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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 6 Sep 08:14
Yesterday a far right bunch of yobs and thugs, seemingly part of a group called Patriot Platform, dressed all in black blocked all roads and thoroughfares leading to the port of Dover.
They believe in the justness and righteousness of their cause so much that they needed to cover their faces in balaclavas as they intimidated and menaced locals and motorists going about their business. Police made no arrests.
Compare that to the scores of arrests made (and quite rightly so in my opinion) when the likes of Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion were causing disruption and blocking roads. Difference being those folks had the guts to allow their identities to stand alongside their beliefs. The cretins in Dover yesterday had no such conviction.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 6 Sep 08:41
Likely some of the same idiots putting lives at risk with the driving around that area currently.
Just out to cause trouble no matter what the consequences for others.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 6 Sep 10:50
Yeah Ipswich, the similarities between this group and the gangs terrorising estates in Middlesbrough and other towns has not gone unnoticed.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 6 Sep 11:08
This is why face coverings should be banned. Yeah, I know "what about...". Just ban them.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 6 Sep 11:11
Quote:
jake89, Sun 6 Sep 11:08
This is why face coverings should be banned. Yeah, I know "what about...". Just ban them.
Mate, did you run this by Buffy?
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 6 Sep 12:05
Only there was no thuggery at all, videos of locals dropping off water, juice, snacks.
Kittens compared to what Antifa get up to.
Sure it`s all performative garbage but calling them thugs? Literally nothing happened.
Gotta keep signalling that virtue though huh?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 6 Sep 12:11
I also called them cretins as well and stand by both descriptions.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 6 Sep 12:14
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sun 6 Sept 12:11
I also called them cretins as well and stand by both descriptions.
By all means post the footage of the thuggery.
Meanwhile an Iraqi has been charged with the rape of a young boy.
Imagine it was your kid.
The difference between a far right muppet wearing a mask and an Antifa muppet wearing a mask?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
Post Edited (Sun 06 Sep 12:24)
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 6 Sep 12:26
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Sun 6 Sept 12:14
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sun 6 Sept 12:11
I also called them cretins as well and stand by both descriptions.
By all means post the footage of the thuggery.
Meanwhile an Iraqi has been charged with the rape of a young boy.
Imagine it was your kid.
I think in the past you have written about the impact of mental as well as physical health.
In that vein, thuggery can be emotional as well as physical.
So here`s a quote from local residents from the BBC that they are extremely intimidated.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cmwyzxlzxpzgt
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 6 Sep 12:34
Away you go with that pi$h. I`ll take you word for it as I`m not googling for such vile and despicable crimes which no decent person would do anything other than utterly condemn. In this thread though your going to bat for a bunch of far right zealots cosplaying as SA.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sun 6 Sep 12:57
A bunch of men dressed in black who we can`t identify suddenly turn up in an area and cause disruption.
Yeah this stuff is meta.
I`m guessing just stop oil protestors don`t need to wear masks because most of them don`t have a job to lose, they are mostly retired gender studies professors and trust fund kids and they tend to cause criminal damage.
I imagine the gentlemen at Dover are mostly working class, hence the masks and why it took place on a Saturday.
Nice to see a truly peaceful protest rather than a "mostly" or "largely" peaceful one come off.
Having made their point I hope they choose a less disruptive form of protest the next time they decide to congregate.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 6 Sep 13:50
Why would they fear losing their job if they are protesting peacefully?
Peaceful protest in the UK is legal. Or are you saying that blocking roads and causing traffic disruption is an illegal act?
No problem with them protesting an issue they wish to protest. But whats the need for the balaclavas and intimidating look? Its clear it was meant to make sure locals/people using the port were too scared to challenge them. The issue is the look of them, rather than their actions, which seemed fairly peaceful.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sun 6 Sep 14:01
Quote:
Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 6 Sep 13:50
Why would they fear losing their job if they are protesting peacefully?
Because some people will brand them "thugs" and "yobs" just because of the way they look, you`d be surprised how many people prejudice btw.
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Peaceful protest in the UK is legal. Or are you saying that blocking roads and causing traffic disruption is an illegal act?
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No problem with them protesting an issue they wish to protest. But whats the need for the balaclavas and intimidating look? Its clear it was meant to make sure locals/people using the port were too scared to challenge them. The issue is the look of them, rather than their actions, which seemed fairly peaceful.
Them dressed like that, in uniform makes them all blend in....them dressed in the "Antifa summer range" means they are unlikely to get any bother from anyone.
If these people are who I think they are they have pulled off quite the coup, kept it so quiet that there was no time for whoever normally informs the counter protesters to show up to do so.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 6 Sep 14:02
Saturday is also the busiest day of the week for consumer traffic in the port so I wouldn`t jump to that assumption Bletchley.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 6 Sep 16:14
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Sun 6 Sep 14:01
Quote:
Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 6 Sep 13:50
Why would they fear losing their job if they are protesting peacefully?
Because some people will brand them "thugs" and "yobs" just because of the way they look, you`d be surprised how many people prejudice btw.
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Peaceful protest in the UK is legal. Or are you saying that blocking roads and causing traffic disruption is an illegal act?
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No problem with them protesting an issue they wish to protest. But whats the need for the balaclavas and intimidating look? Its clear it was meant to make sure locals/people using the port were too scared to challenge them. The issue is the look of them, rather than their actions, which seemed fairly peaceful.
Them dressed like that, in uniform makes them all blend in....them dressed in the "Antifa summer range" means they are unlikely to get any bother from anyone.
If these people are who I think they are they have pulled off quite the coup, kept it so quiet that there was no time for whoever normally informs the counter protesters to show up to do so.
Im pretty sure wearing balaclavas and all black, whilst marching in a large group doesnt stop some calling them yobs and thugs though, so why the face coverings? Again, Its not illegal to protest peacfully…..
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sun 6 Sep 16:46
Quote:
Im pretty sure wearing balaclavas and all black, whilst marching in a large group doesnt stop some calling them yobs and thugs though, so why the face coverings? Again, Its not illegal to protest peacfully…..
It`s not a legal matter.
It`s so they are not ID`d by groups like the Hate not Hope, Antifa or lone wolfs.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sun 6 Sep 16:49
I`d add an amendement to that...
It`s not a legal matter officially obviously the blob will be trying to infiltrate this group as we speak, so not having a mark to target makes that more difficult.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 6 Sep 17:23
www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/large-group-of-balaclava-wearing-protestors-target-area-arou-344760/
The video embedded into the article shows these odious individuals trying to intimidate some poor motorist.
Like you say BP, Patriotic Platform will now have an even bigger target on them and with their founder Daniel Thomas, up in court next month their card has been well marked. I`d imagine al the convoy of vans that these peaceful protesters decanted from will be able to have been tracked back on CCTV so at least the owners will now be known to the authorities.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 6 Sep 18:00
All this talk of protests and balaclavas.
The only protests or marches that officially banned the use of balaclavas to join them were arranged by Tommy Robinson or whatever you want to call him. Seems like there are some in here who would agree with him that they shouldn’t be used at protests
COYP
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sun 6 Sep 18:05
Yeah I`m sure all that will happen. Can`t have this happen again without the counter-protesters.
Interesting to ponder how they kept it on the down-low. Certainly off the mobile networks I`d presume.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 6 Sep 19:54
I`m sure the oldies at the pro Palestine demonstrations will agree that protests are legal!🤔🤣
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 6 Sep 20:30
TOWK, you seem rattled, relax, you'll never be left enough.
Plenty of clips showing locals applauding and dropping in water.
Almost as if there`s a left and right in any town huh?
So, anyone want to cover the difference between Antifa wearing masks and other protesters wearing them?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
Post Edited (Sun 06 Sep 20:31)
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 6 Sep 20:59
Quite relaxed but thanks for your concern.
You can cover the differences, if there is any, whenever you like Dandy.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 6 Sep 23:03
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Sun 6 Sept 16:49
I`d add an amendement to that...
It`s not a legal matter officially obviously the blob will be trying to infiltrate this group as we speak, so not having a mark to target makes that more difficult.
I think it actually is illegal now following the Crime and Policing Act 2026 being put into force.
Certain conditions need to be met to put a 24 hour ban in place in that area. And I`m not sure if it was in Dover.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 7 Sep 07:55
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sun 6 Sept 20:59
Quite relaxed but thanks for your concern.
You can cover the differences, if there is any, whenever you like Dandy.
600 arrests at the Notting Hill carnival, none in Dover but they`re the thugs huh, the lefties have even got you hating your own race, the right, the left, same thing, different face mask.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 7 Sep 08:40
The Notting Hill Carnival? What was that protest about?
If the right and left are the same thing then it can`t just be the lefties that have me hating my own race then can it. Not that I do hate my own race, I have no particular feelings at all about my own race. Neither pride nor shame.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Mon 7 Sep 08:47
The difference between right and left is that the left don`t hate any race, and want equality/equity for all. The right only want their own race in this country. Unless they are enjoying a takeaway, or driving a foreign car, or cheering on a foreign footballer etc.
The more we argue amongst ourselves, the more the elite thrive without being challenged.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 7 Sep 09:56
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Mon 7 Sept 08:40
The Notting Hill Carnival? What was that protest about?
If the right and left are the same thing then it can`t just be the lefties that have me hating my own race then can it. Not that I do hate my own race, I have no particular feelings at all about my own race. Neither pride nor shame.
Yep, exactly, not even a protest, supposed to be joyous and yet 600 arrests, so called thugs, not actually thugging, no arrests.
So TOWK, I`ll ask again as you`re avoiding it.
The difference between an Antifa mask and a far right gammon mask?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 7 Sep 10:05
No difference at all. Both worn to intimidate and avoid accountability.
Now I`ll ask you a question. Why have the police arrested numerous climate change protesters for blocking roads but not those on Saturday doing the same?
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 7 Sep 11:05
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Mon 7 Sept 10:05
No difference at all. Both worn to intimidate and avoid accountability.
Now I`ll ask you a question. Why have the police arrested numerous climate change protesters for blocking roads but not those on Saturday doing the same?
Because the far left couldn`t get shipped in quick enough to cause bother?
Maybe ask the police?
Maybe because unlike climate activists they were peaceful (for a change, granted).
You really are clutching those outrage drenched, virtue signalling pearls today huh😂👌
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 7 Sep 11:23
Surely it`s obvious that whether left, right or centrist, there will always be extremists who take things too far? It`s seems even that idiot Farage has worked that out.
Saying that, I would still ban face coverings (I`ve consulted with Buffy and she`s content with me sharing this view, NMC).
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 7 Sep 11:29
Stop coming out with the same patter Dandy.
I mean you are just outright making things up, the climate change protesters who blocked roads weren`t violent and they also weren`t masked. They still got arrested though. I`ll take a leaf out of your playbook here though and again ask YOU, not the asking the police, why do YOU think were they arrested and not the masked road blockers on Saturday.
