.

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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 12 Oct 09:00

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Dandy Warhol, Sat 11 Oct 14:18

As soon as the hostages are handed over, the rat Israel will resume the genocide and the wealthy rats will buy up the land.


It sounds like something worse going on right now - Palestinians fighting with Hamas who have declared ownership of regions of Gaza.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 12 Oct 09:38

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jake89, Sun 12 Oct 09:00

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Dandy Warhol, Sat 11 Oct 14:18

As soon as the hostages are handed over, the rat Israel will resume the genocide and the wealthy rats will buy up the land.


It sounds like something worse going on right now - Palestinians fighting with Hamas who have declared ownership of regions of Gaza.


Civil war will most likely break out once aid starts flowing in and the Israelis back out. It doesn’t help that the Israelis have also helped to arm local clans, along with them raiding Hamas stores after the occupation.

What really should happen is that a UN peace keeping force should enter the territory to allow for aid to go out and proper reporting to be done, but it wont happen. Cases like Somalia in the 90s will deter them from going in I think.
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sun 12 Oct 12:08

I am extremely cautious of BBC spin these days. Their Hamas story is sourced in Jerusalem. Jeremy Bowen comes across as an Israeli patsy. A poor replacement for journalistic giants like Robert Fisk, John Pilger, and Christopher Hitchens, who in the past covered the Middle East with independence and integrity.

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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net  
Date:   Mon 13 Oct 02:05

Get John simpson on the case
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Mon 13 Oct 14:55

Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Fri 26 Sep 10:19

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desparado, Fri 26 Sept 08:59

I personally believe that the Israelis knew about Oct 7th and allowed it to happen. There is plenty info out there that supports this.

Microsoft has just ended it’s AI data services with the Israeli military which was used for mass surveillance of the Palestinians. All mobile phone calls could be stored and listened too.

There is no way that Israel did not know about the attack on Oct 7th.

The fact that it apparently took them 6 hours to respond tells a story…


They did know, Egyptian security services told them a few days before.
The trouble is they didn`t believe it was going to happen and at what scale.

In 1982 six weeks before the Falklands War Thatcher was told that Argentina were planning to attack. It even appeared in an article in The Guardian.
She also didn`t believe it.



It’s not a question….in my mind….that Israel did not believe the attack would happen…..more so that the KNEW the attack would happen and let it happen…

I wonder how long it will be before they either break the cease fire or move their attention elsewhere…..Iran ?

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Mon 13 Oct 19:19

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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Fri 26 Sep 10:19

Quote:

desparado, Fri 26 Sept 08:59

I personally believe that the Israelis knew about Oct 7th and allowed it to happen. There is plenty info out there that supports this.

Microsoft has just ended it’s AI data services with the Israeli military which was used for mass surveillance of the Palestinians. All mobile phone calls could be stored and listened too.

There is no way that Israel did not know about the attack on Oct 7th.

The fact that it apparently took them 6 hours to respond tells a story…


They did know, Egyptian security services told them a few days before.
The trouble is they didn`t believe it was going to happen and at what scale.

In 1982 six weeks before the Falklands War Thatcher was told that Argentina were planning to attack. It even appeared in an article in The Guardian.
She also didn`t believe it.



It’s not a question….in my mind….that Israel did not believe the attack would happen…..more so that the KNEW the attack would happen and let it happen…

I wonder how long it will be before they either break the cease fire or move their attention elsewhere…..Iran ?


If they`re going after Iran 🇮🇷 they`ll regret it big time.
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Tue 14 Oct 11:29

And Israel already at it, who`d have thought.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Tue 14 Oct 22:52

IDF have stated that the Rafah crossing will not be opened on Wednesday to allow aid in to Gaza because Hamas have not returned all of the deceased hostage bodies, despite Hamas saying they need to dig through the rubble to find them.

Certainly sounds like they are itching to keep it going……

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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net  
Date:   Wed 15 Oct 01:32

So there’s a fair chance that idf have killed those hostages with their own bombs then you have to ask why they would risk bombing potential hamas buildings if there was a risk of hostages being inside those buildings but as dandy pointed out it was never really about hostages was it in wee benji’s eyes 40 odd hostages being killed is a small price to pay if it means destroying hamas I’ll give it until the point where this Gaza city clan that engaged with hamas just now are defeated and they will open up on Gaza once more lure them back into what’s left of the city’s under a false banner of peace then start bombing them again is how this will turn out
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par  
Date:   Wed 15 Oct 03:30

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There is no way that Israel did not know about the attack on Oct 7th.

The fact that it apparently took them 6 hours to respond tells a story…



"fact" and "apparently" do not good bedfellows make.

The IDF responded almost immediately after it started at 6.30am.

And the story is that Hamas launched their attack on Simchat Torah, when they knew security would be at minimum levels and Jewish people would be avoiding using electronic equipment.

Hamas knew they could slaughter 1,195 young festival goers and security guards and that the majority of Jewish people would be off-grid at this time and would only switch on electronic devices at sunset.

Hamas also launched 4,300 missiles into Israel at the same time as the murder of the festival goers.




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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net  
Date:   Sun 19 Oct 16:37

And that’s it started again
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 19 Oct 17:39

It was never going to last. Israel don’t want it to last.

International journalists need sent in to verify all accounts but one side wont allow that…guess who?

Yet again they have suspended aid into the region, 4 days after they stopped it because they blew up a bus with 11 civilians in it…..
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 19 Oct 19:20

They will not stop until they have razed Gazza and its people .. they are 75% or there about in their agenda .. It won`t be too long before they achieve their ultimate goal .. Wipe out the Palestinians .. build their new homes by the sea and have complete control under the evangelical Zionists ..

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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Mon 20 Oct 01:16

No surprise. They would find any excuse to break the ceasefire and if they could not find one they would just lie and make one up. They are also arming militias and creating a civil war to increase the killing. A despicable nation.

But hey let’s complain about a few football fans getting banned. That gets more news coverage from the BBC and others than a Genocide…

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Mon 20 Oct 11:23

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desparado, Mon 20 Oct 01:16

But hey let’s complain about a few football fans getting banned. That gets more news coverage from the BBC and others than a Genocide…


Israeli police joining the anti-Semites now, it seems: Tel Aviv football derby between Hapoel and Maccabi called off after rioting.

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 Re: Israel
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Mon 20 Oct 12:01

Theres a reason that the council told them to ban Tel Aviv fans - and its not cause they are Jewish 🤷🏻‍♂️

The fact the derby got cancelled yesterday just doubles down on their decision.

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