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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Mon 7 Jul 10:23
David Hamilton, the Scottish Information Commissioner,was critical of the handling of his request to NHS Fife for details of costs of the suspended nurse Peggie tribunal.
His complaint to NHS management went roond the hooses and various officials were most displeased with his stance and duly recorded their displeasure.
This was duly sent to the mother of patient who had requested details of her son’s medical records..
Meanwhile the Nurse Peggie suspension tribunal resumes next week. Why? She’s already been vindicated by the Supreme Court gender ruling surely?
A mass cull of these NHS eejits is called for?
Post Edited (Mon 07 Jul 10:24)
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 8 Jul 03:47
Quote:
Parboiled, Mon 7 Jul 10:23
David Hamilton, the Scottish Information Commissioner,was critical of the handling of his request to NHS Fife for details of costs of the suspended nurse Peggie tribunal.
His complaint to NHS management went roond the hooses and various officials were most displeased with his stance and duly recorded their displeasure.
This was duly sent to the mother of patient who had requested details of her son’s medical records..
Meanwhile the Nurse Peggie suspension tribunal resumes next week. Why? She’s already been vindicated by the Supreme Court gender ruling surely?
A mass cull of these NHS eejits is called for?
Pfftttt! You`re making that up.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Thu 10 Jul 12:13
NHS Fife spent £220,500 according to The Herald. Unless they made it up…
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Fri 11 Jul 09:19
Quote:
Parboiled, Thu 10 Jul 12:13
NHS Fife spent £220,500 according to The Herald. Unless they made it up…
The bill is in excess of £220K but NHS FIFE are only paying £25K of it.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 11 Jul 13:43
Quote:
Tenruh, Fri 11 Jul 09:19
Quote:
Parboiled, Thu 10 Jul 12:13
NHS Fife spent £220,500 according to The Herald. Unless they made it up…
The bill is in excess of £220K but NHS FIFE are only paying £25K of it.
Seems a bit excessive, the cost and rigmarole for something that should have really been sorted out in a conversation between the two of them.
"I`m not happy to be changing in front of you/ for you to be changing in front of me"
"Okay, I respect your wishes, I`ll go and find somewhere else to change"
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 11 Jul 14:24
It`s almost like cubicles would have solved this whole issue...
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 11 Jul 15:15
Quote:
Andrew283, Fri 11 Jul 14:24
It`s almost like cubicles would have solved this whole issue...
I think they might have both cubicles and an open area, which is what caused the problem. Given the Vic is a relatively new building it seems bizarre they didn`t just have it all as cubicles like they have at the Carnegie or Cowdenbeath leisure centre.
Both people in this case have made it very tit for tat. This is literally a case of being offended at being offended.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 17 Jul 23:30
Quote:
jake89, Fri 11 Jul 15:15
Quote:
Andrew283, Fri 11 Jul 14:24
It`s almost like cubicles would have solved this whole issue...
I think they might have both cubicles and an open area, which is what caused the problem. Given the Vic is a relatively new building it seems bizarre they didn`t just have it all as cubicles like they have at the Carnegie or Cowdenbeath leisure centre.
Both people in this case have made it very tit for tat. This is literally a case of being offended at being offended.
No sure about that. If my wife or any woman in my family had felt uncomfortable about having a male in a female only space, I’d wholly expect their employer to make the specific arrangements. I feel sorry for trans folk but you just can’t get away from the fact that you are born male or female.
COYP
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Fri 18 Jul 06:27
Quote:
NMCmassive, Thu 17 Jul 23:30
Quote:
jake89, Fri 11 Jul 15:15
Quote:
Andrew283, Fri 11 Jul 14:24
It`s almost like cubicles would have solved this whole issue...
I think they might have both cubicles and an open area, which is what caused the problem. Given the Vic is a relatively new building it seems bizarre they didn`t just have it all as cubicles like they have at the Carnegie or Cowdenbeath leisure centre.
Both people in this case have made it very tit for tat. This is literally a case of being offended at being offended.
No sure about that. If my wife or any woman in my family had felt uncomfortable about having a male in a female only space, I’d wholly expect their employer to make the specific arrangements. I feel sorry for trans folk but you just can’t get away from the fact that you are born male or female.
Intersex people exist, the lowest estimates are 1 in 5500 the highest being about 1 in 59.
“Intersex” is an umbrella term used to describe people born with sex traits that do not fit binary medical definitions of male or female sexual or reproductive anatomy. Intersex populations are born with these differences in sex traits or may develop them during childhood. Human sex development is naturally diverse, with many variations possible in genitalia, hormones, internal anatomy, and/or chromosomes. It is estimated that up to 1.7 percent of the population has an intersex trait and that approximately 0.5 percent of people have clinically identifiable sexual or reproductive variations.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Fri 18 Jul 07:18
Isla Bumba the NHS diversity and equality lead tells the Peggie tribunal she doesn’t know her own sex but “would hazard a guess” she was female, but would need tested to confirm that as “nobody knows their chromosomes or hormonal composition without medical testing”
How did all us oldies manage to survive decades of employment without this new army of waste of spacers?
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 18 Jul 07:24
I have had two trans friends for over 25 years, they are appalled at the current fad and the evident attention seeking.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 18 Jul 09:40
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Fri 18 Jul 07:24
I have had two trans friends for over 25 years, they are appalled at the current fad and the evident attention seeking.
But this is the issue. There are two claims here:
A nurse being offended by having a trans woman in the changing room.
A doctor being offended by a nurse being offended by a trans woman in the changing room.
This could have been resolved quickly but we have this ridiculous issue of being scared to offend someone. We`re too scared to raise something with a member of the LGBTQ community or with an ethnic minority in case they get offended so instead pussyfoot around them even though 99.99% of them wouldn`t give a toss!
When I worked in the NHS I had two main dealings with HR. The first related a staff member who had been promoted just before I started and clearly couldn`t cope with the job. It massively affected their mental health and they were regularly absent. HR suggested they had been promoted above their skill level. I asked if I could discuss this with them so we could look at how to support and develop them. HR lost it and said I`d be hauled up if I did such a thing. So I did my best and the person ended up quitting with a massive black mark against their name due to how they quit. The second related to an actual trans issue where a trans person had complained that someone had said they didn`t agree with the term "CIS woman". This issue STILL hasn`t resolved itself long after I`ve left. Again, a case of the NHS refusing to acknowledge that holding different views can and will happen and just because someone is offended by a view doesn`t mean it`s wrong.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Fri 18 Jul 10:34
The female nurse didn’t want a biological male see her changing in a female dressing room. This particular male then made allegations regarding her which could have resulted in her losing her job.
Those losing their jobs should be the ones who who dragged her through all this, including the male invader of female space.
Post Edited (Fri 18 Jul 10:37)
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 18 Jul 11:28
Not been keeping up with all the ins and outs of this but Jake you said.
"A doctor being offended by a nurse being offended by a trans woman in the changing room"
Wasn`t the doctor the trans woman?
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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