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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 16 Mar 09:43
What on Earth has happened to the current generation of kids? Reading that two 14 year olds ended up in hospital after buying ketamine from the bellends who hang about the bus station/Tesco. Also reading kids went through the park in Lochgelly snapping all the saplings recently planted, kids in Kirkcaldy set fire to the grass around Dunnikier golf club and 40(!) kids in Glenrothes raised the Food Warehouse.
It`s obviously not all kids but I don`t remember anything as bad as this when I was a kid. The "bad" kids might have smashed the occasional window at school or smoked some weed but this all seems next level. Is it the lack of hope for the future? Is it the closure of youth centres? What`s wrong with these bams, and where are the parents?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 16 Mar 09:56
Parents just not parenting really. One story of a kid in Cowdenbeath who caused chaos, mother said they would be dealt with, caught the next day causing chaos again……
Im actually fearful of my daughter growing up in this place now as its every day theres something. And it’s not just kids either tbf - some adults are just as bad.
Removal of youth custodial sentences for smaller crimes also not helping the police - under 16s are effectively just carted home and left with the parents unless they murder someone.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 16 Mar 10:57
The last line of your post, Dave, is what my office has to face every Monday morning when the police messages come in from the weekends.
It’s very sad, and even sadder when you learn their families have grown up the same way; not enough education or care to pass on to their children, and the result is youth detention centres and, ultimately, prison. Responsibility is bypassed and the list of previous convictions grow longer. I don’t know how it can change.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 16 Mar 11:37
Prices will rise, politicians will philander, you too, will get old
And when you do, you`ll fantasize that when you were young
Prices were reasonable, politicians were noble
And children respected their elders.
Jake I don`t know your circumstances when you were growing up, and it`s certainly nothing to be ashamed of if you grew up in a better environment and ran in more acceptable circles, but if the worst the wrong un`s you knew when you were young did was break a few windows and smoke some weed then you weren`t seeing the reality in a good chunk of society. For all the reasons Buffy notes as to why some kids today are off the rails are the same reasons they were off the rails back in the 80s and 90s which would have been the same reasons you had casual and razor gangs going about in the years before then as well.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 16 Mar 12:17
Perhaps I was just an innocent soul, TOWK? I remember things being vandalised etc but it seems off the scale nowadays. Nice things get done, people destroy them and then complain the place is a "**** hole".
Maybe it`s simply that there wasn`t as much social media around to share what`s going on?
Depressing futures for many kids, sadly.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 16 Mar 13:05
Jake, I too grew up unaware of crime outside the news on tv or a headline in the Press. For that I’m grateful to my parents.
I didn’t know what real crime was until I stepped into legal work, and going from civil to criminal has been an eye opener, and takes my breath away nearly every day (and not in a good way, either). We can only do so much and hope people see the error of their ways, but it’s sometimes ingrained and they don’t know any other way of life.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sun 16 Mar 15:11
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sun 16 Mar 11:37
Prices will rise, politicians will philander, you too, will get old
And when you do, you`ll fantasize that when you were young
Prices were reasonable, politicians were noble
And children respected their elders.
Jake I don`t know your circumstances when you were growing up, and it`s certainly nothing to be ashamed of if you grew up in a better environment and ran in more acceptable circles, but if the worst the wrong un`s you knew when you were young did was break a few windows and smoke some weed then you weren`t seeing the reality in a good chunk of society. For all the reasons Buffy notes as to why some kids today are off the rails are the same reasons they were off the rails back in the 80s and 90s which would have been the same reasons you had casual and razor gangs going about in the years before then as well.
Absolutely correct TOWK.
I’ve never got this rose tinted view that kids were any better in the 80’s/90’s and definitely not in the 70’s when punk was exploding on the scene.
The point about casuals is spot on as well.
They terrorised innocent people minding their own business and today’s neds remind of them.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 16 Mar 15:43
Christ I didn`t think I had a sheltered life but clearly I did...or you lots are a bunch of bams 😂
All I remember is most of the "bad" kids (and a fair few decent ones too) leaving after 4th year. Most of them weren`t even that bad but I have since seen one who clearly ended up a drug user and another who is still the wild kid he was 20 years ago.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sun 16 Mar 16:05
Yes,grew up 60sand 70s. There were some wild characters then,but now you can you can be standing in the bus station,and get abused for minding your own business.A good old cop would have sorted them out,a slap round the lug,would have sufficed.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 16 Mar 16:16
Quote:
jake89, Sun 16 Mar 15:43
Christ I didn`t think I had a sheltered life but clearly I did...or you lots are a bunch of bams 😂
All I remember is most of the "bad" kids (and a fair few decent ones too) leaving after 4th year. Most of them weren`t even that bad but I have since seen one who clearly ended up a drug user and another who is still the wild kid he was 20 years ago.