Maybe if you take your tongue off the far right jack boot for a minute you`ll be able to answer 😂👍
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 7 Sep 12:01
I struggle with all this modern lingo. I understand `virtue signallers` are left-leaning and are always `clutching their pearls` but does this mean their right-leaning counterparts are `vice signallers` and what do they do with their hands?
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 7 Sep 12:41
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Mon 7 Sept 11:29
Stop coming out with the same patter Dandy.
I mean you are just outright making things up, the climate change protesters who blocked roads weren`t violent and they also weren`t masked. They still got arrested though. I`ll take a leaf out of your playbook here though and again ask YOU, not the asking the police, why do YOU think were they arrested and not the masked road blockers on Saturday.
Maybe if you take your tongue off the far right jack boot for a minute you`ll be able to answer 😂👍
Ah, the old far right card, pathetic, septum ring getting itchy, your blue hair need a touch up?
What do i think? They got arrested for blocking roads leading to crucial healthcare services etc,you needed me to tell you that?
You far left, i dunno know, what do you identify as?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Mon 7 Sep 15:42
You`re right Dandy, Far Right is the wrong term for those Fascist idiots besmirching their grandparents` anti-fascist actions in the 1930s and 1940s and their parents` anti-fascist actions to run the NF off our streets in the 1970s and 1980s. Punching fascists is a great British tradition.
Bletchley is correct for once - they were wearing masks to stop what happened to their movement repeatedly, and correctly, in the past from happening again.
Post Edited (Mon 07 Sep 15:44)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 7 Sep 16:03
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 7 Sept 12:01
I struggle with all this modern lingo. I understand `virtue signallers` are left-leaning and are always `clutching their pearls` but does this mean their right-leaning counterparts are `vice signallers` and what do they do with their hands?
You forgot "word salad".
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 7 Sep 16:39
Climate change road blockers were arrested because they were mostly mild mannered pensioners and tofu eating students. They were prepared to be arrested without resisting. A half dozen police officers were able to haul them into the back of a van without much fuss. While I certainly didn`t agree with their method of protest, fair play to them for willing to take the consequences on the chin. I doubt the balaclava wearing crowd on Saturday would have allowed themselves to be detained so easily. Hopefully next time the police grow a pair and enforce the law.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 7 Sep 21:47
Quote:
Wotsit, Mon 7 Sep 15:42
You`re right Dandy, Far Right is the wrong term for those Fascist idiots besmirching their grandparents` anti-fascist actions in the 1930s and 1940s and their parents` anti-fascist actions to run the NF off our streets in the 1970s and 1980s. Punching fascists is a great British tradition.
Bletchley is correct for once - they were wearing masks to stop what happened to their movement repeatedly, and correctly, in the past from happening again.
The problem is you can’t define what a fascist is.
COYP
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Tue 8 Sep 02:08
Quote:
NMCmassive, Mon 7 Sept 21:47
The problem is you can’t define what a fascist is.
Dr Britt helpfully provided a 14 point checklist. There`s some on here that tick more boxes than they would like
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 8 Sep 08:21
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sept 02:08
Quote:
NMCmassive, Mon 7 Sept 21:47
The problem is you can’t define what a fascist is.
Dr Britt helpfully provided a 14 point checklist. There`s some on here that tick more boxes than they would like
Dr Britt is a woke, leftard who spends their time virtue signalling and publishing word salad.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 8 Sep 08:30
Of course TOWK, I`m a far right bootlicker, i`ll bet the only far right bootlicker to be Monday`d for hitting a certain Tommy Ten Shekels square in the jaw.
Anyway back to the "left" will you be out protesting for the rights of "minor attracted people"?
Let`s not kid ourselves, the extreme of both sides are full of wrong uns.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 8 Sep 08:35
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sep 02:08
Quote:
NMCmassive, Mon 7 Sept 21:47
The problem is you can’t define what a fascist is.
Dr Britt helpfully provided a 14 point checklist. There`s some on here that tick more boxes than they would like
Without looking at Dr Britts checklist I’ll guarantee there’s at least a few points in there that’s just describing authoritarianism in general.
Nazis and communists have an obsession with control. They come at it from slightly different angles but the end goal is the same.
Authoritarian right will say it’s for law and order/public safety and the left will say it’s resource management but both will decide where you can go and who you can speak to.
My point being-even communists will tick boxes on that checklist
COYP
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Tue 8 Sep 09:05
I actually had a much longer response all typed out and then I realised, why bother when it never even happened.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Tue 8 Sep 09:25
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 8 Sept 08:35
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sep 02:08
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NMCmassive, Mon 7 Sept 21:47
The problem is you can’t define what a fascist is.
Dr Britt helpfully provided a 14 point checklist. There`s some on here that tick more boxes than they would like
Without looking at Dr Britts checklist I’ll guarantee there’s at least a few points in there that’s just describing authoritarianism in general.
Nazis and communists have an obsession with control. They come at it from slightly different angles but the end goal is the same.
Authoritarian right will say it’s for law and order/public safety and the left will say it’s resource management but both decide where you can go and who you can speak to.
My point being-even communists will tick boxes on that checklist
You specifically took to this forum to post that you can`t define what fascism is, yet when it`s pointed out that there is not only a dictionary definition, but also an widely recognised checklist, you would rather ignore it (whilst still arguing against the definition) instead of taking a minute to educate yourself? Very strange behaviour
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Tue 8 Sep 09:28
Quote:
jake89, Tue 8 Sept 08:21
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sept 02:08
Quote:
NMCmassive, Mon 7 Sept 21:47
The problem is you can’t define what a fascist is.
Dr Britt helpfully provided a 14 point checklist. There`s some on here that tick more boxes than they would like
Dr Britt is a woke, leftard who spends their time virtue signalling and publishing word salad.
Ah, fair enough. You`ve won me over. With your short, witty yet highly educated response, you`ve convinced me to change sides 👍
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Tue 8 Sep 09:29
These demonstrations would never be happening if our own government stopped the illegals entering the country.
600 arrive at Portsmouth and are taken onboard a RNLI ship and brought into Portsmouth. Tents, food and clothing await their arrival and busses to ship them to the nearest hotel where they will be housed getting £50 a week pocket money and everything free.....how any British citizen finds this acceptable is mental.
What about looking after our own that have problems?
Where are these illegals from, have they any criminal convictions and have they been part of their countries military?
If our government think they can sit back charging the British working people the taxes they put on us and expect us to not say anything then get more demos throughout the country going....its about time the British people stood up and were counted. Imagine the money we are paying out for these illegals to be here and what it could be spent on in our country?
If the lefts dont like it then they can go to Sudan/Iran and live there!
Surely enough is enough?
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Tue 8 Sep 09:44
Quote:
NMCmassive, Mon 7 Sept 21:47
Quote:
Wotsit, Mon 7 Sep 15:42
You`re right Dandy, Far Right is the wrong term for those Fascist idiots besmirching their grandparents` anti-fascist actions in the 1930s and 1940s and their parents` anti-fascist actions to run the NF off our streets in the 1970s and 1980s. Punching fascists is a great British tradition.
Bletchley is correct for once - they were wearing masks to stop what happened to their movement repeatedly, and correctly, in the past from happening again.
The problem is you can’t define what a fascist is.
Not comprehensive but people who call those who disagree with them anti-fascist would be a start.
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The universe is ruled by chance and indifference
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Tue 8 Sep 09:48
Imagine living in a world where being antifascist is a bad thing, an insult meant to cause upset.
How have we so quickly forgotten the lessons our grandparents taught us?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 8 Sep 10:14
Quote:
Hoolie, Tue 8 Sep 09:29
These demonstrations would never be happening if our own government stopped the illegals entering the country.
600 arrive at Portsmouth and are taken onboard a RNLI ship and brought into Portsmouth. Tents, food and clothing await their arrival and busses to ship them to the nearest hotel where they will be housed getting £50 a week pocket money and everything free.....how any British citizen finds this acceptable is mental.
What about looking after our own that have problems?
Where are these illegals from, have they any criminal convictions and have they been part of their countries military?
If our government think they can sit back charging the British working people the taxes they put on us and expect us to not say anything then get more demos throughout the country going....its about time the British people stood up and were counted. Imagine the money we are paying out for these illegals to be here and what it could be spent on in our country?
If the lefts dont like it then they can go to Sudan/Iran and live there!
Surely enough is enough?
This issue was caused by the right who voted for Brexit. Yet somehow they get off scot free because their main leader, Mr Farage, isn’t in charge.
Farage caused the Brexit vote - blame Cameron.
Braverman and Jenrick in charge during the height of small boats crisis - blame the Tories 🤔
Labour reduce number of illegal migrants and deport tens of thousands in 2 years in charge - not doing enough and all their fault.
Make it make sense……
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 8 Sep 10:56
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sept 09:28
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jake89, Tue 8 Sept 08:21
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sept 02:08
Quote:
NMCmassive, Mon 7 Sept 21:47
The problem is you can’t define what a fascist is.
Dr Britt helpfully provided a 14 point checklist. There`s some on here that tick more boxes than they would like
Dr Britt is a woke, leftard who spends their time virtue signalling and publishing word salad.
Ah, fair enough. You`ve won me over. With your short, witty yet highly educated response, you`ve convinced me to change sides 👍
Good. Want a balaclava and to burn down some buildings that someone on Facebook says are for illegals?
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Tue 8 Sep 11:05
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jake89, Tue 8 Sept 10:56
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Good. Want a balaclava and to burn down some buildings that someone on Facebook says are for illegals?
Gonna be honest, this is a big change for me, so it`s little steps to start with. I`ll probably quietly mutter a few racial slurs tonight, maybe shake my fist at the mosque, but I`ll build up to the big stuff soon
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 8 Sep 17:29
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BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sept 11:05
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jake89, Tue 8 Sept 10:56
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Good. Want a balaclava and to burn down some buildings that someone on Facebook says are for illegals?
Gonna be honest, this is a big change for me, so it`s little steps to start with. I`ll probably quietly mutter a few racial slurs tonight, maybe shake my fist at the mosque, but I`ll build up to the big stuff soon
I find putting gammon steaks in the halal section is a good gateway to bigger things.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 8 Sep 17:55
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sep 09:48
Imagine living in a world where being antifascist is a bad thing, an insult meant to cause upset.
How have we so quickly forgotten the lessons our grandparents taught us?
Antifa are self proclaimed communists.
COYP
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Tue 8 Sep 18:50
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 8 Sept 17:55
Antifa are self proclaimed communists.
And your point is, caller?
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 8 Sep 19:04
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sep 09:25
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 8 Sept 08:35
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sep 02:08
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NMCmassive, Mon 7 Sept 21:47
The problem is you can’t define what a fascist is.
