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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Mon 2 Mar 19:18
Wrecks a local shop..tries to break into a nursery/school..stabs 1 woman and 2 men and now holed up in a flat all day while our police just stand there and do nothing!
Getting closer to home now eh??
Worrying times ahead imo.
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Mon 2 Mar 19:39
1. The police quite clearly have done quite a lot to contain the threat.
2. White Scottish men have been all over the news, with a lot more unreported for damages and attacks taking place in Edinburgh for months now.
3. Your choice to list nationality first here says a lot and it’s not a good look for you.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Mon 2 Mar 19:41
Hope the victims are recovering.
This could have been far worse, the next one could be.
This is not normal, it will never be normal.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Mon 2 Mar 19:49
When was the last time you heard of a white Scotsman carrying 2 blades at 08:30am in the morning wrecking a shop and trying to get into a nursery causing schools in the area to lockdown?
1. Our armed police should have been there and shot him.
2. Imagine if a white Scottish person did this in say Dubai…he would be shot.
3. He was Somalian or do you want me to say migrant/illegal?
What about if it was your son/daughter walking to school in that area this morning and this guy attacks them? Different matter then eh?
As I said this attack was 30 mins drive away from Dunfy…
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Mon 2 Mar 20:02
The last time white Scotsmen caused areas in Edinburgh to go into lockdown was a couple of months ago, maybe not 8.30 am but I’ve no idea what relevance time of day has to a crime, What time would have been more acceptable?
1. You want police to shoot someone that’s not an active threat? No **** that, that’s a dangerous country to live in, and even with our armed police being highly trained and taught to fire as a last resort they have still got it badly wrong at times.
2. Well given Dubai are happily hosting Scottish gangland leaders I’m not sure they are the model to follow, regardless, how one country acts is absolutely no reason for us to do the same.
3. It would be far simpler to not bother with the man’s nationality or immigration status(which as far as I’m aware isn’t known)
The what if it was you argument is quite pathetic, there’s a reason our justice system aims to be emotionally removed.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Mon 2 Mar 20:26
Not an active threat? He just stabbed 3 people and tried to break into a nursery?
Either you are on the wind up or should be on the nut job police database to keep an eye on.
I hope your mummy has the blades locked away in your house!
Post Edited (Mon 02 Mar 20:34)
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Mon 2 Mar 21:25
Non UK nationals commit crime at a rate proportional to their population (12% of the population, 12% of crime)
This doesn`t take into account that a higher proportion of the migrant population is young, which is relavent because young people, particularly young men (16-24), commit crime at a MUCH higher rate than any other demographic (80% of crimes are commited by young men) which inflates the numbers.
But don`t let facts get in the way of your feelings.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Mon 2 Mar 21:34
Iv never seen a white UK Scottish lad walk through a housing estate with 2 blades threatening to go into a primary school who went on lockdown…stabbed 3 people..went mental in a local shop and now is in a flat?? What are you all trying to say…oh let this idiot do what he wants..
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Mon 2 Mar 21:37
% of crime doesn’t matter now as we don’t know who or where he has came from is doing the crime?
I can’t believe anyone on here is sticking up for this absolute monster what did this today?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 2 Mar 21:55
He had two people in the flat and was threatening to harm them. Maybe leave the police to do their job rather than create a scene from a Netflix crime drama.in your head!
The origins of the person will be of interest rather than his race. If he`s here as an asylum seeker or illegal immigrant, what checks have been done before he`s been allowed into the community? Or is he a long term resident of Somalian descent who is in clear need of a mental health intervention? Either way, he needs locked up for the safety of the public. Imagine he`d made his way into the school/nursery.
Hope the injured people recover from both the physical and mental wounds.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Mon 2 Mar 21:59
% of crime doesn’t matter now as we don’t know who or where he has came from is doing the crime?
Could you rephrase that?
I can’t believe anyone on here is sticking up for this absolute monster what did this today?
Who`s doing that?
