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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 21 Dec 13:23
I see David Cook has been speaking to the media about our approach to the upcoming transfer window. Unfortunately the only two papers I can find covering it are the Courier and the Press, both of which are only accessible by subscription. Does anyone know what he`s been saying?
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Thu 21 Dec 13:44
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 21 Dec 13:23
I see David Cook has been speaking to the media about our approach to the upcoming transfer window. Unfortunately the only two papers I can find covering it are the Courier and the Press, both of which are only accessible by subscription. Does anyone know what he`s been saying?
If you add the courier link into an incognito tab on your browser it should open.
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Topic Originator: SevenTay
Date: Thu 21 Dec 13:48
David Cook has promised Dunfermline Athletic will be ‘on the front foot’ as they bid to strengthen their squad during the transfer window.
But the East End Park CEO and chairman is convinced there is no need for a major signing spree in January.
The Pars currently sit fourth in the Championship after an inconsistent start to the campaign characterised by unfortunate injuries to key personnel.
Cook is optimistic the continuing return of players from lay-offs will instantly improve James McPake’s options without the need for fresh faces.
And, although there is still room in the Fifers’ budget for new recruits, Cook is not expecting a busy month.
He said: “Our objective, as always, is to try to finish a transfer window better than when we start it.
“So, we’re always assessing the market to see if there are players available or changes that might happen in the squad we have to prepare for.
“We’ve always got to be on the front foot when it comes to that preparation.
“The injuries clearing up will hopefully allow us to have a squad of players to pick from, which James has been deprived of so far.
Cook: ‘Squad is a very competitive one’
“If, hopefully, we can get clear of injuries then James will have a fuller squad to pick from.
“And I think that squad is a very competitive one in the Championship.
“Yes, we’ll always look at players being available and if they can come in at a price point we can afford.
“We’ll look and see if there are ways we can strengthen.
“I wouldn’t expect us to sign four or five, that’s for sure, but we’ll definitely look to see what availability there is.”
Dunfermline signed eight players in the summer, three of whom – Kane Ritchie-Hosler, Ewan Otoo and Sam Fisher – had been on loan at the club last season.
They were joined by forwards Michael O’Halloran and Alex Jakubiak on permanent contracts and Ben Summers, Owen Moffat and Harry Sharp on loan deals.
Cook claims there remains some wriggle room in the budget set aside for McPake.
But he has also not ruled out some of the Pars players attracting interest from possible suitors.
Asked if there was money available for signings, he added: “There’s a little bit, but it’s about finding the right options.
‘There might be interest in our players’
“With transfer windows as well, we can’t foresee what might happen.
“There might be interest in some of our players, for example.
“And then we’d have to react to some of those situations.
“As it stands, I would say, absolutely, we will look at whether there are options there to strengthen the squad.
“But I think we feel like we’ve got the nucleus of the squad that will take us through to the summer.”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 21 Dec 14:00
Cheers, guys. It seems unlikely there`s going to be a lot of activity.
Post Edited (Thu 21 Dec 14:02)
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Thu 21 Dec 14:14
usual nonsense that we get every transfer window
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 21 Dec 14:23
If we were looking to sign players, who would people be thinking?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 21 Dec 14:27
Quote:
jake89, Thu 21 Dec 14:23
If we were looking to sign players, who would people be thinking?
Lee Ashcroft for starters
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 21 Dec 14:33
The operating model will be the same as previous windows,
Youngsters on loan nearing the end of their contracts with a buy option,
I wonder if otoo and KRH deals already had the possibility to buy factored in. If that`s the case I see no reason to change from that formula.
If Deniz looks shakey in the next 5 or 6 games I suspect a keeper will be high up the list.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 21 Dec 15:00
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 21 Dec 14:27
Quote:
jake89, Thu 21 Dec 14:23
If we were looking to sign players, who would people be thinking?
Lee Ashcroft for starters
He`s still got a year and a half on his contract.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 21 Dec 16:06
No signings incoming, is what I’m taking from that
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 21 Dec 16:12
David Cook has promised Dunfermline Athletic will be ‘on the front foot’ as they bid to strengthen their squad during the transfer window.
Opening sentence got me a bit excited .. but everything after that reads like a contradiction
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Thu 21 Dec 16:29
I think if you read only the quotes it sounds a bit more positive. I think the journalist has put a negative spin on it (negative, if you`re hoping for a load of new signings).
Cook says we`ll be on the front foot, looking to improve the squad but not a major overhaul.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 21 Dec 16:36
Cheers fcda that makes sense
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 21 Dec 16:37
he cant say anything other than that
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 21 Dec 16:37
Mibbe aye
Mibbe naw
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 21 Dec 16:41
A major revamp of the squad in January, such as happened in 2022, would be an admission of failure.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 21 Dec 16:59
A number 1 keeper (will be hard to find in Jan) and maybe another striker should be all that’s needed. Allows the pressure to be removed from McCann and Jakubiak a bit more.
Anyone thinking the team needs 4/5/6 players just now is deluded imo
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Thu 21 Dec 17:08
Quote:
Dave_1885, Thu 21 Dec 16:59
A number 1 keeper (will be hard to find in Jan) and maybe another striker should be all that’s needed. Allows the pressure to be removed from McCann and Jakubiak a bit more.
Anyone thinking the team needs 4/5/6 players just now is deluded imo
It depends on what your ambitions are, I think. If you are happy to finish mid-table, then I agree we only need 1-2 signings. However, if we want to finish in the play-offs and be in with a chance for promotion, then 3-4 players are needed, in my opinion.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 21 Dec 17:19
We`re literally in the play-off places - and Benedictus, Breen, KRH, Summers and Todd have barely kicked a ball for us this season.
There`s no rationale for saying that we need 3 or 4 in to have a chance of making the play-offs and therefore a chance of promotion.
Maybe a striker and a keeper could be added, but the key factor is keeping the majority of the squad fit.
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He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Thu 21 Dec 17:58
"It depends on what your ambitions are, I think. If you are happy to finish mid-table, then I agree we only need 1-2 signings. However, if we want to finish in the play-offs and be in with a chance for promotion, then 3-4 players are needed, in my opinion."
I just don`t follow that logic at all.
I doubt if many fans looked at our prospects before a ball was kicked this season and reckoned we would finish 1st or 2nd in the league. Most fans expected us to lose a fair number of games and some honestly expected us to be flirting with relegation.
Finishing 3rd offers only a slight advantage over finishing 4th, which is where we currently are (and will still be after this weekend, whatever the results.) So we`ve already reached a play-off position while having half our first picks unavailable for just about every match.
If the remainder of the season is better for injuries (ok, that`s not a given) then we are likely to improve slightly on results so far, which would probably keep us in the play-offs and in good form.
Personally I don`t think either the squad or the club is yet ready for the Premiership, but both are in much better shape than some would have us believe.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 21 Dec 18:01
Quote:
Dave_1885, Thu 21 Dec 16:59
A number 1 keeper (will be hard to find in Jan) and maybe another striker should be all that’s needed. Allows the pressure to be removed from McCann and Jakubiak a bit more.
Anyone thinking the team needs 4/5/6 players just now is deluded imo
I don`t see us getting another keeper in unless Sharp is going back to Dundee in January. Another striker is also a long shot. No club is going to let a proven goalscorer go to another team and we probably couldn`t afford one anyway.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Thu 21 Dec 18:36
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Thu 21 Dec 17:19
We`re literally in the play-off places - and Benedictus, Breen, KRH, Summers and Todd have barely kicked a ball for us this season.
There`s no rationale for saying that we need 3 or 4 in to have a chance of making the play-offs and therefore a chance of promotion.
Maybe a striker and a keeper could be added, but the key factor is keeping the majority of the squad fit.
It`s not like we are miles ahead of the competition, though. We are only 4 points ahead of the rest of the pack, and we are not the only team in the league to experience injury problems.
At the end of the day, we`ve won 6 games, and I can only recall 2 of them being quite convincing. Forgive me for not being as optimistic as you.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Thu 21 Dec 19:09
That’s Cook telling you zero signings when we need 2-3.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 21 Dec 19:21
Quote:
Bannockburn Par, Thu 21 Dec 19:09
That’s Cook telling you zero signings when we need 2-3.
That`s not what he said at all.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 21 Dec 19:28
Rovers have won 12 games, all by one goal. It`s not the kind of league where sides win a bunch of games by a distance.
I am optimistic as we have had 4 or 5 guaranteed starters injured for most of the season and all bar one of them are on the way back.
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He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
Post Edited (Thu 21 Dec 19:38)
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Thu 21 Dec 19:38
It`s cost benefit. Rovers and Utd are out of sight for us, I think. At best for us will be 3rd. We are 4th, so I don`t see any benefit personally other than maybe bring in one at most two players who would improve us. I agree that we have a competitive squad, and bringing in players may be counterintuitive. The grass isn`t always greener. Personally, if we do no business in the window, I won`t be unduly concerned.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 21 Dec 19:42
Quote:
neilholland999, Thu 21 Dec 18:36
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Thu 21 Dec 17:19
We`re literally in the play-off places - and Benedictus, Breen, KRH, Summers and Todd have barely kicked a ball for us this season.
There`s no rationale for saying that we need 3 or 4 in to have a chance of making the play-offs and therefore a chance of promotion.
Maybe a striker and a keeper could be added, but the key factor is keeping the majority of the squad fit.
It`s not like we are miles ahead of the competition, though. We are only 4 points ahead of the rest of the pack, and we are not the only team in the league to experience injury problems.
At the end of the day, we`ve won 6 games, and I can only recall 2 of them being quite convincing. Forgive me for not being as optimistic as you.
We have won 6 games, with half our first team being unavailable all season through one reason or the other, and will sit in the top 4 at Xmas no matter what happens this weekend……and you think we are struggling?
The mind truly boggles! 😂 imagine we had a fully fit squad all season….we would be up there with the top 2! Also, bearing in mind 3 games we have lost and 1 we have drawn, are games we should have gotten something from as well…
GG I think Sharp will be gone, so it will be Mehmet and Little left for in goals - we need a strong no1 but that will be hard in Jan to find!
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 21 Dec 20:04
I reckon we`d be competing for 3rd if we`d had better luck with injuries. I think Utd and Rovers would still be ahead by a few points given their level of consistency.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Thu 21 Dec 20:23
Have we had a worse run of luck with injuries in recent memory? As a proportion of key players and just perpetual centre back juggling?
There`s negative and then there`s just plain weird logic to suggest we need significant investment to make the play offs. We`re in them now!
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 21 Dec 21:41
I look at Raith Rovers and while they aren’t streets ahead of us, they have 2 or 3 key players who are way better than what we possess.
They have a top notch goalkeeper who will go onto good things I reckon and he must inspire his teammates big time by never giving in.
I’d pay top dollar for someone like him.
As it stands with us, we can’t seriously envisage any great signings outside of loan deals.
The inexperience of our players is evident.
Last season they were full of confidence with only a single defeat but now the table has turned, they are now seen as just scraping for results with desperate balls into the box.
Guys like Moffat despite being a loanee should be a certain starter imo
I’d feel like I’d rather play alongside him every week with his creativity and ball control than the others in midfield.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Thu 21 Dec 23:23
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I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
Post Edited (Thu 21 Dec 23:24)
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Thu 21 Dec 23:55
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 21 Dec 21:41
I look at Raith Rovers and while they aren’t streets ahead of us, they have 2 or 3 key players who are way better than what we possess.
They have a top notch goalkeeper who will go onto good things I reckon and he must inspire his teammates big time by never giving in.
I’d pay top dollar for someone like him.
I agree the Raith keeper has looked good when I`ve seen him, but the League results so far don`t suggest that overall he and his defence as a whole are doing any better than the keeper and defence at DAFC - our problem is at the other end of the pitch!
Raith: P 16, GF 29, GA 18
Pars: P 15, GF 19, GA 17
I just have a suspicion that if we watched keepers of other Championship clubs as often as we watched keepers at our own club we might well see plenty of mistakes being made, some of which will have resulted in goals.