Dr Britt helpfully provided a 14 point checklist. There`s some on here that tick more boxes than they would like
Without looking at Dr Britts checklist I’ll guarantee there’s at least a few points in there that’s just describing authoritarianism in general.
Nazis and communists have an obsession with control. They come at it from slightly different angles but the end goal is the same.
Authoritarian right will say it’s for law and order/public safety and the left will say it’s resource management but both decide where you can go and who you can speak to.
My point being-even communists will tick boxes on that checklist
You specifically took to this forum to post that you can`t define what fascism is, yet when it`s pointed out that there is not only a dictionary definition, but also an widely recognised checklist, you would rather ignore it (whilst still arguing against the definition) instead of taking a minute to educate yourself? Very strange behaviour
I don’t need educating on the subject. I’ll stand by everything I said.
If I’m wrong point to it…
The checklist btw, is just generic stuff and I was right, there is a bit about an unhealthy relationship or obsession with law and order in it. Again, just generalisations of authoritarianism. Which btw is one of the criticisms of the checklist.
The dictionary definition of fascism is much more helpful than that checklist.
COYP
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Tue 8 Sep 19:09
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sept 18:50
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 8 Sept 17:55
Antifa are self proclaimed communists.
And your point is, caller?
You mention Antifa. Nobody else did.
Throughout this thread I, and several others have referred to being antifascist. One is an organised group, and the other is a simple mindset.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 8 Sep 19:09
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sep 18:50
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 8 Sept 17:55
Antifa are self proclaimed communists.
And your point is, caller?
Estimates range from 20-50million killed by the communists in the Soviet Union alone.
COYP
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Tue 8 Sep 19:12
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 8 Sept 19:09
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sep 18:50
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NMCmassive, Tue 8 Sept 17:55
Antifa are self proclaimed communists.
And your point is, caller?
Estimates range from 20-50million killed by the communists in the Soviet Union alone.
A few beers, or post on here. Don`t try both, it`s not working well
Post Edited (Tue 08 Sep 19:13)
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 8 Sep 19:13
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sep 19:09
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sept 18:50
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 8 Sept 17:55
Antifa are self proclaimed communists.
And your point is, caller?
You mention Antifa. Nobody else did.
Throughout this thread I, and several others have referred to being antifascist. One is an organised group, and the other is a simple mindset.
What are you talking about?
COYP
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Tue 8 Sep 19:15
Only you mentioned antifa, and only you mentioned communism. Neither are relevant to the migrant issue
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 8 Sep 19:15
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sep 19:12
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 8 Sept 19:09
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sep 18:50
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NMCmassive, Tue 8 Sept 17:55
Antifa are self proclaimed communists.
And your point is, caller?
Estimates range from 20-50million killed by the communists in the Soviet Union alone.
A few beers, or post on here. Don`t try both, it`d not working well
You’ve no decent reply because there is no decent reply.
Communists and fascists are both just extremists.
COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 8 Sep 19:24
Quote:
parsfan, Tue 8 Sep 09:44
Quote:
NMCmassive, Mon 7 Sept 21:47
Quote:
Wotsit, Mon 7 Sep 15:42
You`re right Dandy, Far Right is the wrong term for those Fascist idiots besmirching their grandparents` anti-fascist actions in the 1930s and 1940s and their parents` anti-fascist actions to run the NF off our streets in the 1970s and 1980s. Punching fascists is a great British tradition.
Bletchley is correct for once - they were wearing masks to stop what happened to their movement repeatedly, and correctly, in the past from happening again.
The problem is you can’t define what a fascist is.
Not comprehensive but people who call those who disagree with them anti-fascist would be a start.
Also doesn’t make sense.
Unless you want to play children’s games, then it might work. But at that point Hitler and Stalin were both Nazis since they shared the same beliefs on some things.
COYP
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Tue 8 Sep 19:29
Quote:
BouncyPar, Tue 8 Sept 19:15
Only you mentioned antifa, and only you mentioned communism. Neither are relevant to the migrant issue
Bletchley and Dandy have both mentioned it.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Tue 8 Sep 20:25
So Dave 1885 stated we have deported thousand of illegals…where? They have no documentation so please tell? To their home countries where they have fled from?
Does no lefty’s want a peaceful life where they live in Britain?
So we deport thousands but why are we still letting them in? Doesn’t make sense.
All of us living and paying taxes in Britain need to stand up to the corrupt government now and say enough is enough…
I have no problem at all with migrants coming into Britain and getting jobs but these illegals are costing millions and have no intention of getting a job but a free life!
All mostly young men so what is going on? About time the people of Britain stood up and said that’s it…
Post Edited (Tue 08 Sep 20:27)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 8 Sep 21:02
Quote:
Hoolie, Tue 8 Sep 20:25
So Dave 1885 stated we have deported thousand of illegals…where? They have no documentation so please tell? To their home countries where they have fled from?
Does no lefty’s want a peaceful life where they live in Britain?
So we deport thousands but why are we still letting them in? Doesn’t make sense.
All of us living and paying taxes in Britain need to stand up to the corrupt government now and say enough is enough…
I have no problem at all with migrants coming into Britain and getting jobs but these illegals are costing millions and have no intention of getting a job but a free life!
All mostly young men so what is going on? About time the people of Britain stood up and said that’s it…
Its good to see you cherry picked one part, but then completely negated the real cause of the problem……
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Tue 8 Sep 22:14
There are two fundamental issues with illegal migration that I can see with respect to deportation.
1. By the 1980s-2000s, the enforcement problem increasingly involved overstaying, false documents, clandestine entry and unsuccessful asylum applicants remaining in Britain. Asylum applications rose dramatically during the conflicts and instability of the 1990s and early 2000s, reaching about 84,100 main applications in 2002, before falling to around 18,000 in 2010.
2. The Channel-small-boat phenomenon is much newer. Significant recorded crossings began in 2018, with 299 arrivals. They subsequently rose to roughly 46,000 in 2022. In the year ending June 2026 there were 33,374 small-boat arrivals, accounting for 88% of the 38,086 detected arrivals through illegal routes. Of the 85,891 people claiming asylum in the year ending June 2026, 40% had arrived by small boat, but 41% had previously held a visa or other lawful leave. In other words, the asylum system and the small-boats problem are not the same thing.
A person arriving illegally is not automatically a failed asylum seeker. Under current UK law, knowingly arriving without the required entry clearance can constitute an immigration offence. But an irregular entrant can nevertheless make an asylum claim, and being guilty of illegal entry does not by itself disqualify somebody from refugee protection. The Refugee Convention itself recognises circumstances in which refugees may have entered a country unlawfully.
Once a person`s asylum application has finally failed and they have no other right to remain, the expectation is that they leave. But an enforced removal requires several things to line up: a final legally executable decision; confirmed identity and nationality; a destination legally permitted to receive them; a passport or emergency travel document; the destination country`s cooperation; the ability to locate or detain the person; flights and escorts; and no outstanding protection, human-rights or other legally valid claim.
This is why the EHCR is not the only barrier. Some countries can take months or years to issue passports or travel documents. There is also a bottlekneck in processing asylum claims.
There is therefore a substantial gap between the popular explanation—"the courts/ECHR stop deportations"—and the engineering reality of the system.
G Wardrope
Post Edited (Tue 08 Sep 22:18)
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Wed 9 Sep 20:28
How many millions of taxpayers money is spent on the illegals when it could be spent on the British people and helping them and we just sit back and allow this?….its our money we work for spent on people illegally coming into the country.
If you have no passport/documents then bugger of back to where you came from!
We don’t have a clue if any illegals have convictions for anything in their previous country..does this not worry anyone??
Depending on their culture/religion these men can sleep with 12/13 year old girls as Allah stated in the Quran…disgusting and not tolerated here.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 9 Sep 21:35
Ask UKIP (now Reform) and everybody else who was pushing for Brexit.
They had all the answers before the vote, and thought it would be simple. That`s what generated most of this mess. Firing folk back to France used to be much easier. I suspect it was a lot easier for the French to deal with folk before they left as well, so it incentived them to be more proactive.
No doubt Farage will be looking for the easy way out now rather than more scrutiny on this point. Don`t worry, though, he`ll reappear just before the next General Election. Another part of his Hero`s Journey.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Wed 9 Sep 22:11
Tbh I am not speaking through our government nonesense now. Brexit or anything to do with it doesn’t matter…if we don’t stick up for our country now Britain will be gone in 12 months time…and well done all the wee lefty’s with 3rd world country immigrants coming in..
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 9 Sep 22:31
Brexit and the changes the Tories made literally do matter. It is like putting on 10 stones and wanting to get up the following day and be able to run a marathon having allowed a French guy steal you trainers and running gear.
You`re going to be disappointed.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 10 Sep 07:31
I`m astonished at how little people seem to understand about how damaging Brexit has been for the UK.
Small boats pre-Brexit were under 10k. In 2025 there were over 40k! This has reduced slightly to around 38k but it`s still significantly higher than pre-Brexit levels.
So much for all the "control ar bohdahs" brigade.
The only benefit for Brexit voters is that the price of an avocado has risen. That`ll show those woke, snowflake lefties!
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 11 Sep 21:19
Patriotic Platform leader Daniel Thompson, or Danny Thommo as racist things refer to him as, has a fund raiser that has currently raised over £60 thousand to buy his Mum a new house after he revealed her address by using it as his business address on companies house. The grift never ends with these characters does it?
Just for the avoidance of doubt Thompson was convicted of attempted kidnapping at knife point back in 2016 along with a couple of his associates when they assaulted a man who they had accused of stealing 10k worth of drugs from them. Good old fashioned British values eh!
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Fri 11 Sep 22:03
Quote:
jake89, Thu 10 Sep 07:31
I`m astonished at how little people seem to understand about how damaging Brexit has been for the UK.
Small boats pre-Brexit were under 10k. In 2025 there were over 40k! This has reduced slightly to around 38k but it`s still significantly higher than pre-Brexit levels.
So much for all the "control ar bohdahs" brigade.
The only benefit for Brexit voters is that the price of an avocado has risen. That`ll show those woke, snowflake lefties!
And I’m astonished by how much you midwits don’t realise how irrelevant Brexit is.
Covid? Ukraine? Iran? AI? Which of these were caused by Brexit? How’s the EU doing?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 11 Sep 22:27
Quote:
Tad Allagash, Fri 11 Sep 22:03
Quote:
jake89, Thu 10 Sep 07:31
I`m astonished at how little people seem to understand about how damaging Brexit has been for the UK.
Small boats pre-Brexit were under 10k. In 2025 there were over 40k! This has reduced slightly to around 38k but it`s still significantly higher than pre-Brexit levels.
So much for all the "control ar bohdahs" brigade.
The only benefit for Brexit voters is that the price of an avocado has risen. That`ll show those woke, snowflake lefties!
