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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 2 Sep 08:49
I must confess I`d never heard of this until last weekend when my daughter and her husband queued online for Oasis tickets. They abandoned it when cheapest tickets rose to £350.
And what about those tickets which were being re-sold at nearly £6000? Should there be a law to stop people being exploited like this or should those who can afford to pay such crazy money be allowed to do so?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 2 Sep 09:53
I can see both sides of the argument. But I much prefer a fixed price. I thought they made it illegal for the ticket sellers to ramp pricing? So perhaps they are now arguing that if the band is benefiting from the dynamic pricing it`s OK
They do it with travel and hotels too....but perhaps not to this extent.
More than happy to miss out at those prices. Always annoys me when people build a massive fan base and make a career out of it, but then exploit the same people after.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 2 Sep 10:03
A phone-in on the subject has just ended on Radio Scotland. There are some horror stories. One woman wanted tickets for Edinburgh but couldn`t get them so switched to Dublin where she got tickets at face price but then was quoted £800 a night for a hotel room!
Does all the extra profit go to the band or is it shared amongst the various interested parties?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 2 Sep 14:41
It`s supply and demand but also clear greed. I seriously disagree with having shows in enormous venues and charging through the nose for it. Each to their own, but I`ve no desire to pay hundreds of pounds to be miles to from the band and swamped by thousands of others.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 2 Sep 16:27
I listened to Simon Calder on Radio Scotland - he explained that the airline industry were originally behind dynamic pricing.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0022js9
From the 1:28:40 mark.
Ryanair use a benchmark called Seat Factor Active,Yield Passive - first time I`ve heard this term.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 2 Sep 18:04
Think it`s the range of pricing that`s the difference here.
I understand why folk want to fill their planes up enough to be profitable and then increase pricing to see if they can make more.
I think this is different as they are bound to be making a mint with the ramping.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Mon 2 Sep 22:52
I have tickets through the pre-sale due to my business being in the industry.
What are we getting here? At this point in proceedings and taking the most cynical viewpoint it seems to be Liam joining the High Flying Birds and them doing Oasis covers. We might get an appearance by Bonehead, but given Gem is on the HFB roster will he be lost in the mix?
As a veteran of Maine Road, Knebworth and Wembley as well as sharing a support slot with them before they were signed if it were not easy access to tickets that will ultimately be a tax-right off I doubt I`d be putting in any of the effort mentioned above or indeed parting with the cash due to being a rip-off.
if it were a simple case of pleasure rather than business I`m sure I`d be letting younger folk in my business go rather than myself as they seem transfixed by this second coming although for the majority of them they know very little to the point I had blank expressions when I said they got rid of their Ringo for a series of Jimmie Nichols when highlighting the merits of Tony McCarroll.
I`m hoping by the time the concerts roll round next year my misanthropy will have dissipated somewhat and I`ll enjoy attending the fundraisers for Noel`s Superyacht.
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Mon 2 Sep 23:26
Saw them once, at the corn exchange in Edinburgh. Absolutely awful. They couldn`t have look more bored or wanting to be anywhere else but on stage, if they tried.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 3 Sep 09:20
I will never understand the hype about Oasis. I think they are utter crap and thoroughly dislikeable people.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 3 Sep 14:07
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PARrot, Tue 3 Sept 09:20
I will never understand the hype about Oasis. I think they are utter crap and thoroughly dislikeable people.
Agree. No better than loads of indie bands at the time but they seemed to win the popular vote by being seen as representing the working class. Song wise Pulp, Blur, Radiohead, James, OCS, Stereophonics and many others have far stronger back catalogues.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Tue 3 Sep 15:14
If they’d been around in the Sixties you’d never of heard of them. In fact we’ve only ever heard them because they copied so much stuff from that era.
And they’re boring with it
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Tue 3 Sep 17:24
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Topic Originator: jake89 like
Date: Tue 3 Sep 14:07
Agree. No better than loads of indie bands at the time but they seemed to win the popular vote by being seen as representing the working class. Song wise Pulp, Blur, Radiohead, James, OCS, Stereophonics and many others have far stronger back catalogues.
Those bands fans will never be the victims of "dynamic pricing" because millions of people will never try to get tickets for their gigs, their songs are just not popular enough even though they do have some cracking songs.
Vox Populi.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 3 Sep 17:44
Wasn`t suggesting they would be. I was agreeing with the comment that Oasis are incredibly overrated.
