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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 30 Jan 19:49
Well, having looked at one (randomly picked by hand) I suspect that the journalists are going to be ridiculously busy working through them.
They dataset doesn`t look particularly easy to access as scale.....
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Sat 31 Jan 00:39
There’s this thing called AI
Can rattle through large unstructured data sets like nobody’s business
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 31 Jan 07:25
Just saying "AI" doesn`t make it easier to process...... the files aren`t to download.
And there`s a small issue of 3 million missing records........
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Sat 31 Jan 13:15
People are working on it, lots of them.
They have already discovered some nuggets that slipped through the redaction net (some of which were removed from the released files, but not quickly enough.)
A lot of extremely sick behaviour has been documented in what has already been highlighted. Some people should be ashamed of themselves for supporting the evil people who did these things. They won`t, but they should.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
Post Edited (Sat 31 Jan 13:16)
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 31 Jan 13:48
Agreed.
This is the link I randomly picked last night
https://media-front.elmostrador.cl/2026/01/Lee-el-documento-del-FBI-con-las-denuncias-sobre-Trump.pdf
(Well, it was the one on the DOJ link but this will do).
I would expect that out of the 3.5 million files then some of them will have similar details.
And then there are millions missing.
I note that they couldn`t talk to some of those that have reported issues, and some are reported second hand. But clearly some have been reported by some people allegedly directly impacted.
And I appreciate that proving a negative is somewhat challenging.
But it certainly doesn`t sit right.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 1 Feb 08:14
Apparently DoJ has admitted images showing death, abuse and physical harm were removed from the release, let that sink in.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Sun 1 Feb 09:13
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Sun 1 Feb 08:14
Apparently DoJ has admitted images showing death, abuse and physical harm were removed from the release, let that sink in.
Tbf I would hope they would be redacted. Can you imagine if the DoJ released uncensored images of abuse, murder and physical harm into the public domain? We don`t need to see that ****, and it doesn`t need to be openly published by the government.
The fact that it`s there is so horrifying though 🤢
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Sun 1 Feb 09:29
Quote:
ipswichpar, Sat 31 Jan 07:25
Just saying "AI" doesn`t make it easier to process...... the files aren`t to download.
And there`s a small issue of 3 million missing records........
c.25 years ago I developed an ocr system that would read hand written finance applications and extract the values for processing. The point is that to test it, I organised our operations floor c.300 folk manually fill in about 30 applications with dummy data. I ended up with over 6 1/2 k docs (each had two out three pages) and i got those documents scanned into images from a company that took about two hours.
I’m sure the technology has advanced since then for that purpose.
For the last 5 or 6 years I’ve worked as a digital automation and AI consultant, and I’ve done many projects where we rattle through hundreds and hundreds of document images looking for certain things (in my cases it’s usually text based key value pairs like names, amounts, impacting legal clauses, interpreting and matching meaning etc… and action/flag certain combinations. It cuts through all the unnecessary stuff and shoes the user things of interest). The continual improvements in computing, AI and the way we can manage and process big unstructured data (primarily thanks to social media) means systems already exist to trawl through documents and photos and highlight what we want).
So I get translating physical media to digital is a hurdle (but doable) and as soon as it’s digital, the next bit is easy.
As a side note, that’s why I’m so concerned about digital id, facial recognition, and access to social media, cloud data, health data, banking data because as soon as all of that can be collated - that becomes very dangerous for us all
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 1 Feb 10:19
An impressive CV!
I missed out a key word in my last point.
I believe that they have made it intentionally difficult to access this data.
Data set 12 is available as a Zip, the others recently released are not. This might be due to size but why not split into more data sets?
Completely agree that it is all doable, just that they could have made it way easier..... and then I get into wondering why that`s the case.
The good thing is that those with the technical skills generally hate this sort of behaviour so I`m sure it will motivate too many people to control.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Sun 1 Feb 17:24
I still remember those finance applications well!
They were scanned in by a company in Reading and I’d went there from central London with the documents and had agreed I would just wait.
Wasn’t expecting to be put up in their board room with coffee, biscuits and a huge plateful of bacon butties - which was very nice, but had to listen to a big sales pitch while waiting…
Anyway about an hour and a half later, the call came that it has been digitised and he said he would show some files scanned on their massive monitor.