And I’m astonished by how much you midwits don’t realise how irrelevant Brexit is.
Covid? Ukraine? Iran? AI? Which of these were caused by Brexit? How’s the EU doing?
How did you turn a discussion about migrants into Covid? 🤔😂
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 11 Sep 22:28
Lol.
Have you read any of the comparisons that economic bodies have done? Are you more qualified, have access to better data and do you have a more accurate worldview than them?
The other stuff clearly has had an impact too, but that doesn`t therefore trend the impact of Brexit to zero or anywhere close to it.
Post Edited (Fri 11 Sep 22:31)
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Fri 11 Sep 22:53
Quote:
ipswichpar, Fri 11 Sep 22:28
Lol. Someone without a clue telling me I I`m a midwit also brings a small chuckle.
Have you read any of the comparisons that economic bodies have done? Are you more qualified, have access to better data and do you have a more accurate worldview than them?
The other stuff clearly has had an impact too, but that doesn`t therefore trend the impact of Brexit to zero or anywhere close to it.
Well I was replying to Jake. I hadn’t actually seen your post Tractor Boy.
‘The other stuff clearly has had an impact’.
Well that was my only point, so it seems we agree. But midwits focus on red herrings.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 11 Sep 23:06
You appear to misunderstand the meaning of the word "only" as you clearly were making the point that Brexit was irrelevant.
Perhaps you should have stated we partly agreed, and admitted you were wide of the mark on one specific point unless you can point me to data which confirms you`re right?
My position is backed up by many bodies wirh the Bank of England and NBER being two decent ones.
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Fri 11 Sep 23:12
Quote:
ipswichpar, Fri 11 Sep 23:06
You appear to misunderstand the meaning of the word "only" as you clearly were making the point that Brexit was irrelevant.
Perhaps you should have stated we partly agreed, and admitted you were wide of the mark on one specific point unless you can point me to data which confirms you`re right?
My position is backed up by many bodies wirh the Bank of England and NBER being two decent ones.
Bank of England? NBER?
Maybe I was being too generous with my ‘midwit’ assessment.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 12 Sep 06:21
No serious alternatives suggested..... just as I expected.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 12 Sep 10:35
Prove my point wrong, Tad. With respected sources, not some crackpot Reddit post.
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Sat 12 Sep 11:54
Quote:
jake89, Sat 12 Sep 10:35
Prove my point wrong, Tad. With respected sources, not some crackpot Reddit post.
Your point about the price of avocados? No, I’m prepared to take your word for that.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 12 Sep 15:13
That part was obvious sarcasm (though perhaps not).
Where are your sources that Brexit isn`t a contributing cause of how badly things are going for the UK right now? You can do Scotland only if you want as it`s affected Scotland more than other parts of the UK.
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Sat 12 Sep 19:32
Quote:
jake89, Sat 12 Sep 15:13
That part was obvious sarcasm (though perhaps not).
Where are your sources that Brexit isn`t a contributing cause of how badly things are going for the UK right now? You can do Scotland only if you want as it`s affected Scotland more than other parts of the UK.
Why is Scotland affected more? I can’t imagine that the Scots are eating more avocados.
Is your position that Brexit is so bad that it has led to an increase in the amount of people risking their lives to leave an EU country to get to non-EU Blighty? I’m struggling to follow the logic.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 12 Sep 21:12
You`re surely trolling, Gash, but.....
Brexit removed the previous returns agreement. So once they get here post-Brexit it`s very different than pre-Brexit.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Sat 12 Sep 21:12
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/19dar6tRmM/?mibextid=wwXIfr
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 12 Sep 21:47
The UK left the EU`s Dublin III system, under which EU states could in certain circumstances transfer asylum applicants to another participating state responsible for their claim. The UK`s departure therefore removed one mechanism available for transferring some asylum seekers back to EU states. That did not mean Britain previously had an automatic right to "send everyone back to France" — a common misconception — but losing Dublin made returns cooperation more difficult unless replaced by bilateral arrangements.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 12 Sep 22:51
Quote:
Indiapar1, Sat 12 Sept 21:47
The UK left the EU`s Dublin III system, under which EU states could in certain circumstances transfer asylum applicants to another participating state responsible for their claim. The UK`s departure therefore removed one mechanism available for transferring some asylum seekers back to EU states. That did not mean Britain previously had an automatic right to "send everyone back to France" — a common misconception — but losing Dublin made returns cooperation more difficult unless replaced by bilateral arrangements.
Arguing with an idiot is like wrestling with a pig. Don`t bother with, Tad unless you want covered in crap.
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Sun 13 Sep 18:03
Quote:
Indiapar1, Sat 12 Sep 21:47
The UK left the EU`s Dublin III system, under which EU states could in certain circumstances transfer asylum applicants to another participating state responsible for their claim. The UK`s departure therefore removed one mechanism available for transferring some asylum seekers back to EU states. That did not mean Britain previously had an automatic right to "send everyone back to France" — a common misconception — but losing Dublin made returns cooperation more difficult unless replaced by bilateral arrangements.
Couple of points:
1. The U.K. was a net RECIPIENT of transfers under the Dublin agreements.
The receiving country had to agree to take the transfers - no automatic sending back - and in the vast majority of cases, other EU countries refused to accept our transfer requests.
2. The scale was in the low hundreds per year, and was mainly used for bringing family members together.
Dublin Agreements (1,2&3) were never going to allow repatriation of ‘illegals’ and whilst it is true that we no longer have that facility, in practice, the effect was less than negligible to the numbers.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Sun 13 Sep 21:19
So we have a rule to allow illegal immigrants into Britain with no passports etc?
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sun 13 Sep 21:59
Quote:
Hoolie, Sun 13 Sept 21:19
So we have a rule to allow illegal immigrants into Britain with no passports etc?
My understanding is that entering the country illegally is not a bar to asylum. There would be a process to follow, and if at the end of that process the asylum claim fails, the country of return needs to agree they can be returned. If they do not have a passport, one would need to be issued. This could take months or even years for some countries. This is why it is not so straightforward and a more complex problem to solve.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 14 Sep 09:02
Piddington showing how it`s done eh, call for more immigrants, actually get them, tears flow, typical lefties.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 24 Sep 18:53
One of the thugs, as the judge described him, who was involved in violent protests in Portsmouth at the start of the month has been sentenced to two years. No doubt he gets early release though so will be back out in a few months.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Thu 24 Sep 20:48
Ohh it’s ok now as Andy is giving 5 million to Somalia from Britain..WTF is going on? And us working are doing this through our tax and it’s going to go up….they can fek right off…no doubt Buffy the Green Party next leader will be along to put his/her/it word in but come on enough is enough?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 24 Sep 21:27
Quote:
Hoolie, Thu 24 Sept 20:48
Ohh it’s ok now as Andy is giving 5 million to Somalia from Britain..WTF is going on? And us working are doing this through our tax and it’s going to go up….they can fek right off…no doubt Buffy the Green Party next leader will be along to put his/her/it word in but come on enough is enough?
What is the £5m for? If it`s to build stability that reduces the number of Somalian migrants then surely that`s a positive thing?
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 24 Sep 21:44
Quote:
Hoolie, Thu 24 Sep 20:48
Ohh it’s ok now as Andy is giving 5 million to Somalia from Britain..WTF is going on? And us working are doing this through our tax and it’s going to go up….they can fek right off…no doubt Buffy the Green Party next leader will be along to put his/her/it word in but come on enough is enough?
WTF are you bringing me into this thread for? Keep me out of your mud slinging.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 25 Sep 09:36
Wild to think that giving Somalia £5million will build stability in a county with population of 20 million thats also one of the most corrupt countries in the world 😂
It’s pretty obvious to me that £5million will line one or a very few people’s pockets.
Burnham will know it to. Thats just £5million to keep a group or an individual happy
COYP
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 25 Sep 09:46
There`s a lot less fuss about this £5m than Farage`s!
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 25 Sep 09:51
Politicians point scoring 🤷🏻♂️ they’re all at it. Then they blame each other.
Look left and right, it’s hard to see an honest character.
Steelers wheels in my head as I write that.
COYP
Post Edited (Fri 25 Sep 09:51)
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 25 Sep 10:33
Quote:
NMCmassive, Fri 25 Sept 09:51
Politicians point scoring 🤷🏻♂️ they’re all at it. Then they blame each other.
Look left and right, it’s hard to see an honest character.
Steelers wheels in my head as I write that.
100%.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 25 Sep 11:05
Please Ipswich, whenever referring to Farage`s £5m please give it the full title. "The £5m gifted to Farage by a foreign based crypto billionaire".
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 25 Sep 11:06
Woman gang raped on migrant dinghy before baby allegedly thrown over the side.
Enrichment.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 25 Sep 20:34
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Fri 25 Sept 11:06
Woman gang raped on migrant dinghy before baby allegedly thrown over the side.
Enrichment.
Allegedly? Made up then? Can`t wait to see you treated like the immigrant you are when you arrive there
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 25 Sep 21:50
Quote:
red-star-par, Fri 25 Sept 20:34
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Fri 25 Sept 11:06
Woman gang raped on migrant dinghy before baby allegedly thrown over the side.
Enrichment.
Allegedly? Made up then? Can`t wait to see you treated like the immigrant you are when you arrive there
Made up, plenty footage rasper.
Arrive where? I`m going to Lithuania via Portugal and Denmark, legally 🤣🤣
Sad little crunch.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 25 Sep 22:04
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Fri 25 Sep 21:50
Quote:
red-star-par, Fri 25 Sept 20:34
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Fri 25 Sept 11:06
Woman gang raped on migrant dinghy before baby allegedly thrown over the side.
Enrichment.
Allegedly? Made up then? Can`t wait to see you treated like the immigrant you are when you arrive there
Made up, plenty footage rasper.
Arrive where? I`m going to Lithuania via Portugal and Denmark, legally 🤣🤣
Sad little crunch.
Who’s watching footage of gang rape and throwing kids off a dinghy? 🤔
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 25 Sep 23:04
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Dave_1885, Fri 25 Sep 22:04
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 25 Sep 21:50
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red-star-par, Fri 25 Sept 20:34
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 25 Sept 11:06
Woman gang raped on migrant dinghy before baby allegedly thrown over the side.
Enrichment.
Allegedly? Made up then? Can`t wait to see you treated like the immigrant you are when you arrive there
Made up, plenty footage rasper.
Arrive where? I`m going to Lithuania via Portugal and Denmark, legally 🤣🤣
Sad little crunch.
Who’s watching footage of gang rape and throwing kids off a dinghy? 🤔
I think a poorly aimed joke to try win an argument online is as useful as a poke in the eye.
