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 Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: Jbob  
Date:   Wed 13 Feb 19:22

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health

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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Wed 13 Feb 19:35

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Jbob, Wed 13 Feb 19:22

<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health
>


Did you copy the url properly?



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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Wed 13 Feb 19:37

Is this the one you wanted?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-44532417

I totally agree. Especially the really strong skunky stuff you get nowadays.

Ive lost a few friends and seen a fair few lives ruined due to the abuse of cannabis.



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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Wed 13 Feb 19:42

This was put on the BBC today so assume it may have been this one.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-47215806
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: Athletico  
Date:   Wed 13 Feb 20:40

So is this proof?

No. The researchers were unable to prove cannabis use was definitively causing depression.


Quote above from the article. I'm not rubbishing the claims, but I doubt they will ever be able to conclusively link the two. I would argue that a sizable proportion of kids smoking cannabis, are doing so due to a difficult background, and may well already have underlying mental health issues.

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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: dave67  
Date:   Wed 13 Feb 21:58

Not accurate news from the bbc

No big surprise there then
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 13 Feb 22:28

"Not accurate news from the bbc"

They are reporting the findings of academic researchers - how does that make the story inaccurate ?
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: dave67  
Date:   Wed 13 Feb 23:15

BIG BOLD WRITING can't miss it

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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Thu 14 Feb 09:13

Headlines on published material are generally in BIG BOLD TEXT, eye catching intended to attract attention -standard practice.

Does'nt mean the substance of the article is inaccurate.
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: richie5401  
Date:   Thu 14 Feb 13:02

The research is there for all to see.Marching towards legalisation anyway.
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: average white par  
Date:   Thu 14 Feb 16:31

The only "Dangers of cannabis" that I can see is that I'm in danger of running out... thank Christ I get paid tomorrow, that's all I can say...

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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: parbucks  
Date:   Thu 14 Feb 18:16

AWP

This is not a frivolous matter.

If you have anyone close to you hooked on cannabis you can see first hand some of the distressing psychotic behaviour it creates and the impact this has on others.
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Thu 14 Feb 18:32

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parbucks, Thu 14 Feb 18:16

AWP

This is not a frivolous matter.

If you have anyone close to you hooked on cannabis you can see first hand some of the distressing psychotic behaviour it creates and the impact this has on others.


2 of my friends commited suicide and 1 is currently a psychotic mess. Cannabis was the primary cause. The narks continue to increase the levels of THC to make it more potent....and more damaging.

Oddly enough the medicinal cannabis needs THC to work. There is a legal limit on the strength though.

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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 15 Feb 07:14

Hit story to quell the rising tide of legalise support, the health minister wants to keep her cannabis profits up and maintain her husband's monopoly.

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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Fri 15 Feb 13:05

"the health minister wants to keep her cannabis profits up and maintain her husband's monopoly."

What husband - I thought Jeane Freeman's "other half" was female ?

Or have I got the wrong Health Minister ?
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: richie5401  
Date:   Fri 15 Feb 13:42

I don't think it will quell anything.Far too much money to be made.
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Fri 15 Feb 14:53

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veteraneastender, Fri 15 Feb 13:05

"the health minister wants to keep her cannabis profits up and maintain her husband's monopoly."

What husband - I thought Jeane Freeman's "other half" was female ?

Or have I got the wrong Health Minister ?


No you are correct. But don't let the truth get in the way of a sound bite.
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 15 Feb 16:27

To digress, a lot of same-sex couples have a 'husband' and a 'wife' although I'm not clear what the distinction is. For example, I think Ruth Davidson is the husband in her relationship, yet it was she who carried their child. Life is confusing.
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: Jbob  
Date:   Fri 15 Feb 18:43

I too have witnessed the dreadful impact that cannabis has had on many and their families. Devastating.

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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Fri 15 Feb 23:12

"No you are correct. But don't let the truth get in the way of a sound bite."

Fake news you say ?