What I hadn’t done was be overly particular about what dummy data I wanted, and that the ops folk filling it in were all young kids doing a pretty crappy job (transposing faxed data into a system)
So the first doc had for employment, “Doctor of man love” displayed on a massive screen, and then it got worse!
Thankfully everyone in the room just had a good laugh going through i that form, but I was mortified!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 1 Feb 18:40
The most horrifying bit as the man at the centre of a lot of the scandal is in a position of power. Imagine your country being led by a rapist paedophile! It`s bad enough our tax money going towards a royal one.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Mon 2 Feb 06:50
So where are we?
3 million documents and what have you TDS types found?
A call on an annonymous tipline, shortly before the 2020 election from a woman who said she had taken magic mushrooms and could not confirm what was a halucination and what is real.
The only way Trump is at the centre of anything is that if he is the FBI informant that grassed in Epstein.
There are interviews with Epstein with Steve Bannon that have been released they give quite the incite into this Svengali type creature.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 2 Feb 07:09
Well, we have learned.....
1. Trump gobbed off about releasing them.
2. That loads of stuff has been redacted that shouldn`t have been
3. More than 3 million files that should have been released haven`t been, and millions that were legally order to be released were ordered late.
4. That they haven`t released the material in an easy to access format.
5. That a bunch of stuff that was released is being removed.
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Mon 2 Feb 07:24
Ipswich Par, is there a reliable single site for people to gather and discuss the documents? Best I can find so far is the r/epstein subreddit which isn`t particularly well organised
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 2 Feb 07:54
I havent Bouncy. I did think about building some code to download the lot but given the victim`s concerns about their data being shared and the platform checks regarding large scale download I`ve decided against it.
I am sure that the reddit folk will be working through it, the journalists will be keeping an eye on that, and they will be publishing anything they or they themselves find.
Given so much stuff hasn`t been published I suspect it is a dataset that isn`t going to confirm things one way or the other.
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Mon 2 Feb 08:10
I can`t help but feel the way it`s been presented, in a very disorganised dump of over 3 million documents, has been designed to slow the research by flooding the investigation. It`s almost impossible to sift through everything, let along catalog it, classify it, and create any semblance of a case with it.
From what has now been made public, it`s clear that many people have questions to answer, and there`s enough witness statements to at least begin prosecutions, but.... Nothing?! Just drop these documents into public domain, and then leave them there in silence.
These documents don`t automatically prove guilt, thats the job of a judge and jury to decide. But there`s clearly enough evidence to bring about the biggest court case of all time, involving the biggest names of our era either as witnesses or accused, and yet theres just radio silence. It`s crazy.
It`s almost as if it`s too big to deal with, so it`s just getting ignored.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Mon 2 Feb 09:29
Trump Recognition Syndrome.
Imagine the Cultists` response if the hundreds of instances of the word Trump were replaced with the word Obama in these documents.
Remember their reaction when he wore a light brown suit that time? Hundreds of documents linking him to paedophila and infanticide would send them into a frenzy.
There would definitely be a lot less redaction I would imagine and we`d currently be in the middle of the trial of the century.
But it`s Trump`s name which is all over this, like Pedro Don`s hands on his teenage daughter`s backside.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Mon 2 Feb 10:58
People who come out badly in these alleged emails.
Bill Gates - Filthy allegedly, no surprise at his divorce now.
Sarah Ferguson - Seems to be engaged in the oldest occupation of all.
Mandelson - Who the hell knows at this stage, has resigned from the Labour Party.
Andrew MB - Just more confirmation.
Elon - Seems to contradict who canceled his visit to Eppy Island.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 2 Feb 12:35
Could Trump have Mountbatten murdered? He seems like the potential loose canon. Reputation in tatters, nothing to lose.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Mon 2 Feb 13:14
Yes BP, Trump isn`t the only person implicated in this. Don`t forget Slick Bill Clinton too.
But others being as bad, or worse, doesn`t absolve Don Paedo of any guilt. He`s up to his mushroom in this, there`s plenty evidence of that already, despite the redaction frenzy his loyal appointees have been engaged in since he took office.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 2 Feb 14:38
Trump threatening to sue Trevor Noah for insinuating he has been to Epstein Island…..go on then, sue him and let the lawyers open up discovery…..that will be interesting!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 2 Feb 14:42
Statement in the HoC this afternoon by the Chief Secretary to the PM, Darren Jones, re the recently released files. It sounds like Epstein, via Mandelson, was trying to influence the then Chancellor, Alistair Darling.
