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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Mon 11 Jul 13:41
I`m having a debate online and the other person is claiming almost everyone knows about The Holodomor.
I disagree.
I`m just interested if folk on here know of it.
And are you generally political or not, to see if its limited to those politically engaged who know of it. Or am I wrong and it is common knowledge.
If you do know of it did you know for a long time or just in recent history.
Cheers in advance for any replies.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 11 Jul 16:30
Not particularly political but keep reasonably up to date. Was not aware.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Mon 11 Jul 17:07
I am sure there is a remembrance day for Holodomor around November .. will google and check
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Mon 11 Jul 17:34
Wasn`t aware of it until the conflict kicked off and I seen it mentioned.
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Mon 11 Jul 19:27
I hadn`t heard of it. Now that I have, it would seem to be one of the reasons that explain why many Ukranians are fiercely independent and anti-Russian.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Holodomor
(I`d say I`m only a wee bit above average politically engaged, mainly via British TV News, documentaries, Newsnight, Al Jazeera etc.)
Post Edited (Mon 11 Jul 19:31)
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Mon 11 Jul 21:04
Is that the mute character in Game of Thrones?
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Mon 11 Jul 21:11
A summary of Russian history:
"and then it got worse"
The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Mon 11 Jul 22:10
The name rings a bell and I knew about the famine but I would have struggled to put the two together.
I`d say it`s not very well known at all, a bit like the USSR`s deportation of over a million and a half Poles to Siberia after they invaded in 1939. Most didn`t survive.
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Topic Originator: sammer
Date: Tue 12 Jul 10:51
I don’t think the Holodomor is well known in the west. If you’ve read some Slavic or political history you will have come across it but I wouldn’t say it’s part of our collective historical knowledge. The same goes for the Bengal famine of 1943 and the more recent Chinese famine of the late 1950s. The Irish famine of the 1840s is fairly well known in Scotland but that knowledge may spring from the sectarian rivalry that exists between Celtic and Rangers.
There are endless books written about wars but not so many about famine as a specific subject. Any knowledge most of us have regarding historical famines is probably a by- product of political or military history.
sammer
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 13 Jul 09:58
"The Irish famine of the 1840s is fairly well known in Scotland but that knowledge may spring from the sectarian rivalry that exists between Celtic and Rangers."
Or the fact that most Catholic Irish who emigrated to Britain or the USA did so as a direct result of the famine.
I`d never heard of the word Holodomor previously - but knew that Stalin`s regime used famine as a weapon.
Post Edited (Wed 13 Jul 19:35)
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