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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 26 Apr 08:42
Another attempt on Trump’s life carried out. This time at the correspondents dinner at the Washington Hilton hotel; ironically at the same place where Ronald Reagan was shot and injured. Trump wasn’t hurt but one of his security guards was shot at point blank range, however he was wearing a bullet proof vest. The suspect was arrested.
The BBC News reporter, Gary O’Donoghue, was in attendance and his account of what happened is frightening as he and a colleague had to hide under a table in the dining room.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sun 26 Apr 10:29
Did he jump up and raise his fist defiantly,with the US Flag perfectly placed behind him, to be photographed by the assembled press, or was it a real shooting this time
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Topic Originator: auldpar
Date: Sun 26 Apr 10:52
His ratings are down, the Epstein files won`t go away and Iran ain`t going well. I wonder?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 26 Apr 13:15
The more you watch it, the more it looks staged. No rush from the Secret Service to get to him, in fact they rush JD Vance off stage before anyone even gets close to Trump. Folk filming manage to keep filming despite gunshots being heard in the room. Suspect managed to get in to a presidential dinner with guns.
I agree with the post above - distraction techniques from the failures of his 2nd term.
Post Edited (Sun 26 Apr 13:42)
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 26 Apr 13:31
I`m really glad he wasn`t injured...... I really like his reporting.
After listening to the wrestling episode on Everything is Fake and Nobody Cares it is difficult to unsee this as being anything other than a staged event.
Ironic that the host this year was meant to be someone regarding mind control.....
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 26 Apr 13:44
Quote:
ipswichpar, Sun 26 Apr 13:31
I`m really glad he wasn`t injured...... I really like his reporting.
After listening to the wrestling episode on Everything is Fake and Nobody Cares it is difficult to unsee this as being anything other than a staged event.
Ironic that the host this year was meant to be someone regarding mind control.....
Trump was in the middle of one of these tricks as the first shots rang out - and they all looked fairly relaxed about the whole thing. No clamour, no diving under tables, no diving on the President from the secret service like when Reagan was shot….
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 26 Apr 14:04
Takes the focus off the debacle that is Iran.
Hopefully one day soon, we are rid of Trump, Putin and Netanyahu?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 26 Apr 15:09
When Reagan was shot the killer was up close and people could see the shooter. Last night, if I understand correctly, the shooter wasn`t even in the same room. The shots were heard, I dare say radios were being listened to and yelled into, all while the drama at the other side of the security checkpoint/corden unfolded. As for Vance being taken off stage first I`d assume that`s because the president and the vice have assigned and separate secret service details.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sun 26 Apr 19:27
Apart from the first shot at security, I was assuming the other shots heard were from them as they attempted to stop him.
Strangely they all missed their target who is alive and well.
Anyone smell sh1te?
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 26 Apr 19:55
Another video showing the gunman “rushing” security…..sprints right through a barrier as the guard steps back and ducks down, rather than just clotheslining the guy.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 26 Apr 20:00
Well there will now be a court case that will last some time so they`ll have to keep this charade up for quite some time. Quite a number of actors will have to be employed to play the family of Cole Allen for the next few.months. I hope nobody comes forward to say "that`s not Cole Allen`s wife/sister/mother! That`s the woman I studied with at drama school!".
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sun 26 Apr 20:14
I did chuckle when the Washington Police Chief described him as a "lone actor" before realising his Freudian slip and then saying "a lone gunman".
Looks like another fake assassination attempt, Trump will be hoping that it keeps the Epstein Files and the disaster that is Operation Epstein Fury against Iran out of the headlines
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 27 Apr 06:55
The miracle ear survives!
What a pantomime.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Mon 27 Apr 07:41
Are we meant to believe that it`s possible to simply run in to the WH off the street, through security and head towards the President without being stopped?