Post Edited (Mon 02 Feb 14:59)
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 2 Feb 15:03
If the grounds are there, he should be classed as an enemy of the state, all stuff like pensions removed and he should be charged with being a grubby little bassa.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 2 Feb 16:00
All these vile paedos in positions of power have been compromised. There`s no way other countries don`t have the real details from those files.
Get the whole lot published unredacted so we can see who`s going to jail.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Mon 2 Feb 16:31
One thing is very clear from the emails is how deferential these highly powerful people were to Epstein while he would fire back short, indifferent replies.
Money, sex, power. From European royalty (not just AMW) to MPs and celebrities, the last time we were saying "who is this guy" and why was he so connected was Jimmy Savile.
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Mon 2 Feb 16:41
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Mon 2 Feb 16:31
One thing is very clear from the emails is how deferential these highly powerful people were to Epstein while he would fire back short, indifferent replies.
Money, sex, power. From European royalty (not just AMW) to MPs and celebrities, the last time we were saying "who is this guy" and why was he so connected was Jimmy Savile.
Very true.
Whilst not overlooking everything he has done criminally, and facilitated to be done, underneath there lies a fascinating story of someone who is ultimately a nobody rising single-handedly to not only rub shoulders with the absolute elite, but to have them at his beck and call.
He went from being the son of a school assistant and gardener, to become the absolute top dog in a yard full of the worlds top dogs.
It`s almost Shakespearean.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 3 Feb 09:24
I remember posters being hounded for saying the elite were trafficking kids and were wrong uns.
Tin foil hat brigade right again.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
Post Edited (Tue 03 Feb 09:24)
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Tue 3 Feb 14:57
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 3 Feb 09:24
I remember posters being hounded for saying the elite were trafficking kids and were wrong uns.
Tin foil hat brigade right again.
Eh no you are reinventing things to retrofit to your narrative. Pizzagate was what you’re referring to and that was a specific accusation which was thoroughly debunked. Not least since the pizza shop in question did not even have a basement where the allegations were to have taken place.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Tue 3 Feb 15:33
Aye, conspiracy theorists love to chuck in a wee "I told you so" when one of their fantasies touches the edge of something that turns out to be true.
MAGA is always making a confession with each accusation too, so obviously they were going to be accusing others of paedophila a lot, given how much of it they do.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 3 Feb 15:40
Quote:
P, Tue 3 Feb 14:57
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 3 Feb 09:24
I remember posters being hounded for saying the elite were trafficking kids and were wrong uns.
Tin foil hat brigade right again.
Eh no you are reinventing things to retrofit to your narrative. Pizzagate was what you’re referring to and that was a specific accusation which was thoroughly debunked. Not least since the pizza shop in question did not even have a basement where the allegations were to have taken place.
I took absolutely no interest in pizzagate thanks.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 3 Feb 15:41
Quote:
P, Tue 3 Feb 14:57
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 3 Feb 09:24
I remember posters being hounded for saying the elite were trafficking kids and were wrong uns.
Tin foil hat brigade right again.
Eh no you are reinventing things to retrofit to your narrative. Pizzagate was what you’re referring to and that was a specific accusation which was thoroughly debunked. Not least since the pizza shop in question did not even have a basement where the allegations were to have taken place.
Eh, no, it wasn`t pizzagate and no i`m not, thanks.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 3 Feb 20:30
What did seem like outlandish speculation about elite paedophiles running the world is being shown to be pretty much true. Unbelievable that there is this amount of information out there and we haven`t had much by way of prosecution. I`d wager that we won`t see much other than a few sacrificial lambs to the slaughter while the majority get off Scot free. I bet a few more victims will be "suicided" too.
Interesting that not too much is being said in the papers about Mossad. It looks like it`s has been all about them and Epstein entrapping the rich and powerful. We see the word "Goyim" used often in the files. They see us as being subhuman, especially the children they raped.
It becomes so clear how many governments and media groups are under the control of outside forces, when they will allow and back Israel to commit genocide on such an outrageous scale.
Some of the financial information is interesting too, Epstein advising companies like JP Morgan in how to make money out of Vaccines and charities and get that money hidden off shore and getting inside information from his government sources.