I grew up in your generation Jake, clearly we were in the middle of all the bams 😂😂
More fires set today by two teens on ebikes at Ravenscraig Park……..
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sun 16 Mar 21:18
A lot of the wee dicks that hang about up town giving folk cheek when they are with their wee gang, really just need a good kicking when they are on their own. It might sound harsh, but it`s that dose of reality that will do them good in the long run
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 16 Mar 22:29
Two more wee bams smashing in all the windows at McDonalds Asda tonight, after causing chaos in the shop…….parents wont give a toss though
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 17 Mar 01:56
Social media and everyone and their dug having a camera phone will make the ASBO behavior much more obvious.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 17 Mar 10:13
"Two more wee bams smashing in all the windows at McDonalds Asda tonight, after causing chaos in the shop…….parents wont give a toss though"
lost count the number of times ive been in either Asda after 8pm and witness we b@ssas running amok, goading security, tipping stuff off shelves etc. Know fine well that if I lay a hand on them and chuck them out by the scruff of the neck it would be me that ends up on the wrong side of the law for assulat of a youth etc.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 17 Mar 12:24
That ASDA is notorious for bother. I`ve ended up pushing my trolley through them and telling them to go home when they`ve been bothering the staff. Minimum wage and having to deal with those idiots. I was there last night when it happened. Didn`t see or hear the kids but heard a bang. I think they lobbed a trolley at the wall or windows. Spotted a Pars fans car in the car park too so hopefully they weren`t in McDonald`s when it happened.
These kids seem to be known in the area. I assume the police can`t do much. If I did anything like that my parents would go straight through me and I`d be grounded. I imagine if you`re happy goading staff and smashing windows you`re not the type to take a telling though. The sad thing is, they might not be up in court for it now, but in a few years they`ll be in jail for more serious crimes. Throwing their lives away. The sad thing is so many parents pass down the attitude of "too thick, too useless" and effectively make kids this way.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 25 Mar 19:26
Fire raising alive and healthy tonight…….2 bush fires set by kids in Cowdenbeath and at the Meadies in the last couple or hours by the wee angels.
At what point does civilisation say “f**k this” and just deal with the wee sh*tes themself?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 25 Mar 20:58
Someone started a fire below the power lines that run through Calais Muir and the 2A had to be stopped earlier due to little twats from the high school.
More worrying is the story about the 13 year old (now 14) who killed a 16 year old over £50.
To make matters worse, police retention levels are down and teachers are quitting the profession. One of my friends who is a high school teacher in Edinburgh said they feel more like a social worker than a teacher nowadays.
It`s easy to go with an "SNP bad" piece but this is a UK wide issue. I know it maybe sounds daft, but we need to bring back those adverts that HEBS used to do for drugs, cigarettes and alcohol.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 25 Mar 21:04
Another fire set on the playing fields outside Park Road in Rosyth too. The comments in Fife Jammers make a point - are the kids trying to out do each other and get on the page?
Not just fires - kids climbing all over petrol stations roofs in KDY today and another one getting lifted at KDY bus station too kicking off.
I seen an article today about a teacher that left the job to become an hgv driver because it was less hassle.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 25 Mar 21:38
Simplest solution would be to round them up, take them to the station and keep them there until a parent of guardian cal collect them.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 25 Mar 22:03
Let`s face it, they can do what they want, burn down hedges, schools, vandalise cars, trash shops, stab people, safe in the knowledge nothing will happen to them. Some of them need a good fkn hiding
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 25 Mar 23:26
That Fife Jammers needs shut down. It`s an absolute binfire
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 26 Mar 05:36
Going on the comments on FJL, the fire setting trend is one going about on TikTok at the minute……I mean, wow, its just staggering how easily influenced kids are these days.
I agree with you too da_no_1 - it is useful when mentioning road closures etc (without the need for pictures) but the rest of it is an absolute state. Seems to have become a beacon of free speech and local gossip though for some…….
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 26 Mar 07:19
Some of Fife Jammers isn`t helpful like showing someone being arrested. The fires stuff just gives attention.