I thought that was the BBC's monopoly ?
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 16 Feb 06:54

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veteraneastender, Fri 15 Feb 23:12

"No you are correct. But don't let the truth get in the way of a sound bite."

Fake news you say ?

I thought that was the BBC's monopoly ?


My mistake, Tory drug minister wants to keep her hubby's profits up.
The mainstream media covered it too for the gullible.

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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 16 Feb 07:02

Is this mainstream enough for you?


https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjz1dvJ1b_gAhWIBGMBHeXhCIMQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fuk-england-lincolnshire-44109060&psig=AOvVaw2TeCS-mntvJ9u_yLCmuEZt&ust=1550386407044234

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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Sat 16 Feb 07:50

Nott a health minister then. Whoops. And she declared the fact. Wow.
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sat 16 Feb 10:41

Victoria Atkins has NO political office on health matters and never has - she is certainly not the Health Minister, that would be Matt Hancock ?

The dubious reason she is described as "Drugs Minister" is because that area (in terms of criminality) comes within her remit as Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Crime, Safeguarding and Vulnerability.

The Home Office licence to British Sugar to grow cannabis was granted before she took office and she declared her "interest" when a backbench MP.

As she is opposed to the legalisation of the drug it's unclear (to me a least) how that meets the "the health minister wants to keep her cannabis profits up and maintain her husband's monopoly" suggestion.



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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 16 Feb 13:45

The issue is since she was appointed her recommendations have certainly enhanced her husband's business standing.
She has since turned down other similar ventures as cannabis "has no medicinal benefit" whilst her husband trades cannabis....for medical benefit.
But hey, the two proles I expected to stick up for her duly obliged🤣

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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Sat 16 Feb 14:08

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Rastapari, Sat 16 Feb 13:45

The issue is since she was appointed her recommendations have certainly enhanced her husband's business standing.
She has since turned down other similar ventures as cannabis "has no medicinal benefit" whilst her husband trades cannabis....for medical benefit.
But hey, the two proles I expected to stick up for her duly obliged🤣


What's a prole?
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Sat 16 Feb 14:11

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Rastapari, Sat 16 Feb 13:45

The issue is since she was appointed her recommendations have certainly enhanced her husband's business standing.
She has since turned down other similar ventures as cannabis "has no medicinal benefit" whilst her husband trades cannabis....for medical benefit.
But hey, the two proles I expected to stick up for her duly obliged🤣


Isn't she speaking about 2 different types of cannabis. Hey I don't know as I have no involvement with the drug in either form.
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sat 16 Feb 14:19

The issue is getting the facts right.
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: gwh18  
Date:   Sat 16 Feb 14:48

Change the article title to the Dangers of poverty, nae one would give a **** . Fake morale outrage on lifestyle choice. Zzzzzzzz




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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sun 17 Feb 07:21

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veteraneastender, Sat 16 Feb 14:19

The issue is getting the facts right.


She is an influence on drugs policy,yes?
She has influenced husband's business,yes?
Conflict of interest, yes?
But yeah, you get hung up I used the wrong title for her.

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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: Dalgety_Par  
Date:   Sun 17 Feb 08:46

Folk who smoke weed are just hippies and losers.

It's also extremely unattractive. Would never date a lassie who smokes weed, as it's just disgusting.

It should stay illegal

It's common knowledge that Lionel Messi kept a photo of Hamish French by his bedside as inspiration every morning!
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sun 17 Feb 08:53

"She is an influence on drugs policy,yes?"

The government of the day makes such policies. There will be many senior figures in the Tories (and other parties) who have far more influence on the issue.

"She has influenced husband's business,yes?"

Only if an individual newly elected back bench MP, who has declared an interest, can manipulate contracts at Home Office ministerial level.

I expect legalised drug manufacture is but a very small area of British Sugar's enterprises.

"Conflict of interest, yes?"

What compromise ?

It doesn't seem to have raised any ongoing significant objections in Parliament ? Happy to be educated on that aspect.