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Topic Originator: GG4
Date: Fri 22 Dec 05:12
Remember we stuffed 5 past him last season when playing QOS. Dont think he`s that good.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Fri 22 Dec 05:55
Quote:
GG4, Fri 22 Dec 05:12
Remember we stuffed 5 past him last season when playing QOS. Dont think he`s that good.
It`s probably fair to say that most keepers are only as good as the defence in front of them. Folk forget football is a team game. Goalkeepers make mistakes, the same as any other player. If a defender manages to block any attempt at goal or an opponent misses the target, the mistake doesn`t matter, but when a goal is conceded, the mistake is magnified 10 fold.
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Fri 22 Dec 05:55)
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Fri 22 Dec 08:07
I think Bene mops up alot of balls in and around the box so that the keeper does not have to commit so much. I think that if he was able to command the box more he would be a great keeper. The ball distribution out of the box sometimes is questionable but that might be down to limited options being provided by the outfield players. I see this year as a year of adjustment for many in the team. So far so good in my view.
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Topic Originator: JimDAFC
Date: Fri 22 Dec 10:38
I think Weatherspoon is only signed up to the transfer window at Inverness, might be worth pushing the boat out for him even if it`s just till the end of the season.?
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Fri 22 Dec 11:17
Quote:
JimDAFC, Fri 22 Dec 10:38
I think Weatherspoon is only signed up to the transfer window at Inverness, might be worth pushing the boat out for him even if it`s just till the end of the season.?
I think McPake was asked about him at the recent supporters meeting and he replied that the player is heading to Canada in January.
I could be havering though. Maybe someone else who was at the meeting can confirm?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Fri 22 Dec 11:19
I think the transfer window would maybe give an indication of the ambitions of the club.
With the squad we have just now it might be good enough to stay in the play off places and it`s probably good enough to keep us out of relegation trouble.
signing an extra couple of players this window for me would maybe show an ambition of really holding onto 4th and depending on the quality of signing to try and keep up with Partick.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 22 Dec 11:45
Reading DC`s comments and what the management team have been saying I reckon they think that, given reasonable luck re injuries for the rest of the season, the present squad is good enough to consolidate a play-off place. People always seem to assume bringing in a couple of `quality players` is a no-brainer but they`re not that easy to come by in January and you also have to consider the overall effect on the harmony and dynamics of the squad.
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Topic Originator: Parster
Date: Fri 22 Dec 16:39
At this moment in time even with a couple of signings we simply aren`t good enough to be promoted we have a sound management structure who are laying strong foundations for the future we have good young players who have great potential for the future not getting to play offs isn`t showing a lack of ambition it is about not putting the club back to where it was because of fans that want a quick fix
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 22 Dec 17:23
We may not be good enough to win promotion but that`s no reason for not trying to get in the play-offs. Two-legged cup-ties are a different type of football and any experience of them we can get might stand us in good stead in future.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 22 Dec 18:10
Good post from Parster.
The Board`s ambition is to be secure in the Premier league within 7 years of taking over.
They have a plan and won't risk it for short term gain.
Post Edited (Fri 22 Dec 18:10)
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Fri 22 Dec 18:13
Good post parster
Consolidation first Promotion to follow
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Fri 22 Dec 18:51
“ he Board`s ambition is to be secure in the Premier league within 7 years of taking over..”
Is it? if so that’s utterly pathetic.
I have heard the 7 year plan(which is allowed to expand to 10 years) but surely, surely it’s to be better than just going up? That was the ambition before they came, their ambitions need to be higher.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Fri 22 Dec 19:09
If the plan is a 7 year one then we lost a huge amount of money last season so I hope the board have deep pockets to consolidate the club… might see a few players leaving for£££ in January/summer.
Plus I can see us making the playoffs so more £££.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Fri 22 Dec 19:30
Quote:
pars4life1, Fri 22 Dec 18:51
“ he Board`s ambition is to be secure in the Premier league within 7 years of taking over..”
Is it? if so that’s utterly pathetic.
I have heard the 7 year plan(which is allowed to expand to 10 years) but surely, surely it’s to be better than just going up? That was the ambition before they came, their ambitions need to be higher.
You realise by the wording `Secure` they are talking about being an established Premier League club , not just `going up` .
An established secure premier league will be a club that has at least 3-4 years of continuous Premier league competition imo
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Fri 22 Dec 19:33
If true then that means the timeline means promotion is essential this season to achieve that.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 22 Dec 19:39
Quote:
pars4life1, Fri 22 Dec 18:51
“ he Board`s ambition is to be secure in the Premier league within 7 years of taking over..”
Is it? if so that’s utterly pathetic.
I have heard the 7 year plan(which is allowed to expand to 10 years) but surely, surely it’s to be better than just going up? That was the ambition before they came, their ambitions need to be higher.
No. You are just quite simply wrong. Glad you are not in charge.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 22 Dec 19:40
Quote:
pars4life1, Fri 22 Dec 19:33
If true then that means the timeline means promotion is essential this season to achieve that.
No it doesn`t.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Fri 22 Dec 19:44
Quote:
pars4life1, Fri 22 Dec 19:33
If true then that means the timeline means promotion is essential this season to achieve that.
As per your own admission , this could be 10 years
My original take on this was a 7-10 year initial plan
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Sat 23 Dec 11:40
So is it acceptable to take another 3 years to go up?
On goalkeepers, just 2 of Ayr’s four last night were down to the apparent superb dabrowski. The quality of keeper available at this level is just not very good.
Post Edited (Sat 23 Dec 11:49)
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 12:02
I would have thought a 3 year plan for the team goals. I don`t see how you could look beyond that. For the development plan for the club I would have thought a 5-7 year plan would be realistic dependent on the goals. The club definitely needs to be grounded in a development strategy that will take time to develop.
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Topic Originator: dickandbert
Date: Sat 23 Dec 12:57
I’m surprised that so many here accept and expect so little.
Look back to all previously successful teams, except the financially doped Calderwood era. The progress seemed swift and inevitable.
Maybe I’m using my rose tinted glasses but, it seemed, under big Jim and Bert, most supporters believed we could make swift progress.
Under Bert we competed with the best Raith team in many years, perhaps ever. Then there was the Kenny Ward show at Starks. Great things are achieved when you believe.
It is realistic to aim at promotion at your first attempt. It’s difficult, but not impossible. We have proved that, as have others.
I accept that supporting Dunfermline will mean many ups and downs. That does not mean we should set the bar low on targets and goals.
Does anyone believe we should not expect to regularly perform at, or above, the level of Motherwell, Livingston or Kilmarnock for example?
Is there a broader society issue at play, I wonder? Without opening this up to politics, are people worn down to the point of resigning themselves that this is as good as it gets in general?
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 23 Dec 13:09
It`s also dependent on who comes down from the Premiership and parachute payments, add in that the playoffs are completely biased towards the Premiership club, it makes getting promoted a really tough ask without winning the title.
Raith have had a phenomenal start to the season but given Dundee United`s budget and January coming up I don`t see how they sustain the run. Especially given they`ve had an unbelievable number of late goals which can`t continue forever.
Don`t really get the hype with Dabrowski either, he`s really tall so naturally has a larger reach and likes a theatrical diving save, but he gives up more howlers than Mehmet and his distribution is terrible even for this level.
Defensive mistakes happen for every team in the championship and the statistics massively suggest our problem is scoring goals not with conceding them when you compare us to the top 3.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 23 Dec 13:47
There is no way we will see significant activity in the next window. We are crying out for a striker but with those we currently have all contracted beyond next season then I can’t see the club looking to add up front. So who can we expect if anyone ? Personally I would like to see an experienced CH. We have done well without Bene and hopefully when he returns, next week or the week after he stays fit for the rest of the season…
We are well covered in midfield numbers wise and when Bene and Breen return we have two more to play in there…. Hammy and Otoo.
Maybe Little going out on loan and another keeper ?
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Sat 23 Dec 13:52
Seriously doubt he has more howlers than mehmet. He’s that bad he’s kept 3 clean sheets against us 🤣
Post Edited (Sat 23 Dec 13:53)
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 23 Dec 14:11
Liam Mcfarlane from Hearts is a good young goalkeeper and at 19yrs of age ripe for a loan.
Just thinking how good Alan Mcgregor was for us, whatever happened to him?
Lochgelly laddie as well !
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 23 Dec 14:59
Quote:
pars4life1, Sat 23 Dec 11:40
So is it acceptable to take another 3 years to go up?
On goalkeepers, just 2 of Ayr’s four last night were down to the apparent superb dabrowski. The quality of keeper available at this level is just not very good.
Yes if it means we go up with a structure that means we dont just come back down within a few years.
You aren't paying attention too.
We could go up next year and take two years to become established.
Post Edited (Sat 23 Dec 15:00)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:40
Hamilton possibly fractured cheekbone. Let’s hope it’s not or else that’s another long term injury
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 23 Dec 18:33
Quote:
parsfan97, Sat 23 Dec 13:52
Seriously doubt he has more howlers than mehmet. He’s that bad he’s kept 3 clean sheets against us 🤣
Having watched a lot of games where Dabrowski plays over the last couple of years I can guarantee you he has more mistakes in him than Mehmet, maybe more top drawer saves as well but I wouldn`t say he`s any better overall.
Our insipid attacking and lack of finishing ability is more of a reason for the clean sheets when we`ve played them this season. Just think it`s way down on the priority list for improving the team overall.
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Topic Originator: Paralytic77
Date: Sat 23 Dec 21:12
Bain on loan with option to buy if promoted , I would ask the question
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 23 Dec 23:47
Great, 4 weeks of “we’re taking our time looking to get the right quality in” type chat then we’ll get another dud from Dundee on the 30th Jan.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 24 Dec 01:09
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 23 Dec 23:47
Great, 4 weeks of “we’re taking our time looking to get the right quality in” type chat then we’ll get another dud from Dundee on the 30th Jan.
Get in the sea ya walloper 😂😂
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 24 Dec 09:00
Ah c’mon dave, once bitten twice shy!
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 29 Dec 15:55
So......realistically......if you could choose.......who should the manager be looking at. There are people on here who think we only sign players from St Johnstone and Dundee so let`s forget about them. Who do you think we can get?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Fri 29 Dec 16:10
Would love to see us sign Rumarn Burrell from Cove Rangers, but can`t see that happening unfortunately.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Fri 29 Dec 16:50
Has anyone seen Andy Kirk`s son McKenzie play? I haven`t myself, but he has been flying in the Lowland League with 23 goals already.Good going for a teenager, although I appreciate that there is a big gulf in the leagues.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Fri 29 Dec 17:25
If we’re going for loans I’d love to see us bring in Charlie Reilly on loan or to improve the midfield Andy Halliday? He’ll be well put our price range but the promise of playing football would hopefully tempt him? I can’t see us bringing in anyone permanently in January unless we have any luck getting someone from abroad.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 29 Dec 17:32
Charlie Reilly at Dundee? Sorry not allowed. See above rules
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Fri 29 Dec 22:01
Lewis Spence signs for East Kilbride. Another senior player lost to the lower leagues.
I would have thought he could easily get a league 1 or 2 club but more financial rewards in the lowland league.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 29 Dec 22:28
Rumour on P&B that St Johnstone want Lewis McCann.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Fri 29 Dec 22:28)
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Fri 29 Dec 23:22
^ Hopefully that’s true
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Topic Originator: Pars1975
Date: Sat 30 Dec 00:15
S may on loan from St Johnstone
David crawford
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 30 Dec 05:49
We ain`t signing a new keeper, mcpake has Mehmet on a 3 year deal..he`s here for the long run.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 30 Dec 08:49
That’s some rumour if St johnstone want McCann?
I wouldn’t say he’s had a great season so far, it’s not for a lack of effort it’s just a lack of quality on the ball but that’s generally always been the case, 23 in the summer and has been in or around the first team for 5 seasons.
Take any money and put it towards a goalscorer or winger if it free’s up a space in the squad, can always stick a sell on clause in there to protect us if they can find him a position that get an end product out of him.
I don’t watch enough of the lower leagues to see if there’s any promising players coming through, don’t we have scouts for that?
