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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Wed 6 May 11:36
It`s going to have to be snp for me again and again mostly by default. Not overly enthusiastic about independence anymore and they haven`t a stellar record in government but their opponents are woeful and by large I think most of the snp representatives are a good bunch.
Tories and Reform a big no, especially the latter.
Lib Dems nope but could maybe be persuaded for my list vote.
Labour, don`t actually mind the job their doing at a UK level but their Scottish mob are a joke.
Greens, not for me.
So it`s snp again but I do worry about any party just continually winning elections without ever really delivering in government.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 6 May 12:00
It must be something to do with getting older. Whenever I compare current politicians with those of previous years it seems to be like things are on the decline.
If I had a vote then I think I would be putting it the SNP way too. I trust Swinney much more than the others.
It is always worrying when so many politicians are changing though. Never know if you are voting for what you think you are.
I don`t think that the number of parties that are trying to distance themselves from their UK party is particularly reassuring or gives any level of confidence that they will be focussed on actually getting the job done.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 6 May 13:06
It`s SNP for me, and Greens for the list vote, only because they are the biggest other party that favours independence. I`ve probably voted around all the other parties during my life (except the Tories obviously) but I can`t see me going back to the Liberal Democrats or Labour (bought and paid for by Israel) any time soon. Disappointed to see so many people pulled in by Reforms soundbite politics, folk were fooled over Brexit and will get fooled again
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Wed 6 May 13:31
I want independence but for me, and while snp is the only vehicle for that, I find it harder and harder to vote for them due to their views on many issues that I don’t agree with.
I really look forward to the day when Scotland is independent and we have our first proper Scottish general election, where various Scotland parties can put forward their vision for Scotland and we get to vote for the actual politics we believe in
Post Edited (Wed 06 May 13:32)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 6 May 14:30
I see an advert popping up on these forums encouraging people to vote, which seems to be promoted by the Labour Party. Isn`t this in breach of the Forum Rules?
`Political propaganda or material will not be housed or promoted on the forum, which is only to be used as a talking shop for discussion.`
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 6 May 20:15
Just a wee reminder, NOT to vote for this utter cretin tomorrow. It was bad enough reading his weekly letters to the Dunfermline Press, hopefully he doesn`t get a wider platform to spout his slavers. From the Daily Record. "EXCLUSIVE: A Reform UK candidate at this week`s Holyrood election has been criticised after he branded politicians without children as "reckless" and "out of step with normal people" 🤔
Otto Inglis, who is standing for Nigel Farage`s party in Dunfermline, also criticised same-sex marriages and once claimed "nature makes it much easier for mixed-sex couples to meet their children’s needs".
In a letter to a newspaper in 2017 that he could not "help feeling strong misgivings" about the election of Leo Varadkar as the new Taoiseach of Ireland.
Writing at a time when Nicola Sturgeon was First Minister, Inglis wrote: "Like the three most important politicians in Europe, Angela Merkel, Emmanuel Macron and Theresa May and all bar one of the Scottish party leaders, Mr Varadkar is childless.
"Politicians have a notorious tendency towards short-termism and looking no further than the next election. Parenthood, on the other hand, encourages people to look to the long term."
He continued: "Europe’s increasingly childless governing elite is reckless, intellectually sterile and out of step with normal people, for the majority of whom parenthood is central to their life experience."
In a separate newspaper letter sent in 2012, Inglis questioned whether churches and other places of worship should be forced to conduct same-sex marriages.
He wrote: "The important question is - should churches, synagogues and mosques be able to avoid marrying same-sex couples?"
Inglis previously stood as a UKIP candidate at multiple elections in the 2010s. In 2019, he was condemned at an election hustings in Linlithgow after reportedly describing the then 16-year old climate activist Greta Thunberg "aspergers girl".
A Labour source said: "It`s appalling that Otto Inglis has been put forward by Reform in Dunfermline when he thinks LGBT people shouldn`t have the same rights as everyone else.
"This is the latest in a long line of shocking stories about Reform candidates - Fifers should keep their toxic homophobia out of our politics at Thursday`s elections."
The Record asked Reform UK for comment."
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 6 May 20:30
SNP for me - they might not be without flaws, but the rest of them are that deep in the trough I could never trust them with a penny.