The only objectors would appear to be the pro drug legislation faction - and that would be par for the course.

"But yeah, you get hung up I used the wrong title for her."

Not knowing basic facts is a touch more of a substantive error than getting a wrong title - she has no role in health matters.

Nice try at deflection, but no cigar.



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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sun 17 Feb 09:06

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veteraneastender, Sun 17 Feb 08:53

"She is an influence on drugs policy,yes?"

The government of the day makes such policies. There will be many senior figures in the Tories (and other parties) who have far more influence on the issue.

"She has influenced husband's business,yes?"

Only if an individual newly elected back bench MP, who has declared an interest, can manipulate contracts at Home Office ministerial level.

I expect legalised drug manufacture is but a very small area of British Sugar's enterprises.

"Conflict of interest, yes?"

What compromise ?

It doesn't seem to have raised any ongoing significant objections in Parliament ? Happy to be educated on that aspect.

The only objectors would appear to be the pro drug legislation faction - and that would be par for the course.

"But yeah, you get hung up I used the wrong title for her."

Not knowing basic facts is a touch more of a substantive error than getting a wrong title - she has no role in health matters.

Nice try at deflection, but no cigar.


They are the biggest exporter of medical cannabis in the world allegedly.
She has the power to refuse licenses.
Is "drugs" medicinal or otherwise not a health issue?

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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sun 17 Feb 11:11

"She has the power to refuse licenses."

I would have thought that came under the Home Secretary, Sajid Javid ?

If she took action that was contrary to government policy she would lose office in double quick time, as would any other MP.

"Is "drugs" medicinal or otherwise not a health issue?"

Drugs in the medicinal field is obviously a health issue - and would come within the responsibility of the Health Minister, Matt Hancock, not Victoria Atkins who has a totally separate and different remit.

https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/parliamentary-under-secretary-of-state--62
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: calpar  
Date:   Sun 17 Feb 11:12

Owned Rasta, enjoy that cigar mate 😄
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Mon 18 Feb 12:20

"It's also extremely unattractive. Would never date a lassie who smokes weed, as it's just disgusting."

To be fair, the same applies to cigarettes.

I smoked between the age of 15 and 25 and it was only when I stopped did I appreciate the smell that came off fags and the rank reek that lingered on clothes and around the house etc.
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: Jbob  
Date:   Mon 18 Feb 16:37

Paranoia can cloud one's judgement.

Or so they tell me.

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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: average white par  
Date:   Tue 19 Feb 17:52

"Folk who smoke weed are just hippies and losers"

Please expand sir... I'm particularly looking forward to your definition of the word "hippie"..

"never date a lassie that smokes weed"

You're clearly already married, or Nancy Reagan...



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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 20 Feb 07:11

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average white par, Tue 19 Feb 17:52

"Folk who smoke weed are just hippies and losers"

Please expand sir... I'm particularly looking forward to your definition of the word "hippie"..

"never date a lassie that smokes weed"

You're clearly already married, or Nancy Reagan...


Lol😂😂😂

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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 20 Feb 07:15

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calpar, Sun 17 Feb 11:12

Owned Rasta, enjoy that cigar mate 😄


Owned?
Hardly, that link more than proves my point😂

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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 20 Feb 12:01

Which part of the remit of the Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Crime, Safeguarding and Vulnerability has a bearing on the legalised production of cannabis for medical pupposes ?
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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 20 Feb 13:45

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veteraneastender, Wed 20 Feb 12:01

Which part of the remit of the Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Crime, Safeguarding and Vulnerability has a bearing on the legalised production of cannabis for medical pupposes ?


Jesus **** if you need that explained there's no point.
Carry on bowing.

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 Re: Dangers of cannabis
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 20 Feb 14:24

"Jesus **** if you need that explained there's no point.
Carry on bowing."

Victoria Atkins was appointed to her Junior Ministerial post in November 2017, a year AFTER the Home Office awarded the licence to General Sugar to produce legalised cannabis.

Carry on ignoring the facts.



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