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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 16 Mar 09:43
What on Earth has happened to the current generation of kids? Reading that two 14 year olds ended up in hospital after buying ketamine from the bellends who hang about the bus station/Tesco. Also reading kids went through the park in Lochgelly snapping all the saplings recently planted, kids in Kirkcaldy set fire to the grass around Dunnikier golf club and 40(!) kids in Glenrothes raised the Food Warehouse.
It`s obviously not all kids but I don`t remember anything as bad as this when I was a kid. The "bad" kids might have smashed the occasional window at school or smoked some weed but this all seems next level. Is it the lack of hope for the future? Is it the closure of youth centres? What`s wrong with these bams, and where are the parents?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 16 Mar 09:56
Parents just not parenting really. One story of a kid in Cowdenbeath who caused chaos, mother said they would be dealt with, caught the next day causing chaos again……
Im actually fearful of my daughter growing up in this place now as its every day theres something. And it’s not just kids either tbf - some adults are just as bad.
Removal of youth custodial sentences for smaller crimes also not helping the police - under 16s are effectively just carted home and left with the parents unless they murder someone.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 16 Mar 10:57
The last line of your post, Dave, is what my office has to face every Monday morning when the police messages come in from the weekends.
It’s very sad, and even sadder when you learn their families have grown up the same way; not enough education or care to pass on to their children, and the result is youth detention centres and, ultimately, prison. Responsibility is bypassed and the list of previous convictions grow longer. I don’t know how it can change.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 16 Mar 11:37
Prices will rise, politicians will philander, you too, will get old
And when you do, you`ll fantasize that when you were young
Prices were reasonable, politicians were noble
And children respected their elders.
Jake I don`t know your circumstances when you were growing up, and it`s certainly nothing to be ashamed of if you grew up in a better environment and ran in more acceptable circles, but if the worst the wrong un`s you knew when you were young did was break a few windows and smoke some weed then you weren`t seeing the reality in a good chunk of society. For all the reasons Buffy notes as to why some kids today are off the rails are the same reasons they were off the rails back in the 80s and 90s which would have been the same reasons you had casual and razor gangs going about in the years before then as well.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 16 Mar 12:17
Perhaps I was just an innocent soul, TOWK? I remember things being vandalised etc but it seems off the scale nowadays. Nice things get done, people destroy them and then complain the place is a "**** hole".
Maybe it`s simply that there wasn`t as much social media around to share what`s going on?
Depressing futures for many kids, sadly.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 16 Mar 13:05
Jake, I too grew up unaware of crime outside the news on tv or a headline in the Press. For that I’m grateful to my parents.
I didn’t know what real crime was until I stepped into legal work, and going from civil to criminal has been an eye opener, and takes my breath away nearly every day (and not in a good way, either). We can only do so much and hope people see the error of their ways, but it’s sometimes ingrained and they don’t know any other way of life.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sun 16 Mar 15:11
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sun 16 Mar 11:37
Prices will rise, politicians will philander, you too, will get old
And when you do, you`ll fantasize that when you were young
Prices were reasonable, politicians were noble
And children respected their elders.
Jake I don`t know your circumstances when you were growing up, and it`s certainly nothing to be ashamed of if you grew up in a better environment and ran in more acceptable circles, but if the worst the wrong un`s you knew when you were young did was break a few windows and smoke some weed then you weren`t seeing the reality in a good chunk of society. For all the reasons Buffy notes as to why some kids today are off the rails are the same reasons they were off the rails back in the 80s and 90s which would have been the same reasons you had casual and razor gangs going about in the years before then as well.
Absolutely correct TOWK.
I’ve never got this rose tinted view that kids were any better in the 80’s/90’s and definitely not in the 70’s when punk was exploding on the scene.
The point about casuals is spot on as well.