And even if anyone is (they are not) then why would you have such a sudden change of mind about folk`s right to have an opinion?
Iv never seen a white UK Scottish lad walk through a housing estate with 2 blades threatening to go into a primary school who went on lockdown…stabbed 3 people..went mental in a local shop and now is in a flat?? What are you all trying to say…oh let this idiot do what he wants..
very specific.
I once witnessed a guy go mental at a tram stop on Princes Street with a knife if that counts? about 10-15 years ago. He stabbed a cop in the shoulder after he was chased around the busy tram stop by two cops, with tazer prongs stuck in him. He basically didn`t flinch. He was eventually tackled and tazed again, but in the meantime he stabbed one of the cops.
And recently there were teenagers facing off with machetes on Princes Street.
Post Edited (Mon 02 Mar 22:00)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 2 Mar 22:01
Quote:
Hoolie, Mon 2 Mar 21:34
Iv never seen a white UK Scottish lad walk through a housing estate with 2 blades threatening to go into a primary school who went on lockdown…stabbed 3 people..went mental in a local shop and now is in a flat?? What are you all trying to say…oh let this idiot do what he wants..
That`s quite niche to be fair. What are your thoughts on the guy who stabbed someone last week in a Glasgow leisure centre over a game of football. Or the other stabbing in Glasgow over a pint of lager? Or what about the kid who stabbed a 15 year old this morning in Glasgow?
Is this a Glasgow problem? Maybe we should be demonising the whole of Glasgow rather than people who clearly need locked up.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Mon 2 Mar 22:08
Maybe he should have been caught when he was roaming about the estate with a knife in each hand before he wrecked a shop then tried to get into a nursery??
Don’t bring on the mental health bullshit..he had 2 knives in his had at 8am wandering around the streets then committed crimes 1-2 hour later being the shop then stabbing people and trying to get into a nursery…that’s not mental health but a mental asylum seeker!
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Mon 2 Mar 22:36
Round about the same time as the guy who stabbed the cop there was a guy roaming around Waverley Station stabbing folk with a hypodermic needle.
Letting propaganda merchants cherry-pick which tragic incidents are worthy of your concer based on the skin colour of the perpetrator makes you gullible racist scum.
Post Edited (Mon 02 Mar 22:56)
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 2 Mar 23:03
Quote:
jake89, Mon 2 Mar 22:01
Quote:
Hoolie, Mon 2 Mar 21:34
Iv never seen a white UK Scottish lad walk through a housing estate with 2 blades threatening to go into a primary school who went on lockdown…stabbed 3 people..went mental in a local shop and now is in a flat?? What are you all trying to say…oh let this idiot do what he wants..
That`s quite niche to be fair. What are your thoughts on the guy who stabbed someone last week in a Glasgow leisure centre over a game of football. Or the other stabbing in Glasgow over a pint of lager? Or what about the kid who stabbed a 15 year old this morning in Glasgow?
Is this a Glasgow problem? Maybe we should be demonising the whole of Glasgow rather than people who clearly need locked up.
Exactly Jake. We’ve got enough of our own problems without importing the dregs of someone else’s society.
I’m certainly not against immigration, I’ve married a migrant but to think it’s a good thing to welcome illegal immigrants with hotels, mobile phones, healthcare etc. I’m surprised more folk haven’t realised they come illegally because they don’t qualify to enter legally.
And I know you’re going to say asylum seekers but they know to claim asylum when caught or just to give themselves up and claim to be asylum seekers.
To me they should be able to provide some sort of documentation of who they’re so they can explain why they’re asylum seekers rather than having nothing and the burden of proof being on us to prove they aren’t. You’ll find genuine asylum seekers can prove who they’re and why they require asylum.
Notably the UK have had asylum seekers from Ukraine, Hong Kong most recently but also Venezuela and the Balkans historically. I can’t think of anyone from those regions that have been arrested for egregious or violent crime. My point being that I believe genuine asylum seekers don’t have the option of putting themselves in that type of position. Deportation can mean death to them.