I’d take Reilly from Dundee on loan, he’s up and coming, not someone they are trying to get off the wage bill and now we know why.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sat 30 Dec 10:58
Strange one regarding Mcann not unless they see something we don’t
He is hardly Championship level at the moment .
G.B
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 30 Dec 11:13
Quote:
gordi-b, Sat 30 Dec 10:58
Strange one regarding Mcann not unless they see something we don’t
He is hardly Championship level at the moment .
You mean unless professional football coaches and scouts see something other professional coaches and scouts see.
Barring injury McCann will have a professional career.
Big strong pacey can hit free kicks,
Alot to like there!
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 30 Dec 11:20
Stevie May could be a decent replacement for McCann.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 30 Dec 11:33
McCanns that bad hes been part of international youth teams! 🤦🏻♂️
Berkey, can you name the goalscorers/wingers we should be approaching?
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 30 Dec 11:47
Quote:
OzPar, Sat 30 Dec 11:20
Stevie May could be a decent replacement for McCann.
Can’t agree with you there. His goal scoring numbers are awful and all the commentators refer to him by his full name for some reason 🤷
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Sat 30 Dec 11:48)
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Sat 30 Dec 11:48
If we consider the collective gasps and disbelief from away supporters at Arbroath when McCann pulled up with his hamstring, then I think you are in the minority Berkey.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 30 Dec 11:55
Quote:
OzPar, Sat 30 Dec 11:20
Stevie May could be a decent replacement for McCann.
One is on an upwards career trajectory the other on a downwards,
He would not be a decent replacement.
Post Edited (Sat 30 Dec 12:39)
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sat 30 Dec 12:24
McCann still has plenty of upside. Strong, positive attitude, works hard etc. Hate seeing folk written off like they`re commodities.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 30 Dec 12:30
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 30 Dec 11:33
McCanns that bad hes been part of international youth teams! 🤦🏻♂️
Berkey, can you name the goalscorers/wingers we should be approaching?
Don`t be silly.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 30 Dec 12:35
Lewis’ brother Ali plays for St Johnstone. That’s the tenuous link some are using.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: the saline hill puma
Date: Sat 30 Dec 12:39
Quote:
buffy, Sat 30 Dec 12:35
Lewis’ brother Ali plays for St Johnstone. That’s the tenuous link some are using.
Sure he`s at Preston now
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 30 Dec 12:41
Wikipedia needs a kick up the bahookie then 😂
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sat 30 Dec 13:07
I wouldn`t let McCann go just now. He hasn`t done enough to justify decent money yet but I think he will. Like any investment it`s about picking the right time to sell. We`ll know better once we have a less makeshift team around him.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Sun 31 Dec 13:53
I see Wotherspoon has been linked with Dundee Utd in the Courier.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sun 31 Dec 14:20
May on loan or give the Sutherland brothers the chance to fight it out for the minutes? id go the latter.
did say a while ago bring Young back from his loan at the Shire as a possible stop gap but it looks like he is injured as well given he hasnt played in nearly two months.
from the summer we were always one player short, the defensive injuries mean you can add another one to that and that area has to be the priority if there is money available/suitable option or options available.
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Topic Originator: bannerpar
Date: Sun 31 Dec 14:28
Getting another Centre Back in has risen up the list of priorities for this window. We can`t just go on keeping fingers crossed that Bene and Breen are going to get back to playing regularly any time soon. The guys who have filled in have done well enough but it has resulted in chopping and changing the defence too often. Ideally we could do with an experienced older hand but but available ones like that are hard to come by. Rangers are looking to loan out Leon King who was playing for the Scotland under 21s before he got an ankle injury in the summer (which might be a red flag). He looks quite big and strong, has anyone seen him play and is he any good?
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Topic Originator: Turps
Date: Mon 1 Jan 17:29
Rumour linking us with Stevie May.
Click here
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 1 Jan 17:32
It’s been 9 years since he had a decent goal scoring return.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Mon 1 Jan 17:49
I think he was the last person to reach 25 goals in a season in this division, although that was in 12/13.He was also St Johnstone`s top scorer last season, albeit with 10 goals.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Mon 1 Jan 17:52
That rumour probably came from the guy reading this account.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 1 Jan 18:01
The Record and Sun are reporting SJ are on the point of signing a striker :-
Former Sunderland striker Benjamin Kimpioka is reportedly set to sign for St Johnstone. Craig Levein has steadied the ship in Perth and is lookint to the January market for firepower to shoot them further away from the relegation zone. And he`s said to have made an ambitious move for Kimpioka who is a free agent after leaving AIK.
Kimpioka was once highly rated at Sunderland and scored four times in 18 appearances for them before heading off to try his luck in Sweden. But that didn`t quite work out and it`s now believed he is close to a move to Scotland where he`ll look to revitalise his career. He could even play against Dundee on Tuesday if the paperwork is passed in time.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Mon 1 Jan 19:00
May has done both his knee`s now, never been the same player since the first bad injury.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Mon 1 Jan 20:19
Surely people aren’t still believing that JockMcTeckle account on Twitter/X?
Post Edited (Mon 01 Jan 20:19)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 1 Jan 20:33
May does fit the brief tho, he’s an experienced player from Dundee or st Johnstone.
Is he likely to have more of an impact than o’hallaran has at this level? hasn’t scored all season so can see why they are keen to move him on.
Surely any budget we have this window needs to be spent elsewhere in the team?
Can’t see this one coming true. Unless someone wants wighton on loan?
Post Edited (Mon 01 Jan 20:36)
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Mon 1 Jan 20:34
A striker that hasn’t scored all season? Just exactly what we need
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Mon 1 Jan 20:53
Watched Stevie May against Livingston on Wednesday - absolutely rank!
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Mon 1 Jan 21:43
Could be doing with a Rutkiewicz and Hardie from St Johnstone right now!
We urgently need another centre half. Can see why Ashcroft was suggested, he`s not getting a look in at Dundee. Unfortunately they would probably want to keep him to fill the bench.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Mon 1 Jan 22:00
Liverpool have recalled the young cb that was at Dundee doing well …
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Mon 1 Jan 22:26
Quote:
RMGpar, Mon 1 Jan 22:00
Liverpool have recalled the young cb that was at Dundee doing well …
Beck is a left back not a CB.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Mon 1 Jan 22:42
With Sutherland recalled as well, unless there`s someone who is just a cut above in attack that`s available I think we`re fine for numbers there for now.
Priority in my opinion is at least a couple defenders, Ashcroft (if available) would fit the bill in the centre of the back three if Bene`s injury continues to hamper him to the end of the season. Then getting someone who can fill in at the left centre back role as well since Breen can`t stay fit would be great. That allows Hamilton and Otoo to play in midfield and provide a different option.
January is always going to be difficult but I think the club is pretty alert given the injury situation, I wouldn`t read much into the comments from Cook and McPake downplaying it. That`s pretty standard unless you`re in real danger of relegation or have a clear chance of promotion.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 2 Jan 12:12
Quote:
Kdy Par, Mon 1 Jan 22:26
Quote:
RMGpar, Mon 1 Jan 22:00
Liverpool have recalled the young cb that was at Dundee doing well …
Beck is a left back not a CB.
The loan was replaced by Dara Costelloe, who Burnley recalled from his loan at St Johnstone. Hes a winger though
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Tue 2 Jan 17:39
Big month ahead, with our strikers not firing and Todd being out long term again, we need bodies.
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Topic Originator: par58
Date: Tue 2 Jan 17:45
After today’s courageous efforts from the Pars we really need more players. Can’t continue to put such strain on some of these guys that they are having to endure.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Tue 2 Jan 17:48
If we aren’t making signings off the back of today then just give it up. Absolutely embarrassment of a bench and absolutely zero options on it. 1 fit centre half and we keep playing a back 5 🤣
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 2 Jan 17:50
Would like to think mcpake will have some friends from his time in England who might help us out with a loan or 3.
Has Brexit meant we can’t even get a loan in from Germany?
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: dover par
Date: Tue 2 Jan 18:03
Rovers were there for the taking today but as usual with McPake’s team nobody stepped up. Let’s hope he looks further than the Dundee Courier for players real quick.
"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 2 Jan 18:20
I don’t see much movement at all happening throughout the January transfer window. At the outset of the season the primary aim was to generate enough points to stave off relegation and then take it from there and see what we can manage, that was the direction given to McPake and with a diminished squad with players to return from injury, he’s meeting that expectation for now.
It is a risky play if we don’t act and rely on those returning from injury, for one there could be a recurrence of the injury, some of them are unproven in the division so no guarantee they’ll perform to the expected level when they do return, it will give us a bigger chance of making a good season out of this one, but isn’t a certainty by any means.
I think all in all weighing up the realistic ambitions for this season and availability of incoming talent, limited activity will likely be the smarter move in the long run.
I don’t pay any attention on the 7-10 year plan, I don’t really believe in long term plans like that, no guarantee the board will stay that long, and tbh majority of fans won’t get excited at the prospect of waiting that long, waited long enough already for some good days. We should be more ambitious and targeting better than that.
Same goes for this playing fairly and with integrity concept, I don’t get it, we should be doing it anyway and the presentation that came out didn’t really tell me anything and was a bit of a waste of time and effort pulling it together.
Post Edited (Tue 02 Jan 18:26)
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Tue 2 Jan 18:20
Week on week I find it more unbelievable we offered half of these donkeys multi year contracts.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Tue 2 Jan 18:24
Topic Originator: par_33 like
Date: Tue 2 Jan 17:39
Big month ahead, with our strikers not firing and Todd being out long term again, we need bodies.
Never heard a peep about Todd’s latest injury …?
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 2 Jan 18:25
Your prob right berry, the areas we need to strengthen already have players who will be here for at least next season unfortunately. I’d wager they will be hard to shift out too.
With whatever limited budget we have, mcpake will absolutely need to get it right on the experienced players law of averages suggests we’re due a good one.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Tue 2 Jan 18:26
Otoo did not look 100% to me today and with Fisher and Breen getting injured again we MUST bring in a CH asap…
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Tue 2 Jan 18:27
@ cammypar_1995
The biggest mind boggling multi year contract handed out was Mehmet, the guy held us at ransom in the summer until we gave him what he wanted. He thought he was a world beater after last season, when in fact, he wasn’t hardly tested. We still have another 2.5 years left of him! We’re in for a long hurl…
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Topic Originator: dover par
Date: Tue 2 Jan 19:10
People talk about us being mid table (our season objective) get beat on Friday and we are two defeats from bottom. We have won three games out of the last twelve!! Aye, all going to plan??
Players are needed now
"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
Post Edited (Tue 02 Jan 19:11)
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Tue 2 Jan 19:13
The mind boggles although there is more than one that has a great agent to get a deal they have out of us.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Tue 2 Jan 19:15
Matty out for at least 2 months am told, nasty injury. Fisher broken nose and concussion. M8 was at hospitality mcpake has asked for signings but nothing imminent.
Relegation battle looming if we don’t get players in. Looks unlikely we will see much of Matty, Benny or Kane before the end of the season. We need an experienced CB and a midfielder as a matter of urgency.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Tue 2 Jan 19:17
Agree with whoever said the experienced players aren’t good enough. They weren’t last time in this league so unsure why it was expected to be any different now. Handing out 2/3 year deals last season on the back of 1 good season was mind boggling
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 2 Jan 19:20
I thought Chalmers played OK today.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 2 Jan 19:38
McPake acknowledged in his post-match interview that there are moves afoot but couldn`t be sure any business would be possible by Friday. Fisher has a broken nose, a cut and concussion (second in a week) so could be out for a while. Bene and Breen will probably get scans tomorrow. Allan should be available on Friday and O`Halloran should be OK but McCann probably needs another week. He confirmed Todd had a hamstring injury and possibly damage to the tendon also.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Tue 2 Jan 20:43
Desperate times (if they weren`t desperate enough already) defensive player wise.
The injuries today made me think. I know there has been some questions about warm ups, stretching, possibly players coming back too soon, etc. Maybe a more likely cause is that we`re in a tougher league and the players aren`t quite as comfortable in it. Not questioning the effort but pressure from opponents, poor bits of control, or distribution, could result in over stretching or a recovery challenge that just wouldn`t have been required last season?