They terrorised innocent people minding their own business and today’s neds remind of them.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 16 Mar 15:43
Christ I didn`t think I had a sheltered life but clearly I did...or you lots are a bunch of bams 😂
All I remember is most of the "bad" kids (and a fair few decent ones too) leaving after 4th year. Most of them weren`t even that bad but I have since seen one who clearly ended up a drug user and another who is still the wild kid he was 20 years ago.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sun 16 Mar 16:05
Yes,grew up 60sand 70s. There were some wild characters then,but now you can you can be standing in the bus station,and get abused for minding your own business.A good old cop would have sorted them out,a slap round the lug,would have sufficed.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 16 Mar 16:16
Quote:
jake89, Sun 16 Mar 15:43
Christ I didn`t think I had a sheltered life but clearly I did...or you lots are a bunch of bams 😂
All I remember is most of the "bad" kids (and a fair few decent ones too) leaving after 4th year. Most of them weren`t even that bad but I have since seen one who clearly ended up a drug user and another who is still the wild kid he was 20 years ago.
I grew up in your generation Jake, clearly we were in the middle of all the bams 😂😂
More fires set today by two teens on ebikes at Ravenscraig Park……..
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sun 16 Mar 21:18
A lot of the wee dicks that hang about up town giving folk cheek when they are with their wee gang, really just need a good kicking when they are on their own. It might sound harsh, but it`s that dose of reality that will do them good in the long run
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 16 Mar 22:29
Two more wee bams smashing in all the windows at McDonalds Asda tonight, after causing chaos in the shop…….parents wont give a toss though
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 17 Mar 01:56
Social media and everyone and their dug having a camera phone will make the ASBO behavior much more obvious.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 17 Mar 10:13
"Two more wee bams smashing in all the windows at McDonalds Asda tonight, after causing chaos in the shop…….parents wont give a toss though"
lost count the number of times ive been in either Asda after 8pm and witness we b@ssas running amok, goading security, tipping stuff off shelves etc. Know fine well that if I lay a hand on them and chuck them out by the scruff of the neck it would be me that ends up on the wrong side of the law for assulat of a youth etc.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 17 Mar 12:24
That ASDA is notorious for bother. I`ve ended up pushing my trolley through them and telling them to go home when they`ve been bothering the staff. Minimum wage and having to deal with those idiots. I was there last night when it happened. Didn`t see or hear the kids but heard a bang. I think they lobbed a trolley at the wall or windows. Spotted a Pars fans car in the car park too so hopefully they weren`t in McDonald`s when it happened.
These kids seem to be known in the area. I assume the police can`t do much. If I did anything like that my parents would go straight through me and I`d be grounded. I imagine if you`re happy goading staff and smashing windows you`re not the type to take a telling though. The sad thing is, they might not be up in court for it now, but in a few years they`ll be in jail for more serious crimes. Throwing their lives away. The sad thing is so many parents pass down the attitude of "too thick, too useless" and effectively make kids this way.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 25 Mar 19:26
Fire raising alive and healthy tonight…….2 bush fires set by kids in Cowdenbeath and at the Meadies in the last couple or hours by the wee angels.
At what point does civilisation say “f**k this” and just deal with the wee sh*tes themself?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 25 Mar 20:58
Someone started a fire below the power lines that run through Calais Muir and the 2A had to be stopped earlier due to little twats from the high school.
More worrying is the story about the 13 year old (now 14) who killed a 16 year old over £50.
To make matters worse, police retention levels are down and teachers are quitting the profession. One of my friends who is a high school teacher in Edinburgh said they feel more like a social worker than a teacher nowadays.
It`s easy to go with an "SNP bad" piece but this is a UK wide issue. I know it maybe sounds daft, but we need to bring back those adverts that HEBS used to do for drugs, cigarettes and alcohol.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 25 Mar 21:04
Another fire set on the playing fields outside Park Road in Rosyth too. The comments in Fife Jammers make a point - are the kids trying to out do each other and get on the page?
Not just fires - kids climbing all over petrol stations roofs in KDY today and another one getting lifted at KDY bus station too kicking off.