The information out there is the tip of the iceberg, but I doubt we will ever get to see the real juicy stuff
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Tue 3 Feb 20:50
Interesting that the case of someone driving while drunk to a shop in Dunfermline with her cat in her car has made it into the Epstein files.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 3 Feb 22:17
Quote:
ipswichpar, Tue 3 Feb 20:50
Interesting that the case of someone driving while drunk to a shop in Dunfermline with her cat in her car has made it into the Epstein files.
Eh? How?
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 4 Feb 11:44
Is this genuine? ⬆️⬆️⬆️
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Wed 4 Feb 15:51
Suggestions being made that the FBI passed a file to the Met about Andrew`s activities in 2022, but nothing was done.
Nothing except for the palace putting pressure on media outlets not to report on alrteady known aspects of the story, for example by threatening to withdraw access to other family members.
Bear in mind that William named his son after Louis Mountbatten, one of the other royal paedos.
Or that Charles was close friends with Jimmy Savile.
Two corrupt institutions in cahoots to protect paedophiles, as always.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Wed 4 Feb 20:01
Publishing victims names.
Nude photos of victims.
Publishing bank details of alleged victims.
And that`s the redacted stuff.
The idea that these files could be published in full is ludicrous.
Post Edited (Wed 04 Feb 20:02)
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 4 Feb 20:13
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Wed 4 Feb 20:01
Publishing victims names.
Nude photos of victims.
Publishing bank details of alleged victims.
And that`s the redacted stuff.
The idea that these files could be published in full is ludicrous.
Yep, and that`s before all the Trump stuff needs hidden
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Wed 4 Feb 20:17
Quote:
Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 4 Feb 20:13
Yep, and that`s before all the Trump stuff needs hidden
I once got a bag of Salt `n Shake without the wee blue bag, so through lived experience I feel your pain.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 4 Feb 21:23
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Wed 4 Feb 20:01
Publishing victims names.
Nude photos of victims.
Publishing bank details of alleged victims.
And that`s the redacted stuff.
The idea that these files could be published in full is ludicrous.
Of course, however.....ach, just go back to being an obedient Goy.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Wed 4 Feb 22:35
This particular packet of salt and shake has 38,000 wee blue bags, all of them embossed in tacky gold leaf with the initials "DJT."
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Wed 4 Feb 23:12
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 4 Feb 21:23
Of course, however.....ach, just go back to being an obedient Goy.
I`m only half Goy, will that do?
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 5 Feb 11:33
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Wed 4 Feb 23:12
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 4 Feb 21:23
Of course, however.....ach, just go back to being an obedient Goy.
I`m only half Goy, will that do?
All the same to them.
Back on topic, the media tryibg to paint Epstein as a Putin agent is pathetically sad.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 5 Feb 12:36
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Thu 5 Feb 11:33
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Bletchley_Par, Wed 4 Feb 23:12
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 4 Feb 21:23
Of course, however.....ach, just go back to being an obedient Goy.
I`m only half Goy, will that do?
All the same to them.
Back on topic, the media tryibg to paint Epstein as a Putin agent is pathetically sad.
Especially since the evidence is there that he was working on the behalf of Israel
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 5 Feb 14:23
Quote:
red-star-par, Thu 5 Feb 12:36
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Dandy Warhol, Thu 5 Feb 11:33
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Bletchley_Par, Wed 4 Feb 23:12
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 4 Feb 21:23
Of course, however.....ach, just go back to being an obedient Goy.
I`m only half Goy, will that do?
All the same to them.
Back on topic, the media tryibg to paint Epstein as a Putin agent is pathetically sad.
Especially since the evidence is there that he was working on the behalf of Israel
Yup.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 5 Feb 14:47
Starmer`s explanation for appointing Mandelson as US Ambassador is that Mandelson lied to him and his staff during the vetting procedures to check his suitability for the role. How can vetting procedures be effective if they depend on the honesty of the candidate whose answers cannot be independently verified in some way?
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 5 Feb 20:00
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 5 Feb 14:47
Starmer`s explanation for appointing Mandelson as US Ambassador is that Mandelson lied to him and his staff during the vetting procedures to check his suitability for the role. How can vetting procedures be effective if they depend on the honesty of the candidate whose answers cannot be independently verified in some way?
Exactly, especially for someone like Mandelson...you don`t get a name like The Prince Of Darkness for nothing. You would think for anyone in the frame for a job representing the UK or involving matters of national security, that our intelligence services would have also vetted their suitability.
