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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Wed 24 Jul 18:18
Lost in time like tears in the rain.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Wed 24 Jul 19:02
RIP Rutger. He was pretty unique as an actor.
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Wed 24 Jul 20:09
Aw ffs! See ye up there, Rutger!
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 24 Jul 20:17
Who?
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Wed 24 Jul 20:43
You'll know him from the Guiness adverts of the late 80s early 90s Parrot.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Wed 24 Jul 21:13
RIP Roy
 East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Wed 24 Jul 21:14
The Hitcher was the only film I've ever found genuinely terrifying, so he gets that.
Does anyone remember the telepathy Guinness ad by the way?
Well the first time I heard the second version it was 2am and I was indulging in a variety of mushroom which are readily foraged for in the coo fields of Fife. Alone, in my bedroom at my mum's house, aged 14.
Which means that he terrified teenage me twice which is quite impressive because some of the people I actually knew were much scarier than him :D
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 25 Jul 12:17
Another sad loss of a fine actor.
He was also a Russian POW in the (based on true events) film about the revolt at Sorbibor concentration camp in 1943.
RIP
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Topic Originator: Turps
Date: Thu 25 Jul 12:36
He was good as Roy Batty in Blade Runner.
RIP
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 25 Jul 12:38
Also in Fatherland, the alternate history film where Germany won the war, based on the novel of the same name.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 25 Jul 13:14
I had forgotten that, Robert Harris is an excellent writer.
Rupert Penry Jones had a modest part before he became more prominent in Spooks.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 25 Jul 21:49
As mentioned, Fatherland was my favourite film by Rutger Hauer.
It was a world where Germany won the war but the Holocaust was covered up until two decades later.
Hitler was an old man. Rutger a German officer discovered the truth and his performance was understated.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 25 Jul 22:17
"It was a world where Germany won the war....."
Weren't Russians and Polish partisan forces still defying the Reich in a guerilla war in the East and inflicting heavy casualties on the Germany military ?
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 25 Jul 23:36
I've read the book more recently than I've watched the film and in the book certainly you are correct VE. In the book the Rutger Hauer character is a former submariner who is now a police detective. Although it takes place in an alternate time line it covers the guilt that ordinary Germans have to shoulder for turning a blind eye to what happened to their fellow citizens who happened to be Jewish. Well worth a read and I suspect the movie maybe didn't do it justice.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
Post Edited (Thu 25 Jul 23:37)
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Fri 26 Jul 00:29
I have to confess I never read the book so only judging on the film alone.
It was an interesting concept which I would agree is probably much better in written form.
But, saying that , the acting was great from both Rutger and Miranda Richardson imo.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 26 Jul 14:00
I've only just realised that the murder at the start of the book and film were part of an organised attempt to remove survivors of the Wanasee Conference of January 1942, which had confirmed the Final Solution.
This was to eliminate these witnesses when the Nazi government of the 1960s attempted to explain away the fate of the Jews etc. deported east.
The book stayed with factual events until around the time of the attempt to assasinate Heydreich in Prague, May 1942, then the plot deviated towards an alternative history with him surviving the attack.
I'll need to re-read the book as Heydreich was the top ranking Nazi at Wanasee and it would have been a huge play for the regime to try and murder him - unless he had died of natural causes earlier in the storyline ?
Post Edited (Fri 26 Jul 14:01)
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Fri 26 Jul 16:45
Great in The Hitcher.
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