I seen an article today about a teacher that left the job to become an hgv driver because it was less hassle.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 25 Mar 21:38
Simplest solution would be to round them up, take them to the station and keep them there until a parent of guardian cal collect them.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 25 Mar 22:03
Let`s face it, they can do what they want, burn down hedges, schools, vandalise cars, trash shops, stab people, safe in the knowledge nothing will happen to them. Some of them need a good fkn hiding
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 25 Mar 23:26
That Fife Jammers needs shut down. It`s an absolute binfire
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 26 Mar 05:36
Going on the comments on FJL, the fire setting trend is one going about on TikTok at the minute……I mean, wow, its just staggering how easily influenced kids are these days.
I agree with you too da_no_1 - it is useful when mentioning road closures etc (without the need for pictures) but the rest of it is an absolute state. Seems to have become a beacon of free speech and local gossip though for some…….
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 26 Mar 07:19
Some of Fife Jammers isn`t helpful like showing someone being arrested. The fires stuff just gives attention.
Seems last night some meds were attacking the police van in Inverkeithing as they were getting arrested while neds in Cowdenbeath were lobbing bottles of Buckie at people riding horses. Honestly don`t know what`s gone wrong with these beasts. Absolutely zero hope for the future, or do they already have that low confidence of a positive life? Depressing.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 26 Mar 20:19
I seen a post on Facebook from councillor Sam Steele, "A resident posted some very disturbing news on the Carnock and Gowkhall FB page this morning. The Cenotaph has been vandalised, with all the wreaths being set on fire and thrown in the burn.
I had also been told that a group had been hanging around in the cemetery during the past two evenings.
I`ve contacted our Lead Officer at Safer Communities and requested that the area is added to their patrol matrix, which they have agreed.
This will obviously not help what has already occurred, but hopefully will prevent anything further taking place."
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 26 Mar 20:44
More fire raising tonight including Canmore Golf Course…..parents are just as bad to be honest.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 26 Mar 23:00
They tried to set fires to the trees at Pitreavie golf course too.
Just on Friday, a motorbike damaged the 18th green. This was 330pm and as you can imagine, it’s right in front of the clubhouse.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 26 Mar 23:18
Golf courses are struggling enough as it is without this nonsense. They`re also one of the few places nowadays who offer affordable membership for under 18s. Some will even have stocks of old clubs for those who can`t afford to buy a set.
One of the kids who was chucking bottles at the horses in Cowdenbeath was identified by his step mum so let`s hope the idiot has learned his lesson. Could easily have killed one of the girls or harmed the horses.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Thu 27 Mar 10:38
know the greenkeeper from up at kinross and he posts at least once per week about vandalism on the course
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 29 Mar 19:11
Set alight a box of cereal in Duloch Tesco this afternoon. Whole shop evacuated and fire brigade turned up. Quite a bit of damage.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 29 Mar 22:29
Quote:
jake89, Sat 29 Mar 19:11
Set alight a box of cereal in Duloch Tesco this afternoon. Whole shop evacuated and fire brigade turned up. Quite a bit of damage.
Really hope it was caught on camera and they are dealt with as strongly as the law allows for that kind of incident. This kind of behaviour seems to be escalating.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 30 Mar 09:14
Quote:
Jeffery, Sat 29 Mar 22:29
Quote:
jake89, Sat 29 Mar 19:11
Set alight a box of cereal in Duloch Tesco this afternoon. Whole shop evacuated and fire brigade turned up. Quite a bit of damage.
Really hope it was caught on camera and they are dealt with as strongly as the law allows for that kind of incident. This kind of behaviour seems to be escalating.
Surely they have them on the store cctv? Quite possibly the same culprits setting fire to trees in Duloch and Pitreavie ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Sun 30 Mar 09:14)
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 30 Mar 09:28
The cctv will have caught them but with faces covered I`d expect.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 30 Mar 10:36
Quote:
JTH123, Sun 30 Mar 09:28
The cctv will have caught them but with faces covered I`d expect.