You would think anyway, but then again we had Prince Andrew arranging for the convicted Epstein to fly in girls on his private jet to RAF bases, so presumably that requires a lot of security clearance.
I suspect the influence of Epstein went rather high up
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 6 Feb 10:57
Bill Gates and Epstein discussed "getting rid of poor people once and for all".
And yet he was a go to authority on covid vaccines, trust the science?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Fri 6 Feb 11:50
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Fri 6 Feb 10:57
Bill Gates and Epstein discussed "getting rid of poor people once and for all".
And yet he was a go to authority on covid vaccines, trust the science?
Gates was no more a go to authority on covid vaccines than Dolly Parton was.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 6 Feb 14:01
Quote:
Wotsit, Fri 6 Feb 11:50
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Fri 6 Feb 10:57
Bill Gates and Epstein discussed "getting rid of poor people once and for all".
And yet he was a go to authority on covid vaccines, trust the science?
Gates was no more a go to authority on covid vaccines than Dolly Parton was.
Not true. He hired AMD to make micro PCs running Windows Vista and hid them in the vaccines. He can now connect to millions of people via remote desktop.
Computer Vista AMD Coincidence? I think not.
Post Edited (Fri 06 Feb 14:03)
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 6 Feb 17:36
Quote:
Wotsit, Fri 6 Feb 11:50
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Fri 6 Feb 10:57
Bill Gates and Epstein discussed "getting rid of poor people once and for all".
And yet he was a go to authority on covid vaccines, trust the science?
Gates was no more a go to authority on covid vaccines than Dolly Parton was.
Bollocks, he was all over tv talking about "trust the science", he`s one of thd biggest players in the vaccine game.
Sit down, you fell for the kool aid, didn't you?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
Post Edited (Fri 06 Feb 17:37)
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Fri 6 Feb 19:46
Dolly Parton was also doing that.
You should be aware that, as well as telling us why vaccines are important, medical science strongly advises against consuming processed foods like Kool Aid.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 6 Feb 19:50
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Fri 6 Feb 17:36
Quote:
Wotsit, Fri 6 Feb 11:50
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Fri 6 Feb 10:57
Bill Gates and Epstein discussed "getting rid of poor people once and for all".
And yet he was a go to authority on covid vaccines, trust the science?
Gates was no more a go to authority on covid vaccines than Dolly Parton was.
Bollocks, he was all over tv talking about "trust the science", he`s one of thd biggest players in the vaccine game.
Sit down, you fell for the kool aid, didn`t you?
FFS Rasta we know you didn`t get the bloody vaccine so you must be one of the chosen few not affected by Gates` dastardly plan. Well done on this achievement. Now, what should we be doing to escape his evil clutches? I`ve already wrapped my entire body in tin foil.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Fri 6 Feb 20:19
Hang on was everyone that took the vaccine not meant to die as a result as part of the great reset and other such gibberish.
I also noted this headline last week “UK loses WHO status as measles-free after rise in deaths and fall in jab uptake”
It’s almost like vaccines are preventative medicine as opposed to genicidal* nonsense made up by sad losers desperate to seem important 😱
* we now all know you can commit genicide out in the open with very few consequences so there’s not much of a need for deeply implausible conspiracy
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Fri 6 Feb 21:04
With regard to Mandelson, I read his autobiography a few years ago. I can remember very little about it which suggests that he didn’t have much of interest or anything revelatory to say, and presumably merely confirmed my prejudice that he was rather smarmy with a fine conceit of himself.
The problem with politicians is they tend to reach positions of power due to their party loyalty, or on electability rather than ability. They should make up for the latter by surrounding themselves with good people, yet often they perpetuate the process by appointing their mates. The Civil Service used to take up the slack, but this influence has been greatly eroded.
You need reliable and expert advice, but also good advice to appoint the right advisors. And then the good judgement to decide whether to ignore the advice or follow it. A good advisor should detail the options, the possible consequences of each course of action, and make a recommendation, but there have been so many cases of errors of judgement (Rayner, Reeves) you must conclude that this can be no coincidence. Either there is an arrogance at play, or unacceptable levels of incompetence or inexperience.
Just as football fans, for all they talk about playing football “the right way” (whatever that is), are quite happy to have a hard guy in their team, a midfield enforcer well versed in the dark arts, politicians are quite comfortable having some dodgy characters on their side. It’s the same in other industries – as long as they score lots of goals or sell lots of business or win elections, your defects are ignored.