Also the Cowdenbeath candidate, David Barrett, had done a fair bit of good as a councillor, including helping my mum out with complex land ownership issues. Could do some good here, especially ahead of a Reformer.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 6 May 20:55
Anyone voting for Otto Inglis genuinely needs sent to a remote island. The guy`s ex Family Party.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 7 May 07:04
Quote:
jake89, Wed 6 May 20:55
Anyone voting for Otto Inglis genuinely needs sent to a remote island. The guy`s ex Family Party.
There`s a few posters on this forum sadly. Braindead
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 7 May 07:35
Do Reform have anyone that is even remotely likeable ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Thu 7 May 08:07
apologies for the political advert popping up, outwith our control.
I`ll get onto them today and ask them to stop .o)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 7 May 14:20
The site seems to have become a permanent advert for Scottish Labour! I hope they`re paying through the nose for it!
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Thu 7 May 14:54
For me i think reform could be the only way to go tbh, once they fix the singular problem we then punt them, happy days
COYP
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Thu 7 May 15:21
Are site adverts universal or are they algorithm driven by an individual`s search history? (I haven`t noticed any Labour party ads on here, but my Facebook page is littered with adverts from all parties).
Shellypar - I think you are falling for the typical populist agenda - "vote for us because we have a simple solution to whatever it is you are worried about" (which probably won`t work).
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 7 May 15:32
My adverts are just for trainers. I reckon there are some closet Labour fanboys here 😂
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 7 May 15:54
If I`m getting them they haven`t done their homework. There shouldn`t be any political parties advertising on here according to the Forum rules.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Thu 7 May 20:11
SNP for me. No other viable party in Scotland just now tbh.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 7 May 21:04
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 7 May 15:54
If I`m getting them they haven`t done their homework. There shouldn`t be any political parties advertising on here according to the Forum rules.
Ah go on, give Anas a high five. Go on...
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Thu 7 May 21:50
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 7 May 15:54
If I`m getting them they haven`t done their homework. There shouldn`t be any political parties advertising on here according to the Forum rules.
Do the forum rules not just apply to us and what we post? Adverts on the site are a separate matter and between, I`d imagine, Brian (website) or Milos (app) and Google.
I almost exclusively use the app and pay a couple of quid a year to not get adverts so can`t really picture what you mean.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 7 May 22:17
Well, why is brian apologising for it at 8.07 this morning? It would be pretty hypocritical if the rules forbid political propaganda but allow political advertising.
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Thu 7 May 23:53
Quote:
Andrew283, Thu 7 May 07:04
Quote:
jake89, Wed 6 May 20:55
Anyone voting for Otto Inglis genuinely needs sent to a remote island. The guy`s ex Family Party.
There`s a few posters on this forum sadly. Braindead
Wow.
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Fri 8 May 00:02
I honestly think that Scotland could do with a change in Government and fresh ideas, but there is really no alternative to the SNP at the moment. I voted by proxy SNP in the constituency and Green in the Regional. The country is absolutely moving in the direction of Independence and returning to the EU and the sooner this happens, the better.
Tbh, I think people are really silly to dismiss the growth of Reform. Shelly has a point when it comes to immigration (assuming that is the "singular issue") and I think people need to realise that not all immigration is equal. For a long time Scotland has been shielded from the effects of mass immigration and, as a result we have done a good job of integrating those who have come, but its now starting to reach a head. I was one who was never bothered about immigration particularly and then I moved to Sweden in 2015 and saw through work the serious damage that can be caused by uncontrolled "humanitarian" immigration. Gang crime in Malmö has become horrendous and the majority of them doing this are North African and Somali and they would just jump over to Copenhagen so the Swedish Police couldn`t get them. The interesting thing was that the Iranians, Iraqis, Syrians, Kurds and Palestinians were never really a problem. Moreover, the Social Democrat party prohibited the publishing of statistics that showed exactly what groups were committing these crimes. Sweden was one of the safest and most prosperous societies around and now the popular belief among Swedes is that the country is deteriorating. Certain people are desperate to paint the Sweden Democrats as "racist", however the majority of those within the party are former Social Democrats who are tired of seeing the Swedish Welfare systems abused.