The police have identified who did it. It all seems part of this stupid TikTok trend. Starting a fire in a wood or field is one thing, doing it in a shop filled with people is unbelievably stupid, especially in an aisle filled with probably the most combustible foods! Perhaps getting dramatic, but that`s an example of intentionally putting lives at risk. You can tell who the local idiots are on Facebook based on the laugh emojis. Absolutely incredible.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 30 Mar 13:25
Thats something at least Jake. My laddie worked in the McDs about a year ago and was quite happy to be in the kitchen because of the goings on downstairs.
Thet had to lock the doors some evenings as the Police stopped coming out and told them to organise their own security.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Mon 31 Mar 07:51
Quote:
JTH123, Sun 30 Mar 09:28
The cctv will have caught them but with faces covered I`d expect.
50 year old man arrested seemingly!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 31 Mar 07:57
Take it back on it being kids. What a plonker!
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 31 Mar 10:51
50 year old man? Why would he even do that?
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 31 Mar 15:33
Quote:
Alter Ego, Mon 31 Mar 10:51
50 year old man? Why would he even do that?
He`s got history:
Threatened neighbour with a meat cleaver
Abused numerous social workers
Slashed tyres on a car
I`d guess he needs support and isn`t getting it on the outside. It`s an absolute disgrace that often the only way to quickly get support is to get put in a prison.
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Mon 31 Mar 15:58
Quote:
Alter Ego, Mon 31 Mar 10:51
50 year old man? Why would he even do that?
Someone pashed on his cornflakes?
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 31 Mar 16:51
Not a lot of support inside either, Jake, sadly.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: donj
Date: Mon 31 Mar 22:05
Apparently he was stealing stuff but security were on him as he was known to shoplift. He told some kids to get out as something bad was going to happen then set the fire and tried to escape by running through the staff doors.Got the full story today.
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Topic Originator: Par Dan
Date: Thu 10 Apr 16:35
Unless are you are physically willing to do something about it then pointless coming on here and yapping about it.
Only way these wee bams will learn is from a healthy kick in.
A proper going over .
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 10 Apr 22:08
Plenty more disruption today. Got to wonder what goes through their thick skulls to set fires all day.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 11 Apr 07:00
Quote:
Par Dan, Thu 10 Apr 16:35
Unless are you are physically willing to do something about it then pointless coming on here and yapping about it.
Only way these wee bams will learn is from a healthy kick in.
A proper going over .
I smell Stone Island.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 11 Apr 17:38
Quote:
Dave_1885, Thu 10 Apr 22:08
Plenty more disruption today. Got to wonder what goes through their thick skulls to set fires all day.
It`s all for attention and the idiot who runs Fife Jammers just loves giving it to them and claims it`s because people need to know about it. Why? The fires are typically in woods and presumably reported to fire service before Fife Jammers. The guy who runs FJ just loves the attention too.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Fri 11 Apr 19:44
Benarty Hill is now being targeted. It`s getting ridiculous.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 13 Apr 12:04
And now the cross monument up the town was wrecked last night!
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 13 Apr 12:47
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sun 13 Apr 12:04
And now the cross monument up the town was wrecked last night!
Do you mean the war memorial at the side of the Abbey/Palace? If true, absolutely disgusting. Someone already destroyed the Mercat Cross a couple of years ago and it`s only now getting repaired. What goes through people`s minds when they`re doing this stuff? I can understand things like nicking a traffic cone or a garden gnome, but why destroy things? Do they sit round the next day like "Mind how I trashed that monument?".
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 13 Apr 12:50
Quote:
jake89, Sun 13 Apr 12:47
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sun 13 Apr 12:04
And now the cross monument up the town was wrecked last night!
Do you mean the war memorial at the side of the Abbey/Palace? If true, absolutely disgusting. Someone already destroyed the Mercat Cross a couple of years ago and it`s only now getting repaired. What goes through people`s minds when they`re doing this stuff? I can understand things like nicking a traffic cone or a garden gnome, but why destroy things? Do they sit round the next day like "Mind how I trashed that monument?".