And it made a bit of sense to appoint Mandy on the expectation of Trump winning the White House. an unconventional appointment, who might be able to schmooze the pants off the orange one. But the risks were well known – he was bad news, and an accident that had happened twice already. The “I believed him when he lied” is no excuse. I had thought that Starmer, having reached a senior position in his previous career couldn’t help but be an improvement on previous duds as PM, but he seems to be trying hard to be the duddiest.
It is ironic that someone who seems rather dull and has had nothing whatsoever to do with Epstein as far as I can see, could be brought down by it, when Trump seems immune. But then I thought it strange that the thing that got cut-through with Trump was him havering in Davos about British Forces, not any of his appalling policies or behaviour.
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Fri 6 Feb 21:14
And following up on my Badenoch/Badenoch comment from the other day, I noted that Starmer pronounced his name as "EpSTINE" at PMQs (albeit in a response to Liz Saville Roberts who also said "EpSTINE). (He may have used the generally accepted form "EpSTEEN" earlier.)
Swinney also said "EpSTINE" at FMQs.
I remember Corbyn getting accused of antisemitism for calling him "EpSHTINE" a few years ago, a pronunciation that was said to emphasise his Jewishness.
Now, I don`t think that any of this was antisemitism and it may have been a sign that Starmer was rattled, but it may also suggest that they are not aware of the implications of their words. (And is perhaps evidence of double standards)
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 7 Feb 09:15
It`s strange that the connections to Israel are being skirted round, especially with the amount of times that their leaders and former leaders are mentioned?
Even to the point of Ed Davey accusing Epstein of being a Russian spy!🤔💩
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Sat 7 Feb 16:27
Kinda ridiculous that the debate reaches that level tbh...it should be pronounced ep-shtine..."St" is pronounced "scht" in German and Yiddish and the name has Ashkenazi (European) Jewish origin...literally translates as "Water-stone" apparently but aye...we`re all antisemites...despite the fact that Scotland is majority non-religious.
Post Edited (Sat 07 Feb 17:07)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 7 Feb 18:01
Rule of thumb is pronounce a person`s name how they pronounce it. If it`s someone you`ve never met or heard of then it`s understandable to get it wrong.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 8 Feb 11:26
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jake89, Fri 6 Feb 19:50
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 6 Feb 17:36
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Bill Gates and Epstein discussed "getting rid of poor people once and for all".
And yet he was a go to authority on covid vaccines, trust the science?
Gates was no more a go to authority on covid vaccines than Dolly Parton was.
Bollocks, he was all over tv talking about "trust the science", he`s one of thd biggest players in the vaccine game.
Sit down, you fell for the kool aid, didn`t you?
FFS Rasta we know you didn`t get the bloody vaccine so you must be one of the chosen few not affected by Gates` dastardly plan. Well done on this achievement. Now, what should we be doing to escape his evil clutches? I`ve already wrapped my entire body in tin foil.
You`re an idiot.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sun 8 Feb 11:41
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Dandy Warhol, Sun 8 Feb 11:26
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jake89, Fri 6 Feb 19:50
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 6 Feb 17:36
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Wotsit, Fri 6 Feb 11:50
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 6 Feb 10:57
Bill Gates and Epstein discussed "getting rid of poor people once and for all".
And yet he was a go to authority on covid vaccines, trust the science?
Gates was no more a go to authority on covid vaccines than Dolly Parton was.
Bollocks, he was all over tv talking about "trust the science", he`s one of thd biggest players in the vaccine game.
Sit down, you fell for the kool aid, didn`t you?
FFS Rasta we know you didn`t get the bloody vaccine so you must be one of the chosen few not affected by Gates` dastardly plan. Well done on this achievement. Now, what should we be doing to escape his evil clutches? I`ve already wrapped my entire body in tin foil.
You`re an idiot.
Ironic
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 8 Feb 13:43
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Dandy Warhol, Sun 8 Feb 11:26
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jake89, Fri 6 Feb 19:50
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 6 Feb 17:36
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Wotsit, Fri 6 Feb 11:50
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 6 Feb 10:57
Bill Gates and Epstein discussed "getting rid of poor people once and for all".
And yet he was a go to authority on covid vaccines, trust the science?
Gates was no more a go to authority on covid vaccines than Dolly Parton was.