It`s harder to get through the self-service counter at Asda
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 27 Apr 09:21
No you`re not supposed to believe that because it didn`t take place at the White House. It took place at the Washington Hilton. The hotel remained open to other guests while the ballroom held the event/dinner. The assailant had booked a room at the hotel and when he approached the checkpoint to gain access to the part of the hotel that was sealed off he got into a firefight with security.
And although my eyes were open
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Mon 27 Apr 09:36
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Mon 27 Apr 09:21
No you`re not supposed to believe that because it didn`t take place at the White House. It took place at the Washington Hilton. The hotel remained open to other guests while the ballroom held the event/dinner. The assailant had booked a room at the hotel and when he approached the checkpoint to gain access to the part of the hotel that was sealed off he got into a firefight with security.
As I said, WH. Which regardless of being open to guests, would surely have been the most secure location in the US at that particular time, given the President and VP were both in attendance.
Jusding by the cctv footage, eyewitness reports and statements made by officials, there was no firefight, he simply ran past them. If that`s correct, then at best it`s one of the biggest VIP protection eff-ups in history.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 27 Apr 10:32
I said firefight because gun shots were heard and an agent took a shot to a bullet resistant vest. To me it seems like security worked exactly like it was supposed to. Several layers of security and it worked before the assailant got into a position to cause harm to their intended target.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 27 Apr 10:35
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Mon 27 Apr 10:32
I said firefight because gun shots were heard and an agent took a shot to a bullet resistant vest. To me it seems like security worked exactly like it was supposed to. Several layers of security and it worked before the assailant got into a position to cause harm to their intended target.
I mean, he literally runs right past the first check point……it’s comical.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 27 Apr 10:54
That`s why they have several checkpoints. Does any part of him running past that checkpoint looked staged to you? The conspiracy now needs everyone of those agents and police officers being in on it.
And although my eyes were open
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 27 Apr 11:56
It depends on how far back he has come from - he has ran through the checkpoint at a fair speed, so I’m guessing he would have had to have had a fair run up to it - plenty of time to be spotted by the armed guards, who just stand by and let him run past them before bending down and drawing weapons - which they then don’t discharge despite him being a clear threat.
Make it make sense……
Post Edited (Mon 27 Apr 11:56)
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 27 Apr 12:11
From a BBC report on the incident.
Police said security officials and the suspect exchanged fire on a level of the hotel that was one floor above where Trump and other guests had gathered.
CCTV posted on social media by Trump shows the suspect charge through one of these checkpoints, before Secret Service agents open fire. Authorities have said he was in possession of a shotgun, handgun and multiple knives.
He exchanged gunfire with officers before being stopped.
CNN`s Wolf Blitzer told the network he saw the suspect shoot several times using a "very very serious" weapon.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 27 Apr 12:48
So TOWK, how do you feel about Trump`s improbable ear?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 27 Apr 13:49
Quote:
red-star-par, Sun 26 Apr 10:29
Did he jump up and raise his fist defiantly,with the US Flag perfectly placed behind him, to be photographed by the assembled press, or was it a real shooting this time
You should ask David Dutch and James Copenhaver if it was staged.
Or the wife and daughter of Corey Comperatore. They’d tell you how ‘fake’ it was
Unless you’ve of course got some explanation for them being shot and it still being fake.
COYP
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Mon 27 Apr 14:05
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NMCmassive, Mon 27 Apr 13:49
Unless you’ve of course got some explanation for them being shot and it still being fake.
Given where the world has found itself recently, the power they have, and the depths of depravity these people stoop to, it wouldn`t be unthinkable that perhaps some regular folk would be sacrificed to make an event seem more credible.