Nah, he means the Mercat Cross - the remaining pillar toppled and smashed in 2. Plenty bank machines there though to catch the culprit on their cameras - wouldn’t expect anything to happen though.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 13 Apr 12:55
Tbh, that could have happened from someone just swinging on it. It`s a farce it`s taken this long to organise a repair and it`s supposed to be regularly monitored. The council want to shift it down to where the gap site is anyway so they can create a wholly unnecessary and un wanted "City Square".
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 13 Apr 15:49
Is nothing sacred?
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 13 Apr 20:19
The only sacred is Chis Kanes legs at this time that need to be wrapped up until next Saturday!😅
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 13 Apr 20:48
Having seen the damage, that`s been a vehicle or something heavy dropped. Given it happened at a VERY specific time in the morning,.I`m guessing a car or van hit it.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 13 Apr 21:31
See all these wee bams going around…all it will take is to mess with the wrong person and they will regret their behaviour…
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Tue 15 Apr 08:12
another day yesterday where numerous emergency services were unable to help in actual emergency situations because another darling little cherub decided to spend hours on the roof of the school in inverkeithing.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 15 Apr 08:31
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Tue 15 Apr 08:12
another day yesterday where numerous emergency services were unable to help in actual emergency situations because another darling little cherub decided to spend hours on the roof of the school in inverkeithing.
Reportedly up there to avoid a warrant for his arrest for setting fires……also the parent saying they can’t control him. Chuck him in Polmont for 6 months but not the kids section, stick him in with the real criminals and see what happens.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 15 Apr 14:09
There’s no kids’ section in Polmont.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Aaron Labonte
Date: Tue 15 Apr 15:20
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 15 Apr 08:31
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Tue 15 Apr 08:12
another day yesterday where numerous emergency services were unable to help in actual emergency situations because another darling little cherub decided to spend hours on the roof of the school in inverkeithing.
Reportedly up there to avoid a warrant for his arrest for setting fires……also the parent saying they can’t control him. Chuck him in Polmont for 6 months but not the kids section, stick him in with the real criminals and see what happens.
It was for the fires down inverkeithing quarry. Was in the roof for 8 hours. I didn’t go to Inverkeithing but that is a pretty big building, surely can’t be easy to climb up even for an agile kid
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 15 Apr 20:19
Quote:
Aaron Labonte, Tue 15 Apr 15:20
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 15 Apr 08:31
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Tue 15 Apr 08:12
another day yesterday where numerous emergency services were unable to help in actual emergency situations because another darling little cherub decided to spend hours on the roof of the school in inverkeithing.
Reportedly up there to avoid a warrant for his arrest for setting fires……also the parent saying they can’t control him. Chuck him in Polmont for 6 months but not the kids section, stick him in with the real criminals and see what happens.
It was for the fires down inverkeithing quarry. Was in the roof for 8 hours. I didn’t go to Inverkeithing but that is a pretty big building, surely can’t be easy to climb up even for an agile kid
It was the primary school, not the high school. Think its fairly easy to access if you can climb a drain pipe.
Even better Buffy…….
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 15 Apr 20:22
People under the age of 18 are no longer being taken to YOI. Instead they are put into secure accommodation in the community with assistance.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 15 Apr 23:25
Was that a result of the two (at least) young people who ended up taking their own lives, Buffy?
These kids are thankfully in the minority but the disruption they cause is incredible. It doesn`t help when grown adults sit on Facebook giving it all "it`s just boys being boys". It also doesn`t help, as I mentioned before, that the idiot running Fife Jammers promotes it all.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Wed 16 Apr 10:16
This is maybe a generalisation but i get the feel everything we did (speaking as someone in their 40s) seems to have been accelerated 2-3 years earlier down the line with this generation.
We did have bams, wrong uns and all the rest but where as you`d maybe hear about folk dabbling with a bit of weed or drinking at 15 it`s now a fair bit younger.