When you have the likes of the odious Anas Sarwar complaining in Holyrood that the majority of top positions in Scotland are occupied by white people and not Muslims, then I would be scared that people like that could force Scotland in the same direction.
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Fri 8 May 01:05
Quote:
hurricane_jimmy, Fri 8 May 00:02
I honestly think that Scotland could do with a change in Government and fresh ideas, but there is really no alternative to the SNP at the moment. I voted by proxy SNP in the constituency and Green in the Regional. The country is absolutely moving in the direction of Independence and returning to the EU and the sooner this happens, the better.
Tbh, I think people are really silly to dismiss the growth of Reform. Shelly has a point when it comes to immigration (assuming that is the "singular issue") and I think people need to realise that not all immigration is equal. For a long time Scotland has been shielded from the effects of mass immigration and, as a result we have done a good job of integrating those who have come, but its now starting to reach a head. I was one who was never bothered about immigration particularly and then I moved to Sweden in 2015 and saw through work the serious damage that can be caused by uncontrolled "humanitarian" immigration. Gang crime in Malmö has become horrendous and the majority of them doing this are North African and Somali and they would just jump over to Copenhagen so the Swedish Police couldn`t get them. The interesting thing was that the Iranians, Iraqis, Syrians, Kurds and Palestinians were never really a problem. Moreover, the Social Democrat party prohibited the publishing of statistics that showed exactly what groups were committing these crimes. Sweden was one of the safest and most prosperous societies around and now the popular belief among Swedes is that the country is deteriorating. Certain people are desperate to paint the Sweden Democrats as "racist", however the majority of those within the party are former Social Democrats who are tired of seeing the Swedish Welfare systems abused.
When you have the likes of the odious Anas Sarwar complaining in Holyrood that the majority of top positions in Scotland are occupied by white people and not Muslims, then I would be scared that people like that could force Scotland in the same direction.
Cracking post.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 8 May 06:46
Reform might do something radical regarding immigration but they`ll also privatise parts of the NHS. They can`t be trusted.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 8 May 07:18
Any party with Nigel Farage at the helm can`t be trusted.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 8 May 07:35
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 8 May 07:18
Any party with Nigel Farage at the helm can`t be trusted.
Exactly. A face you wouldn’t tire of slapping
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 8 May 08:25
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Fri 8 May 06:46
Reform might do something radical regarding immigration but they`ll also privatise parts of the NHS. They can`t be trusted.
The leader of Reform is partly to blame for the enormous increase in "illegal" immigrants! Any idiot can stand up and say things like "I`ll stop immigration" or "I`ll stop waste in the NHS". You know what? If you vote for me I`ll guarantee Pars win the cup every year*.
*Definition of "cup" may vary. Actual "cup" may be from IKEA and gifted rather than won. A mug may also be considered a cup, or someone who votes for me.
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Fri 8 May 08:46
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 7 May 22:17
Well, why is brian apologising for it at 8.07 this morning? It would be pretty hypocritical if the rules forbid political propaganda but allow political advertising.
A bit of speculation here but I think there`ll be a setting where some types of adverts are excluded. Like if a site is primarily aimed at kids then you wouldn`t expect drink/gambling/dating adverts to appear. The site owner will have some control over that and it`s their responsibility.
That said, I don`t think it would be hypocritical at all. Brian set this up as a free service for us to discuss all sorts of stuff. It`s not a free advertising platform. When you see adverts then the website receives money for them. That money will pay for hosting costs and whatever other expenses are incurred.
If I`ve read the rules I`ve forgotten them, but I`d imagine it would be the same for any would be advertiser. If they want to put their message out they have to pay.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 8 May 08:48
The grifter will be floating around ignoring all the other stuff.
He didnt even have the balls to get questioned last week on his strange £5m and he will be put today saying how trusted he is and should be PM.
You would think that folk that voted for Brexit would have learned their lesson by now.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 8 May 09:36
Thing is there is nothing even remotely strange about the 5m quid gift. It`s clear what it is all about and although it has garnered media attention it got nowhere near enough.
Jake I`m not sure Farage can be blamed for the increase in illegal immigrants as they are mostly non EU.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 8 May 10:44
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Fri 8 May 09:36
Thing is there is nothing even remotely strange about the 5m quid gift. It`s clear what it is all about and although it has garnered media attention it got nowhere near enough.