It really doesn’t stop the reality that’s being pointed out from happening.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 25 Sep 23:17
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NMCmassive, Fri 25 Sep 23:04
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Dave_1885, Fri 25 Sep 22:04
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 25 Sep 21:50
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red-star-par, Fri 25 Sept 20:34
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 25 Sept 11:06
Woman gang raped on migrant dinghy before baby allegedly thrown over the side.
Enrichment.
Allegedly? Made up then? Can`t wait to see you treated like the immigrant you are when you arrive there
Made up, plenty footage rasper.
Arrive where? I`m going to Lithuania via Portugal and Denmark, legally 🤣🤣
Sad little crunch.
Who’s watching footage of gang rape and throwing kids off a dinghy? 🤔
I think a poorly aimed joke to try win an argument online is as useful as a poke in the eye.
It really doesn’t stop the reality that’s being pointed out from happening.
Who made a joke? Im genuinely asking who and where is sharing this kind of content if its out there…
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 26 Sep 01:22
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Dave_1885, Fri 25 Sep 23:17
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NMCmassive, Fri 25 Sep 23:04
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Dave_1885, Fri 25 Sep 22:04
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 25 Sep 21:50
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red-star-par, Fri 25 Sept 20:34
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 25 Sept 11:06
Woman gang raped on migrant dinghy before baby allegedly thrown over the side.
Enrichment.
Allegedly? Made up then? Can`t wait to see you treated like the immigrant you are when you arrive there
Made up, plenty footage rasper.
Arrive where? I`m going to Lithuania via Portugal and Denmark, legally 🤣🤣
Sad little crunch.
Who’s watching footage of gang rape and throwing kids off a dinghy? 🤔
I think a poorly aimed joke to try win an argument online is as useful as a poke in the eye.
It really doesn’t stop the reality that’s being pointed out from happening.
Who made a joke? Im genuinely asking who and where is sharing this kind of content if its out there…
You wrote it facetiously and tbh it’s a kn08 end type of comment.
I’ve said my piece to Dandy in the past but I don’t feel the need to insinuate something about someone because I don’t share the same political views as them.
It certainly doesn’t help there’s a good chance there’s footage of what he’s talking about.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 26 Sep 06:24
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Dave_1885, Fri 25 Sept 23:17
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NMCmassive, Fri 25 Sep 23:04
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Dave_1885, Fri 25 Sep 22:04
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 25 Sep 21:50
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red-star-par, Fri 25 Sept 20:34
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 25 Sept 11:06
Woman gang raped on migrant dinghy before baby allegedly thrown over the side.
Enrichment.
Allegedly? Made up then? Can`t wait to see you treated like the immigrant you are when you arrive there
Made up, plenty footage rasper.
Arrive where? I`m going to Lithuania via Portugal and Denmark, legally 🤣🤣
Sad little crunch.
Who’s watching footage of gang rape and throwing kids off a dinghy? 🤔
I think a poorly aimed joke to try win an argument online is as useful as a poke in the eye.
It really doesn’t stop the reality that’s being pointed out from happening.
Who made a joke? Im genuinely asking who and where is sharing this kind of content if its out there…
Funny guy, shall we talk about the loony left actually being the ones campaigning for the rights of "minor attracted people"?
Everyone can throw stones.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 26 Sep 07:57
You`d think this vile and horrific crime would be making, not just national news, but international news. Then again it`s only allegedly so maybe, despite there (allegedly) being footage of this sickening act, the likes of the Daily Mail and GB News are waiting till the police finish their investigation. I mean all the people who are in this footage should be identifiable and they are surely now in the system having their asylum claims processed and should be fairly easy to locate.
I`ll give it till Monday. If it`s not hit the headlines by then I`d say it`s a pretty safe bet to say you`ve been duped.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 26 Sep 09:08
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The One Who Knocks, Sat 26 Sept 07:57
You`d think this vile and horrific crime would be making, not just national news, but international news. Then again it`s only allegedly so maybe, despite there (allegedly) being footage of this sickening act, the likes of the Daily Mail and GB News are waiting till the police finish their investigation. I mean all the people who are in this footage should be identifiable and they are surely now in the system having their asylum claims processed and should be fairly easy to locate.
I`ll give it till Monday. If it`s not hit the headlines by then I`d say it`s a pretty safe bet to say you`ve been duped.
I actually got the story from national news outlets, but keep signalling that virtue hard, someone will love you for it.
Must be both difficult and tedious being you.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 26 Sep 09:24
You keep trotting out the same lines and same lies. One link, just one and this debate can move forward.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 26 Sep 09:35
They clearly can`t mean it as an insult TOWK as they do nothing but virtue signal. I actually think they quite like you.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 26 Sep 09:42
Not sure about `like` Ipswich. Perhaps grudgingly admire which they hide beneath a veneer of low brow passive aggressive comments.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Sat 26 Sep 10:19
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The One Who Knocks, Sat 26 Sep 09:24
You keep trotting out the same lines and same lies. One link, just one and this debate can move forward.
I usually put the post into AI ask it to validate and provide links. On this statement it concludes below but as is standard in this culture war, horrendous events are manipulated and exaggerated to push an agenda. This is why credibility is in question as they don’t need to exaggerate or conflate 2 stories (one being hearsay) as the facts are bad enough;
the core claim is based on real events, but the forum wording combines two separate allegations and makes the connection between them sound more certain than the evidence currently supports.
I searched current Spanish and UK reporting because this is a very recent story.
What definitely happened
On 16 September 2026, a migrant boat travelling towards Lanzarote was rescued after getting into serious difficulty offshore. Three men, aged 21, 25 and 30, were subsequently arrested after a woman told Spanish authorities that she had been sexually assaulted during the crossing. Spanish police said another passenger subsequently came forward and said he had witnessed the assault.
The three men were initially placed in pre-trial detention. However, there has already been an important development that some UK reports haven’t reflected: on 25 September, a Lanzarote court released all three because prosecutors questioned whether Spanish courts had jurisdiction, since the alleged assault occurred in international waters. The investigation itself has not been closed.
So “woman gang raped on migrant dinghy” is not fabricated. More precisely, it is an allegation of a multiple sexual assault, supported by the woman’s complaint and a passenger who said he witnessed it; it has not been established by a criminal conviction.
And the baby?
This is where the forum post needs much more qualification.
On 24 September, Enrique Espinosa, head of Lanzarote’s Emergency and Security Consortium, gave an interview to local radio. He said that emergency workers had been told about an incident in which a two-year-old boy was allegedly thrown into the sea from a migrant boat while travelling with his mother because he was crying.
That account was subsequently reported by Spanish outlets and then by UK media.
However, I cannot find independent confirmation that this actually happened. In particular, the available reporting attributes the story to Espinosa’s account of what emergency personnel had been told; it isn’t presented as an independently established fact by Spanish police or a court.
The important distinction
The claim:
“Woman gang raped on migrant dinghy before baby allegedly thrown over the side.”
is therefore misleading in its presentation
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 26 Sep 10:24
Great work P, thanks.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 26 Sep 12:10
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The One Who Knocks, Sat 26 Sept 09:24
You keep trotting out the same lines and same lies. One link, just one and this debate can move forward.
Crimewatch, various newspapers, all lying of course, look yourself, you know how it works on here, post a link, you`d only rubbish the link.
Ah, so it's ok only 3 men were involved, TOWK, you are one sick puppy, seriously unwell.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 26 Sep 12:41
Are there any unoccupied island on the planet that people who don`t like to follow the law of the land could go? That island could be the "do as you please" island for all the people who think rules don`t apply. It would be their paradise, surely?
Or maybe we need a Douglas Adams "Ark B" approach?
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 26 Sep 13:13
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jake89, Sat 26 Sep 12:41
Are there any unoccupied island on the planet that people who don`t like to follow the law of the land could go? That island could be the "do as you please" island for all the people who think rules don`t apply. It would be their paradise, surely?
Or maybe we need a Douglas Adams "Ark B" approach?
It would cheaper and more humane to drop them off somewhere in Africa…
COYP
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 26 Sep 14:04
You`re quite a piece of work Dandy. Since you`ve now resorted to personal insults, like others of your ilk, I`ll be disengaging from future interactions with you. If you ever do emigrate I wish you well though.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 26 Sep 19:23
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NMCmassive, Sat 26 Sept 13:13
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jake89, Sat 26 Sep 12:41
Are there any unoccupied island on the planet that people who don`t like to follow the law of the land could go? That island could be the "do as you please" island for all the people who think rules don`t apply. It would be their paradise, surely?
Or maybe we need a Douglas Adams "Ark B" approach?
It would cheaper and more humane to drop them off somewhere in Africa…
Too hot for the Rangers supporters.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 27 Sep 00:32
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jake89, Sat 26 Sep 19:23
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NMCmassive, Sat 26 Sept 13:13
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jake89, Sat 26 Sep 12:41
Are there any unoccupied island on the planet that people who don`t like to follow the law of the land could go? That island could be the "do as you please" island for all the people who think rules don`t apply. It would be their paradise, surely?
Or maybe we need a Douglas Adams "Ark B" approach?
It would cheaper and more humane to drop them off somewhere in Africa…
Too hot for the Rangers supporters.
Was that funny in your head?
COYP
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 27 Sep 09:17
Why do you think it was a joke?
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 27 Sep 13:14
If you were being serious you need to have a word with yourself. Tinchy Stryder is a Rangers fan and he’s African so…
What were you trying to say?
COYP
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 27 Sep 19:01
That Rangers fans spend a lot of time vandalising much of central Scotland.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 27 Sep 19:55
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jake89, Sun 27 Sep 19:01
That Rangers fans spend a lot of time vandalising much of central Scotland.
So do Celtic fans
And Partick fans
I’m pretty certain someone that’s a fan of every club has vandalised something
COYP
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Sun 27 Sep 20:03
A barracks in England attacked by 4 individuals with explosives in the back of 4 vans..
This is just the start but I’m sure all you lefty idiots will be ok wit it!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 27 Sep 22:44
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NMCmassive, Sun 27 Sept 19:55
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jake89, Sun 27 Sep 19:01
That Rangers fans spend a lot of time vandalising much of central Scotland.
So do Celtic fans
And Partick fans
I’m pretty certain someone that’s a fan of every club has vandalised something
Yep, but mainly Rangers.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 27 Sep 22:46
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Hoolie, Sun 27 Sept 20:03
A barracks in England attacked by 4 individuals with explosives in the back of 4 vans..
This is just the start but I’m sure all you lefty idiots will be ok wit it!
I heard it was because they heard the RAF had bombed an avocado plantation. Bloody woke, snowflake libtards.
Maybe be more concerned that there was an attack than what "lefty idiots" think!
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 28 Sep 07:58
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Hoolie, Sun 27 Sept 20:03
A barracks in England attacked by 4 individuals with explosives in the back of 4 vans..
This is just the start but I’m sure all you lefty idiots will be ok wit it!
