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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Wed 26 Aug 08:27
You would think hundreds of people chanting paedophile outside Buckingham Palace would be news worthy...
But no our paedophile rife state tv seems to have forgotten our Royal family are harbouring a rapist.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 26 Aug 09:24
No wonder the queen is in hiding and doesn't intend to go back there
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Wed 26 Aug 09:55
Quote:
Rastapari, Wed 26 Aug 08:27
You would think hundreds of people chanting paedophile outside Buckingham Palace would be news worthy...
But no our paedophile rife state tv seems to have forgotten our Royal family are harbouring a rapist.
You must have missed the BBC news item I saw. It only appeared once in the news channel but then I did only watch for an hour. It was probably repeated in the following hour since that's how these channels work. It was however covered several times in the local BBC London news.
Oh and it's all over every news paper on the web.
A fairly ineffective protest surely anyway considering there is no members of the family currently at the palace. It's a bit like them shouting at my front door whilst I'm in Tenerife.
Post Edited (Wed 26 Aug 10:16)
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Wed 26 Aug 13:27
Clearly not that ineffective if it made every news paper on the web
 East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Wed 26 Aug 13:47
Quote:
MDCCCLXXXV, Wed 26 Aug 13:27
Clearly not that ineffective if it made every news paper on the web
I meant ineffective in that the people/person who was the subject of the protest was clearly nowhere near the place the protest took place.
Make it more effective. Stand outside his house not some random palace.
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Wed 26 Aug 15:10
So Rasta
He is a paedophile and a rapist?
Did I miss the court case where he was found guilty?
There was me thinking that he was a stupid bloke who actually believed that women threw themselves at him, where in reality he was being 'taken care of' by very well paid prostitutes.
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Wed 26 Aug 16:43
If he was "just being taken care of by well paid prostitutes"
Then Why did "the pimp" kill himself?
East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Wed 26 Aug 17:58
"kill himself"?
I thought Rasta would be all over that one...
Anyway - the main mouthpiece is on record as saying that taking care of P.A. was "just another job" and that she was "paid" for said 'work'.
Give me another word for a woman that willingly/happily flies around the world getting paid a lot of money to have sex/massages/dances with rich older men?
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 26 Aug 18:33
Quote:
Luxembourg Par, Wed 26 Aug 17:58
"kill himself"?
I thought Rasta would be all over that one...
Anyway - the main mouthpiece is on record as saying that taking care of P.A. was "just another job" and that she was "paid" for said 'work'.
Give me another word for a woman that willingly/happily flies around the world getting paid a lot of money to have sex/massages/dances with rich older men?
I am happy to be all over this comment although I agree with your previous point.
The pimp mysteriously died after the corrupt Trumpophile AG Barr visited the prison and the security cameras miraculously failed at the perfect time!!!!
I am no conspiracy theorist but I'm not buttoned up the back either.
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Wed 26 Aug 19:06
Quote:
Luxembourg Par, Wed 26 Aug 17:58
"kill himself"?
I thought Rasta would be all over that one...
Anyway - the main mouthpiece is on record as saying that taking care of P.A. was "just another job" and that she was "paid" for said 'work'.
Give me another word for a woman that willingly/happily flies around the world getting paid a lot of money to have sex/massages/dances with rich older men?
YAAAAWWWWNNNN!!!
East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: Kessel
Date: Wed 26 Aug 20:25
"ENABLERS!! ENABLERS!! ENABLERS!!"
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 26 Aug 20:40
HOOR ?
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 26 Aug 20:48
"The pimp mysteriously died after the corrupt Trumpophile AG Barr visited the prison and the security cameras miraculously failed at the perfect time!!!! "
Careful - you'll have to answer to "Irn Bru" with that one !!!
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 26 Aug 22:08
Quote:
Buspasspar, Wed 26 Aug 20:40
HOOR ?
Fairly disgusting comment. Not many women end up in prostitution without being pretty much forced into it
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Topic Originator: BigJPar
Date: Thu 27 Aug 04:21
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Thu 27 Aug 05:15
Quote:
BigJPar, Thu 27 Aug 04:21
Quote:
Luxembourg Par, Wed 26 Aug 15:10
So Rasta
He is a paedophile and a rapist?
Did I miss the court case where he was found guilty?
There was me thinking that he was a stupid bloke who actually believed that women threw themselves at him, where in reality he was being 'taken care of' by very well paid prostitutes.
Saville was never found guilty either. Lack of a court case is not proof of innocence.