Jake I`m not sure Farage can be blamed for the increase in illegal immigrants as they are mostly non EU.
That`s the point. Before Brexit we had the Dublin agreement.
Though we`ve also seen an increase in legal non EU migrants, which I`m sure must anger your average Reform voter.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 8 May 12:14
The Dublin Agreement didn`t really do much to stem illegal immigration though. Then and indeed now asylum seekers should still be processed in the initial country that they enter the EU. The fact that for quite a few reasons they don`t want to remain in the EU and instead are desperate to get to Britain is what needs to be reckoned with.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 8 May 13:36
5x as many boat crossings sounds pretty significant.
Of course, from a Reform perspective, they probably aren`t happy to see so many UK jobs being filled now by non-EU migrants.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Fri 8 May 13:43
SNP win Shetland. Looks like the Greens will pip them to two seats in Glasgow and one in Edinburgh .
Turn out in most constituencies just above 50% which is woeful really but not surprising.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 8 May 14:29
Anas Sarwar`s altready conceded defeat. It was all Keir Starmer`s fault.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 8 May 15:39
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 8 May 14:29
Anas Sarwar`s altready conceded defeat. It was all Keir Starmer`s fault.
It`s always someone else`s fault.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 8 May 15:43
Good to see SNP win in Dunfermline, but really concerning to see someone like Otto Inglis pick up over 5,000 votes. The guy is a complete numpty, he`s like a even dafter version of that Parboiled chap that used to post on here. Democracy has had its day, I think there needs to be some kind of test to see if you are allowed the right to vote
Post Edited (Fri 08 May 15:43)
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Fri 8 May 16:45
Quote:
red-star-par, Fri 8 May 15:43
Good to see SNP win in Dunfermline, but really concerning to see someone like Otto Inglis pick up over 5,000 votes. The guy is a complete numpty, he`s like a even dafter version of that Parboiled chap that used to post on here. Democracy has had its day, I think there needs to be some kind of test to see if you are allowed the right to vote
Careful what you wish for.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Fri 8 May 17:02
Green Party could be the surprise package in this election.
Just got their second constituency seat in Glasgow Southside and I’ve a feeling many SNP voters gave them their list vote.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 8 May 17:27
Would like to see the snp work with the Lib Dems closer than the Greens to get budgets and policies passed.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 8 May 17:46
The Lib Dems have are led by a vile bully. Keep them well away from decision making while that scumbag is still there.
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Fri 8 May 19:11
Quote:
jake89, Fri 8 May 10:44
That`s the point. Before Brexit we had the Dublin agreement.
Though we`ve also seen an increase in legal non EU migrants, which I`m sure must anger your average Reform voter.
Are you aware that the U.K. was net RECIPIENT of transfers under the Dublin agreement?
Yes, proof is available - but this is a discussion for another thread.
The obvious problem for those that keep quoting the Dublin agreement is that the receiving country has to agree to accept migrants back - and obviously, most of the time, they did not agree.
The Dublin agreement was relegated to being a family reunification process.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 8 May 20:14
8,500 coming over before it ended Vs 40,000 now.
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Topic Originator: Jimmy riddell
Date: Fri 8 May 22:10
Scotland will deservedly get what it voted for.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Sat 9 May 11:15
Quote:
Jimmy riddell, Fri 8 May 22:10
Scotland will deservedly get what it voted for.
Independence?
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
Post Edited (Sat 09 May 11:15)
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Sat 9 May 13:16
Quote:
Jimmy riddell, Fri 8 May 22:10
Scotland will deservedly get what it voted for.
Ah yet another unionist quisling cheers for letting the mask slip even further than it already had mate
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sat 9 May 16:55
Quote:
Jimmy riddell, Fri 8 May 22:10
Scotland will deservedly get what it voted for.
Feeling bitter that your vote was wasted yesterday?
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Sat 9 May 17:10
Quote:
jake89, Fri 8 May 20:14
8,500 coming over before it ended Vs 40,000 now.
Which you can point partially at Brexit - or at least the French attitudes toward us after it.
Mainly due to a massive increase of migration all over Europe from Syria/Afghanistan and sub-Saharan Africa - nothing to do with Brexit
And absolutely nothing at all to do with the removal of Dublin agreement, which was completely useless as a tool to try sending migrants back to other European counties.