Their deaths weren`t fake, but that doesn`t necessarily mean it happened exactly how the official narrative claims
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 27 Apr 16:44
Fact is I don`t know the first thing about the anatomy of an ear and how it reacts to being grazed with a bullet. I`ll concede it does seem a bit strange that it doesn`t appear to have caused any permanent scarring but I`ve never seen a close up of his ear. The thing that stops me from believing that either attempt was staged is this. How do you convince, in the case in Pennsylvania, a young man to climb onto a roof and start taking pot shots at a presidential candidate (remember he wasn`t President Trump at the time) ? Not just take pot shots though but to actually miss on purpose? Or in the case at weekend how do you convince a by all accounts, one time pleasant, 31 year old college graduate, to try to storm a presidential dinner and start shooting at federal agents? I mean if it isn`t staged then he`s spending the rest of his life in a prison cell getting out for one hour a day to stretch his legs. If it is staged though then what is he going to say at the court case? Seems he`ll be able to get a pretty cushy pleas deal.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 27 Apr 17:26
Quote:
BouncyPar, Mon 27 Apr 14:05
Quote:
NMCmassive, Mon 27 Apr 13:49
Unless you’ve of course got some explanation for them being shot and it still being fake.
Given where the world has found itself recently, the power they have, and the depths of depravity these people stoop to, it wouldn`t be unthinkable that perhaps some regular folk would be sacrificed to make an event seem more credible.
Their deaths weren`t fake, but that doesn`t necessarily mean it happened exactly how the official narrative claims
What do you think happened?
COYP
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Mon 27 Apr 18:29
Quote:
NMCmassive, Mon 27 Apr 17:26
What do you think happened?
Honestly, I don`t know, and we (the general public) never will.
I don`t believe that this was a true attempt as portrayed by official sources.
There are various reasons why it may have been staged, depending how deep down the wormhole you wish to dive, but my gut instinct would be to push the need for a more secure ballroom to be built at the White House.
Ive spent several years working a close protection detail both here and abroad, and several more years working in cordon security. Quite simply, this type of breach, where someone could get remotely close to a primary target just by running, doesn`t happen... Unless they want it to happen.
There`s so many errors at play, several outer cordons, plain clothe observers, the red flag of the suspect arriving at the hotel and booking in the day before (likely wouldn`t be possible, as all residents would be vetted in advance). It just all screams of a setup as opposed to a series of negligent errors.
There`s every possibility that the location shown on the cctv wasn`t even in the hotel. Likewise, there`s many reasons why someone would agree to be a patsy. If we are going to stretch our imagination to any of the above being possible, let`s stretch a little further. Let`s consider that our suspect has messed up a previously ok life. Fallen into huge debt, drugs, or maybe even killed someone in a bar fight (it`s a stretch, but go with me here). He fits the profile of who "they" want for an operation like this, so they offer him a deal. They create him a new ID with backstory, he takes the rap, sits tight in protection for a while, goes through a show trial, gets sentenced, and then disappears to start a new life elsewhere.
I know it probably seems crazy, but so did Epsteins island a few years ago.
There`s also the possibility of MK Ultra at play, and our suspect having absolutely no idea at all of his actions. It used to be a conspiracy theory, now it`s been admitted that the US military have brainwashed people, and are able to "switch them on" to a mission by simply playing a noise or saying a particular phrase.
It all sounds far fetched, I get that. But we live in a world where nothing is as it seems anymore, and it`s our duty to question the narrative, especially if it doesn`t add up
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Mon 27 Apr 22:45
Looney who thinks Trump is something special "decides to take him out for humanity".
He remarkably has survived this assassination attempt.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 28 Apr 05:17
He’s right about him being a racist, paedophile and rapist.
He was touchy as fk when the interviewer brought that up
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 28 Apr 12:38
Trump is incredibly thin-skinned. The lady from CBS simply quoted the words written by the guy arrested for the shooting and he called her `nasty` for asking him the question. It`s hard to believe someone so sensitive to such reasonable interrogation could be elected to such a powerful position.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Fri 1 May 14:57
Did anyone see UFC boss Dana Whites take on precedings
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sun 3 May 06:34
Whole thing was an inside job. The security footage is embarrassing. I`ve seen better acting in school plays than the special forces showed
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 3 May 11:52
Quote:
Andrew283, Sun 3 May 06:34
Whole thing was an inside job. The security footage is embarrassing. I`ve seen better acting in school plays than the special forces showed
The guy`s magically appearing sign too, laughable.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 10 May 23:33
So basically we’ve got to make stuff up to try make it all fit in some elaborate story 🤷🏻♂️
Everyone seems to be screaming about the rise in the far right while ignoring politically motivated attacks and assassinations from the left. It’s all supposed to be inside jobs and the right doing it to themselves.