I think we had lots of injuries the last time we were promoted to the SPL?
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Tue 2 Jan 21:09
The thing that worries me is, JP saying he does not think there will be anyone in before Friday.. I was hoping that loans would have already have been in place for today or early part this week. We were already really light in numbers before todays further injurys.
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Tue 2 Jan 21:24
Lee Ashcroft very much out of favour at Dundee..a loan till the end of the season could possibly do us some good. Sure Mcpake took him to Dens?
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 2 Jan 21:53
Not a bad shout par 33, and it’s Dundee so ticks the most important box.
With the injuries to key players and those experienced players that are not injured being average at best we could quite easily string a good loses together and end up in a relegation scrap.
A relegation scrap makes me shudder, Hamilton aside who is going to roll up thier sleeves ready for the fight? Most of them didn’t last time in this league.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Wed 3 Jan 11:32
he might be "out of favour" but that doesnt mean he is available, if he was could we afford him, what other teams would be after him and could we convince him to come here but that goes for any player whether they are experienced or not.
people want experience, Brad McKay might be available, Efe Ambrose might be available....
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 3 Jan 12:38
How about Fontaine at Edinburgh City, formerly Hibs and built like the proverbial!
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Wed 3 Jan 12:58
What Berkey says regarding players being ready for a scrap is pertinent. I don’t really see many leaders in that team. Hamilton for sure and Bene who is not going to be playing again for weeks if at all again this season. The rest ? I have noticed Edwards geeing others up at times but we do seem to have a pretty quiet group of players. They all need to up their game in the coming weeks. Getting at least two players in during the window will help, providing they are up for a scrap and not just the type who will go through the motions like we had under Hughes.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Wed 3 Jan 16:26
Andy Halliday being chased by the Rovers
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Wed 3 Jan 17:57
This season has to be a write-off due to the anomalous injury scenario. Success for me would be going into the last few fixtures not having to worry about finishing 9th or 10th.
I may be a pragmatic pessimist but people must be bonkers if they thought we`d be a serious challenge for the play-off places.
You can also add me to the compounding list of people bemused by the 3 year contract Mehmet was handed. Utterly baffling is that one. For me,that`s one of the worst player related decisions made in a lengthy period of time.
Bite the bullet, get another keeper in on loan and have him as backup. Not an easy task I admit, but we have to try. There must be a good 3rd/4th choice keeper at a bigger team desperate for first team action. That`s why we have scouts (or do we?).
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Wed 3 Jan 18:12
3rd/4th choice, higher club....like Harry Sharp?
scouts? we have a chief scout who is in our dugout every game, beyond that no idea.
Post Edited (Wed 03 Jan 18:13)
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Wed 3 Jan 18:45
Andy Halliday would have leadership qualities.
But of course we won`t get him, he hasn`t played for Dundee or St J.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 3 Jan 18:54
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Gaz3822, Wed 3 Jan 18:45
Andy Halliday would have leadership qualities.
But of course we won`t get him, he hasn`t played for Dundee or St J.
Yeah it has nothing to do with us not being able to afford him......
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Wed 3 Jan 19:35
I assume we are looking to bring in a couple of central defenders. I think that`s what we need most.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Wed 3 Jan 19:39
Danny Wilson has had his contract terminated in America.. Ex rangers CB
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 3 Jan 20:08
And Sam Nicholson released also. Ex Hearts and Bristol Rovers
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 3 Jan 20:41
Offer them both deals and go for Halliday too - then leave them to decide
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Wed 3 Jan 20:53
Re: Transfer window
Posted from the Android app Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 3 Jan 18:54
Quote:
Gaz3822, Wed 3 Jan 18:45
Andy Halliday would have leadership qualities.
But of course we won`t get him, he hasn`t played for Dundee or St J.
Yeah it has nothing to do with us not being able to afford him.....
How do you know ? You don`t know what kind of deal can be done.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Wed 3 Jan 21:21
We need a CB or 2 in for Friday… just to defend well and scrape a draw.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Thu 4 Jan 01:51
Just give a couple of really obese pars fans short term contracts,stick one inside each post so Mehmet has an easier job.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Thu 4 Jan 05:50
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kozmasrightfoot, Thu 4 Jan 01:51
Just give a couple of really obese pars fans short term contracts,stick one inside each post so Mehmet has an easier job.
Just sign Matt McGinn’s Big Orange Whale. We will win every league and every cup. Nice wee tale that one about Rangers.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Thu 4 Jan 06:33
A big orange whale came up the Clyde
Landed in Ibrox on Saturday night
This big orange whale climbed into the park
Where the players were trying to train in the dark
They ran and they wakened their manager up
If we cannae get training we’ll no win the cup
Said he, it’s an answer tae aww oh ma prayers
And he rushed doon and signed the whale for the Gers
With a whale for a goalie they won every cup
And left Jock Stein with a trembling lip
To give him the sack made them sad as could be
But they caught him one Friday having fish for his tea
The moral, no doubt, you’ll think is a queer yin
Rangers won’t have a whale if it’s not Presbyterian
Post Edited (Thu 04 Jan 06:55)
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 4 Jan 12:01
Wilson and Nicholson were on £5k a week in the US, maybe if they take off a couple of zero`s we could be in with a shout
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Thu 4 Jan 12:15
Seems unlikely we`d be signing either of them.
Possible though that if they end up at a Scottish club that someone else is displaced and becomes available.
If for example Dundee went for Wilson then any chance of getting Ashcroft might improve. If Hearts then someone like Craig Halkett.... being optimistic.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Thu 4 Jan 14:52
out of favour/off the radar players at Other clubs, just need to look at Celtic with James McCarthy/Kwon struggling to even get B team minutes. Harry Stone/Mcauley Tait at hearts. Lovelace/Pasnik/Harkness at Rangers. Playing Mens 1st teams football in 2nd tier fo scottish football is better for development than playing youth games etc
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Thu 4 Jan 15:09
I think Harkness is already on a season-long loan at Morton, and anyway has a hamstring injury, as has Lovelace.
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Post Edited (Thu 04 Jan 15:12)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 4 Jan 15:52
I think the problem is having the money to fund new arrivals ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Thu 4 Jan 16:15
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Thu 4 Jan 15:52
I think the problem is having the money to fund new arrivals ?
People keep saying this, but we have the 2nd highest average attendances in the league and received money from the transfer of Nisbet to Millwall. I don`t buy into this idea that we don`t have enough to bring 2-3 players in - at least on loan or short term deals.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Thu 4 Jan 16:26
We`ve really got to find the money for 2 or 3 better than average players at some stage. The board can`t keep looking at the cheap option on the park for the sake of their `project`.
Experienced players are needed now, surely !?
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 4 Jan 16:33
Quote:
neilholland999, Thu 4 Jan 16:15
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Thu 4 Jan 15:52
I think the problem is having the money to fund new arrivals ?
People keep saying this, but we have the 2nd highest average attendances in the league and received money from the transfer of Nisbet to Millwall. I don`t buy into this idea that we don`t have enough to bring 2-3 players in - at least on loan or short term deals.
Neil, here are some quotes attributed to our CEO:-
“If they can come in at a price we can afford”
“There remains some wiggle room in the budget”
“There’s a little bit but it’s finding the right options”
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Thu 4 Jan 16:37
indicates there is money
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Thu 4 Jan 16:43
Raymie, I don`t think that`s good enough. I think the fans have been extremely patient since the Germans came in, we bought into the academy.
Now, and this is worse case scenario, what if we lost out on decent available players again this window, keep being ravaged by injuries and started slipping down the table. Can you imagine the state of the support if we got relegated twice during their tenure, and all before the academy is up and running ?
I think all patience will be gone.
We badly need fit experience on the park.
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Thu 4 Jan 16:50
Bear in mind that if he came out and said there was a decent amount of money there for players then it gives incoming players and selling clubs a stronger position to ask for more.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 4 Jan 16:51
I see this as a difficult one from a business perspective. We`re not getting promoted automatically so it comes down to avoiding relegation and attempting to finish as highly as we can. Current position is good so there`s little benefit in spending any money this season`s except:
- we have a number of injuries which could lead to us dropping down the table
- a higher position gets a higher end of season payout.
- there may be opportunities to sign for the future given some players will be out of contract in the summer
- players like Edwards are attracting interest and may go elsewhere.
From the statement I am reading it as good business sense - we`ll sign someone if they`re good and at the right price. I suppose there`s an addage of "and if we need them". Right now I see the need to strengthen the defence given the injuries.
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Thu 4 Jan 16:59
I would be astonished if there were no ongoing discussions between Messrs McPake, Cook, Meggle and others about the availability of suitable players (loans or signings)and what money is available for the negotiations.
Just because we`re not aware what is happening doesn`t mean that nothing is.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 4 Jan 16:59
I would say we need players now. We probably didn’t a few weeks ago?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Thu 04 Jan 17:00)
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 4 Jan 17:00
Last season was operated at a loss,
Nisbet cash is used up already in operating costs,
Not to mention we paid fees for Otoo and KRH,
There are hardly any teams in the championship paying transfer fees for players.
We have to be shrewd in the market, older, experienced freebies, and possibly picking up young lads on the cheap from lower leagues or Premier youth teams.
Otoo is showing that he has real potential and is looking most like our best asset ATM.
Todd as well, but this season has been stop start.
I have faith that we are going about things the right way, but it requires a boat load of patience.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 4 Jan 17:01
It would take an absolute idiot of a CEO to come out and tell his clubs fans that there`s pots of money. Financial suicide. Almost as dense as not being able to see how daft a move that`d be.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Thu 4 Jan 17:03
Not going to lie but would be really disappointed not to see a pen GIF before the game tomorrow.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 4 Jan 17:19
Quote:
StevenPar77, Thu 4 Jan 17:03
Not going to lie but would be really disappointed not to see a pen GIF before the game tomorrow.
Be prepared to be disappointed then…..
We will make signings, but wether or not they are stop gap loans or experienced pros is yet to be determined.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Thu 4 Jan 17:43
I reckon we will make maybe one signing, but it will be at the end of the window. We don’t do good transfer windows under Cook and Co. Its last minute deals in whatever leftovers are kicking about. I feel for Mcpake, difficult to win games given the injury situation at the club. We could be in for a very difficult 4-6 weeks if we don’t get players back fit. Tod and KRH are likely out for the rest of the season. Hopefully we keep away from the relegation battle.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Thu 4 Jan 18:01
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Thu 4 Jan 16:59
I would say we need players now. We probably didn’t a few weeks ago?
Disagree with you there. A blind man can see that we`ve been needing another striker since the start of the season, and probably another winger to provide cover/ competition for KRH.
Others have been saying for a while now that we need a better keeper.
Unfortunately, recent events have also decimated our defence.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Thu 4 Jan 18:11
Quote:
Gaz3822, Thu 04 Jan 16:43
Raymie, I don`t think that`s good enough. I think the fans have been extremely patient since the Germans came in, we bought into the academy.
Now, and this is worse case scenario, what if we lost out on decent available players again this window, keep being ravaged by injuries and started slipping down the table. Can you imagine the state of the support if we got relegated twice during their tenure, and all before the academy is up and running ?
I think all patience will be gone.
We badly need fit experience on the park.
Agree with most of this. I’m yet to be convinced by this so called “investment”. We were actually slightly more successful before they took over. I personally think we’ve went backwards as a club.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
Post Edited (Thu 04 Jan 18:12)
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 4 Jan 18:17
McPake explained months ago the plan was going to be 3 forwards and not like for like replacing Todorov and O`Hara.
"We badly need fit experience on the park"....you can only sign what is available, within budget etc etc
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 4 Jan 18:24
Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 4 Jan 17:00
Last season was operated at a loss,
Nisbet cash is used up already in operating costs,
It’s worrying with an average crowd of over 4700 we had a significant loss last season. This season we should top 5k average crowd, probably second highest in the league…..and it would not surprise me if we are in the red again this season.
Very concerning.
One or two loans at most this window I think.