Now now don`t speculate on the ethnicity of the guys clearly pictured, in saying that, an American base, Mossad maybe?
I mean the USA and Israel only really have each other.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 28 Sep 08:38
Wouldn’t say the picture is clear…..but it wouldn’t be a surprise if it is Iranian migrants.
Its also not surprising that Iranians are attempting to sabotage/attack American “bases” on foreign soil either. They have been doing that in the Middle East in retaliation for American attacks.
Could also be a false flag these days.
Problem with the internet these days is folk will speculate and not just let the police/courts do their jobs.
Post Edited (Mon 28 Sep 08:38)
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Mon 28 Sep 11:58
Sadly these plots are becoming more commonplace. There were well documented plots reported in the press that led to prosecutions at Shrivenham in 2025, Victoria Barracks in 2024, RAF Menwith Hill in 2023, RAF Lakenheath and Mildenhall in 2015, Parachute Regiment TA centre at White City in 2014.
The DG of MI5 said in his speech in 2025;
"Since the start of 2020, MI5 and the police have disrupted 19 late-stage attack plots. And we’ve intervened in many hundreds of developing threats". On state threats he went on to say "My teams are routinely uncovering attempts by state actors to commission surveillance, sabotage, arson or physical violence, right here in the UK. We are dealing with these threats every day. We wish we weren’t. But we’re rising to the challenge."
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 28 Sep 12:40
5 UK Nationals from London, aged early to mid 20’s arrested yesterday.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 28 Sep 16:33
All released on bail, very strange. Would suggest this isn`t what it perhaps was first being reported as?
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 28 Sep 17:28
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The One Who Knocks, Mon 28 Sep 16:33
All released on bail, very strange. Would suggest this isn`t what it perhaps was first being reported as?
It looks that way. Police also said the first they had heard of this was a phone call from a local farmer. No intelligence suggests that the US were “looking at them for weeks” in advance.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 28 Sep 18:14
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The One Who Knocks, Mon 28 Sept 16:33
All released on bail, very strange. Would suggest this isn`t what it perhaps was first being reported as?
It`s because they are Mossad agents TOWK. Get away with anything that lot.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 28 Sep 18:49
The police really need to be more transparent here. First they were detained under the explosives act and arrested on suspicion of preparing a terrorism act and next they are released on bail.
Folk were denied bale for hurty words
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 28 Sep 19:47
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NMCmassive, Mon 28 Sep 18:49
The police really need to be more transparent here. First they were detained under the explosives act and arrested on suspicion of preparing a terrorism act and next they are released on bail.
Folk were denied bale for hurty words
Why should they be more transparent? 🤔 being more transparent could jeopardise any case they are now building, if theres even a case to answer. Theres clearly something not correct with their initial assessment if they have been released on bail.
The “hurty words” gang openly and blatantly posted or said their things on socials or on camera. Easier to deny bail to someone thats obviously committed a crime.
Not agreeing with all bailed prisoners/non bailed ones either btw, before I get called a wokey leftist 😂
Post Edited (Mon 28 Sep 19:47)
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 28 Sep 20:05
I do struggle with these cases when folk are arrested on such potentially significant charges but then let free so quickly. Strange place to be with those vans at that time of day.
I mean, if folk are up for causing a terrorist attack (in general, not these specific guys), there are clearly ways where they can cause real problems without huge planning and weaponry. Something that bail would allow them to do so.
It does seem a little bit different to bailed for ABH after a scrap on a night out.
Of course, it might be a handy way to help them implicate themselves while being watched.
What`s on their bail terms? Do not go near a military base, and don`t carry around some dodgy looking stuff that needs Johnny 5 to investigate it?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 28 Sep 20:21
Life immitates art. Click here. Surprised the BBC haven`t deleted this yet.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 28 Sep 21:13
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Dave_1885, Mon 28 Sep 19:47
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NMCmassive, Mon 28 Sep 18:49
The police really need to be more transparent here. First they were detained under the explosives act and arrested on suspicion of preparing a terrorism act and next they are released on bail.
Folk were denied bale for hurty words
Why should they be more transparent? 🤔 being more transparent could jeopardise any case they are now building, if theres even a case to answer. Theres clearly something not correct with their initial assessment if they have been released on bail.
The “hurty words” gang openly and blatantly posted or said their things on socials or on camera. Easier to deny bail to someone thats obviously committed a crime.
Not agreeing with all bailed prisoners/non bailed ones either btw, before I get called a wokey leftist 😂
You’ve repeated wokey leftist talking points then said you’re not a wokey leftist 🤷🏻♂️
And the bail/non bail bit isn’t the talking point. You should look up the free speech union.
And the transparency bit would stop anyone having the talking point of they got arrested for shouting at a police officer and denied bail while they got arrested for terrorism charges and were given bail within 24 hours.
If it’s something as simple as trying to steal diesel, saying that publicly won’t exactly harm an ongoing investigation
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Mon 28 Sep 21:35
Migrant who has been here 10 year/illegal of a boat it doesn’t matter…put them in jail. Again the people of Britain are not being told facts of what happened as the government knows there will be a backlash..
Out on bail is a laugh BUT the police can use them to get to their bosses…we will see.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Mon 28 Sep 21:42
You can all laugh at me now but see in 6 months time when there will be bombings on local communities etc.. It’s going to happen but hey ho!
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 29 Sep 06:38
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 28 Sept 12:40
5 UK Nationals from London, aged early to mid 20’s arrested yesterday.
Uk nationals🤣
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 29 Sep 12:06
Maybe out fly tipping?🤔🤣🤣🤣
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Tue 29 Sep 19:00
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Hoolie, Mon 28 Sept 21:42
You can all laugh at me now but see in 6 months time when there will be bombings on local communities etc.. It’s going to happen but hey ho!
I`ve heard the same line trotted out every 6 months for the last 10 years tbh.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Tue 29 Sep 19:51
This is just the start and we will see!
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Tue 29 Sep 21:15
Civil war is coming if Britain keeps going…you can laugh all you want but there is tension and it’s brewing….
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 29 Sep 21:32
2 “Patriots” drinking in a park with kids filmed themselves demanding a man of African/American skin colour leave the park bench he was sat on for no reason at all in Blackpool…….imagine how thick you must be to film this and put it online 🤦🏻♂️
Hopefully they don’t give these patriots weapons when they sign up to defend the country, will end up with more friendly fire deaths than in a war with the USA
Post Edited (Tue 29 Sep 21:33)
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Tue 29 Sep 22:07
Dave..trust me there is going to be civil unrest in this country.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 29 Sep 22:59
Define "civil unrest".
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 30 Sep 08:28
It`s now "far right" to drink a pint and have a black Labrador 🤣
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Wed 30 Sep 10:00
My question to her would be
"What specifically makes this vision far right—what beliefs, policies or exclusions are you referring to?”
It infers guilt by association, its group signalling, and moral framing. I`ll ask the bloke today when I walk the dog. He has a black lab. I`ll ask him if he`s far right.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 30 Sep 11:20
Quote:
Indiapar1, Wed 30 Sept 10:00
My question to her would be
"What specifically makes this vision far right—what beliefs, policies or exclusions are you referring to?”
It infers guilt by association, its group signalling, and moral framing. I`ll ask the bloke today when I walk the dog. He has a black lab. I`ll ask him if he`s far right.
The self loathing and virtue signalling from the "caring left" is hilarious, devouring themselves in hypocrisy.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Wed 30 Sep 13:57
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Dandy Warhol, Wed 30 Sept 11:20
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Indiapar1, Wed 30 Sept 10:00
My question to her would be
"What specifically makes this vision far right—what beliefs, policies or exclusions are you referring to?”
It infers guilt by association, its group signalling, and moral framing. I`ll ask the bloke today when I walk the dog. He has a black lab. I`ll ask him if he`s far right.
The self loathing and virtue signalling from the "caring left" is hilarious, devouring themselves in hypocrisy.
Its a bit like saying the phrase “No decent person could support this.” It places psychological pressure on the listener. It puts their character at stake alongside the merits of any proposal preceeding this statement. Questioning the argument risks looking as though you are uncaring. Politicians use this emotive language alot. The sheer hypocricy of Burnham thanking Starmer and Reeves after plotting their downfall is incredible. They say if you want a friend in politics get a dog.....a black labrador perhaps
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 30 Sep 14:22
Rome 44 BC is live and well. I suspect Starmer had to put a few quid in the swear box yesterday.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 30 Sep 18:42
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Wed 30 Sep 08:28
It`s now "far right" to drink a pint and have a black Labrador 🤣
Anyone that thinks that needs put in am asylum 😂
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 1 Oct 06:46
Quote:
Dave_1885, Wed 30 Sept 18:42
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Wed 30 Sep 08:28
It`s now "far right" to drink a pint and have a black Labrador 🤣
Anyone that thinks that needs put in am asylum 😂
Labour minister/mp,whatever pushing it on tv.
I`ve said it before, call me what you like, the labels ate so diluted they`re meaningless now
Basically anything white that hasn`t got a septum ring and coloured hair is a fascist/far right .
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 1 Oct 15:51
Any lefties want to explain how having a pint and a labrador in rural UK is "Far Right"?
Or is it just a little too embarrassing for you?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 1 Oct 16:48
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Thu 1 Oct 15:51
Any lefties want to explain how having a pint and a labrador in rural UK is "Far Right"?
Or is it just a little too embarrassing for you?
A lab? What colour. It better have been black or brown or you`re a racist.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Thu 1 Oct 17:13
I believe it was a young golden lab, but it was wearing a black hoodie and sweats.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 1 Oct 18:38
Quote:
ipswichpar, Thu 1 Oct 17:13
I believe it was a young golden lab, but it was wearing a black hoodie and sweats.
Cultural appropriation? Or did it have a wee man bag on too?
Genuinely that MP needs to be sat down and warmed that bringing dogs into a row over far right is just delusional 😂
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Thu 1 Oct 19:16
Agreed. I hate dog whistle politics.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Thu 1 Oct 19:27
I think we need to take a paws in this debate
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Thu 1 Oct 21:08
I think we need to tell all you wet wipe lefties to have a break and do your nails etc!
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 3 Oct 10:46
Where`s our septum ring gang?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 3 Oct 10:52
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Sat 3 Oct 10:46
Where`s our septum ring gang?
🤣🤣🤣
Probably waiting at the hairdressers for more blue hair dye
COYP
Post Edited (Sat 03 Oct 10:52)
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 3 Oct 11:12
On a couple of threads it’s just descending into internet rubbish. Usual stereotypes and mud slinging. Helps no one, adds nothing.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 3 Oct 11:40
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sat 3 Oct 11:12
On a couple of threads it’s just descending into internet rubbish. Usual stereotypes and mud slinging. Helps no one, adds nothing.
I don`t normally consort with wrong uns but what was it you called me?