If you want the exact Dublin removal figures, I have them.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 9 May 18:14
That may be so but it significantly reduced the UK’s ability to return irregular arrivals to Europe, which likely weakened deterrence and contributed to the growth in small-boat crossings after 2020.
It was similar to the Rwanda scheme where the real hope was that the idea of being processed in Rwanda would put people off trying to enter in the first place.
Of course, it`s not all black and white. We can add in things like people switching from lorries to boats and the fact the UK seems to be utterly hopeless at processing people quickly!
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Sat 9 May 22:47
Quote:
jake89, Sat 9 May 18:14
That may be so but it significantly reduced the UK’s ability to return irregular arrivals to Europe, which likely weakened deterrence and contributed to the growth in small-boat crossings after 2020.
It was similar to the Rwanda scheme where the real hope was that the idea of being processed in Rwanda would put people off trying to enter in the first place.
Of course, it`s not all black and white. We can add in things like people switching from lorries to boats and the fact the UK seems to be utterly hopeless at processing people quickly!
The UK’s ability to whut?
Dublin agreement was in place for the U.K. from 2014 to 2020
In that whole time, exactly 2,015 people were transferred out.
Not exactly gonna solve much.
/ in addition, it should be pointed out that the U.K. received 4,030 transfers IN.
Yep, that’s right, your much vaunted Dublin Agreement allowed DOUBLE the number of migrants in than were shunted out - hold the applause.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sun 10 May 01:41
Nah spinney is more interested in indy, rather than getting scotland right, it`s well known fact that and indy scotland cannot afford all the perks gives in trying lure to vote snp. Not with a population of 5.5m million and taxpayers of 3 million.
And farage the biggest crook and liar out there, hes Elon musks sacrificial lamb, trumps mad bedfelliw and putins buddy, so no. Don`t know who, but it won`t be green either as their policy is unworkable, it won`t be labour as they under stalmerr are crap.
Oh dear!!!
Post Edited (Sun 10 May 01:42)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 10 May 10:20
You`re missing the point Lux. It was a deterrent purely because it existed, not because it was effective (or not). This was the reason for the failed Rwanda scheme.
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Sun 10 May 13:34
I agree that Rwanda was intended to be a déterrant by compelling new arrivals straight out.
The Dublin Agreement?
The transfer out of a few hundred WILLING migrants a year, to be beside family in another EU country that agreed in advance to take them?
Not a deterrent in the slightest.
I’m not the one missing the point.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 10 May 23:09
You can come here on a student visa and be elected into parliament.
There is no deterrent.
It’s embarrassing he got voted in.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 11 May 12:23
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sun 10 May 23:09
You can come here on a student visa and be elected into parliament.
There is no deterrent.
It’s embarrassing he got voted in.
You`ve already made a thread, greet there
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 11 May 12:31
Quote:
Andrew283, Mon 11 May 12:23
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sun 10 May 23:09
You can come here on a student visa and be elected into parliament.
There is no deterrent.
It’s embarrassing he got voted in.
You`ve already made a thread, greet there
Brain dead comment.
I’ve no made any threads recently 🤷🏻♂️
You can’t refute anything I’m saying here or anywhere else. It’s both true and embarrassing.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Mon 11 May 15:21
Them`s the rules, they were the same for everyone.
Typical of your mob to whinge and complain after being roundly beaten.
Scotland`s electorate firmly rejected this sort of petty identity politics, and if you don`t like that you can always move to Russia - I hear they lap it up there.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 14 May 13:27
Wes Streeting resigns. Good
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 14 May 14:19
Quote:
Andrew283, Thu 14 May 13:27
Wes Streeting resigns. Good
Cause he is going after the PMs job lol
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 14 May 16:18
Quote:
Dave_1885, Thu 14 May 14:19
Quote:
Andrew283, Thu 14 May 13:27
Wes Streeting resigns. Good
Cause he is going after the PMs job lol
Out of the frying pan into the fire!
What`s wrong with robot mouth Reeves or Batshit Milliband not intelligent enough????🤔🙈😱
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 14 May 16:44
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Thu 14 May 16:18
Quote:
Dave_1885, Thu 14 May 14:19
Quote:
Andrew283, Thu 14 May 13:27
Wes Streeting resigns. Good
Cause he is going after the PMs job lol
Out of the frying pan into the fire!