Still paying relatively high wages for three or four players on contract for another 18 months or more too. Experience = £’s
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 4 Jan 18:37
I`m surprised there weren`t more people with alarm bells after they decided to double down on the training facilities and then needing additional "funding partners" to secure the first shovel in the ground.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 4 Jan 18:37
We`d be bust if it weren`t for the investment. We`re investing in the future, not throwing money around.
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Thu 4 Jan 18:38
Giving Mehmet a 3 year deal has backfired as I would say we need a goalkeeper as well as a centre half as soon as possible. The goals we continue to concede are absolutely criminal, and it is usually down to the goalkeeper and lack of leadership at the back.
Sharp punted back to Dundee should free up wages. We have space for 3 other loans if we do that. Goalkeeper and a centre half we should be able to get in on loan without breaking the bank until the end of the season. It`s identifying appropriate candidates that could be the problem. Off the top of my head, I`d love us to get Stolarcyk back from Leicester and Ashcroft as well. Those are just two players I have plucked out of my memory, but they two would help us a lot.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: Swifty
Date: Thu 4 Jan 18:46
Having watched the Pars for 60+ years l cannot remember such a horrendous amount of serious injuries to key players in a matter of months. If we had been able to field our strongest team most weeks we would have been sitting comfortably in 3rd or 4th place or better. I also think that chopping and changing the defensive line up may have had an impact on Deniz Mehmet’s confidence?
We have known for a few weeks that our injury list was a matter of concern. I’m rather surprised therefore that we seem to be on the back foot when it comes to beefing up the squad. I appreciate that it’s always a difficult window and we are not exactly awash with transfer funds. But to avoid a relegation battle we need a couple of Centre Backs, this allowing us to strengthen the midfield by playing Chris Hamilton and Ewan Otoo further forward. Fingers crossed for some transfer action soon.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 4 Jan 18:57
Quote:
desparado, Thu 4 Jan 18:24
Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 4 Jan 17:00
Last season was operated at a loss,
Nisbet cash is used up already in operating costs,
It’s worrying with an average crowd of over 4700 we had a significant loss last season. This season we should top 5k average crowd, probably second highest in the league…..and it would not surprise me if we are in the red again this season.
Very concerning.
One or two loans at most this window I think.
Still paying relatively high wages for three or four players on contract for another 18 months or more too. Experience = £’s
Nearly every club will be operating in the red with investment keeping them afloat,
We will be no different in this regard, but I imagine we will be more prudent than most.
the board will be speculating on the likes of Otoo and KRH and looking to cash in on Todd and McCann all going well.
With the youth academy hopefully supplying more in the next 5 years.
Our signings will be few and far between especially in January, probably loans where there is little outlay,
With more activity in the summer when deals expire etc,
I can also see jakubiak getting a new deal into 2025, this place will have a meltdown lol.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 4 Jan 19:25
Quote:
Swifty, Thu 4 Jan 18:46
Having watched the Pars for 60+ years l cannot remember such a horrendous amount of serious injuries to key players in a matter of months. If we had been able to field our strongest team most weeks we would have been sitting comfortably in 3rd or 4th place or better. I also think that chopping and changing the defensive line up may have had an impact on Deniz Mehmet’s confidence?
We have known for a few weeks that our injury list was a matter of concern. I’m rather surprised therefore that we seem to be on the back foot when it comes to beefing up the squad. I appreciate that it’s always a difficult window and we are not exactly awash with transfer funds. But to avoid a relegation battle we need a couple of Centre Backs, this allowing us to strengthen the midfield by playing Chris Hamilton and Ewan Otoo further forward. Fingers crossed for some transfer action soon.
Good post, Swifty.
I would add that it can be quite challenging to get the players McPake has in mind.
1. Do they want to come to the Pars?
2. Is their club prepared to release them?
3. Can we afford their wage demands?
4. Are other clubs with more financial muscle in for them?
5. Are they of good character and unlikely to disrupt the harmony in the squad?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 4 Jan 19:54
Point 3 from GG`s post .. can we afford their wage demands ?
I would say No .. If the figures I have seen are correct then our weekly wage bill is around £17,000 thats £930,000 a season .. Now tin hat on .. I said IF correct .. but that is only the players wages .. factor in manager .. assistant manager .. coaches .. and the high heid yins .. Security .. electric .. stadium maintenance .. probably police after the last debacle ..where are we getting the money from ? Its not from season tickets or turnstiles .. maybe Deutschland ?
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 4 Jan 20:03
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 4 Jan 18:37
I`m surprised there weren`t more people with alarm bells after they decided to double down on the training facilities and then needing additional "funding partners" to secure the first shovel in the ground.
Why do people think that these investors are multi billionaires who are going to pump millions upon millions into the club? 🤔
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Thu 4 Jan 20:05
Isn`t that the same every year ?
Isn`t that the same for every club ?
Remember Stevie Crawford got the players he wanted and we we`re generally happy with them. Only problem was he couldn`t manage them very well.
So we managed to get the money from somewhere then.
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Thu 4 Jan 20:59
Maybe we are feeling the effects of 2021/22 when two utter dunces spent a fortune on horse manure.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Thu 4 Jan 21:07
Like every business there is a budget to work to. The management obviously have to work within that and balance it against the players who become available and who would be willing to come here. The challenge is to work out our realistic achievements this season and any money that will bring in at the end. Fir me it remains a long term plan that is needed to break the cycle over the last few seasons.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Thu 4 Jan 21:27
17k a week wage bill as another poster has stated🤷 Jesus I hope the club has a good insurance with all the injuries etc.
So on average every player wold be on approx £740 a week… as we have a lot of young players never on that amount etc the club needs to either let the young guys go or invest again and play these young players?
Post Edited (Thu 04 Jan 21:34)
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Topic Originator: Neebur
Date: Thu 4 Jan 21:56
The club wont have insurance,premiums would be astronomical and thats if an insurance would touch them
Insurance will up to the individual player
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Thu 4 Jan 22:44
Row_zz not sure who you mean in terms of signed players? Harsh on yogi who paid a fee for chalmers and who mcpake has since offered a longer term deal too. Don’t think he signed much else?
Grant signed mehmet, who again mcpake has offered a longer term deal too aswell but yes there was plenty of dross which we managed to let go, still kept too many tho.
Some of these have become mcpakes mistakes now…
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 4 Jan 23:11
Wait am I seeing things? Unless I`m mistaken someone is trying to defend the 2 previous managers? The 2 of them set us back about 5 years. This forum and certain posters never fail to amaze me.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Thu 4 Jan 23:26
Quote:
Neebur, Thu 4 Jan 21:56
The club wont have insurance,premiums would be astronomical and thats if an insurance would touch them
Insurance will up to the individual player
By "The club" do you mean ours or yours, ie Raith?
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Thu 4 Jan 23:38
Quote:
parsfan, Thu 4 Jan 23:26
Quote:
Neebur, Thu 4 Jan 21:56
The club wont have insurance,premiums would be astronomical and thats if an insurance would touch them
Insurance will up to the individual player
By "The club" do you mean ours or yours, ie Raith?
Players will also have their own insurance
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Thu 4 Jan 23:57
Topic Originator: Berkey like
Date: Thu 4 Jan 22:44
Row_zz not sure who you mean in terms of signed players? Harsh on yogi who paid a fee for chalmers and who mcpake has since offered a longer term deal too. Don’t think he signed much else?
Grant signed mehmet, who again mcpake has offered a longer term deal too aswell but yes there was plenty of dross which we managed to let go, still kept too many tho.
Some of these have become mcpakes mistakes now…
Kai Kennedy, Liam Polworth, Graham Dorrans, Reece Cole, Ross Graham, Efe Ambrose. Despite some being loans, they would have all been on decent money. The balloon Grant also gave a full time contract to Leon Jones, who was signed straight from College Soccer in USA. Boy never kicked a ball for us.
Despite putting himself about and pulling the wool over people`s eyes, Dan Pybus was another dross signing. Steven Lawless is another that would have took a good wage off us but gave very little back.
In all, the waste of wages that season was frightening. Player and management wise. All of this surely must have hit our finances massively. I genuinely feared the worst when we got relegated, but fair play to McPake, he managed to tweak things here and there and add some fresh faces that bounced us straight back in what could have been a very tricky season.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 5 Jan 01:05
Quote:
neilholland999, Thu 4 Jan 18:01
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Thu 4 Jan 16:59
I would say we need players now. We probably didn’t a few weeks ago?
Disagree with you there. A blind man can see that we`ve been needing another striker since the start of the season, and probably another winger to provide cover/ competition for KRH.
Others have been saying for a while now that we need a better keeper.
Unfortunately, recent events have also decimated our defence.
I said we probably didn’t need players a few weeks ago as the club didn’t expect Benedictus, Breen, Fisher, Todd, Summers, Otoo and McCann to get injured again ?
We already have Wighton, Jakubiak and McCann on the books and a keeper on a three year deal, so I’m not sure how much scope there would have been to add to this ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Fri 05 Jan 01:09)
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Fri 5 Jan 06:49
"The balloon Grant also gave a full time contract to Leon Jones, who was signed straight from College Soccer in USA. Boy never kicked a ball for us."
Ah, good old Lok On. Shirt sales alone should have covered his wages! I wonder what he`s up to now. Would be a good subject matter for the When Saturdays Come feature "The Curious Case of..."
I seem to remember he started the Raith game that got abandoned when the floodlights failed? Seemed to recall he did OK too. He then disappeared only to return I think once more and look like he`d never played the game before.
"I said we probably didn’t need players a few weeks ago as the club didn’t expect Benedictus, Breen, Fisher, Todd, Summers, Otoo and McCann to get injured again?"
With respect, only having three out and out centre backs in the squad and playing a back three every week is a bit odd. It`s all fine and well saying that Comrie, Hamilton and Otoo can play there but you`ll always get suspensions and injuries and if you`re having to shift players about then that doesn`t lead to a settled team. When the likes of Murray and O`Reilly were available and went down the road, its a bit frustrating. And I know he said he wanted to go with 3 strikers but McCann often plays wide on the left so I`d argue we needed another centre forward anyway.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Fri 5 Jan 08:43
I think it was Greg Shields who played a big part in us signing Leon Jones after seeing him in America? I see he is playing in Hong Kong now.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Fri 5 Jan 09:01
“Wait am I seeing things? Unless I`m mistaken someone is trying to defend the 2 previous managers? The 2 of them set us back about 5 years. This forum and certain posters never fail to amaze me.”
The board are the reason we were set back years due to the idiotic appointment of Peter Grant. The majority of fans were rightly in meltdown when he was brought in. I remember Meggle claimed he was impressed with Grant’s Alloa team when we thumped them 4-1 away from home. To this day I still cannot believe the logic in bringing him in. We really should have pushed on that season but that appointment ruined everything we had built on the season before.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 5 Jan 09:13
Quote:
RossF, Fri 5 Jan 09:01
“Wait am I seeing things? Unless I`m mistaken someone is trying to defend the 2 previous managers? The 2 of them set us back about 5 years. This forum and certain posters never fail to amaze me.”
The board are the reason we were set back years due to the idiotic appointment of Peter Grant. The majority of fans were rightly in meltdown when he was brought in. I remember Meggle claimed he was impressed with Grant’s Alloa team when we thumped them 4-1 away from home. To this day I still cannot believe the logic in bringing him in. We really should have pushed on that season but that appointment ruined everything we had built on the season before.
Unless I`m mistaken the board don`t choose which players the "manager" wants to sign. The board may have been duped by these 2 chancers but they were given pretty decent budgets to initially assemble a squad then try and repair it in January. The board didn`t choose Leon Jones or try to convince us Dom Thomas could play centre midfield and they certainly didn`t try to convince us Efe Ambrose was a football player. That`s on Grant/Hughes.
The board did not relegate us. With the budget they provided those 2 clowns should have been able to finish mid table at the very least
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Fri 05 Jan 09:15)
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 5 Jan 09:33
Should have kept Kyle Mcdonald, always gave 100%, put in some great cross balls.
Who have we replaced him with?