Even in terms of my daughter growing up and being aware of things, girls seems to be actively conscious of things like beauty products and makeup a lot earlier than when i was younger and thus looking a lot older from an early age (dance classes endorsing spray tans, eye lashes and full faces of makeup to U10`s doesn`t help but that`s another story).
I think the fact there is pretty much unfiltered access to content online - avdertising included - on tap 24/7 that has made this shift. Kids are much more aware of things we weren`t and to a point desensitized to a lot of things long before they have the maturity or emotional intelligence to properly deal with it.
I remember someone at high school getting the Jolly Rodger Anarchist Cookbook and it was huge deal. Nowadays i bet none of the stuff in that would barely even raise an eyebrow from that age group.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Wed 16 Apr 11:11
Social Media is the biggest problem Imo. Looking at all these stupid videos on Tiktok thinking thats how normal folk live their lives.
I am so glad when I was in my teens we only had the black brick nokias and you had to go out and meet your mates.
Sure enough our group were drinking/smoking at 15/16 but never caused any bother starting fires or fighting etc. Just had good banter. I suppose the rules for drinking were shall we say more relaxed where you could get into Jiggies/life and the ballroom with a fake ID but you just stuck with your mates and had a laugh.
I just don`t get the teens nowadays as there is no respect and I`m not saying all but the way they talk to adults is an eye opener sometimes. If I talked to my parents that way I got a fly swat rattled of my leg but just the glare from my old maw would have been enough most of the time to shut up!
Its different now but its getting worse.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 16 Apr 16:55
The issue with social media is why I generally avoid it - it`s fake.
Children and even some adults are being conned into thinking they need to buy certain things and go certain places to be "successful". You rarely see an influencer posting how utterly crap a day they`ve had (unless it`s followed by "so I booked a spa weekend"). It`s fake, fake, fake.
Everything is an "experience" now. People can`t just go and do things. They try and make everything into something big then probably feel a bit disappointed afterwards, but don`t share that bit. Every experience is "amazing" even when it`s something bang average like going to a fast food place for a burger.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Thu 17 Apr 09:18
"Everything is an "experience" now. People can`t just go and do things. They try and make everything into something big then probably feel a bit disappointed afterwards, but don`t share that bit. Every experience is "amazing" even when it`s something bang average like going to a fast food place for a burger."
and its that way in the hope that they get paid for endorsing the places they are going or have been given free entry etc in order to get favourable online media afterwards etc.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 17 Apr 12:12
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Playup_Pompey, Thu 17 Apr 09:18
"Everything is an "experience" now. People can`t just go and do things. They try and make everything into something big then probably feel a bit disappointed afterwards, but don`t share that bit. Every experience is "amazing" even when it`s something bang average like going to a fast food place for a burger."
and its that way in the hope that they get paid for endorsing the places they are going or have been given free entry etc in order to get favourable online media afterwards etc.
In a way it`s no different to kids at school determining what is cool/not cool (I`m sure every generation had some ridiculous trends!) but on a bigger scale.
There`s also the issue of bullying and promoting the daft things you`re up to for attention. I just missed all that nonsense so there wasn`t much in the way of recording and sharing things.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 17 Apr 13:18
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jake89, Tue 15 Apr 23:25
Was that a result of the two (at least) young people who ended up taking their own lives, Buffy?
These kids are thankfully in the minority but the disruption they cause is incredible. It doesn`t help when grown adults sit on Facebook giving it all "it`s just boys being boys". It also doesn`t help, as I mentioned before, that the idiot running Fife Jammers promotes it all.
Yes.
Focus on Support:
The changes emphasize providing support and resources to young offenders, helping them to change their behavior and avoid future involvement in the justice system.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Thu 17 Apr 21:42
Agree with Buffy…you put say 16-18 year olds in with 18-25 year olds in jail and all they learn is how to break the law better and get away with it.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 18 Apr 00:30
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Alter Ego, Thu 17 Apr 21:42
Agree with Buffy…you put say 16-18 year olds in with 18-25 year olds in jail and all they learn is how to break the law better and get away with it.
