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 All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Jbob  
Date:   Mon 5 Nov 18:21

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46099562

Bobs of the world unite
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Mon 5 Nov 18:23

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Jbob, Mon 5 Nov 18:21

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46099562

ADMIN.... min 😏

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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: WORST  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 06:16

As much as it’s a disgusting act carried out by complete m0rons, I don’t think there can be any legal action taken over it? So why the Grenfell Tower investigation team are making inquiries seems a fruitless task IMO. I suppose naming and shaming is about all they can really do?



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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 06:46

Whilst disgusting.. ..it gets no where near the theft if the charity money donated.
Where did the money go Teresa?

I Hope You're Ok Today....
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: WORST  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 07:09

^^^^WOW!
I’ll have to look into this one. Any pointers, Rasta?



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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: dave67  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 08:17

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/30/council-worker-charged-grenfell-tower-fraud-money-meant-victims/

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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 08:33

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dave67, Tue 6 Nov 08:17

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/30/council-worker-charged-grenfell-tower-fraud-money-meant-victims/

ADMIN.... min 😏

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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 09:00

the sad thing that more investigation and criminal convictions will come out of the "joke" bonfire scenario than will come out of the actual event.

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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 09:09

Read online that 5 of them have handed them self into the police, although it was from one of these ladbible type pages so not entirely sure how true it is.
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 09:11

BBC News - Grenfell Tower bonfire: Five men arrested over video
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46106224

ADMIN.... min 😏

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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: WORST  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 10:39

Superb
Charged with public order offences. I’m delighted to hear it



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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 10:43

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WORST, Tue 6 Nov 07:09

^^^^WOW!
I’ll have to look into this one. Any pointers, Rasta?


The company charged with collecting the donations was a private entity and they received millions.....a tiny fraction of which has been given to help the victims...the trick is who said company is linked with.

Appalling but not entirely unexpected.
Edit....glad the scum will be charged.

I Hope You're Ok Today....

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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 11:15

"replica" bit cardboard burned, few dis-tasteful laughs. 5 arrests and charges brought within 24 hours.

24 storey, 120 dwelling tower burns, large parts of which streamed live on TV as people screamed for help out windows etc and hundreds/thousands killed or still unaccounted for, 18 months later still nothing.

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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 12:56

If you watch the video , it's absolutely moronic and vile, I can't quite believe it. Plenty of scope to bring charges under the Public Order Act in my opinion.They looked like they knew exactly what they were doing.
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 15:04

While I find there behaviour absolutely abhorrent and disgusting, I honestly fail to see why this is a crime! Their behaviour is not what most of us would find funny but is having a strange warped sense of humour a criminal act nowadays?? This seems to be another case of the country jumping on the snowflake bandwagon and wasting more of the taxpayers money dealing with this “criminality”. What’s next?? Will it be a crime to dress a little differently??

What happened to free speech where you could say things and crack jokes without worrying about getting locked up for it?? As I said before I think their behaviour is outrageous and disgusting but it shouldn’t be a crime!!
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: WORST  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 15:27

Thanks, Rasta.



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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 15:30

"While I find there behaviour absolutely abhorrent and disgusting, I honestly fail to see why this is a crime! Their behaviour is not what most of us would find funny but is having a strange warped sense of humour a criminal act nowadays?? This seems to be another case of the country jumping on the snowflake bandwagon and wasting more of the taxpayers money dealing with this “criminality”. What’s next?? Will it be a crime to dress a little differently??

What happened to free speech where you could say things and crack jokes without worrying about getting locked up for it?? As I said before I think their behaviour is outrageous and disgusting but it shouldn’t be a crime!!"

the only "crime" is being stupid enough to film what you /your mates see as banter and post it in the internet where there is an unlimited number of snowflakes awaiting to be offended.

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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Hail2Crail  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 15:31

*fake outrage etc etc down with this sort of thing etc etc #ajout *
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 16:56

Delete “warped sense of humour” and insert “grossly offensive mocking of people who died in horrible circumstances” ?

Or perhaps it’s also OK to make fun of Auschwitz etc. ?
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: DRFC_no1  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 17:25

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veteraneastender, Tue 06 Nov 16:56

Delete “warped sense of humour” and insert “grossly offensive mocking of people who died in horrible circumstances” ?

Or perhaps it’s also OK to make fun of Auschwitz etc. ?


But I bet there is plenty of people in the UK that DO make fun of Auchswitz/Twin Towers/Missing people etc. that never get charged so where does the line get drawn?

Now by all means these clowns deserve some sort of punishment because thats such a sick thing to joke about but where does PC start/stop these days?

Would it not be better to put these 5 in front of the victims families for half an hour just to listen to their stories rather than 100 hours community service doing nothing to their mentality?
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: richie5401  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 17:41

^^ last paragraph is spot on.
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 18:33

The police have got enough on their plates chasing actual criminals without having to look into the “they offended me because they said this” stuff!!
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 20:34

I'd bet those arrested are white and that this video falls into the category of a racially motivated hate crime.