Seems last night some meds were attacking the police van in Inverkeithing as they were getting arrested while neds in Cowdenbeath were lobbing bottles of Buckie at people riding horses. Honestly don`t know what`s gone wrong with these beasts. Absolutely zero hope for the future, or do they already have that low confidence of a positive life? Depressing.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 26 Mar 20:19
I seen a post on Facebook from councillor Sam Steele, "A resident posted some very disturbing news on the Carnock and Gowkhall FB page this morning. The Cenotaph has been vandalised, with all the wreaths being set on fire and thrown in the burn.
I had also been told that a group had been hanging around in the cemetery during the past two evenings.
I`ve contacted our Lead Officer at Safer Communities and requested that the area is added to their patrol matrix, which they have agreed.
This will obviously not help what has already occurred, but hopefully will prevent anything further taking place."
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 26 Mar 20:44
More fire raising tonight including Canmore Golf Course…..parents are just as bad to be honest.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 26 Mar 23:00
They tried to set fires to the trees at Pitreavie golf course too.
Just on Friday, a motorbike damaged the 18th green. This was 330pm and as you can imagine, it’s right in front of the clubhouse.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 26 Mar 23:18
Golf courses are struggling enough as it is without this nonsense. They`re also one of the few places nowadays who offer affordable membership for under 18s. Some will even have stocks of old clubs for those who can`t afford to buy a set.
One of the kids who was chucking bottles at the horses in Cowdenbeath was identified by his step mum so let`s hope the idiot has learned his lesson. Could easily have killed one of the girls or harmed the horses.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Thu 27 Mar 10:38
know the greenkeeper from up at kinross and he posts at least once per week about vandalism on the course
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 29 Mar 19:11
Set alight a box of cereal in Duloch Tesco this afternoon. Whole shop evacuated and fire brigade turned up. Quite a bit of damage.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 29 Mar 22:29
Quote:
jake89, Sat 29 Mar 19:11
Set alight a box of cereal in Duloch Tesco this afternoon. Whole shop evacuated and fire brigade turned up. Quite a bit of damage.
Really hope it was caught on camera and they are dealt with as strongly as the law allows for that kind of incident. This kind of behaviour seems to be escalating.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 30 Mar 09:14
Quote:
Jeffery, Sat 29 Mar 22:29
Quote:
jake89, Sat 29 Mar 19:11
Set alight a box of cereal in Duloch Tesco this afternoon. Whole shop evacuated and fire brigade turned up. Quite a bit of damage.
Really hope it was caught on camera and they are dealt with as strongly as the law allows for that kind of incident. This kind of behaviour seems to be escalating.
Surely they have them on the store cctv? Quite possibly the same culprits setting fire to trees in Duloch and Pitreavie ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Sun 30 Mar 09:14)
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 30 Mar 09:28
The cctv will have caught them but with faces covered I`d expect.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 30 Mar 10:36
Quote:
JTH123, Sun 30 Mar 09:28
The cctv will have caught them but with faces covered I`d expect.
The police have identified who did it. It all seems part of this stupid TikTok trend. Starting a fire in a wood or field is one thing, doing it in a shop filled with people is unbelievably stupid, especially in an aisle filled with probably the most combustible foods! Perhaps getting dramatic, but that`s an example of intentionally putting lives at risk. You can tell who the local idiots are on Facebook based on the laugh emojis. Absolutely incredible.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 30 Mar 13:25
Thats something at least Jake. My laddie worked in the McDs about a year ago and was quite happy to be in the kitchen because of the goings on downstairs.
Thet had to lock the doors some evenings as the Police stopped coming out and told them to organise their own security.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Mon 31 Mar 07:51
Quote:
JTH123, Sun 30 Mar 09:28
The cctv will have caught them but with faces covered I`d expect.
50 year old man arrested seemingly!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 31 Mar 07:57
Take it back on it being kids. What a plonker!
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 31 Mar 10:51
50 year old man? Why would he even do that?
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 31 Mar 15:33
Quote:
Alter Ego, Mon 31 Mar 10:51
50 year old man? Why would he even do that?
He`s got history:
Threatened neighbour with a meat cleaver
Abused numerous social workers
Slashed tyres on a car
I`d guess he needs support and isn`t getting it on the outside. It`s an absolute disgrace that often the only way to quickly get support is to get put in a prison.
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Mon 31 Mar 15:58
Quote:
Alter Ego, Mon 31 Mar 10:51
50 year old man? Why would he even do that?
Someone pashed on his cornflakes?
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 31 Mar 16:51
Not a lot of support inside either, Jake, sadly.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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