Michael Ohalloran, jury still out on that move!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 5 Jan 09:38
Why do so many fans love going over old ground and airing old grievances? My main concern is what sort of team we can put out tonight.
Re the transfer window the manager makes the point that the winter shutdown in the Premiership delays the prospect of getting deals done with those clubs.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Fri 5 Jan 09:57
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 5 Jan 09:38
Why do so many fans love going over old ground and airing old grievances? My main concern is what sort of team we can put out tonight.
Re the transfer window the manager makes the point that the winter shutdown in the Premiership delays the prospect of getting deals done with those clubs.
It`s a public forum they are entitled to discuss whatever they want just as you are allowed to comment on everyone`s post.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Fri 5 Jan 10:08
Looking at otoo and summers out for tonight too, unsure what the team will look like
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Fri 5 Jan 10:14
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wee eck, Fri 05 Jan 09:38
Why do so many fans love going over old ground and airing old grievances? My main concern is what sort of team we can put out tonight.
Re the transfer window the manager makes the point that the winter shutdown in the Premiership delays the prospect of getting deals done with those clubs.
Because those decisions by the board were probably the worst in our recent history. They cost us our place in the championship which should never have happened. We are still paying for those decisions today. 4 straight defeats from Raith Rovers for instance. The board and the two managers they hired have set us back years. A lot of fans were rightly concerned with the hiring of Grant right at the beginning.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 5 Jan 10:16
I`m not questioning their right to post what they like, just their priorities.
If Otoo and Summers are out we`re really struggling. The manager says it`s unlikely we`ll have any new signings today.
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Topic Originator: Swifty
Date: Fri 5 Jan 10:53
With our run of injuries this season, would it not have been prudent to have been speaking to SPL clubs before their winter shutdown? I appreciate it is always a difficult window and we couldn’t anticipate injuries to Breen and Fisher versus the Rovers, but we seem to be on the back foot when it comes to bolstering our squad for the second half of the season. Hopefully I’m proved wrong and we get some players in soon.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 5 Jan 11:04
This same conversation starts at every window. Of course the club and management team are speaking to other clubs. They`ll always be having conversations. The reason we don`t hear about it is that these are private conversations.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Fri 5 Jan 11:17
Makenzie Kirk signs new deal at Hearts and goes out on loan to Hamilton for the rest of the season .
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Fri 5 Jan 12:00
Ben Paton has just been released by Ross county. 23 years old and a creative midfielder who can play the deeper playmaker role which Chalmers occupies, think he`d be a fairly decent upgrade.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Fri 5 Jan 12:09
i think is still injured, is he any better now than when he was here on trial under Grant plus once Hamilton and Otoo are first choice he would never get a look in.
"Should have kept Kyle Mcdonald, always gave 100%, put in some great cross balls.
Who have we replaced him with?
Michael Ohalloran, jury still out on that move!"
O`Halloran replaced O`Hara in the squad.
can bring some good news to some anyway, Ambrose has stayed at QOS for the rest of the season.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Fri 5 Jan 12:24
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GJS93, Fri 5 Jan 12:09
i think is still injured, is he any better now than when he was here on trial under Grant plus once Hamilton and Otoo are first choice he would never get a look in.
"Should have kept Kyle Mcdonald, always gave 100%, put in some great cross balls.
Who have we replaced him with?
Michael Ohalloran, jury still out on that move!
O`Halloran replaced O`Hara in the squad.
can bring some good news to some anyway, Ambrose has stayed at QOS for the rest of the season.
Think he`s recovered from the injury and been training to get fit with Ross county for the past 2-3 months. Given the lack of options available in January he`s worth taking a look at again now he`s a couple years older.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 5 Jan 12:28
Isn`t it ironic how some say McPake shouldn`t have offered deals to anyone who was part of the relegated squad in 2021/22 regardless of what happened last season and others say he should have offered deals to MacDonald/Todorov/O`Hara who were part of that squad but not regular starters last season? That`s fitba` I suppose.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Fri 5 Jan 12:30
hamilton also snap up ben williamson from rangers
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Fri 5 Jan 12:35
Queens, Partick and Dunfermline show an interest in Lee Ashcroft.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Fri 5 Jan 13:26
“Unless I`m mistaken the board don`t choose which players the "manager" wants to sign. The board may have been duped by these 2 chancers but they were given pretty decent budgets to initially assemble a squad then try and repair it in January. The board didn`t choose Leon Jones or try to convince us Dom Thomas could play centre midfield and they certainly didn`t try to convince us Efe Ambrose was a football player. That`s on Grant/Hughes.
The board did not relegate us. With the budget they provided those 2 clowns should have been able to finish mid table at the very least”
Agreed. They should have at least got us mid-table but the fact remains…The board chose to hire an incompetent manager that the vast majority of us saw as a disaster, hence they need to take a massive chunk of the blame for the relegation. They gave him a budget any half decent manager could have mounted a title challenge with. The fact we approached him made it even more ridiculous.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 5 Jan 20:44
Surely we should give Joe cardle a short term deal. He won`t be asking for much I wouldn`t imagine.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Fri 5 Jan 20:46
Mcpake will be playing at this rate
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:10
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 20:44
Surely we should give Joe cardle a short term deal. He won`t be asking for much I wouldn`t imagine.
Nahh, can`t be having a forward in our team who can actually score
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Topic Originator: Kessel
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:17
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 20:44
Surely we should give Joe cardle a short term deal. He won`t be asking for much I wouldn`t imagine.
We`re in a crisis moment but the crisis isn`t that bad.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:21
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:17
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 20:44
Surely we should give Joe cardle a short term deal. He won`t be asking for much I wouldn`t imagine.
We`re in a crisis moment but the crisis isn`t that bad.
Are you watching this game ? Someone of the street would be an improvement
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Topic Originator: Kessel
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:23
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saltonsgonagetu, Fri 5 Jan 21:21
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:17
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 20:44
Surely we should give Joe cardle a short term deal. He won`t be asking for much I wouldn`t imagine.
We`re in a crisis moment but the crisis isn`t that bad.
Are you watching this game ? Someone of the street would be an improvement
Better signing you or me then than Cardle as we wouldn`t demand as much money. I`d play for the Pars for nothing.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:28
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:23
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saltonsgonagetu, Fri 5 Jan 21:21
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:17
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 20:44
Surely we should give Joe cardle a short term deal. He won`t be asking for much I wouldn`t imagine.
We`re in a crisis moment but the crisis isn`t that bad.
Are you watching this game ? Someone of the street would be an improvement
Better signing you or me then than Cardle as we wouldn`t demand as much money. I`d play for the Pars for nothing.
I`d bet you aren`t an ex prem player, with successful coaching academy , and would have better quality than almost all on that pitch
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Topic Originator: Kessel
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:34
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saltonsgonagetu, Fri 5 Jan 21:28
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:23
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saltonsgonagetu, Fri 5 Jan 21:21
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:17
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 20:44
Surely we should give Joe cardle a short term deal. He won`t be asking for much I wouldn`t imagine.
We`re in a crisis moment but the crisis isn`t that bad.
Are you watching this game ? Someone of the street would be an improvement
Better signing you or me then than Cardle as we wouldn`t demand as much money. I`d play for the Pars for nothing.
I`d bet you aren`t an ex prem player, with successful coaching academy , and would have better quality than almost all on that pitch
You were the one who said that signing someone off the street would be an improvement. I disagree. I also disagree that signing Joe Cardle would be an improvement. If we want complete mediocrity then I would maybe agree.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:38
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:34
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saltonsgonagetu, Fri 5 Jan 21:28
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:23
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saltonsgonagetu, Fri 5 Jan 21:21
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:17
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 20:44
Surely we should give Joe cardle a short term deal. He won`t be asking for much I wouldn`t imagine.
We`re in a crisis moment but the crisis isn`t that bad.
Are you watching this game ? Someone of the street would be an improvement
Better signing you or me then than Cardle as we wouldn`t demand as much money. I`d play for the Pars for nothing.
I`d bet you aren`t an ex prem player, with successful coaching academy , and would have better quality than almost all on that pitch
You were the one who said that signing someone off the street would be an improvement. I disagree. I also disagree that signing Joe Cardle would be an improvement. If we want complete mediocrity then I would maybe agree.
Tonight surely is complete mediocrity they haven`t won a game in months.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Kessel
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:39
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 21:38
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:34
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saltonsgonagetu, Fri 5 Jan 21:28
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:23
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saltonsgonagetu, Fri 5 Jan 21:21
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:17
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 20:44
Surely we should give Joe cardle a short term deal. He won`t be asking for much I wouldn`t imagine.
We`re in a crisis moment but the crisis isn`t that bad.
Are you watching this game ? Someone of the street would be an improvement
Better signing you or me then than Cardle as we wouldn`t demand as much money. I`d play for the Pars for nothing.
I`d bet you aren`t an ex prem player, with successful coaching academy , and would have better quality than almost all on that pitch
You were the one who said that signing someone off the street would be an improvement. I disagree. I also disagree that signing Joe Cardle would be an improvement. If we want complete mediocrity then I would maybe agree.
Tonight surely is complete mediocrity they haven`t won a game in months.
Tonight might be complete mediocrity but is that what you want? It`s certainly not what I want.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:41
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:39
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 21:38
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:34
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saltonsgonagetu, Fri 5 Jan 21:28
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:23
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saltonsgonagetu, Fri 5 Jan 21:21
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:17
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 20:44
Surely we should give Joe cardle a short term deal. He won`t be asking for much I wouldn`t imagine.
We`re in a crisis moment but the crisis isn`t that bad.
Are you watching this game ? Someone of the street would be an improvement
Better signing you or me then than Cardle as we wouldn`t demand as much money. I`d play for the Pars for nothing.
I`d bet you aren`t an ex prem player, with successful coaching academy , and would have better quality than almost all on that pitch
You were the one who said that signing someone off the street would be an improvement. I disagree. I also disagree that signing Joe Cardle would be an improvement. If we want complete mediocrity then I would maybe agree.
Tonight surely is complete mediocrity they haven`t won a game in months.
Tonight might be complete mediocrity but is that what you want? It`s certainly not what I want.
No but there are guys who would at least offer experience and better than our high earners unattached to a club while we keep getting thumped.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: obiwanyouknowme
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:42
This is brutal aye we have injuries but cmon.
Why does Summers always look injured when he needs to get back?
O’Halloran a waste of a shirt same as Wighton.
Let’s hope we don’t get dragged into relegation battle.
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Topic Originator: Kessel
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:43
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 21:41
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:39
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 21:38
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:34
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Kessel, Fri 5 Jan 21:23
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saltonsgonagetu, Fri 5 Jan 21:21
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 20:44
Surely we should give Joe cardle a short term deal. He won`t be asking for much I wouldn`t imagine.
We`re in a crisis moment but the crisis isn`t that bad.
Are you watching this game ? Someone of the street would be an improvement
Better signing you or me then than Cardle as we wouldn`t demand as much money. I`d play for the Pars for nothing.
I`d bet you aren`t an ex prem player, with successful coaching academy , and would have better quality than almost all on that pitch
You were the one who said that signing someone off the street would be an improvement. I disagree. I also disagree that signing Joe Cardle would be an improvement. If we want complete mediocrity then I would maybe agree.
Tonight surely is complete mediocrity they haven`t won a game in months.
Tonight might be complete mediocrity but is that what you want? It`s certainly not what I want.
No but there are guys who would at least offer experience and better than our high earners unattached to a club while we keep getting thumped.
There no doubt is Cammy. I agree. I dont think Joe Cardle is one of them bud.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:43
They haven`t won a game in 4 and a half months and they strolled it against us. I don`t know how some can try and defend that.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Kessel
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:45
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 21:43
They haven`t won a game in 4 and a half months and they strolled it against us. I don`t know how some can try and defend that.
Dunno is this is directed towards me but I`m not defending it 👍
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:50
Don’t think anyone is defending the poor show tonight - or previous ones. It’s trying to see something positive out of the negative that’s all. There has to be light at the end of the tunnel 🤷
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:51
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 21:43
They haven`t won a game in 4 and a half months and they strolled it against us. I don`t know how some can try and defend that.