You dish it out but then again, you on the left love a bit of hypocrisy.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 3 Oct 12:59
One of men arrested for the RAF Fairford incident is an Iranian-British dual citizen, released on bail. I think this was the “ring leader” that was arrested a few days after on suspicion of planning the attack/incident.
Not sure why he has been released if the planner of an attempted terror attack 🤔
Post Edited (Sat 03 Oct 13:53)
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 3 Oct 13:51
No idea what you`re talking about DW. Enjoy your afternoon.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 3 Oct 20:20
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sat 3 Oct 11:12
On a couple of threads it’s just descending into internet rubbish. Usual stereotypes and mud slinging. Helps no one, adds nothing.
TWOK
COYP
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 3 Oct 23:16
On a couple of threads it’s just descending into internet rubbish. Usual stereotypes and mud slinging. Helps no one, adds nothing.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 4 Oct 11:15
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sat 3 Oct 23:16
On a couple of threads it’s just descending into internet rubbish. Usual stereotypes and mud slinging. Helps no one, adds nothing.
You’re proving my point for me.
Just chill man, you’ll be fine.
COYP
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 4 Oct 13:15
They are your words NCM, not mine. It`s all good though so enjoy your Sunday.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 4 Oct 13:38
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sun 4 Oct 13:15
They are your words NCM, not mine. It`s all good though so enjoy your Sunday.
Yeah and while you act childish by purposefully writing people’s names wrong or trying to twist someone words to suite yourself, you’ll continue to prove me right.
COYP
Post Edited (Sun 04 Oct 13:38)
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 4 Oct 14:08
Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 3 Oct 20:20
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sat 3 Oct 11:12
On a couple of threads it’s just descending into internet rubbish. Usual stereotypes and mud slinging. Helps no one, adds nothing.
TWOK
COYP
^^^^^ That was you who wrote that yeah? Childishly misspelling names you say?
Post Edited (Sun 04 Oct 14:10)
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 4 Oct 18:04
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sun 4 Oct 14:08
Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 3 Oct 20:20
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sat 3 Oct 11:12
On a couple of threads it’s just descending into internet rubbish. Usual stereotypes and mud slinging. Helps no one, adds nothing.
TWOK
COYP
^^^^^ That was you who wrote that yeah? Childishly misspelling names you say?
Only replied to the level you were working at
I don’t know why you are so irate when you started it 😂
Seriously chill out, you’ll be fine
COYP
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 4 Oct 18:36
Started what? Exposing your hypocrisy? I`m very relaxed and not at all irate, I mean, why would anyone be irate about anything on here? Should I maybe insert a laughing emoji to prove how not irate I am?
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 5 Oct 17:30
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sun 4 Oct 18:36
Started what? Exposing your hypocrisy? I`m very relaxed and not at all irate, I mean, why would anyone be irate about anything on here? Should I maybe insert a laughing emoji to prove how not irate I am?
If I’ve got a different opinion than you and feel like saying it, I’m going to say it. I really don’t care how many times you change my name, try and twist words or whatever you want to do.
I do find it quite humerus that I write TWOK probably twice and you start greeting about it, saying you’ll never talk to me again etc etc
But here you are… 🤷🏻♂️
COYP
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 5 Oct 19:24
I do find it quite humorous that you whined about me spelling your name NCM but admitted that you`ve indulged in such behaviour for a while now. Behaviour that you said only yesterday was childish. I will concede I have let myself down by engaging with you at such low brow levels and will endeavour to do better in the future.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 5 Oct 20:49
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Mon 5 Oct 19:24
I do find it quite humorous that you whined about me spelling your name NCM but admitted that you`ve indulged in such behaviour for a while now. Behaviour that you said only yesterday was childish. I will concede I have let myself down by engaging with you at such low brow levels and will endeavour to do better in the future.
I think you just need to relax. I don’t know why you get so worked up about it.
COYP
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 5 Oct 21:31
On a couple of threads it’s just descending into internet rubbish. Usual stereotypes and mud slinging. Helps no one, adds nothing.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 6 Oct 06:36
That`s TOWK`s only thing, twist what you say or cast aspersions.
Mahmood now casually stating that most women who arrive on a dinghy have been raped, some men too, so they know they`re letting rapists in, the rapists TOWK says don`t exist.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Tue 6 Oct 09:55
Stop putting words in my mouth now Dandy. I would say that women and men being raped certainly deserve asylum.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Tue 6 Oct 16:18
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Tue 6 Oct 09:55
Stop putting words in my mouth now Dandy. I would say that women and men being raped certainly deserve asylum.
And if it’s other asylum seekers that are doing it?
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Tue 6 Oct 16:49
Indeed Lux and there are no easy solutions to be found.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 6 Oct 18:32
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Tue 6 Oct 16:49
Indeed Lux and there are no easy solutions to be found.
Yes there is.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 6 Oct 20:03
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 6 Oct 18:32
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Tue 6 Oct 16:49
Indeed Lux and there are no easy solutions to be found.
Yes there is.
Blow the boats out the water? 🤔😂 cause you cant send them back to France when they land due to Brexit……
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Tue 6 Oct 22:33
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 6 Oct 20:03
Blow the boats out the water? 🤔😂 cause you cant send them back to France when they land due to Brexit……
You were not able to ‘send them back to France’ before Brexit either.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Wed 7 Oct 07:58
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 6 Oct 20:03
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 6 Oct 18:32
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Tue 6 Oct 16:49
Indeed Lux and there are no easy solutions to be found.
Yes there is.
Blow the boats out the water? 🤔😂 cause you cant send them back to France when they land due to Brexit……
Why is killing people your first thought?
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 7 Oct 18:44
Quote:
NMCmassive, Wed 7 Oct 07:58
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 6 Oct 20:03
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 6 Oct 18:32
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Tue 6 Oct 16:49
Indeed Lux and there are no easy solutions to be found.
Yes there is.
Blow the boats out the water? 🤔😂 cause you cant send them back to France when they land due to Brexit……
Why is killing people your first thought?
Why else would folk want to send the navy into the channel? Do you think the boats will be turned around quietly by those on board?
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 8 Oct 11:26
Quote:
Dave_1885, Wed 7 Oct 18:44
Quote:
NMCmassive, Wed 7 Oct 07:58
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 6 Oct 20:03
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 6 Oct 18:32
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Tue 6 Oct 16:49
Indeed Lux and there are no easy solutions to be found.
Yes there is.
Blow the boats out the water? 🤔😂 cause you cant send them back to France when they land due to Brexit……
Why is killing people your first thought?
Why else would folk want to send the navy into the channel? Do you think the boats will be turned around quietly by those on board?
I think you’re projecting your own thoughts onto me.
Wouldn’t it be easier to change a couple of policies and to deport folk when they can’t justify their place here?
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 8 Oct 20:40
Quote:
NMCmassive, Thu 8 Oct 11:26
Quote:
Dave_1885, Wed 7 Oct 18:44
Quote:
NMCmassive, Wed 7 Oct 07:58
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 6 Oct 20:03
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 6 Oct 18:32
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Tue 6 Oct 16:49
Indeed Lux and there are no easy solutions to be found.
Yes there is.
Blow the boats out the water? 🤔😂 cause you cant send them back to France when they land due to Brexit……
Why is killing people your first thought?
Why else would folk want to send the navy into the channel? Do you think the boats will be turned around quietly by those on board?
I think you’re projecting your own thoughts onto me.
Wouldn’t it be easier to change a couple of policies and to deport folk when they can’t justify their place here?
Oh it’s not my thoughts …..clearly missing the sarcasm and obvious intent to mock certain people in the media
You could write numerous policies on it - but how do you get the receiving country to agree to them? Do we not currently deport those who fail asylum bids?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 8 Oct 21:46
"We don`t want these people. Take them back."
"No."
"What?"
"No."
"Hmm...what do we do now?"
Where do you deport someone to if they`ve tossed all their documents and lie about where they`re from?
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 8 Oct 22:19
It’s that kind of thinking that is perpetuating the problem. You’re actually feeding the system that is allowing rape and murder.
But apparently changing policy is harder than allowing rape and murder
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 9 Oct 04:52
Quote:
NMCmassive, Thu 8 Oct 22:19
It’s that kind of thinking that is perpetuating the problem. You’re actually feeding the system that is allowing rape and murder.
But apparently changing policy is harder than allowing rape and murder
Ok then lets try this a different way - what policies would you write that deters them from crossing or removes them from the country right now?
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Fri 9 Oct 07:42
In June 2026 the EU introduced new rules on migration and asylum. The Migration and Assylum Pact came into force on the 1st of October. The purpose of the legislation is to introduce stronger border controls, faster asylum decisions at the border, tighter controls on movement between EIU countriles and mandatory responsibility sharing.
Safe countries of origin have been identified subject to individual examination to speed up the process.
Under specific conditions an EU member country can decline to examine a claim because effective protection is available elsewhere "safe third country".
The October reforms add stronger obligations to cooperate with removal and possible sanctions on countries for non cooperation. Return hubs outside the EU are also possible.
Over time, and depending on the effectiveness (delivery, case worker training, capacity, reliable identification etc) this could impact the UK in terms of numbers arriving in France. This of course does not give the UK the right to return Channel arrivals to France however the UK is seeking to cooperate with EU countries.
G Wardrope
Post Edited (Fri 09 Oct 08:12)
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 9 Oct 10:43
Quote:
Dave_1885, Fri 9 Oct 04:52
Quote:
NMCmassive, Thu 8 Oct 22:19
It’s that kind of thinking that is perpetuating the problem. You’re actually feeding the system that is allowing rape and murder.
But apparently changing policy is harder than allowing rape and murder
Ok then lets try this a different way - what policies would you write that deters them from crossing or removes them from the country right now?
Remove their insensitive for coming and they won’t come 👍🏻
COYP
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 9 Oct 15:47
Quote:
NMCmassive, Fri 9 Oct 10:43
Quote:
Dave_1885, Fri 9 Oct 04:52
Quote:
NMCmassive, Thu 8 Oct 22:19
It’s that kind of thinking that is perpetuating the problem. You’re actually feeding the system that is allowing rape and murder.
But apparently changing policy is harder than allowing rape and murder
Ok then lets try this a different way - what policies would you write that deters them from crossing or removes them from the country right now?
Remove their insensitive for coming and they won’t come 👍🏻
So what policies would you introduce or remove so there would be fewer incentives to come here?
Just to be clear - it is not possible to do mass deportations. If Restore or Reform suggest it is, they are incorrect. You could potentially jail people who have travelled here illegally for no valid reason, but where do they go after that, and how much has that cost?
What was already tried under the Tories was nonsense like Rwanda and putting people on old ships. I don`t recall a significant drop in crossings.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 9 Oct 16:09
Well, Rwanda didn`t happen so it can`t be said whether it was effective or not.