In which case it is only right and proper that the police are involved IMO.
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 20:46

So because they are white it’s automatically a racially motivated hate crime??
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 20:50

A very strong possibility methinks.
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: WORST  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 21:05

time lowest scum
Topic Originator: veteraneastender like | nolike
Date: Tue 6 Nov 20:34

I'd bet those arrested are white and that this video falls into the category of a racially motivated hate crime.

In which case it is only right and proper that the police are involved IMO.

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So you’re prepared to bet that it’s white racists? What makes you assume that? Have you any idea how offensive that could sound to some people, VEE?
What about comedians cracking jokes about 911, pedophilia, genocide etc? Do we go after them too? There’s video proof of some of their offensive and disrespectful behaviour.
Where were the authorities when folks were partying in the streets after thatcher died? Her family didn’t deserve that.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m delighted now that something can and is being done about these disgusting cretins, but a line must appear somewhere, and they’ve now moved the goalposts. This could bite back really hard IMO.



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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 21:14

"So you’re prepared to bet that it’s white racists? What makes you assume that? Have you any idea how offensive that could sound to some people, VEE?"

So what do you thing motivated the six arrested to make this vile sickening video ?

Just having a laugh for bonfire night ?
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Hail2Crail  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 21:47

Flakes of snow everywhere
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: WORST  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 21:51

I’m not disagreeing with you, VEE. I’m trying (unsuccessfully) to make a point about the way things are becoming in society nowadays, and how easily things can be misinterpreted (no! I’m not making light of the whole effigy scenario)

I’ll bow out now.



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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Tue 6 Nov 22:49

I'm not sure how that video could be misinterpreted - I'm not up to speed on such derogatory comments, but "All the little ninjas getting it” (as reported in the press) sounds suspiciously racist.

Based on a quick trawl through online Urban Dictionaries that appears to be slang alternative for the 'N' word.

Maybe not of course.

You are correct about jumping to conclusions - and we all know what they say about making assumptions.

I doubt these guys are KKK material, but the case for their defence will be interesting.

At the very least they have been very silly, now that their names and addresses are in the public domain the have a lot to be concerned about.
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Boston Red Sox  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 00:20

Apparently the 5 in question turned up at a police station following it appearing on social media. Make no bones about it they are cretins, but so are those who made jokes about gas chambers, piper alpha, hillsborough or the zeebrugga ferry etc. It happens in life. Shame these idiots but pursue the culpable for the fire.


Same rules apply
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Hail2Crail  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 09:17

Quote:

veteraneastender, Tue 6 Nov 22:49

I'm not sure how that video could be misinterpreted - I'm not up to speed on such derogatory comments, but "All the little ninjas getting it” (as reported in the press) sounds suspiciously racist.

Based on a quick trawl through online Urban Dictionaries that appears to be slang alternative for the 'N' word.

Maybe not of course.


Its not. Ninjas is another description for people who wear Burkas. As they look suspiciously like ninjas. OFFFEEENNNSIIIIVVVEEEEE!!!!! Id rather see them called postboxes.
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 10:20

Frankie Boyle has become a very wealthy man from offensive humour.

Turn on, Tune in, Drop out.
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 10:26

"Its not. Ninjas is another description for people who wear Burkas. As they look suspiciously like ninjas. OFFFEEENNNSIIIIVVVEEEEE!!!!! Id rather see them called postboxes."

That's one interpretation, however other opinions differ.

See entry 184 - https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ninja&page=27
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Hail2Crail  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 10:35

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veteraneastender, Wed 7 Nov 10:26

"Its not. Ninjas is another description for people who wear Burkas. As they look suspiciously like ninjas. OFFFEEENNNSIIIIVVVEEEEE!!!!! Id rather see them called postboxes."

That's one interpretation, however other opinions differ.

See entry 184 - https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ninja&page=27


You had to trawl through 183 posts on a website that is full of fictional statements to find that. Total ninja.
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 10:45

He’ll keep this thread going as long as he can
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 10:55

"You had to trawl through 183 posts on a website that is full of fictional statements to find that. Total ninja."

Eh ?

I trawled through nothing.

I Googled key words and it came up with that page in a few seconds - I have absolutely no idea what entries 1-181 were, as 182 was the first entry it took me to.

As for it being fictional - how do you work that one out ?

That apart, taking your definition as more appropriate.......how could "All the little Burkhas getting it” be interpreted as anything other than a racial slur ?



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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 11:03

Told ye
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 11:09

Welcome HH - nice to see you are still lurking around the periphery of a discussion with little to add, as per usual.

Nothing changes much.



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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Hail2Crail  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 12:04

Haha aye... keep going.
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 13:44

did no white people die at grenfell then?

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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: WORST  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 13:48

Topic Originator: veteraneastender like | nolike
Date: Tue 6 Nov 22:49

I'm not sure how that video could be misinterpreted - I'm not up to speed on such derogatory comments, but "All the little ninjas getting it” (as reported in the press) sounds suspiciously racist.

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I’ve obviously not made myself clear enough.