Bollocks, he was all over tv talking about "trust the science", he`s one of thd biggest players in the vaccine game.
Sit down, you fell for the kool aid, didn`t you?
FFS Rasta we know you didn`t get the bloody vaccine so you must be one of the chosen few not affected by Gates` dastardly plan. Well done on this achievement. Now, what should we be doing to escape his evil clutches? I`ve already wrapped my entire body in tin foil.
You`re an idiot.
Always straight to throwing around the insults eh Rasta 🙄
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Tue 10 Feb 17:53
Let`s bear in minf that the UK pM will probably lose his position because he appointed someone who was mentioned in the files.
Whilst in the ironically titled land of the free?
Their court adjudicated rapist of a President is mentioned 38,000 times, appointed the guy who gave Epstein the most generous plea deal in history to his cabinet, was best mates with Epstein for a decade, etc, etc, etc.
And now we are being told, much to nobody`s surprise, that the redactions made by the DOJ included the names of accused individuals and constitutes a coverup.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 16 Feb 19:26
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jake89, Sun 8 Feb 13:43
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Dandy Warhol, Sun 8 Feb 11:26
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jake89, Fri 6 Feb 19:50
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 6 Feb 17:36
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Wotsit, Fri 6 Feb 11:50
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 6 Feb 10:57
Bill Gates and Epstein discussed "getting rid of poor people once and for all".
And yet he was a go to authority on covid vaccines, trust the science?
Gates was no more a go to authority on covid vaccines than Dolly Parton was.
Bollocks, he was all over tv talking about "trust the science", he`s one of thd biggest players in the vaccine game.
Sit down, you fell for the kool aid, didn`t you?
FFS Rasta we know you didn`t get the bloody vaccine so you must be one of the chosen few not affected by Gates` dastardly plan. Well done on this achievement. Now, what should we be doing to escape his evil clutches? I`ve already wrapped my entire body in tin foil.
You`re an idiot.
Always straight to throwing around the insults eh Rasta 🙄
Happy to meet you to dispel that wee myth.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 16 Feb 22:28
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Dandy Warhol, Mon 16 Feb 19:26
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jake89, Sun 8 Feb 13:43
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Dandy Warhol, Sun 8 Feb 11:26
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jake89, Fri 6 Feb 19:50
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 6 Feb 17:36
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Wotsit, Fri 6 Feb 11:50
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 6 Feb 10:57
Bill Gates and Epstein discussed "getting rid of poor people once and for all".
And yet he was a go to authority on covid vaccines, trust the science?
Gates was no more a go to authority on covid vaccines than Dolly Parton was.
Bollocks, he was all over tv talking about "trust the science", he`s one of thd biggest players in the vaccine game.
Sit down, you fell for the kool aid, didn`t you?
FFS Rasta we know you didn`t get the bloody vaccine so you must be one of the chosen few not affected by Gates` dastardly plan. Well done on this achievement. Now, what should we be doing to escape his evil clutches? I`ve already wrapped my entire body in tin foil.
You`re an idiot.
Always straight to throwing around the insults eh Rasta 🙄
Happy to meet you to dispel that wee myth.
I`ve never met Rasta so how would I know? You`re definitely Rasta though. I`m glad you`re doing okay.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 17 Feb 11:34
Sure, ok Jake, ok, your idiocy wins.
So, you all believe there are high profile rapists and nonces running the world, how about the revelation covid was staged?
Or are we exercising selective belief in the worlds likely most prolific paedophile and trafficker.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 17 Feb 13:07
Why would COVID be staged?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 17 Feb 13:14
Cant believe folk still think that all of the world’s governments combined to run a COVID scam, meanwhile all bombing each other to bits now…….🤦🏻♂️
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Sat 21 Feb 05:59
Covid came about because of a lab leak at the Wuhan Institute or Virology, very likely due to poor safety standards, lack of equipment to meet set safety guidelines or staff being poorly trained. The extent to which it damaged the world is the fault solely of the Chinese Communist Party who lied about it`s infectious nature and paid off people in the WHO so China wouldn`t "lose face".
In short: Covid wasn`t staged, it was a clear example of why China under the CCP cannot be trusted.
As for nonces running the world, think that implies it is very widespread but I think it that there will be more Mandelsons and Prince Andrews to come!
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 24 Feb 10:41
"The useless eaters will be dead by 2050"
Not my quote.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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