Actually it’s probably also worth mentioning the large number of Iranians we took after in the 70’s given recent events. I done a quick search and couldn’t find any cases of Iranian asylum seekers being involved in terrorism in the uk. Again, genuine asylum seekers. They’ve integrated into society and added to their communities.
Imagine some wee Scottish Ned’s were able to go to another country and get stuck in the asylum process while being given ‘stable accommodation, ensured to be registered with a GP, provided with access to Primary and emergency care and weekly financial assistance’. It wouldn’t take long for the dregs of our society to start earning illegally, causing fights and attacking locals in pubs etc, stealing and everything else they’re known for here. Why is it different for people from other parts of the world?
COYP
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 2 Mar 23:10
Quote:
Hoolie, Mon 2 Mar 22:08
Maybe he should have been caught when he was roaming about the estate with a knife in each hand before he wrecked a shop then tried to get into a nursery??
Don’t bring on the mental health bullshit..he had 2 knives in his had at 8am wandering around the streets then committed crimes 1-2 hour later being the shop then stabbing people and trying to get into a nursery…that’s not mental health but a mental asylum seeker!
If they`re "mental" that means mentally unwell 🤦♂️
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 2 Mar 23:12
Quote:
NMCmassive, Mon 2 Mar 23:03
Quote:
jake89, Mon 2 Mar 22:01
Quote:
Hoolie, Mon 2 Mar 21:34
Iv never seen a white UK Scottish lad walk through a housing estate with 2 blades threatening to go into a primary school who went on lockdown…stabbed 3 people..went mental in a local shop and now is in a flat?? What are you all trying to say…oh let this idiot do what he wants..
That`s quite niche to be fair. What are your thoughts on the guy who stabbed someone last week in a Glasgow leisure centre over a game of football. Or the other stabbing in Glasgow over a pint of lager? Or what about the kid who stabbed a 15 year old this morning in Glasgow?
Is this a Glasgow problem? Maybe we should be demonising the whole of Glasgow rather than people who clearly need locked up.
Exactly Jake. We’ve got enough of our own problems without importing the dregs of someone else’s society.
I’m certainly not against immigration, I’ve married a migrant but to think it’s a good thing to welcome illegal immigrants with hotels, mobile phones, healthcare etc. I’m surprised more folk haven’t realised they come illegally because they don’t qualify to enter legally.
And I know you’re going to say asylum seekers but they know to claim asylum when caught or just to give themselves up and claim to be asylum seekers.
To me they should be able to provide some sort of documentation of who they’re so they can explain why they’re asylum seekers rather than having nothing and the burden of proof being on us to prove they aren’t. You’ll find genuine asylum seekers can prove who they’re and why they require asylum.
Notably the UK have had asylum seekers from Ukraine, Hong Kong most recently but also Venezuela and the Balkans historically. I can’t think of anyone from those regions that have been arrested for egregious or violent crime. My point being that I believe genuine asylum seekers don’t have the option of putting themselves in that type of position. Deportation can mean death to them.
Actually it’s probably also worth mentioning the large number of Iranians we took after in the 70’s given recent events. I done a quick search and couldn’t find any cases of Iranian asylum seekers being involved in terrorism in the uk. Again, genuine asylum seekers. They’ve integrated into society and added to their communities.
Imagine some wee Scottish Ned’s were able to go to another country and get stuck in the asylum process while being given ‘stable accommodation, ensured to be registered with a GP, provided with access to Primary and emergency care and weekly financial assistance’. It wouldn’t take long for the dregs of our society to start earning illegally, causing fights and attacking locals in pubs etc, stealing and everything else they’re known for here. Why is it different for people from other parts of the world?
Which is why I queried if the guy WAS an asylum seeker and if he was, why was he not found to be a risk? You can`t simply say "Nah, we don`t like the Somali ones, send `em back. We`ll keep the Ukrainians though."
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