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Topic Originator: usurpar
Date: Sun 3 Dec 11:11
I know it’s a long way off yet, and plenty will happen before then, but IF we make the playoffs which teams would you like to see us up against?
For me, I would like the Wee Team to win the league so Dundee Utd and one other with us - I would take Patrick Thistle.
Bottom team from the Premier league, probably St Johnstone or Livingston, so the other in the playoffs. I would prefer Livingston.
With a full squad, we would give all of those a game.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 3 Dec 11:13
IF we make play offs, I hope we play Raith and stuff them. Sweet revenge after five defeats in a row against them….
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 3 Dec 11:24
Isn`t it three defeats in a row after the win on penalties in the League Cup?
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 3 Dec 12:23
5 by the time the play offs come Eck………..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 3 Dec 12:29
Quote:
desparado, Sun 3 Dec 12:23
5 by the time the play offs come Eck………..
That`s the spirit! Christ on a bike!
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 3 Dec 13:12
With that kind of optimism why would you want to play them at all?
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Topic Originator: Pars11
Date: Sun 3 Dec 13:53
Makes no odds who we play if we are in a playoff at the top or bottom. Fife teams are rotten in playoffs. I think only Cowdenbeath are successful and that was painfully against us, 1-1 then 0-3. I would not want The Wee Team to win the league, I hope they falter as usual after the Christmas break.
Bluebell Polka
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 3 Dec 14:17
I get the feeling….. dunno why ?That some people take life ( especially fitba’ ) just a little bit too seriously….The whole point of my tongue in cheek post ( sorry don’t do winky emoji’s ) was that IF they have beaten us five on the bounce a play off victory would be all the sweeter….Anyway little chance of us making the playoffs but Raith beating us Five in a row? A distinct possibility unfortunately….
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 3 Dec 14:22
So the guy who still bangs on about the transfer window, based on very little knowledge of what went on, thinks some posters take football too seriously? 😁😁😁
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sun 3 Dec 14:57
Banter outcome of this season is to be well behind Rovers and dump them out the play offs.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 3 Dec 15:18
We`ll have more chance of making the play-offs if we take something from the two remaining League games against the Rovers.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 3 Dec 15:25
Topic Originator: wee eck like
Date: Sun 3 Dec 14:22
So the guy who still bangs on about the transfer window, based on very little knowledge of what went on, thinks some posters take football too seriously? 😁😁😁
Always think that if you need emojis to emphasis a point then you are struggling.
“Always bangs on” ? Hardly…Are we not allowed an opinion if it goes against the grain ? Your grain…
But hey, look on the bright side it is only 28 days until the next one……
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sun 3 Dec 15:27
Quote:
Rusty Shackleford, Sun 3 Dec 14:57
Banter outcome of this season is to be well behind Rovers and dump them out the play offs.
That would be tremendous!
Imagine they finish just behind United and end up about 20 points ahead of us. We continue to be consistently inconsistent but find form at just the right time and smash them in the playoffs. Amazing 🤩
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 3 Dec 15:29
"I was only on the wind-up"
Classic banter right there
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 3 Dec 15:30
If we are 20 points adrift of the Rovers it’s more likely we’ll be looking at the “wrong” playoffs.
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Sun 3 Dec 15:51
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sun 3 Dec 15:30
If we are 20 points adrift of the Rovers it’s more likely we’ll be looking at the “wrong” playoffs.
Well, Vee , we`re 12 points behind them after 13 games, so we better improve on that in the next 23 games
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Sun 3 Dec 15:57
My thought is that we could have an indifferent season until the run in to the play offs. I think the boat of automatic promotion has sailed so we just need to keep in the hunt for the top 4 and focus our long term efforts there.
Falkirk imploded, I expect Rovers could well do the same if there is an in form team come season end.
It’s all conjecture as we just need to win our next game / games.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 3 Dec 15:58
Here we go again. If you disagree with someone on here they accuse you of trying to deny them an opinion. It baffles me.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sun 3 Dec 17:23
I dont agree with that wee eck .. :-)))
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 3 Dec 17:36
Originator: wee eck like
Date: Sun 3 Dec 15:58
Here we go again. If you disagree with someone on here they accuse you of trying to deny them an opinion. It baffles me.
You don’t do irony, do you ?.... here have this 🤣🙄😵💫🤔🤷♂️
Post Edited (Sun 03 Dec 17:37)
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 3 Dec 17:48
Quote:
Parsweep, Sun 3 Dec 15:51
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sun 3 Dec 15:30
If we are 20 points adrift of the Rovers it’s more likely we’ll be looking at the “wrong” playoffs.
Well, Vee , we`re 12 points behind them after 13 games, so we better improve on that in the next 23 games
Jeffrey suggested we might contest a promotion place with Raith when finishing 20 points behind them in the regular season.
That doesn’t fit, judging by last season’s table, if Rovers are second we’d be in 7th or 8th spot.
Just a rough calculation of course - but I can’t see that scenario being at the positive end of the table playoffs.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 3 Dec 17:48
Where have I denied anyone an opinion, desparado? How would I be able to do that even if I wanted to? Anyone can express an opinion on here provided they don`t break the Forum rules.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sun 3 Dec 18:03
My happy outcome would be the two Fife clubs get promoted after United bottles it at the last minute.
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Topic Originator: usurpar
Date: Sun 3 Dec 18:39
At last, a proper response! Thank you OzPar! And incidentally, I agree.
Perhaps we should have a new Forum called “I disagree” for all those who want an argument?
Just sayin’….
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sun 3 Dec 19:23
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sun 3 Dec 17:48
Quote:
Parsweep, Sun 3 Dec 15:51
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sun 3 Dec 15:30
If we are 20 points adrift of the Rovers it’s more likely we’ll be looking at the “wrong” playoffs.