And jailing folk clearly isn`t an option.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 10 Oct 09:08
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Tue 6 Oct 09:55
Stop putting words in my mouth now Dandy. I would say that women and men being raped certainly deserve asylum.
And those that raped them on the boat beside them?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 10 Oct 10:27
Quote:
jake89, Fri 9 Oct 15:47
Quote:
NMCmassive, Fri 9 Oct 10:43
Quote:
Dave_1885, Fri 9 Oct 04:52
Quote:
NMCmassive, Thu 8 Oct 22:19
It’s that kind of thinking that is perpetuating the problem. You’re actually feeding the system that is allowing rape and murder.
But apparently changing policy is harder than allowing rape and murder
Ok then lets try this a different way - what policies would you write that deters them from crossing or removes them from the country right now?
Remove their insensitive for coming and they won’t come 👍🏻
So what policies would you introduce or remove so there would be fewer incentives to come here?
Just to be clear - it is not possible to do mass deportations. If Restore or Reform suggest it is, they are incorrect. You could potentially jail people who have travelled here illegally for no valid reason, but where do they go after that, and how much has that cost?
What was already tried under the Tories was nonsense like Rwanda and putting people on old ships. I don`t recall a significant drop in crossings.
I’m not introducing anything. Im taking it all away.
COYP
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 12 Oct 10:25
So what policies are you removing?
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 12 Oct 11:44
That British Muslim Patriot Yusuf was on the radio this morning saying that to force countries to take folk back he is proposing cutting off aid to countries and going after the assets that rich folk from those countries have in the UK if they don`t comply.
He implied that immigrants are the cause that a lady in Wales had to wait 23 hours for an ambulance after a stroke which contributed to her death.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 12 Oct 12:52
It`s all rather pathetic isn`t it Ipswich and the lost of possible sanctions they intend to apply against countries that have refuse to take failed applicants from us is laughable. Suspending visas for people from nations such as Syria and Afghanistan. Aye that it`ll bring the likes of the Taliban to the table.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Sun 18 Oct 02:07
Quote:
ipswichpar, Mon 12 Oct 11:44
That British Muslim Patriot Yusuf was on the radio this morning saying that to force countries to take folk back he is proposing cutting off aid to countries and going after the assets that rich folk from those countries have in the UK if they don`t comply.
He implied that immigrants are the cause that a lady in Wales had to wait 23 hours for an ambulance after a stroke which contributed to her death.
It will come. Don`t be so smarmy
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Sun 18 Oct 02:09
Quote:
87Par, Sun 18 Oct 02:07
Quote:
ipswichpar, Mon 12 Oct 11:44
That British Muslim Patriot Yusuf was on the radio this morning saying that to force countries to take folk back he is proposing cutting off aid to countries and going after the assets that rich folk from those countries have in the UK if they don`t comply.
He implied that immigrants are the cause that a lady in Wales had to wait 23 hours for an ambulance after a stroke which contributed to her death.
It will come and is coming to West fife. Don`t be so smarmy
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Sun 18 Oct 02:38
Quote:
jake89, Mon 12 Oct 10:25
So what policies are you removing?
You tell us right wing thugs. How so unfair it all is.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 18 Oct 10:13
Quote:
87Par, Sun 18 Oct 02:38
Quote:
jake89, Mon 12 Oct 10:25
So what policies are you removing?
You tell us right wing thugs. How so unfair it all is.
Wasn`t aimed at you, never called anyone a "right wing thug", your comment sounds like a 10 year old, still not answering the question.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 18 Oct 13:53
Mohammed Yaseen and his group beheaded Ken Bigley. Big Mo got here on a small boat. Spent 6 months in prison, get released then we can’t deport him because of his human rights.
So far it’s cost us £500k in legal aid and will continue to cost us an estimated £85k annually for accommodation, food allowance, monitoring and other related support costs.
And folk still ask what policies would you change 🤷🏻♂️
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 18 Oct 16:16
Look at France, animals, dirty animals, heartbreaking videos of shopkeepers watching as animals loot, an elderly couple stripped and robbed, by animals.
Students, pfft, cost of living, have a word, the reality is just dirty thug animals stealing, aided by left-wing self loathing idiots.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Mon 19 Oct 10:00
Even Macron called these riots as being perpetrated by the left while the BBC are still calling them "mostly peaceful" protests by students.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 19 Oct 10:45
Which could be true. But the BBC "balance" does grind my gears too.
From what I say of their coverage, they were very clear that a lot of the problems were caused by both far left and far right, with the far left being by far the most responsible.
Seems a bit bonkers to behave that way as it seems to make it more likely to stoke far right support....which sounds like it might get worse after the elections.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 19 Oct 10:57
There are likely just as many wronguns on the left as on the right.
No issue with people protesting but what`s the point in smashing up homes and businesses?
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 19 Oct 13:25
Quote:
jake89, Mon 19 Oct 10:57
There are likely just as many wronguns on the left as on the right.
No issue with people protesting but what`s the point in smashing up homes and businesses?
Look at the overwhelming demographic, this isn`t about school standards, unless they`re allowing 30-plus year old men into high school.
Not to worry, when it comes here i`m sure they`ll take into account your kind words like they did in Paris, ah, wait a second, sorry, they don`t care.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 19 Oct 19:41
What kind words?
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Mon 19 Oct 23:48
Probably words like this woman was offering while the rioters were looting her store like "I`m on your side","This isn`t helping Gaza".
She is now asking for donations.
Post Edited (Mon 19 Oct 23:49)
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 20 Oct 07:20
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Mon 19 Oct 23:48
Probably words like this woman was offering while the rioters were looting her store like "I`m on your side","This isn`t helping Gaza".
She is now asking for donations.
That`s the left for you, all for them and they don`t care, animals.
Videos circulating of them killing ducks in England.
But hey, cultural enrichment eh.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Tue 20 Oct 07:53
Don`t you see the irony is saying terms like "left" and "right" or whatever terms you referred to were meaningless because they were overused, and then calling everyone "animals"?
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 20 Oct 08:09
The "left" commentators now claiming those fighting age men, tanned, beards are not immigrants looting Louis Vuitton for Palestine, it`s Antifa.
So wait, Antifa are the violent bad guys now? The "left" will eat themselves before taking any accountability.
Ipswichpar, signal your withering virtue for these characters for all your worth, Paris has shown you`ll be treated as no better than dirt.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Tue 20 Oct 09:38
I`m not signalling any virtue.... yet another of your pointless phrases when you`ve been called out.
What they did was bang out of order and it is significant issue in wider society that needs to be addresses. I hope they get the book thrown at them.
I was going to post earlier about that Q idiot now running for Rector at St Andrews Uni. Why we`re letting an Indian here on a student visa become an MSP (who has held no surguries) and run for a significant role at our best University is a clear sign we have lost the plot while Rome is burning.
I`ll leave others to make a view on once more your inability to respond to a direct calling out of your inconsistency in posting. Don`t know why I even bothered raising it as you never accept any challenge.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Tue 20 Oct 10:02
The rector position was voted on last week Ipswich and some local guy who is defence analyst won but yeah I agree that this man shouldn`t be allowed to be an MSP. As far the rectorship, there were other non nationals standing for election including some American comedy actor. There have of course been other non British nationals who have served as rector, as far back as the 1920s.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Tue 20 Oct 10:14
Cheers TOWK... it has been broken for a while then!
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Tue 20 Oct 10:53
To be fair the Norwegian fella back in the 1920s.as well as the Serbian about ten years ago were people of a bit more substance than Manivannan.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 20 Oct 12:32
So the answer is "no words" then? 🙄
Again, the use of left/right is unhelpful. I believe we should seek to help people in need (pretty left sounding) but on the terms that people follow rules and are suitably vetted (sounding a bit right wing).
I`m not too in the know about the French riots but it seems to be primarily French nationals rather than immigrants, isn`t it? I can understand the frustrations and suspect we`ll soon see similar soon, but I can guarantee the majority of rioters are doing so out of greed rather than rage. What statement are you making by stealing a load of clothes from Zara?
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Tue 20 Oct 17:41
Reading the French newspapers on the topic there have been over 2500 arrests. Approx 60 have already been prosecuted.
The snapshot of those arrested mentioned students, homeless and first time offenders. The UK news recently reported that a man had been arrested for the townhall fire. He is considered to be "ultra left".
G Wardrope
Post Edited (Tue 20 Oct 19:30)
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 20 Oct 22:41
I agree left and right is unhelpful but I also agree, it’s left parties who are coming across as completely mental.
I don’t know how anyone could take Polanski seriously.
Lib Dem’s have went full blown crazy recently.
Labour still happy to entertain Islamic extremism. They’ll bring in blasphemy laws for votes then get kicked out
COYP
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Wed 21 Oct 09:11
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Posted from the Android app Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 20 Oct 12:32
So the answer is "no words" then? 🙄
Again, the use of left/right is unhelpful. I believe we should seek to help people in need (pretty left sounding) but on the terms that people follow rules and are suitably vetted (sounding a bit right wing).
Please tell me Jake you are not trying to claim to be some nuanced centrist. I get the impression you are a Lib Dem type, but as NMC intimated the Lib Dems have been overtaken by leftists for some time now.
If we were talking about helping genuine refugees who have been properly vetted we`d all be on the same page.
That is not what we`ve been doing, we`ve been letting in economic migrants with little or no vetting for some time now and even when they commit the most heinous crimes we seem incapable of deporting them.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 21 Oct 10:53
Some of them have been vetted as actual criminsls, rapists, groomers and terrirists but leftist extremists have been advising them on how to say they are gay, trans or claim to be children and facing persecution so they can stay.
Lunatic behaviour.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
Post Edited (Wed 21 Oct 10:58)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 21 Oct 13:31
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Bletchley_Par, Wed 21 Oct 09:11
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Posted from the Android app Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 20 Oct 12:32
So the answer is "no words" then? 🙄
Again, the use of left/right is unhelpful. I believe we should seek to help people in need (pretty left sounding) but on the terms that people follow rules and are suitably vetted (sounding a bit right wing).
Please tell me Jake you are not trying to claim to be some nuanced centrist. I get the impression you are a Lib Dem type, but as NMC intimated the Lib Dems have been overtaken by leftists for some time now.
If we were talking about helping genuine refugees who have been properly vetted we`d all be on the same page.
That is not what we`ve been doing, we`ve been letting in economic migrants with little or no vetting for some time now and even when they commit the most heinous crimes we seem incapable of deporting them.
I`m not claiming to be anything as opinions are nuanced.
Still waiting to find out what words I`ve used though.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 22 Oct 10:34
The caring left urging riots in the UK, can`t wait to see how the media still blame it on the "far right".
No doubt the looting by heavily tanned individuals will be framed as righteous cost if living protesters.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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