It was like the walking wounded out there. Not sure what you expect? Wighton, Summers, Hamilton, Allan, MOH all wouldn’t normally have played.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:53
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Kdy Par, Fri 5 Jan 21:51
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 21:43
They haven`t won a game in 4 and a half months and they strolled it against us. I don`t know how some can try and defend that.
It was like the walking wounded out there. Not sure what you expect? Wighton, Summers, Hamilton, Allan, MOH all wouldn’t normally have played.
Doing the basics right would have been a start. Wighton isn`t championship quality neither is Allan.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Fri 5 Jan 21:53
If Cook and the board don`t think this situation requires several signings I don`t really know what to say, we are beyond ravaged by injuries. Find the money from somewhere and get some players in asap
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Fri 5 Jan 22:12
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 21:53
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Kdy Par, Fri 5 Jan 21:51
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 21:43
They haven`t won a game in 4 and a half months and they strolled it against us. I don`t know how some can try and defend that.
It was like the walking wounded out there. Not sure what you expect? Wighton, Summers, Hamilton, Allan, MOH all wouldn’t normally have played.
Doing the basics right would have been a start. Wighton isn`t championship quality neither is Allan.
Wighton is an easy target because he doesn’t run around like a headless chicken. He averages about 1 goal every 3 championship games. Which is absolutely fine.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Fri 5 Jan 22:14
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Kdy Par, Fri 5 Jan 22:12
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 21:53
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Kdy Par, Fri 5 Jan 21:51
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cammypar 1995, Fri 5 Jan 21:43
They haven`t won a game in 4 and a half months and they strolled it against us. I don`t know how some can try and defend that.
It was like the walking wounded out there. Not sure what you expect? Wighton, Summers, Hamilton, Allan, MOH all wouldn’t normally have played.
Doing the basics right would have been a start. Wighton isn`t championship quality neither is Allan.
Wighton is an easy target because he doesn’t run around like a headless chicken. He averages about 1 goal every 3 championship games. Which is absolutely fine.
Wighton doesn`t run around at all!
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Fri 5 Jan 22:23
We have picked up 2 points from 15 which is worrying
The other week someone was dong the stats about the teams below us , well since then we have dropped 2 points to Arbroath , 3 to Queens Park and 2 points to Ayr
which is a grand total of 7 points which was on the table for us and really we have threw them away between giving teams cheap goals !
Apart from injuries etc if you go back the games we have had a big hand in beating ourselves by giving away cheap goals or cannot defend a set piece
At present it is Grim reading after tonight and as it is looks as though it will only get worse !
We need some decent players in ! we need to forget about academy players of the future time to sort that out at a later date !
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 5 Jan 22:26
Sutherland looked lively. We got it wrong tonight. Played for a draw but should`ve just gone for it like we did in the end.
The big question is WHO is available to sign/loan?!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 5 Jan 22:28
Have ye got a pair of boots yersel, Wullie?
Cmon lads and lassies, step up !
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Fri 5 Jan 22:29
If managed correctly that`s the kind of players we need!
Even look at Reece Cole, Managed correctly, He is smashing it down south
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 5 Jan 22:32
More chance of getting Nat King Cole the way he was treated
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Fri 5 Jan 22:34
I am not saying Look at him to sign, I am saying look what good management does
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 5 Jan 22:35
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RMGpar, Fri 5 Jan 22:34
I am not saying Look at him to sign, I am saying look what good management does
Apologies
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Fri 5 Jan 22:40
That starting 11 should be good enough to at least not lose against the worst team in the league , after 90 minutes tonight we are the worst team in the league .
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Fri 5 Jan 22:42
Lorna , I still have my boots , the one`s you used to put nails into for the studs
so probably i don`t qualify for an Academy player and might not even get into the OAP team nowadays , 2 minutes and i would need oxygen , can hardly run for a bus these days !
All said and done we are all disappointed tonight , and if truth be told I would have took a draw tonight considering the state of the personnel we had to put out there tonight ! and to help some of them recover we need to get players in the door ASAP to give these guys a rest , before they end up on the injury list too
That was really the point I was trying to make , nobody is going out there not to try some cannot give their all because they are Kaput before they kick a ball
We virtually have our whole team Kaput now
Post Edited (Fri 05 Jan 22:43)
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Fri 5 Jan 22:49
Dinnae panic, Wee Eck will be on telling us we`re in 5th place, 1 point off 4th, 6 points away from bottom, what`s the problem thems is hard facts.
Doesn`t matter how we`ve actually been playing, a fact is a fact sure enough
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 5 Jan 22:59
I didn`t need to tell you as you just did. All I would say is that tonight`s result doesn`t mean a relegation fight is inevitable as some are saying. Even if half our injured players become available in the next few weeks we`ll be much stronger and it looks like McPake is looking for reinforcements too.
We`ve lost a lot of poor goals recently but our overall defensive record isn`t too bad compared with teams around us. I`ve always thought our main problem is creating chances rather than taking them.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Fri 5 Jan 23:10
Come on eck, forever the optimist I`ll give you that.
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Fri 5 Jan 23:11
I see Hamilton signed Andy Kirk’s laddie on loan from Hearts today, 26 goals and counting for Hearts B this season. Not a bad return for a 19 year old, will be worth keeping an eye on young Mackenzie.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 5 Jan 23:12
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Gaz3822, Fri 5 Jan 23:10
Come on eck, forever the optimist I`ll give you that.
He`s quite right tho
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Fri 5 Jan 23:15
They also signed Ben Williamson from rangers
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Fri 5 Jan 23:29
2 points from last possible 15. Of course it’s relegation form. Hardly any players to pick a team. Lucky it was only Queen’s Park as a half decent team would’ve destroyed us tonight
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 6 Jan 10:37
What worries me is we have not been active to bring players in right at the start of the transfer window. Mcpake looked exhausted and frustrated last night. We need experienced players in as a matter of urgency, at least 2 before the end of next week. Cook doing a terrible job.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 6 Jan 10:44
`What worries me is we have not been active to bring players in right at the start of the transfer window`.
That contradicts what McPake has said. We may not have signed anyone but there`s no evidence we`ve been inactive. How many times does it have to be explained how the transfer window works?
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 6 Jan 10:51
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Bannockburn Par, Sat 6 Jan 10:37
What worries me is we have not been active to bring players in right at the start of the transfer window. Mcpake looked exhausted and frustrated last night. We need experienced players in as a matter of urgency, at least 2 before the end of next week. Cook doing a terrible job.
I thought he looked a bit dejected myself. We all get like that sometimes. It shows he cares. Just needs to lift his head maintain eye contact and go again. I`m sure he will. Sometimes circumstances conspire against you and there is nothing you can do except push through it.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 6 Jan 11:10
Sam Wardrop still seeking a club. I`m not his agent but surely worth a look for a contract to the end of the season? Guy is fit and ready to go.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 6 Jan 11:32
Quote:
jake89, Sat 6 Jan 11:10
Sam Wardrop still seeking a club. I`m not his agent but surely worth a look for a contract to the end of the season? Guy is fit and ready to go.
I`d take him right now, or at least get him in to see how sharp he is.
Good to hear an actual suggestion. I`m sure folk will be along shortly to tell you how terrible he is but offer no alternatives themselves.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 6 Jan 11:54
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Sat 6 Jan 11:30
Quote:
jake89, Sat 6 Jan 11:10
Sam Wardrop still seeking a club. I`m not his agent but surely worth a look for a contract to the end of the season? Guy is fit and ready to go.
Why you even remotely consider signing him? His record is shocking. Just literally give up if we sign the like of him.
I`m suggesting taking a look at him. He`s an option who could start immediately if put through a training session and considered good enough.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sat 6 Jan 13:59
"Ross Stewart GK signs for Partick."
and have put him on the bench despite having a 2 game suspension...
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 6 Jan 14:37
Where did they sign him from?
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 6 Jan 14:38
Quote:
GJS93, Sat 6 Jan 13:59
"Ross Stewart GK signs for Partick."
and have put him on the bench despite having a 2 game suspension...
Is that not against the rules? Surely, if he`s suspended, he can`t come on, so what`s the point of having him on the bench?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Sat 6 Jan 14:45
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 6 Jan 14:37
Where did they sign him from?
Hearts
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 6 Jan 23:37
Record reporting that Partick, Raith and Dundee Utd are after Dom Thomas. Raith and Utd seem to be linked with everyone! Can’t seem him improving them to be honest.
Also, Callum Davidson is the frontrunning for the Queen’s Park job. Decent appointment if that happens.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 7 Jan 00:26
But it will certainly weaken Queen’s Park
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Sun 7 Jan 00:42
"Ross Stewart GK signs for Partick."
and have put him on the bench despite having a 2 game suspension...”
Where’s that coming from, he’s not on the latest SFA suspension list(even tho that’s November he hasn’t been at a club since)
On Thomas I would be quite surprised if someone was willing to pay a fee for him + pay him the wages needed to force a move.
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Topic Originator: Parster
Date: Sun 7 Jan 06:54
Stevie may incoming
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Sun 7 Jan 08:48
17 games 0 goals this season, sounds about right!
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sun 7 Jan 09:33
Personally, I think that Stevie May will be good signing and score goals at this level. He’s maybe not good enough for the premier league but the step down might do him and us a bit of good.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sun 7 Jan 09:49
I think he`d be an upgrade but there are other areas that we need players more urgently.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 7 Jan 10:27
Lots of speculation around QP with Dom Thomas allegedly moving and Callum Davidson coming in as manager. One piece of hard news is that Leeann Dempster has quit as Chief Executive after three years at the club. I presume she recruited the Belgian coach who was sacked recently after less than half a season.
Post Edited (Sun 07 Jan 10:29)
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 7 Jan 11:03
Will the QP caretaker manager not get the job?
I see he was getting help from Hopkin who was sitting up in the stand observing the game.
Might be their dream team.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sun 7 Jan 11:54
"Where’s that coming from, he’s not on the latest SFA suspension list(even tho that’s November he hasn’t been at a club since)"
he got a ban for his role in the fracas at the end of the Hibs game at the end of last season although reading a thing about Carlisle trying to sign him last month, he apparently signed for someone "in an emergency situation for a week" and was still registered with that club so couldnt sign for them outside the window....so that would be the ban done at that club whoever it was.
back to us and with Comrie`s injury, Michael Doyle, right back who is at Cove the now is coming to the end of a short term contract. any defender that is currently fit has to be considered.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Sun 7 Jan 19:42
Peter Pawlett signs for Peterhead. He seems to have drifted recently but should be good at that level.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Mon 8 Jan 09:21
What’s Mvoto up to these days? Big physical CB that can also play as a striker. Sign him up.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Mon 8 Jan 16:49
Robbie Mahon returns to Motherwell after a loan at Edinburgh City.
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Mon 8 Jan 16:55
Let him stay there.
G.B
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Mon 8 Jan 17:10
There was one game Mahon was poor (might have been at home to Airdrie) but other than hat thought he had something about him. Not what is needed though. Need to get defenders in.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Mon 8 Jan 17:19
Mvoto is playing in the 5th Tier of German Football, essentially a regional division.
Post Edited (Mon 08 Jan 17:19)
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Mon 8 Jan 17:59
What about big Vytas ?
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Mon 8 Jan 18:12
Mahon would be great if we played with proper wingers
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Topic Originator: dpard
Date: Mon 8 Jan 18:12
Quote:
RMGpar, Mon 8 Jan 17:59
What about big Vytas ?
Currently a free agent
The flame still burns
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Topic Originator: dafc111
Date: Mon 8 Jan 18:24
Mahon has a pretty good return for Edinburgh, 7 goals in 16 appearances for a team rock bottom of the division. Never really got a kick with us last season. Can see a championship side taking him on loan for the remainder of the season if Motherwell are looking to loan him out again.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Mon 8 Jan 18:41
Probably wouldn`t be able to get Gaspuitis in again without having to jump through the Home Office`s hoops which could take a while and no guarantee he`d get a visa this time sadly. I liked him, and Hughes bombing him out was one of the worse 5hings that buffoon did IMO.