It’s not the video that I saying that could be misinterpreted, it speaks for itself. It was your use of this statement “I'd bet those arrested are white”. I responded with “you’re prepared to bet that it’s white racists? What makes you assume that? Have you any idea how offensive that could sound to some people, VEE?“, in order to make the point about misinterpretation.

ANYHOO! Bottom line is that the people who did this should be totally ashamed and publicly humiliated imo. But if they are to be charged with crime over this, then a precedence has been made and folks like Jimmy Carr, Franky Boyle, etc will have to ditch lots of their material. As I said above, those guys have many hours of footage out there where they are mocking unfortunate people, and world atrocities. Is that now video evidence of a crime? Should they now be charged with a crime?
If anyone laughs at these comedians for mocking things like this, are the people laughing now mocking others too? Are they committing a crime?

Where should the line be drawn?







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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 15:54

Quote:

Hail2Crail, Wed 07 Nov 12:04

Haha aye... keep going.


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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 16:03

I give in !!!

Tell you one thing, if this goes to trial, I'd hate to be called for jury service.
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: beaston  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 16:18

Are you not on their speed dial, just in case?
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 16:37

Trial? Jury?

you've already got them convicted in your own Kangaroo court for this being a race related attack, why would it need a trial?

While we are at it if they can burn an effigy like that maybe need to start questioning where they actually were around 14th June last year eh ;)

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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 17:33

"Are you not on their speed dial, just in case?"

Not eligible - but if I were I'd concoct some excuse to bodyswerve.

"you've already got them convicted in your own Kangaroo court for this being a race related attack, why would it need a trial?"

Attack ?

I see the alleged perpetrators have been released pending enquiries.



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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: parbucks  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 21:19

There can be no justification for the crass and intemperate behaviour of this low-life scum. In the days before social media none of this would have been publicised. Unless incitement to cause racial discrimination can be proven then no criminal action will be taken.

In condemning actions such as this we can be hypocritical in how we react to other inflammatory and insensitive behaviour and comments.

John McDonnell, Labour Shadow Chancellor; “I want to go back in time to the 1980s to "assassinate Thatcher".

John Osborne, former Chancellor; “I will not rest until Theresa May is "chopped up in bags in my freezer".

Jimmy Carr, so called comedian; “Say what you like about these servicemen amputees from Iraq and Afghanistan, but we’re going to have a f---ing good Paralympic team in 2012.”

I could go on........



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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Wed 7 Nov 23:25

True enough Parbucks, they may have been attempting political satire but fallen short. It didn't seem particularly funny to me. It's only words though, and I think anyone should be allowed to say whatever they want without any repercussions. Rather than the outrage over this I would prefer people to be outraged over why the tragedy happened in the first place
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Thu 8 Nov 10:05

parbucks, it was Billy Connolly's quip about Ken Bigley that came to mind when remembering bad taste jokes that were then sensationalised.

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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Opelfruitloops  
Date:   Thu 8 Nov 23:57

Well people have been putting the effigy of a Roman Catholic on top of the bonfire for centuries now

Be true to who you are
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: WORST  
Date:   Fri 9 Nov 06:02

Good point^^^^
But that effigy generates £’s for many, but mostly for the government, Opelfruitloops. No way they would ban a cash cow, or charge people with a criminal offence for that one.



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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 9 Nov 09:14

Explain how bonfires with Guy Fawkes generates pounds for the goverment?

Turn on, Tune in, Drop out.
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Topic Originator: DRFC_no1  
Date:   Fri 9 Nov 10:22

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The One Who Knocks, Fri 09 Nov 09:14

Explain how bonfires with Guy Fawkes generates pounds for the goverment?


Was he meaning Guy Fawkes or the Pope on the 12th of July?
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Fri 9 Nov 18:22

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The One Who Knocks, Fri 9 Nov 09:14

Explain how bonfires with Guy Fawkes generates pounds for the goverment?


Sale of fireworks for one I would presume.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 9 Nov 18:47

I don't think that's much of a money spinner for the goverment.

Turn on, Tune in, Drop out.
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Fri 9 Nov 19:25

Can I just be the first to say Rangers before anyone else can blame it on them 😝
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Fri 9 Nov 20:07

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Hummingbird Harry, Fri 9 Nov 19:25

Can I just be the first to say Rangers before anyone else can blame it on them 😝


Rangers? Keep up with the times Harry- its Sevco these days- Rangers died out years ago...
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Fri 9 Nov 20:47

Too easy min.
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Fri 9 Nov 20:56

Lol, you are still gutted your team died. Sat back n watched it happen. You can pretend you are trolling all you like on here, but the shame reeks off you- you all let Rangers get liquidated. Pars survived while Rangers died
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: Hummingbird Harry  
Date:   Fri 9 Nov 21:31

Ye rajin m8? 😂😂😂😂😂
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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: WORST  
Date:   Sat 10 Nov 08:15

HH, the master fisherman





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 Re: All time lowest scum
Topic Originator: DRFC_no1  
Date:   Sat 10 Nov 11:49

Its too easy for HH, nobody seems to understand that he is a Pars fan with a soft spot for them 😂 its pretty funny how annoyed folk get over it
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