What`s wrong with robot mouth Reeves or Batshit Milliband not intelligent enough????🤔🙈😱
Id honestly take Milliband as PM
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 14 May 17:08
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Andrew283, Thu 14 May 16:44
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LochgellyAlbert, Thu 14 May 16:18
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Dave_1885, Thu 14 May 14:19
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Andrew283, Thu 14 May 13:27
Wes Streeting resigns. Good
Cause he is going after the PMs job lol
Out of the frying pan into the fire!
What`s wrong with robot mouth Reeves or Batshit Milliband not intelligent enough????🤔🙈😱
Id honestly take Milliband as PM
Leave the comedy to the professionals
COYP
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 14 May 17:33
I hope Ed`s been practising eating bacon sarnies since the last time he was leader of the Labour Party as the proper performance of this social ritual is an absolute prerequisite of becoming the UK Prime Minister.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 14 May 17:45
Labour Friends of Israel have obviously been told by the Israelis they want Starmer out. He was groomed to be their man for a while, but he`s recently been critical of the bombing of Lebanon by Israel, the relationship with Jerusalem has soured and the wheels have been set in motion to replace him. Andy Burnham has long been in the pocket of Israel and they see him as their new man. MP Joshua Simons has been instructed to stand down so Burnham can try and get into Parliament.
Jeremy Corbyn was probably the last honest guy to lead the Labour Party. They saw to it that he was disposed as he wasn`t under the control of Labour Friends of Israel. It would be good to have a government that puts the UK first
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 14 May 18:02
Why don`t they just appoint Netanyahu as pm?
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 14 May 18:10
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LochgellyAlbert, Thu 14 May 18:02
Why don`t they just appoint Netanyahu as pm?
Probably just a logistics thing, he can`t be two places at once, so they will get Andy Burnham in through the back door, make sure the opposition don`t make any real effort to stand against him, ensure the media are right behind Burnham, and he can just do what Netenyahu tells him to
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Fri 15 May 08:05
Whatever way you look at it Westminster is an almighty mess. Politically and organisationally its a shambles. I see absolutely no reason for Scotland staying in this union.
I see plenty reasons why Westminster is desperate to keep us. And none of it is for our benefit.
Scotlands place is in the EU. Where everyone is treated with respect. Thats what we do not get from any Westminster government.
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Fri 15 May 09:07
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pacifist, Fri 15 May 08:05
Whatever way you look at it Westminster is an almighty mess. Politically and organisationally its a shambles. I see absolutely no reason for Scotland staying in this union.
I see plenty reasons why Westminster is desperate to keep us. And none of it is for our benefit.ask snd don`t
Scotlands place is in the EU. Where everyone is treated with respect. Thats what we do not get from any Westminster government.
If we`re not allowed another s30 when will we hear about John`s secret plan, April 2031?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 15 May 10:22
It`s been covered to death that there appears to be no way to gain independence other than ask "permission". That might seem fair where the entity deciding on permission contains equal representation, but we`re talking 50 million Vs 5 million so the result will always be "no".
I genuinely think the only solution available is a revolution, which isn`t desirable.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 15 May 11:01
Big story on X about MP`s expenses fiddle, truly a career where to make money!
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Fri 15 May 11:07
Just look at what each of the current/recent Labour cabinet are worth individually, especially given some of their starts in life and salary to this point!
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Fri 15 May 13:09
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jake89, Fri 15 May 10:22
It`s been covered to death that there appears to be no way to gain independence other than ask "permission". That might seem fair where the entity deciding on permission contains equal representation, but we`re talking 50 million Vs 5 million so the result will always be "no".
I genuinely think the only solution available is a revolution, which isn`t desirable.
Swinney has promised us a referendum if the SNP got re-elected in 2026....
Post Edited (Fri 15 May 13:11)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 15 May 13:26
If he did `promise` that I`m pretty sure anyone who follows politics knows that it`s not within his current powers to do so. I see you`re back to your old tricks, Tenruh, blaming the SNP for something which isn`t their fault.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 15 May 13:54
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wee eck, Fri 15 May 13:26
If he did `promise` that I`m pretty sure anyone who follows politics knows that it`s not within his current powers to do so. I see you`re back to your old tricks, Tenruh, blaming the SNP for something which isn`t their fault.