Neither is lack of a court case proof of guilt
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Topic Originator: BigJPar
Date: Thu 27 Aug 05:50
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Thu 27 Aug 08:14
<Saville was never found guilty either. Lack of a court case is not proof of innocence.>
The concept of "innocent until proven guilty" not reached your neck of the woods yet?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 27 Aug 08:18
I think it's fairly clear that Prince Andrew is guilty of something. It's a case of determining what. Only two people know the truth of what happened and it ranges from "Daft laddie" to "rapist". That's quite a wide spectrum.
Is it not concluded that the accuser was above the age of consent so therefore more "dirty old man" than "paedophile"?
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Thu 27 Aug 09:10
'Guilty'?
He is clearly yet another entitled knob - however unsavoury, this does not make him a rapist.
I don't like him, but being a rich entitled erse is not a criminal offence.
He has likely grown up with girls/women (who would have normally been waaaay out of his league) throwing themselves at him 'just' because he is a prince.
He goes to parties where lots of young attractive women are dancing around with skimpy clothing, many are on the game, many are hoping to snag a rich bf/husband, most are available...
Why should any of Epstein's parties have been any different?
Look at any of the other rich entitled scumbags hanging around with young birds.
Berliscioni? Vacchi? Trump?
(at least Trump marries some of them...)
Without money/power do you think Ivanka/Marla/Melania would have looked twice at him?
Michael Douglas / Zeta Jones?
Brad Pitt is still at it with yet another woman 30 years his junior.
However, to be called out 20? years after allegedly knobbing a scantily clad 17 year old (yes - 17 is over the age of consent) who has admitted to being a PAID sex-worker - wtf?
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 27 Aug 09:29
"Is it not concluded that the accuser was above the age of consent so therefore more "dirty old man" than "paedophile"?"
Ms. Roberts alleges she had three encounters with PA.
One in New Mexico, one on Little St. James, the other in London.
Under state law she was of consenting age in NM, likewise under UK law in London, at 17 and 16 respectively.
Not so in the US Virgin Islands where should would have been 16 and the age is 18.
The age question becomes irrelevant if she were coerced, that is the critical issue that has to be established.......after verification of the alleged encounters with PA.
Maxwell is the key player - let's hope the FBI can unravel the truth.
Post Edited (Thu 27 Aug 10:13)
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Topic Originator: BigJPar
Date: Thu 27 Aug 09:31
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Thu 27 Aug 11:14
Quote:
BigJPar, Thu 27 Aug 09:31
So saville was innocent???
Relevance?
In the eyes of the law - unfortunately yes, he was not tried or found guilty.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 27 Aug 12:22
Didn't realise about the Virgin Islands.
Wouldn't justify in the slightest what Prince Andrew is alleged to have done but I'd suggest some of the accusations would not hold much water legally. It sounds to me like he has allegedly indirectly procured sex by way of a pimp offering a girl to him. The crime here would be based on her age at the time, where they were at the time and whether the age and prostitution laws in that area resulted in it being considered that a criminal act had occurred.
The big scandal here is that if this were me I would have been in court by now and either convicted or released. Prince Andrew is being allowed to hide behind his mum and his money.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 27 Aug 13:26
"The big scandal here is that if this were me I would have been in court by now and either convicted or released. Prince Andrew is being allowed to hide behind his mum and his money."
Not quite as straightforward as that unfortunately.
For example, was a report ever made to the police, let alone a formal complaint or accusation ?
The alleged encounter took place in 2001, however it didn't appear in the public awareness until late 2014.
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Thu 27 Aug 14:13
<The big scandal here is that if this were me I would have been in court by now >
On an unproven allegation that allegedly took place in the Caribbean many years before?
From a prostitute that was well paid at the time, and has also received at least one round of hush money since?
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 27 Aug 14:56
I think Jake is referring to the alleged happenings at Maxwell's place in Belgravia, not Little St. James' island ?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 27 Aug 17:56
The biggest issue here is that there are a lot of allegations being thrown round (not just with PA) but little in the way of investigation or even support to investigate.
The problem is that the truth generally seems to come out too late. I'll bet in about twenty years we'll get the real truth coming out about child stars like Corey Feldman, Corey Haim (RIP) and Macaulay Culkin as the alleged perpetrators will begin dying.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 27 Aug 18:09
That can work two ways.
For example, Lord Bramall and Leon Brittain (and others) were implicated in the alleged organised Westminster paedophile group and/or the Dolphin Square abuse, torture and murder claims.
Tragically they passed on before their innocence could be legally confirmed when the allegations were exposed for the odious lies that they were.
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Thu 27 Aug 19:14
Quote:
BigJPar, Thu 27 Aug 05:50
Quote:
moviescot, Thu 27 Aug 05:15
Quote:
BigJPar, Thu 27 Aug 04:21
Quote:
Luxembourg Par, Wed 26 Aug 15:10
So Rasta
He is a paedophile and a rapist?
