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 Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 2 Oct 16:52

Has anyone else seen the footage on the BBC website of the rugby `own goal`? Youth teams from Hawick and Gala were involved in a tight game and with the score at 31-33 Gala had the chance to tie the scores by converting a try with the last kick of the match. It was clear the attempt was going to fall short but, before it hit the ground, a Hawick player came off their line and kicked the ball. It deflected off his foot and went over the bar. The referee, who had officiated at international matches in the past, correctly ruled that it counted as a conversion and the game ended as a 33-33 draw!
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 Re: Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 2 Oct 17:00

Definitely one for the 2033 what happens next show wee eck

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 Re: Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 2 Oct 17:33

If we`re still around in 2033 we`ll probably have forgotten all about it!
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 Re: Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 2 Oct 17:41

Correct wee eck .. I will be the worlds oldest living man by then :-)

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 Re: Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 3 Oct 08:41

Quote:

wee eck, Mon 2 Oct 16:52

Has anyone else seen the footage on the BBC website of the rugby `own goal`? Youth teams from Hawick and Gala were involved in a tight game and with the score at 31-33 Gala had the chance to tie the scores by converting a try with the last kick of the match. It was clear the attempt was going to fall short but, before it hit the ground, a Hawick player came off their line and kicked the ball. It deflected off his foot and went over the bar. The referee, who had officiated at international matches in the past, correctly ruled that it counted as a conversion and the game ended as a 33-33 draw!


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-66982218

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 Re: Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Tue 3 Oct 14:22

Seen this the other day and even in my years of playing/watching Ive never known that was the law until then - but it makes sense, as the ball from a conversion is technically still live until it hits the deck…same as a footballing penalty shootout where the balls still live if in play and moving, even if it hits the woodwork
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 Re: Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Tue 3 Oct 15:55

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Dave_1885, Tue 3 Oct 14:22

Seen this the other day and even in my years of playing/watching Ive never known that was the law until then - but it makes sense, as the ball from a conversion is technically still live until it hits the deck…same as a footballing penalty shootout where the balls still live if in play and moving, even if it hits the woodwork


I’m sure the kick could be retaken if that weird scenario of the lad kicking the ball elsewhere happened for all the same reasons.

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 Re: Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: fcda  
Date:   Wed 4 Oct 13:37

Not sure what the rules are for a conversion attempt. If the boy had caught the ball instead, could he have run it back for a try? I`m guessing no, but if the ball is only dead when it hits the ground, then what?
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 Re: Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par  
Date:   Fri 6 Oct 11:18

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fcda, Wed 4 Oct 13:37

Not sure what the rules are for a conversion attempt. If the boy had caught the ball instead, could he have run it back for a try? I`m guessing no, but if the ball is only dead when it hits the ground, then what?


The conversion attempt is essentially a dead point of play.
If they miss, they don’t get the points and the game restarts with the exact same kickoff from the centre by the other team that would occur if the kick had been successful.

There is no option to catch the missed kick and play from there.
Otherwise I guess, a legit tactic would be to chip the ball to a team-mate to run in for another try

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 Re: Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: fcda  
Date:   Fri 6 Oct 12:05

Right enough. Cheers
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 Re: Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Fri 6 Oct 13:03

Another way of thinking about it is a penalty in a shoot out, where the ball hits the woodwork, hits the keepers back and goes in - it still counts as a goal 👍🏻
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 Re: Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 6 Oct 13:05

Is there any rule about where the opposing players have to be during the conversion attempt?

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 Re: Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Fri 6 Oct 13:48

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The One Who Knocks, Fri 6 Oct 13:05

Is there any rule about where the opposing players have to be during the conversion attempt?


As soon as a kicker begins their run up, you can “charge” a kick - thats conversions and penalties.

Some kickers have been caught out before by taking a slight step backwards before they begin motion, and kicks been charged down and officials have allowed it due to them starting motion.
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 Re: Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: fcda  
Date:   Fri 6 Oct 14:22

Didn`t think you could charge penalty attempts.
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 Re: Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Fri 6 Oct 14:27

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fcda, Fri 6 Oct 14:22

Didn`t think you could charge penalty attempts.


Thinking about it, you may be right 🤔😂 but you 100% can conversions haha

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 Re: Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 6 Oct 15:33

If the conversion attempt had hit the ground before the opposition player kicked it would the ball have been deemed to be `dead` before he touched it?

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 Re: Rugby `own goal`
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Fri 6 Oct 16:34

Quote:

wee eck, Fri 6 Oct 15:33

If the conversion attempt had hit the ground before the opposition player kicked it would the ball have been deemed to be `dead` before he touched it?


Yes
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