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 Double shooting in London
Topic Originator: onlytakes  
Date:   Sun 3 Jun 08:02

Watching the news last night I commented it must've been a slow news day. This morning I find out there was a double shooting in London (shotgun to the face!) and a teenager stabbed to death in Sussex. Last night they simply covered:

London attack 1 year on
England winning a friendly
Soap awards

Have the media given up?
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 Re: Double shooting in London
Topic Originator: londonparsclub  
Date:   Sun 3 Jun 10:43

Yes they have and will dodge the elephant in the room question

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 Re: Double shooting in London
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sun 3 Jun 11:24

I kind of see this from both sides.
Experience tells me that highlighting crimes seems to actually increase it.

It's like when you see a street riot and it's never off the news.

You can be damn sure that there will be another soon after elsewhere because of the publicity.

After all that's what they seek.

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 Re: Double shooting in London
Topic Originator: onlytakes  
Date:   Sun 3 Jun 11:25

Think then it's a case of shutting the door after the horse has bolted.
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 Re: Double shooting in London
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sun 3 Jun 15:19

It's like the school shootings in America.

The moment I heard these kids say "this won't happen again" was the moment I knew it would happen again very shortly afterwards

People are so consumed by the media that it becomes like they must make a name for themselves.

Isolated incidents seem to be a thing of the past

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 Re: Double shooting in London
Topic Originator: richie5401  
Date:   Sun 3 Jun 15:35

Are you blaming the media for these attacks?There are a lot of folks who watch T.V and read newspapers who don't consider any of these actions.

Society is plunging into an ever increasing cycle of dehumanization.It has always been there but seems to be accelerating just recently.
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 Re: Double shooting in London
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 3 Jun 17:40

I wouldn't blame the media for the attacks but it's a bit of lazy journalism to focus on London. You can expect the nation's press to focus on the capital to some extent but much of the media is based in London so there's an element of reporting what's on your doorstep with a lot of this.

You've also got to remember that news outlets need to make money and stories where London are the center of attention are going to attract more clicks and advertising revenue than smaller regions of the UK.

The reports about London having a higher homicide rate than New York were also a bit sensationalist as it was only for two months and the days of New York being a war zone are long gone. Similar to London it's now one of the safest cities in the world.

This a comparison between London and all major US cities for homicides per capita:

https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/12/londons-murder-rate-lower-usas-50-largest-cities-7540000/

This site shows how low NYs homicide rate is in relation to other US cities:

https://www.thetrace.org/2018/04/highest-murder-rates-us-cities-list/

Scotland had the region with the highest homicide rate last year:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/958836/highest-murder-rate-UK-scotland-police-division-renfrewshire

This compares the rates between London and other cities:

https://news.sky.com/story/in-context-just-how-bad-is-londons-murder-rate-11315585

Manchester is more dangerous than London and so are parts of North Wales.

The UK is still comparatively a very safe place but it's no surprise that as police cuts have come into effect, violent crime rates have been rising.

There's a very good Bloomber article here:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-04-12/london-murder-mystery-why-killings-are-up

There's a lot to be learnt from Scotland's success in tackling knife crime.

https://stv.tv/news/features/1411879-knife-crime-london-looking-to-scottish-prevention-model/

Appreciate there's a lot of links in the post but I think it helps contextualise the debate.
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 Re: Double shooting in London
Topic Originator: richie5401  
Date:   Sun 3 Jun 17:44

Exactly.It happens in every major city around the world and some not so major.
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 Re: Double shooting in London
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 3 Jun 17:46

Yep and some of the smaller towns are actually worse.
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 Re: Double shooting in London
Topic Originator: onlytakes  
Date:   Sun 3 Jun 17:56

I didn't mean focus specifically on London. It's just when you see it being reported that a wee ned chased a fella with a machete you kind of expect a double shooting and a murder also being newsworthy.
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 Re: Double shooting in London
Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Sun 3 Jun 19:49

I'm assuming you mean Suffolk rather than Sussex ot....at least I hope there wasn't another.

There's been a big increase in gang problems in Ipswich.

That area used to be on my walk home from town. It wasn't good at the best of times but there's no way it would be sensible to walk through there now. There's kids as young as 12 getting caught up in stuff now.

As well as the police cuts I'm sure gangs are filling the void that lack of opportunities are giving these young folk.
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 Re: Double shooting in London
Topic Originator: onlytakes  
Date:   Sun 3 Jun 20:58

Suffolk, Sussex...it's all the same to the geographically challenged like me 😉
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 Re: Double shooting in London
Topic Originator: renegade master  
Date:   Sun 3 Jun 22:13

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 Re: Double shooting in London
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 3 Jun 22:20

More folk killed in car crashes than either though.
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 Re: Double shooting in London
Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Tue 5 Jun 19:45

Just walked past Liverpool Street Station and someone has just been stabbed in broad daylight at rush hour.
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 Re: Double shooting in London
Topic Originator: cambozpar  
Date:   Wed 6 Jun 08:48

We live in dangerous times where our media is now a government propaganda tool and ITV is almost equalling BBC.

Lol !

Why do you think the BBC was set up in the first place?
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