And offering 0 legitimate options to Independence.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 15 May 14:02
Whatever happened to Alba?
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Fri 15 May 14:41
Were they not like reform, in the sense that they were predominantly a one person/figure head party?
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 15 May 15:08
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LochgellyAlbert, Thu 14 May 18:02
Why don`t they just appoint Netanyahu as pm?
Might as well, Streeting`s grooming by israel goes back to his uni days.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 15 May 15:48
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 15 May 15:08
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LochgellyAlbert, Thu 14 May 18:02
Why don`t they just appoint Netanyahu as pm?
Might as well, Streeting`s grooming by israel goes back to his uni days.
Allegedly lived on a kibbutz for a number of years!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 15 May 16:50
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Tenruh, Fri 15 May 13:09
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jake89, Fri 15 May 10:22
It`s been covered to death that there appears to be no way to gain independence other than ask "permission". That might seem fair where the entity deciding on permission contains equal representation, but we`re talking 50 million Vs 5 million so the result will always be "no".
I genuinely think the only solution available is a revolution, which isn`t desirable.
Swinney has promised us a referendum if the SNP got re-elected in 2026....
He isn`t even elected yet, give him a chance 😂
The question is what will happen when it`s requested.
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Fri 15 May 18:59
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jake89, Fri 15 May 16:50
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Tenruh, Fri 15 May 13:09
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jake89, Fri 15 May 10:22
It`s been covered to death that there appears to be no way to gain independence other than ask "permission". That might seem fair where the entity deciding on permission contains equal representation, but we`re talking 50 million Vs 5 million so the result will always be "no".
I genuinely think the only solution available is a revolution, which isn`t desirable.
Swinney has promised us a referendum if the SNP got re-elected in 2026....
He isn`t even elected yet, give him a chance 😂
The question is what will happen when it`s requested.
He`ll get chased, we might get independence off the back of Wales and NI
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Fri 15 May 20:38
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jake89, Fri 15 May 10:22
It`s been covered to death that there appears to be no way to gain independence other than ask "permission". That might seem fair where the entity deciding on permission contains equal representation, but we`re talking 50 million Vs 5 million so the result will always be "no".
I genuinely think the only solution available is a revolution, which isn`t desirable.
Always? What happened in 2014?
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Fri 15 May 23:59
If he lived in the kibbutz then he will know first hand that socialism/communism doesn’t actually work.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 16 May 10:13
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Tad Allagash, Fri 15 May 20:38
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jake89, Fri 15 May 10:22
It`s been covered to death that there appears to be no way to gain independence other than ask "permission". That might seem fair where the entity deciding on permission contains equal representation, but we`re talking 50 million Vs 5 million so the result will always be "no".
I genuinely think the only solution available is a revolution, which isn`t desirable.
Always? What happened in 2014?
You mean the dodgiest vote in recent times where entire media companies were set up just to ensure a no vote? Media companies backed by questionable individuals? Or are you meaning the vow that was scrapped the second the election results came in?
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Sat 16 May 12:19
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jake89, Sat 16 May 10:13
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Tad Allagash, Fri 15 May 20:38
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jake89, Fri 15 May 10:22
It`s been covered to death that there appears to be no way to gain independence other than ask "permission". That might seem fair where the entity deciding on permission contains equal representation, but we`re talking 50 million Vs 5 million so the result will always be "no".
I genuinely think the only solution available is a revolution, which isn`t desirable.
Always? What happened in 2014?
You mean the dodgiest vote in recent times where entire media companies were set up just to ensure a no vote? Media companies backed by questionable individuals? Or are you meaning the vow that was scrapped the second the election results came in?
SNP chose the question, chose the date, and chose the electorate. But the ‘no’ side shouldn’t have been allowed to campaign? 😂😂😂
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 16 May 13:02
That`s not what he said.