Well, Vee , we`re 12 points behind them after 13 games, so we better improve on that in the next 23 games
Jeffrey suggested we might contest a promotion place with Raith when finishing 20 points behind them in the regular season.
That doesn’t fit, judging by last season’s table, if Rovers are second we’d be in 7th or 8th spot.
Just a rough calculation of course - but I can’t see that scenario being at the positive end of the table playoffs.
Maybe I`m missing something obvious here but if everyone keeps picking up points at the same rate they have then we`d be at least 20 points behind (and still be 4th)?
Post Edited (Sun 03 Dec 19:23)
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 3 Dec 19:23
Quote:
usurpar, Sun 3 Dec 18:39
At last, a proper response! Thank you OzPar! And incidentally, I agree.
Perhaps we should have a new Forum called “I disagree” for all those who want an argument?
Just sayin’….
Straight from a Monty Python sketch.
"Hello, I`m here for an argument."
"No, you`re not."
"Oh, I see."
"No, you don`t."
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 3 Dec 19:36
I can`t see the team 20 points behind 2nd place being fourth.
Last season that would be between 7th and 8th, the season before between 5th and 6th and the season before that between 9th and 10th.
Post Edited (Sun 03 Dec 19:38)
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sun 3 Dec 20:39
Oz has nailed it for me
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 3 Dec 21:01
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sun 3 Dec 19:36
I can`t see the team 20 points behind 2nd place being fourth.
Last season that would be between 7th and 8th, the season before between 5th and 6th and the season before that between 9th and 10th.
So no point comparing previous seasons at all then? 👍
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: usurpar
Date: Sun 3 Dec 21:04
GG Riva 😁
Post Edited (Sun 03 Dec 21:05)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 3 Dec 21:18
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sun 3 Dec 19:36
I can`t see the team 20 points behind 2nd place being fourth.
Last season that would be between 7th and 8th, the season before between 5th and 6th and the season before that between 9th and 10th.
Literally just undone your own theory there by proving the variance in points in a season…
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 3 Dec 22:20
No team finishing 20 points down on second place has been in the promotion playoffs in the last three seasons - no theory and no variance there.
How far back do you want to rewind to find an instance where that did occur, if indeed it did ?
Post Edited (Sun 03 Dec 22:22)
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 4 Dec 09:47
Update - not a theory of mine, just an observation.
Moving on - season 2020-21 was curtailed to 27 games so should be discounted.
Likewise 2019-20.
Of the other ten seasons that have been completed normally, no team finishing 20 points behind second place has qualified for the promotion playoffs.
So, if the Pars make the promotion playoffs in this scenario it`ll be a first.
We can but hope !!!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 4 Dec 10:23
Maybe so, but in these previous ten seasons was the team that finished 4th twelve points behind second place after 13 games? Some team has to come 4th and at the moment we`re better-placed than any team below us to achieve that surely? It`s our position in relation to them that matters rather than in relation to the teams above us.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 4 Dec 10:46
Anything can happen over the remainder of the season.
However, there is no precedence for the scenario of any fourth place team finishing the season 20 points behind the runner up club.
Even less chance of fourth place winning promotion via the playoffs, that also has never happened.
Only Hamilton, Livingston and Dundee have gone up via the Championship promotion playoffs, all from second place.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 4 Dec 10:49
Quote:
veteraneastender, Mon 4 Dec 10:46
Anything can happen over the remainder of the season.
However, there is no precedence for the scenario of any fourth place team finishing the season 20 points behind the runner up club.
Even less chance of fourth place winning promotion via the playoffs, that also has never happened.
Only Hamilton, Livingston and Dundee have gone up via the Championship promotion playoffs, all from second place.
There`s a first time for everything, VEE - allegedly. 😀
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 4 Dec 11:19
Indeed GG - I had/have a few bucket list dreams on the agenda - managed to get to Yankee Stadium - still hoping for the Bernabeu in Madrid, likewise the Ryman in Nashville.
Would happily swap one of them for promotion to the top tier - even sweeter if we could do it at the Rovers` expense !!!
Post Edited (Mon 04 Dec 11:19)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 4 Dec 16:07
2014-15 - gap from 1st to 4th - 31 points
2015-16 - gap from 1st to 4th - 19 points
2016-17 - gap from 1st to 4th - 19 points
But theres no chance we could finish 4th and be 20 points behind 1st…
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 4 Dec 16:22
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 4 Dec 16:07
2014-15 - gap from 1st to 4th - 31 points
2015-16 - gap from 1st to 4th - 19 points
2016-17 - gap from 1st to 4th - 19 points
But theres no chance we could finish 4th and be 20 points behind 1st…
The chat was about Rovers and Pars in direct playoff ties, obviously irrelevant if either finishes in top spot.
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Topic Originator: chris1883
Date: Sat 9 Dec 09:30
Got to love football... you were all talking about relegation and sacking the manager the other week.... now you are talking about promotion. That`s football!
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Sat 9 Dec 14:30
TBH Although I will want us to win if we make the play-offs, I`m uncomfortable that promotion from a league can be dependent on a few games at the end of the season.
I don`t mind a play-off between second-bottom and second-top, that seems fair enough. But a team finishing 3rd or 4th, possibly a long way behind the 2nd team, shouldn`t be promoted, IMO.
And it`s not always good for the 4th team if they get promoted. A few years ago Brechin City finished 4th in League One after losing more matches than they won and with a negative goal difference. They beat Raith and Alloa to be promoted, never won a match in the Championship, suffered 3 relegations and are now struggling to get out of the Highland League.
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