Meanwhile on this side of the pond we’ve got protesters that are protesting reform getting votes while someone called ‘Q’ who’s a Tamil Indian on a student visa and will earn almost £80k a year as an MSP. It just doesn’t make sense to me. It’s actually embarrassing.
COYP
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 10 May 23:51
Q was perfectly entitled to stand and was legitimately elected though. While some may question being represented by a trans immigrant, it`s who the public in Edinburgh voted for.
Personally, as someone who has voted Green in the past, I find it frustrating that they are unable to make compromises with their policies, and also that they seem to have moved away from being a party that is about the environment to one about gender issues. My hope is that the SNP seek to work with all parties, including Reform if need be, to drive forward Scotland`s economy and improve the lives of the people of Scotland. Sadly, this won`t happen with certain characters within our political parties who care more about making a point than the people of Scotland.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 11 May 00:56
Quote:
jake89, Sun 10 May 23:51
Q was perfectly entitled to stand and was legitimately elected though. While some may question being represented by a trans immigrant, it`s who the public in Edinburgh voted for.
Personally, as someone who has voted Green in the past, I find it frustrating that they are unable to make compromises with their policies, and also that they seem to have moved away from being a party that is about the environment to one about gender issues. My hope is that the SNP seek to work with all parties, including Reform if need be, to drive forward Scotland`s economy and improve the lives of the people of Scotland. Sadly, this won`t happen with certain characters within our political parties who care more about making a point than the people of Scotland.
How he’s even allowed to stand is embarrassing. He’s not even allowed to work full time yet we’ve allowed him to stand for government.
Being elected as an MSP is supposed to be something that’s held in high regard and we’ve given it to someone who’s got zero skin in our game. If he makes a mess it won’t matter to him-he’ll disappear back to India.
Not to mention that internationally, we look like fools. We aren’t taking the running of our country seriously, so why should anyone else?
COYP
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Mon 11 May 05:04
Is this true? For heaven`s sake! British citizenship should be a minimum requirement to stand in a political election. I can`t think of any other country that would allow this.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 11 May 09:07
It`s also worth noting that he was elected as a list msp. He is as essentially elected by green party members as how many people who voted green with their second vote know who is where on each parties list?
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 11 May 09:35
Instead of attacking the person, it was the Government which made the rule. This quote is from a member of the Green Party.
“The Scottish Parliament rightly and explicitly chose to permit everyone with the right to live here to stand in elections, including new Scots on visas.”
They added: “Q is on a valid visa with the right to work and live in Scotland, and is a Commonwealth citizen.”
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 11 May 11:06
Nobody attacked Q but if you can’t write down the truth about Q’s background without someone thinking it’s an attack perhaps that shows how ridiculous it is someone in Q’s position is now earning that much salary.
It’s also true he’s on a student visa that’s restricted to working part time hours - irrelevant of what statements the Green Party put out, which are all worthless especially now that Q seems to have started a crowdfunding campaign to raise funds so he can apply for a new visa.
Funnily enough he’s going cap in hand to the white people he would post about not liking in social media.
I didn’t know he was a list candidate, that only proves more to me the green party are just absolutely bonkers.
I actually can’t believe how terrible our politics are these days.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 11 May 13:46
Funnily enough there is outrage about this but nothing about Malcolm Offord finishing 3rd, yes THIRD, in his constituency vote and still getting a seat…….
The Scottish elections are a farce for this reason alone. Meanwhile the Unionist news outlets whip up that its been a “disaster” for the SNP as they didn’t win a majority when the system is designed to stop them doing so.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Mon 11 May 14:26
Trying to paint a party getting more than triple the elected members of their nearest rivals, after two decades in power, as anything other than a triumph is just sour grapes from the unionist parties.