Personally, politics aside,I can`t understand how any country would forfeit the right to govern itself. In particular I`ve never understood how the Tory party, who are the main opponents to Scottish independence, aren`t in favour of it. After all they are also proponents of people being self-reliant and looking after themselves.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 16 May 13:22
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Tad Allagash, Sat 16 May 12:19
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jake89, Sat 16 May 10:13
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Tad Allagash, Fri 15 May 20:38
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jake89, Fri 15 May 10:22
It`s been covered to death that there appears to be no way to gain independence other than ask "permission". That might seem fair where the entity deciding on permission contains equal representation, but we`re talking 50 million Vs 5 million so the result will always be "no".
I genuinely think the only solution available is a revolution, which isn`t desirable.
Always? What happened in 2014?
You mean the dodgiest vote in recent times where entire media companies were set up just to ensure a no vote? Media companies backed by questionable individuals? Or are you meaning the vow that was scrapped the second the election results came in?
SNP chose the question, chose the date, and chose the electorate. But the ‘no’ side shouldn’t have been allowed to campaign? 😂😂😂
Click here
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Sat 16 May 17:30
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jake89, Sat 16 May 13:22
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Tad Allagash, Sat 16 May 12:19
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jake89, Sat 16 May 10:13
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Tad Allagash, Fri 15 May 20:38
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jake89, Fri 15 May 10:22
It`s been covered to death that there appears to be no way to gain independence other than ask "permission". That might seem fair where the entity deciding on permission contains equal representation, but we`re talking 50 million Vs 5 million so the result will always be "no".
I genuinely think the only solution available is a revolution, which isn`t desirable.
Always? What happened in 2014?
You mean the dodgiest vote in recent times where entire media companies were set up just to ensure a no vote? Media companies backed by questionable individuals? Or are you meaning the vow that was scrapped the second the election results came in?
SNP chose the question, chose the date, and chose the electorate. But the ‘no’ side shouldn’t have been allowed to campaign? 😂😂😂
Click here
My point was you were wrong, without even a hint of rightness.
You said something can’t happen when it has already happened. That’s called being wrong.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 16 May 21:15
No, I said the only way appears to be to ask "permission". Try reading 🙄 If this is a voluntary union, why the need for permission?
Unrelated, but highly amusing, Reform UK (Scotland branch) had local porn star Lana Wolf at their launch celebrations. I suppose she`s accustomed to getting shafted off massive cocks.
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Sat 16 May 21:36
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jake89, Sat 16 May 21:15
No, I said the only way appears to be to ask "permission". Try reading 🙄 If this is a voluntary union, why the need for permission?
Unrelated, but highly amusing, Reform UK (Scotland branch) had local porn star Lana Wolf at their launch celebrations. I suppose she`s accustomed to getting shafted off massive cocks.
I don’t know who that is (honest), and I’m scared to google her name. 😆
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 16 May 22:53
I would suggest NOT Googling her!
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Wed 20 May 09:17
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jake89, Sat 16 May 22:53
I would suggest NOT Googling her!
I’d accuse you of having experience but tbf Jake - you don’t strike me as a Lana wolf fan 🤷🏻♂️
COYP
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 20 May 20:43
Is anyone NMC? I can understand if you`re a single fella not getting any but she must be a hard wank.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 26 May 09:20
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jake89, Wed 20 May 20:43
Is anyone NMC? I can understand if you`re a single fella not getting any but she must be a hard wank.
I dunno but you do seem to jump at every opportunity to bring her up.
COYP
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Tue 26 May 09:26
The thing I like to bring up at every opportunity is that Nigel Farage was given 5 million pounds by a foreign based crypto billionaire.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 26 May 11:31
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The One Who Knocks, Tue 26 May 09:26
The thing I like to bring up at every opportunity is that Nigel Farage was given 5 million pounds by a foreign based crypto billionaire.
1. Farage is owned by a foreign based crypto billionaire
2. The SNP steals from its own people
3. Jake loves Lana
COYP
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Tue 26 May 11:56
Is money changing hands in (3) Jake?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 26 May 19:43
Wouldn't touch with a barge-pole, Ipswich. I`m starting to think NMC is a premium subscriber though 😂
Post Edited (Tue 26 May 19:43)
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 26 May 22:35
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jake89, Tue 26 May 19:43
Wouldn`t touch with a barge-pole, Ipswich. I`m starting to think NMC is a premium subscriber though 😂
Eh, naw.
That’s your one to own
COYP
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 27 May 18:43
I`ll ask her at the next Reform rally 😂
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