Put them in Peterhead prison then, being in with the nonces might be a deterrent to them
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 18 Apr 09:30
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red-star-par, Fri 18 Apr 00:30
Quote:
Alter Ego, Thu 17 Apr 21:42
Agree with Buffy…you put say 16-18 year olds in with 18-25 year olds in jail and all they learn is how to break the law better and get away with it.
Put them in Peterhead prison then, being in with the nonces might be a deterrent to them
Ahh yes, let`s joke about child rape... Weirdo
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 18 Apr 10:39
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Alter Ego, Thu 17 Apr 21:42
Agree with Buffy…you put say 16-18 year olds in with 18-25 year olds in jail and all they learn is how to break the law better and get away with it.
That’s not what I said. I was stating facts in re to no under-18 facilities in YOIs.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Fri 18 Apr 21:50
I’m 37 we lit fires when we were 15-16 but it was never malicious fire raising we lit them up the woods on a Friday night and sat round them with our bevy and we were always savy enough to never let it get out of control and always had a means of putting it out but with these wee gits they seem hell bent on destroying everything in said fires path
But until there is actually a proper deterrent to stop them for doing it then it will keep happening
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 19 Apr 14:37
Same. We`d make wee fires up the woods but they`d be made from wood gathered around the place rather than from ripping branches off trees or from melting bins. We weren`t running around screaming or causing people bother as we`d pick areas well away from paths.
I think the key difference now is mobility and social media. We didn`t really have the ability to film and share our escapades and I`m sure many were exaggerated on a Monday morning in school. We also stuck to the area we lived in as we weren`t bussing it around Fife or beyond. Furthest we`d go would be a bus to Edinburgh for the day.
I`m not necessarily saying so away with free bus passes but this does seem to be a factor in the increase in antisocial behaviour. Saying that, the main factor seems to simply be disinterested parents. Some kids will be notorious regardless of how they`ve been raised but so many kids nowadays have zero consciousness of the impact of their behaviour. I`m all for "let them be" but when you`ve got nonsense like 4 kids being hospitalised in Kinghorn and 8 hour stake-outs for a kid on a school roof it feels like this goes beyond childhood antics.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sat 19 Apr 22:28
Parents definitely play a huge factor. Many nowadays are beyond lazy. Entertaining their kid involves sitting them in front of an ipad...
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 9 May 23:28
More fires and assaults tonight from the wee cherubs.
Is this the lot that Farage is expecting to jump at the chance of working in steel plants and coal mines again?
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Sat 10 May 01:34
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Dave_1885, Fri 9 May 23:28
More fires and assaults tonight from the wee cherubs.
Is this the lot that Farage is expecting to jump at the chance of working in steel plants and coal mines again?
Nah this will be the lot that he is expecting to start torching corner shops kebab houses and mosques when he starts preaching his own brand if fascism they can use there free bus passes to stop the boats anaw
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 10 May 09:07
There`s a local guy who keeps appearing on my TikTok. I won`t say his username as I don`t want others to be exposed to him. Recently discovered he also posts on Facebook under the same username and he appears to be a classic Reform-er - everything in the UK is broken and it`s all Labour/The SNP/Woke people`s fault, but never any answers in how to resolve the issues.
On the kids, I`ll always say they should be picked up, put in a cell and then left there until their parent/guardian comes for them. It won`t take long before they get bored.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 10 May 12:04
Quote:
jake89, Sat 10 May 09:07
There`s a local guy who keeps appearing on my TikTok. I won`t say his username as I don`t want others to be exposed to him. Recently discovered he also posts on Facebook under the same username and he appears to be a classic Reform-er - everything in the UK is broken and it`s all Labour/The SNP/Woke people`s fault, but never any answers in how to resolve the issues.
On the kids, I`ll always say they should be picked up, put in a cell and then left there until their parent/guardian comes for them. It won`t take long before they get bored.
Theres not enough cells for them all. Thats part of the issue.
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