Did I miss the court case where he was found guilty?
There was me thinking that he was a stupid bloke who actually believed that women threw themselves at him, where in reality he was being 'taken care of' by very well paid prostitutes.
Saville was never found guilty either. Lack of a court case is not proof of innocence.
Neither is lack of a court case proof of guilt
We can agree your original point is irrelevant to proof of innocence or guilt then.
You can agree what you like but not with me. I never brought up anyone's innocence or guilt.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 27 Aug 19:22
Ahh yes, because a child who has been repeatedly molested/raped by rich pricks like 'royalty', Epstein, Trump and God knows who else will feel safe enough to come out and go to the Police about it... Easy way to wind up dead by 'suicide' in a suitcase zipped from the outside
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Thu 27 Aug 21:39
Here we go with the 'child' crap again.
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Topic Originator: BigJPar
Date: Thu 27 Aug 21:51
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 27 Aug 22:48
Good question, his alibi for that night has never been established with certainty.
Duty rota records of his Met. minders that night are reported as having been destroyed.
Incidentally, on an earlier observation, she has made no claims of improprieties against Trump.
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Topic Originator: BigJPar
Date: Thu 27 Aug 23:03
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 31 Aug 10:39
Surelt if he was not guilty he'd be more than happy to speak to the FBI? Did America not offer that lassie that killed the brittish guy then claim diplomatic immunity? If he wasn't guilty it was a brilliant pr opportunity missed by the royals. You get a chance to clear your name and help out a family who are always in the news at the same time. He's definitely guilty the question now is how involved he was.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Mon 31 Aug 10:40)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 31 Aug 17:52
There seems to be confusion with PA's help.
He says he's offered help.
US officials say they haven't been able to get in touch.
One of them is lying.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 1 Sep 09:55
Quote:
jake89, Mon 31 Aug 17:52
There seems to be confusion with PA's help.
He says he's offered help.
US officials say they haven't been able to get in touch.
One of them is lying.
I think we can guess which one, I see the usual on here defending, no surprises there.
What a despot this place is.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Tue 1 Sep 10:49
Yup - US officials = bastions of truth
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Topic Originator: Saltire
Date: Tue 1 Sep 10:56
Nobody defending they are just awaiting things such as evidence and a trial before castrating someone for being guilty. Like most of the crusades you undertake we await the evidence you have.
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Topic Originator: Parplod
Date: Tue 1 Sep 12:33
Best thing about this thread is that Rasta is back on the forum. He always brings much* to the debate.
* = insert noun as you see fit.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 2 Sep 09:46
I doubt if ANY of the parties involved in these allegations is telling The Truth, The Whole Truth and Nothing But The Truth etc.
For clarification, and the avoidance of any doubt, that includes HRH.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Thu 3 Sep 17:09
Court documents allege Prince nonce had an orgy with underage girls now...
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Thu 3 Sep 17:20
Quote:
Rastapari, Thu 3 Sep 17:09
Court documents allege Prince nonce had an orgy with underage girls now...
Source?
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Thu 3 Sep 17:27
This one maybe
Jeffrey Epstein allegedly forced an underage girl to have sex with Prince Andrew so he could blackmail the royal, US court documents claim.
According to the papers, unsealed in New York on Friday, the alleged encounter took place at Epstein’s private retreat in the US Virgin Islands.
The alleged victim, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, was reportedly told to “give the prince whatever he demanded and report back to [Epstein] on the details of the sexual abuse”.
Victim is
A woman who said she was sex trafficked by disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein, has claimed she had sex with Prince Andrew after they visited a London nightclub when she was 17.
Virginia Roberts Giuffre said the Queen’s second son gave her alcohol before the alleged sexual encounter at the home of British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell in 2001.
Which story that is being told here is correct? I don't know. Was she on London or on an island. Can't she decide/ remember?
Post Edited (Thu 03 Sep 17:30)
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Thu 3 Sep 17:28
Of course this is old news regurgitated . Originally from 2015 and recently regurgitated on 1/8/2020.
Or has something else happened.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 3 Sep 20:02
"Which story that is being told here is correct? I don't know. Was she on London or on an island. Can't she decide/ remember?"
Both.
The first alleged encounter was Sat.10th/Sun.11th March 2001 after a night at Tramps nightclub thereafter at Maxwell's property in Belgravia.
The second alleged dalliance was on Little St. James in the US Virgin Islands, precise date unclear, but not so long after London it would appear.
The other alleged close encounter was at Epstein ranch in New Mexico.
Not exactly breaking news, been around online for a time.
Post Edited (Thu 03 Sep 20:04)
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Tue 8 Sep 20:04
Channel 5 tonight at 10:05pm.
A repeat.
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