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 Words Fail Me
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 31 May 20:05

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-48472705
Read the first six paragraphs and then stop and decide, with what the judge had said, how long the minimum sentence would be that he would ultimately hand down.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Fri 31 May 20:58

Hope he never sees outside a cell again.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 31 May 21:00

Well he might do in seven years.

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They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: renegade master  
Date:   Sun 2 Jun 10:46

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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sun 2 Jun 10:52

No problem with the defence pleas. That's what a lawyer is supposed, in fact is honoured to do, represent the defendant to the best of his ability. My problem is with the judge imposing a minimum tarrif of only seven years. If that is what the law says is the maximum term that he could hand down then the law needs changed.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Words Fail Me
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sun 2 Jun 16:06

Maybe so but its not a pretty sight when every underhand dirty tactic is used in court to defend some scumbag. I was a juror in a case a few years ago and the way that innocent witnesses were spoken to by the defence lawyer in his attempt to discredit their evidence was disgusting.
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Topic Originator: renegade master  
Date:   Sun 2 Jun 18:52

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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Mon 3 Jun 14:51

The minimum seems far too low but it is in reality irrelevant. The OLR will almost certainly mean he never gets out.

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