They would all sell their grannies to be in the SNP`s position.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 11 May 14:50
I found it quite laughable during the election campaign that the unionist parties kept going on about how the SNP had been in control for almost two decades as if they were some totalitarian government which was not subject to the democratic process. In fact they`d won the last four elections so any criticism was effectively being directed at the voters these parties were trying to persuade to vote for them. The other remarkable thing is that this record of electoral success has been achieved in the face of continuous hostilty from the media.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 11 May 15:18
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 11 May 13:46
Funnily enough there is outrage about this but nothing about Malcolm Offord finishing 3rd, yes THIRD, in his constituency vote and still getting a seat…….
The Scottish elections are a farce for this reason alone. Meanwhile the Unionist news outlets whip up that its been a “disaster” for the SNP as they didn’t win a majority when the system is designed to stop them doing so.
That’s actually a fair point. The fact he’s actually Scottish and cant disappear back to India is a big difference for me though.
Q could be called W and be from Poland and I’d still be calling it out.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Mon 11 May 15:38
I wish I had the head space to worry about such spurious p!5h whith everything else that`s going on in the world.
Post Edited (Mon 11 May 15:43)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 11 May 16:29
Quote:
NMCmassive, Mon 11 May 15:18
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 11 May 13:46
Funnily enough there is outrage about this but nothing about Malcolm Offord finishing 3rd, yes THIRD, in his constituency vote and still getting a seat…….
The Scottish elections are a farce for this reason alone. Meanwhile the Unionist news outlets whip up that its been a “disaster” for the SNP as they didn’t win a majority when the system is designed to stop them doing so.
That’s actually a fair point. The fact he’s actually Scottish and cant disappear back to India is a big difference for me though.
Q could be called W and be from Poland and I’d still be calling it out.
We all know why you’re calling it out NMC and it’s got nothing to do with where they’re from.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 11 May 17:21
Quote:
buffy, Mon 11 May 16:29
Quote:
NMCmassive, Mon 11 May 15:18
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 11 May 13:46
Funnily enough there is outrage about this but nothing about Malcolm Offord finishing 3rd, yes THIRD, in his constituency vote and still getting a seat…….
The Scottish elections are a farce for this reason alone. Meanwhile the Unionist news outlets whip up that its been a “disaster” for the SNP as they didn’t win a majority when the system is designed to stop them doing so.
That’s actually a fair point. The fact he’s actually Scottish and cant disappear back to India is a big difference for me though.
Q could be called W and be from Poland and I’d still be calling it out.
We all know why you’re calling it out NMC and it’s got nothing to do with where they’re from.
They’re a student that’s here on a visa. That’s my problem with it.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Mon 11 May 18:09
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 11 May 13:46
Funnily enough there is outrage about this but nothing about Malcolm Offord finishing 3rd, yes THIRD, in his constituency vote and still getting a seat…….
The Scottish elections are a farce for this reason alone. Meanwhile the Unionist news outlets whip up that its been a “disaster” for the SNP as they didn’t win a majority when the system is designed to stop them doing so.
Maree Todd a SNP candidate came third in the constituency but got elected on the list, meanwhile Fergus Ewing stood as an independent only on the constituency and lost but if he had stood on the list he would have got in.He apparently said that it was unfair on others standing on both routes.
Never bothered Murdo Fraser though,he`s stood on the constituency 7 times and lost and 7 times on the list and never failed to get in.Think the term for that is a carpet-bagger.
Lastly Angus Robertson lost his constituency seat but was 3rd on the list behind 2 other SNP candidates which has raised eyebrows as to why he didn`t head the SNP candidates.
Post Edited (Mon 11 May 18:23)
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Tue 12 May 09:35
What has any of this to do with the correspondents dinner shooting
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Tue 12 May 13:43
Nothing.
But identity politics really matter to some folk for reasons I cannot fathom.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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