I believe the likes of Ed Sheeran, who has sold twice as many records as Oasis ever have, doesn`t use dynamic pricing. It`s a massive error of judgement for the band that`s supposed to represent the common man.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 3 Sep 20:21
Karl Denver .. Frank Ifield .. Nancy Whiskey .. Petula Clark .. Ruby Murray .. Johnny Leighton .. never had dynamic pricing
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 3 Sep 22:54
Quote:
Buspasspar, Tue 3 Sept 20:21
Karl Denver .. Frank Ifield .. Nancy Whiskey .. Petula Clark .. Ruby Murray .. Johnny Leighton .. never had dynamic pricing
They never had dynamic anything
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 4 Sep 07:40
How much money do Ticketmaster make from admin fees, when the majority print off their own tickets?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 4 Sep 08:23
They still provide the selling platform regardless of if the ticket is posted or not.
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Wed 4 Sep 08:46
Quote:
red-star-par, Tue 3 Sep 22:54
Quote:
Buspasspar, Tue 3 Sept 20:21
Karl Denver .. Frank Ifield .. Nancy Whiskey .. Petula Clark .. Ruby Murray .. Johnny Leighton .. never had dynamic pricing
They never had dynamic anything
😂
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 4 Sep 08:52
The Who
Taste
Elton John
Yes
David Bowie
Gino Washington
Thunderclap Newman
Family
Spooky Tooth
All at the Kinema Ballroom, 60p a ticket from Muirs, no dynamic pricing in those days!🤔🎶🎸🎶🎸
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 4 Sep 12:00
It`s things like gigs that show just how much we`re ripped off these days. It`s pure greed, driven in part by these venues milking it.
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Wed 4 Sep 13:28
I remember seeing motorhead for the grand sum of £5.60.
Also seen slayer for £8.00 supported by nuclear assault.
Metallica for £10.50 supported by anthrax.
What a gig that was.
First ever gig was Saxon for £4.80.
All at the playhouse Edinburgh.
Last time I seen Metallica it cost me £120 and that was a cheap ticket.
😲
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 4 Sep 13:34
I think the big 4 plus a bunch of other acts was 80 quid and that wasn`t that long ago.
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Wed 4 Sep 14:07
Gigs were cheap back in the day, but then vinyl, cassettes, and CDs were sold at exorbitant prices. Nowadays, streaming music is basically free.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 4 Sep 15:38
Streaming is only free if you accept adverts and limitations. I used YouTube music and I`m sure it`s £12.99pm which is basically a CD per month.
I`d imagine the costs for streaming are far lower than the cost of making up CDs/vinyls and tapes and distributing them to shops.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 4 Sep 15:41
Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 3 Sep 22:54
Quote:
Buspasspar, Tue 3 Sept 20:21
Karl Denver .. Frank Ifield .. Nancy Whiskey .. Petula Clark .. Ruby Murray .. Johnny Leighton .. never had dynamic pricing
They never had dynamic anything
Made me laugh rsp
I’ll remember you rsp and Johnny will remember me when your on the freight train heading downtown wi yer Wimoweh looking for Danny boy .. :-)
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Wed 4 Sep 16:53
Quote:
widtink, Wed 4 Sept 13:28
I remember seeing motorhead for the grand sum of £5.60.
Also seen slayer for £8.00 supported by nuclear assault.
Metallica for £10.50 supported by anthrax.
What a gig that was.
First ever gig was Saxon for £4.80.
All at the playhouse Edinburgh.
Last time I seen Metallica it cost me £120 and that was a cheap ticket.
😲
You got done for the Metallica gig , with Anthrax mate. My ticket was £4.50 😉
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 4 Sep 19:37
Oasis are trying to dissociate themselves from the controversy-
In a statement issued to PA Media, the band said: "It needs to be made clear that Oasis leave decisions on ticketing and pricing entirely to their promoters and management."
They added they had "at no time had any awareness that dynamic pricing was going to be used" in the sale of tickets for the initial dates.
The band`s statement came as they announced two further live shows at Wembley Stadium on 27 and 28 September 2025.
Oasis said tickets for the new dates would be handed out via a "staggered, invitation-only ballot process".
Applications for the ballot for new dates will only be open to those who were unsuccessful in the initial Ticketmaster sale, they added.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 4 Sep 19:45
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 4 Sept 19:37
Oasis are trying to dissociate themselves from the controversy-
In a statement issued to PA Media, the band said: "It needs to be made clear that Oasis leave decisions on ticketing and pricing entirely to their promoters and management."
They added they had "at no time had any awareness that dynamic pricing was going to be used" in the sale of tickets for the initial dates.
The band`s statement came as they announced two further live shows at Wembley Stadium on 27 and 28 September 2025.
Oasis said tickets for the new dates would be handed out via a "staggered, invitation-only ballot process".
Applications for the ballot for new dates will only be open to those who were unsuccessful in the initial Ticketmaster sale, they added.
I would have thought that it was the band`s duty to be aware of what was going on since it reflects badly on them, rather than washing their hands off it with that bland statement.
I asked in the OP whether folk thought laws should be drafted to stop or at least limit the exploitation of music fans or whether that would be a step closer to the Nanny State, or whether those daft enough to shell out such obscene sums should just be allowed to get on with it.
Well, what do you think?
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Thu 05 Sep 06:30)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 4 Sep 20:17
Yeah, they had NO idea whatsoever 😂
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Wed 4 Sep 21:46
If the nanny state wants to get involved in regulating ticket pricing, they should probably start with train fares rather than concert tickets.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 4 Sep 21:48
Someone needs to pay for the train driver pay increase!
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Thu 5 Sep 00:01
Quote:
Big T Par, Wed 4 Sept 16:53
Quote:
widtink, Wed 4 Sept 13:28
I remember seeing motorhead for the grand sum of £5.60.
Also seen slayer for £8.00 supported by nuclear assault.
Metallica for £10.50 supported by anthrax.
What a gig that was.
First ever gig was Saxon for £4.80.
All at the playhouse Edinburgh.
Last time I seen Metallica it cost me £120 and that was a cheap ticket.
😲
You got done for the Metallica gig , with Anthrax mate. My ticket was £4.50 😉
Ach it was row D so I wasn`t complaining.
If course , as soon as the lights went down I was suddenly in row A.
It was worth it just to see Cliff
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Thu 5 Sep 00:30
Quote:
widtink, Thu 5 Sept 00:01
Quote:
Big T Par, Wed 4 Sept 16:53
Quote:
widtink, Wed 4 Sept 13:28
I remember seeing motorhead for the grand sum of £5.60.
Also seen slayer for £8.00 supported by nuclear assault.
Metallica for £10.50 supported by anthrax.
What a gig that was.
First ever gig was Saxon for £4.80.
All at the playhouse Edinburgh.
Last time I seen Metallica it cost me £120 and that was a cheap ticket.
😲
You got done for the Metallica gig , with Anthrax mate. My ticket was £4.50 😉
Ach it was row D so I wasn`t complaining.
If course , as soon as the lights went down I was suddenly in row A.
It was worth it just to see Cliff
Did you pay a tout? I was in row A, after camping out for a ticket and got mega lucky. Was mental that night, but not as mental, a week later down in Newcastle. They played the Mayfair and it was absolute mayhem. Fckin amazing. A week later, Cliff was dead 😔😔
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Thu 5 Sep 04:58
Quote:
Big T Par, Thu 5 Sept 00:30
Quote:
widtink, Thu 5 Sept 00:01
Quote:
Big T Par, Wed 4 Sept 16:53
Quote:
widtink, Wed 4 Sept 13:28
I remember seeing motorhead for the grand sum of £5.60.
Also seen slayer for £8.00 supported by nuclear assault.
Metallica for £10.50 supported by anthrax.
What a gig that was.
First ever gig was Saxon for £4.80.
All at the playhouse Edinburgh.
Last time I seen Metallica it cost me £120 and that was a cheap ticket.
😲
You got done for the Metallica gig , with Anthrax mate. My ticket was £4.50 😉
Ach it was row D so I wasn`t complaining.
If course , as soon as the lights went down I was suddenly in row A.
It was worth it just to see Cliff
Did you pay a tout? I was in row A, after camping out for a ticket and got mega lucky. Was mental that night, but not as mental, a week later down in Newcastle. They played the Mayfair and it was absolute mayhem. Fckin amazing. A week later, Cliff was dead 😔😔
Can`t honestly remember how I got the ticket or who I got it from.
I was still at high school I remember that much.
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Thu 5 Sep 07:26
Not that it matters a jot mate, but all the tickets were £4.50. Still, paying more than double the original price, is scandalous 😅
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Thu 5 Sep 11:39
Ticketmaster in some cases are controlling the supply/demand of the tickets by giving customers a limited timescale to purchase.
This needs addressing.
At one venue I was offered "Platinum VIP Seats" for Bruce Springsteen with 2 minutes to accept/reject. I accepted at £650 per ticket.
Later, I researched what I had purchased expecting some form of hospitality tickets and was shocked to discover that "Platinum VIP" was their terminology for in-demand ticketing. I had only purchased two tickets with no added benefit and under their rules could not request a refund.
Luckily, I found a loophole and requested a refund from my Amex under the "cooling off" rules and was successfully refunded.
Then I purchased two hospitality tickets with food, drink and early/late access to the same event for £200 each cheaper.
Trust me, Ticketmaster need to be brought to task.
DunfyDave
Post Edited (Thu 05 Sep 11:41)
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 5 Sep 11:52
Too much of this "it wasn`t me guv"
Just wait on Grenfell prosecutions, if we live long enough!🤔🤬🤬🤬
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 5 Sep 18:52
It cost 25p to watch Pars cup winners v Celtic champions elect April 1968 - now it’s £24 - dynamic pricing times 96 !!!
Post Edited (Thu 05 Sep 18:53)
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Thu 5 Sep 19:34
That would have been pre-decimalisation though, and average salaries were around 1200
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 5 Sep 20:20
Quote:
ipswichpar, Thu 5 Sept 19:34
That would have been pre-decimalisation though, and average salaries were around 1200
No doubt your money went a lot further in 1968, Ipswich - if memory serves, a Mars bar cost a tanner (sixpence) and 25p was 5/- (shillings) in old money. That would have bought you 10 Mars bars. How much would that set you back today?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 5 Sep 20:31
Quote:
GG Riva, Thu 5 Sept 20:20
Quote:
ipswichpar, Thu 5 Sept 19:34
That would have been pre-decimalisation though, and average salaries were around 1200
No doubt your money went a lot further in 1968, Ipswich - if memory serves, a Mars bar cost a tanner (sixpence) and 25p was 5/- (shillings) in old money. That would have bought you 10 Mars bars. How much would that set you back today?
2/6 for a pint of beer 1968!
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 5 Sep 20:49
That was lager LA .. Beer or heavy as we called it was 2/- so 8 pints of lager or 10 pints of heavy for £1
A fish supper was 1/6d .. and a gallon of esso extra was 4/3d
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 5 Sep 21:18
Quote:
ipswichpar, Thu 5 Sep 19:34
That would have been pre-decimalisation though, and average salaries were around 1200
Average salary 1968 was £25 - therefore walk up admission in Scottish top league was 1/100 of that.
Fast forward that to 2024 and you’d need to earn £2400 for a visit to EEP to maintain comparison.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Thu 5 Sep 21:40
Yes, I was talking annual not weekly.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Thu 5 Sep 21:51
About 80p for a single Mars bar isn`t it?
As always, clever with their marketing.... I think you can buy a 4 pack for about 1.50 but they are smaller.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 5 Sep 23:23
Quote:
ipswichpar, Thu 5 Sep 21:51
About 80p for a single Mars bar isn`t it?
As always, clever with their marketing.... I think you can buy a 4 pack for about 1.50 but they are smaller.
Yeah and a single Mars bar now is about the same as half a duo 😂
Prices and sizes have been a farce these last 2/3 years - cat food, for example, is glaringly obvious - price has increased 200% for both wet and dry boxes yet packets have decreased in size by 20%. How this isn’t regulated is beyond a joke.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 6 Sep 07:43
Quote:
ipswichpar, Thu 5 Sep 21:40
Yes, I was talking annual not weekly.
Sorry - didn’t twig.
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Fri 6 Sep 10:05
Another angle for the farce with Ticketmaster is the ease that bots seem to get tickets faster than humans and re-sell them on ViaGoGo for astronomical prices.
My wife has just purchased two tickets for Wet Wet Wet at the Alhambra in Dunfermline from someone in the Czech Republic and paid for in Czech currency.
It may just be a coincidence 🤔
DunfyDave
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 7 Sep 14:54
Quote:
Big T Par, Mon 2 Sep 23:26
Saw them once, at the corn exchange in Edinburgh. Absolutely awful. They couldn`t have look more bored or wanting to be anywhere else but on stage, if they tried.
Edinburgh Corn Exchange was a brilliant venue back in the day as well! Close to the stage, loud, close to the band. So much better than seeing these bands in arenas or stadiums.
Seen Foo Fighters there (£20 if anyone is wondering) They had “and you will know us by the trail of dead” supporting them.
Absolutely outstanding night! Both bands were just outrageous 🔥
COYP
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 7 Sep 14:56
Once saw a guy try and throw a pint whilst watching Them Crooked Vultures at Corn Exchange. Unfortunately for him he was stood on the edge of the bit with the lower ceiling so his pint came back on him 😂
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