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Topic Originator: Swifty
Date: Mon 8 Jan 18:42
Another day has come and gone in the January transfer window. We’ve probably have about 8 key players out injured. With two important home games on the horizon we must surely get some new players in for Saturday. We don’t know what is going on behind the scenes, and whether or not approaches to clubs are in progress or have been knocked back. Patience is a virtue!
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Mon 8 Jan 18:52
Re: Vytas. I believe it is different if the player has international caps and has been involved in the national side.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Mon 8 Jan 19:04
Yes, that`s how we got him previously. Still took a while back then and he was a regular in the squad. Not sure what his status with the national team is now, and whether he`d still be able to get in.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Mon 8 Jan 19:10
not really, he still wouldnt qualify automatically so it would be the appeal process again which i doubt he would get through now.
other point kelty mentions about taking a while, that massively reduces the options unless the club had already started on one/more weeks ago for any foreign player.
speaking of which i wonder who the Ghanian was that got mentioned at the last supporters meeting and and how/why he was refused
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 9 Jan 07:55
According to the Courier five clubs have made an offer to Raith`s Dan O`Reilly who is out of contract.
Goalkeeper Callan McKenna of Q Park is attracting interest from Arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd. He has been on trial at United and they are favourites to sign him in a deal which could be worth around £1m. He was in goals when we beat them 2-0 at Hampden earlier in the season.
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Topic Originator: dafc111
Date: Tue 9 Jan 13:11
Dundee Utd have signed David Wotherspoon
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Tue 9 Jan 13:17
talking of ex loanee`s that might mean Mochrie is available and add in Todd`s injury if its a long term one....
Mahon rumoured to be signing for Dundalk in Ireland.
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Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par
Date: Tue 9 Jan 15:03
I think Summers and Moffat are quite similar in style to Mochrie, so it is not really an area of great need, especially with the system we play.
A centre back has to be the priority, after that perhaps a right wing-back if Comrie is out for a while and also a ball winning central midfielder. Possibly another striker if Jak`s injury is medium/long term.
Obviously any extra body of decent quality, like Mochrie would be a boost, but it would be low down my list of priorities. There won`t be too many options either, this is the time for the management/recruitment team to really earn their corn.
Post Edited (Tue 09 Jan 16:34)
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Tue 9 Jan 15:09
Inverness weakened with Wotherspoon moving to UTD.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 9 Jan 16:43
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Tue 9 Jan 16:33
Quote:
dafc111, Tue 9 Jan 13:11
Dundee Utd have signed David Wotherspoon
What a monumental mess we’ve made of that signing
How so?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Tue 9 Jan 16:53
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Tue 9 Jan 16:33
Quote:
dafc111, Tue 9 Jan 13:11
Dundee Utd have signed David Wotherspoon
What a monumental mess we’ve made of that signing
How’s that? We offered him the best deal we could afford.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 9 Jan 16:57
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Tue 9 Jan 16:53
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da_no_1, Tue 9 Jan 16:43
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JamesAndrew74, Tue 9 Jan 16:33
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dafc111, Tue 9 Jan 13:11
Dundee Utd have signed David Wotherspoon
What a monumental mess we’ve made of that signing
How so?
3 months at the club and we don’t make it happen, swallow your pride and sign him. He was always better than we had in midfield and we should have signed him up for a year.
Only a fool wouldn’t have done so.
I know nothing about what went on behind the scenes or what we offered. Do you?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Tue 9 Jan 16:57
The Wotherspoon ship has sailed forget about it.
We need a CH pronto and hopefully before Saturday..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 9 Jan 16:57
As mentioned Mochrie is defo not the type of signing we need right now.
Surely we’re one of the 5 who have made an offer to the guy at raith? Here’s open we’ve a few offers out, I would be surprised if we put a decent package together for wotherspoon but we were not able to compete with Utd.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Tue 9 Jan 17:20
That’s really interesting, please keep talking about it.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 9 Jan 17:24
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Tue 9 Jan 17:08
Quote:
Kdy Par, Tue 9 Jan 16:53
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Tue 9 Jan 16:33
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dafc111, Tue 9 Jan 13:11
Dundee Utd have signed David Wotherspoon
What a monumental mess we’ve made of that signing
How’s that? We offered him the best deal we could afford.
Something far wrong when Inverness offer more in that case and we can’t match them. he was really keen on signing and that’s fact as his family live in the town and know his cousin. The issue lies deeper in that case.
If he was "really keen" you must know why he didn`t sign?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Tue 9 Jan 18:20
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Tue 9 Jan 18:02
Quote:
da_no_1, Tue 9 Jan 17:24
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Tue 9 Jan 17:08
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Kdy Par, Tue 9 Jan 16:53
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JamesAndrew74, Tue 9 Jan 16:33
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dafc111, Tue 9 Jan 13:11
Dundee Utd have signed David Wotherspoon
What a monumental mess we’ve made of that signing
How’s that? We offered him the best deal we could afford.
Something far wrong when Inverness offer more in that case and we can’t match them. he was really keen on signing and that’s fact as his family live in the town and know his cousin. The issue lies deeper in that case.
If he was "really keen" you must know why he didn`t sign?
I do actually and won’t say on here except he did want to sign for us. Maybe a question at the next fans forum and see what Cook tells you
Couldn`t have been that keen if he`d rather drive up the A9,
Probably only wanted a 3 month deal and we weren`t prepared for that.
It wouldn`t matter anyway cos he`d still be away to united
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 9 Jan 18:22
Already asked at the last forum.
It’s just getting boring now
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 9 Jan 18:25
JA74 is another one of these posters who seems to find it impossible to say anything positive about the club.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Tue 9 Jan 18:28
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 9 Jan 18:25
JA74 is another one of these posters who seems to find it impossible to say anything positive about the club.
What he doesn`t realise is wetherspoon was really keen on signing for anyone who would meet his terms,
We weren`t prepared to meet them.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 9 Jan 18:31
No, it was another reason. I know what it was but I`m not going to tell. I just wanted everyone to know that I know, because I`m super special, or so my mummy tells me. Bet you all wish you were special and had a hotline to Scottish Championship players. Me and Davey (he lets me call him that but not you) have little coffee catch-ups all the time at an artisan coffee shop on the outskirts of Dunkeld.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 9 Jan 18:40
It did remind me a bit of the school playground, jake - primary school that is.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 9 Jan 18:49
To be fair, we had McGowan and Wotherspoon training for ages and of course McGowan played several games as a trialist, then both ended up at "smaller" clubs on (presumably) lower wages than we could offer. Given the difference in prize money and gates that making the play offs afford, I was surprised we didn`t push the boat out a bit more. Especially given we then brought in Jakubiak who (again guessing) you`d think wouldn`t be a cheap option. I have heard (yeah yeah, I know) that the board were very keen on younger players and that older players were only to come in as a last resort and the summer does seem to suggest that. Everyone from the outside looking in were surprised that we didn`t build on the League One title and concentrated on giving new contracts to existing players so it wasn`t just some Pars fans who were surprised at that lack of momentum coming up.
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Tue 9 Jan 19:14
Quote:
jake89, Tue 09 Jan 18:31
No, it was another reason. I know what it was but I`m not going to tell. I just wanted everyone to know that I know, because I`m super special, or so my mummy tells me. Bet you all wish you were special and had a hotline to Scottish Championship players. Me and Davey (he lets me call him that but not you) have little coffee catch-ups all the time at an artisan coffee shop on the outskirts of Dunkeld.
😂😂😂😂
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Topic Originator: 13en
Date: Tue 9 Jan 19:21
Daniel O’Reilly rejects raith for another championship club
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Tue 9 Jan 19:21
Dan O`Reilly has signed for Partick Thistle.
Would have been an ideal signing for us.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Tue 9 Jan 19:32
Why do folk on here moan about a player when they are with us then say they`d take him back at every transfer window after he goes just really bizarre.
O`Reilly strolled the game against us and would be really surprised if we didn`t offer him a deal not so surprised he went elsewhere though.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Tue 9 Jan 19:35
Would have been an ideal signing for us back when Rovers signed him too.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 9 Jan 19:44
Rovers must be gutted that he`s gone to Thistle. I thought they had money to burn?
18 month deal I see; maybe that made a difference?
Post Edited (Tue 09 Jan 19:49)
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Topic Originator: bannerpar
Date: Tue 9 Jan 20:12
I mentioned O`Reilly on here in the summer when a number of posters were saying we needed cover at centre back and again when Bene got injured in September. He was a free agent for quite a while and nobody seemed too interested until Raith took a chance on him. Maybe he just wants to have a team nearer home as I think he has a job as a personal trainer or maybe he has a few quid on Partick getting promotion.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Tue 9 Jan 21:00
O’Reilly would have been a decent signing in the summer but McPake doesn’t seem comfortable bringing in experienced players him or McKay haven’t played with or managed. The only experienced pros we have brought in have all been players who were involved at some point with the two of them. The rest have been younger players. That’s probably why we are linked with Ashcroft and May. They tick these boxes.
I hope I’m wrong but I feel like it’s going to be another frustrating window where each week we hope something will happen only to be disappointed. The only difference is, this time…we’re desperate.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 9 Jan 21:21
I don`t think it`s as easy as some folk seem to think. We may only need a CB for 2 or 3 weeks, depending on the prognoses for Bene, Breen, Fisher, Otoo. Anyone coming in, or his club, might be looking for a move which will more or less guarantee a start for the rest of the season. To give that assurance we might have to sacrifice one of our own players. Another problem might be that the availability of players may depend on a lending club being able to bring someone in from elsewhere. We might not be in a position to wait that long.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 9 Jan 21:30
We`re in a WORSE position than other teams IMO. We NEED signings to simply backfill injured players. Anyone signed on a 6 month loan is guaranteed to start. Similarly, someone offered an 18 month contract can almost guarantee they have the first 6 months to prove themselves as the competition is out injured.
How are teams like Patrick offering more appealing contracts? We`ve a bigger fan base, decent backers, lifeline payments and I can`t imagine overheads for the likes of EEP are much different to Firhill. Where`s the money going?
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Tue 9 Jan 21:30
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wee eck, Tue 9 Jan 21:21
I don`t think it`s as easy as some folk seem to think. We may only need a CB for 2 or 3 weeks, depending on the prognoses for Bene, Breen, Fisher, Otoo. Anyone coming in, or his club, might be looking for a move which will more or less guarantee a start for the rest of the season. To give that assurance we might have to sacrifice one of our own players. Another problem might be that the availability of players may depend on a lending club being able to bring someone in from elsewhere. We might not be in a position to wait that long.
It’s called Competition
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Tue 9 Jan 21:35
Quote:
jake89, Tue 9 Jan 21:30
We`re in a WORSE position than other teams IMO. We NEED signings to simply backfill injured players. Anyone signed on a 6 month loan is guaranteed to start. Similarly, someone offered an 18 month contract can almost guarantee they have the first 6 months to prove themselves as the competition is out injured.
How are teams like Patrick offering more appealing contracts? We`ve a bigger fan base, decent backers, lifeline payments and I can`t imagine overheads for the likes of EEP are much different to Firhill. Where`s the money going?
We operated at a loss last season. The money is gone,
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 9 Jan 21:41
I think Partick had to replace a loanee who was recalled by Motherwell (?) so they are replacing one cost with another. We are looking to replace players who are still on the payroll.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Tue 9 Jan 21:46
Anyone trying to defend the clubs lack of signings in the current crisis needs to take their black and white blinkers off.
In previous windows we get the usual garbage of “ we’re only looking to make signings if it’s an improvement on what we have”. Spin for we aren’t particularly active. As if any other club doesn’t have the same motive when they look for players.
There really must be new faces in the door before Saturday in what is a desperate situation. An inability to do so would be concerning.
A signing not only improves our depleted squad but it gives players and fans a lift and watching last Friday that’s definitely needed.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 9 Jan 21:51
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 9 Jan 19:44
Rovers must be gutted that he`s gone to Thistle. I thought they had money to burn?
18 month deal I see; maybe that made a difference?
That was the key. Raith offered 6 months
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 9 Jan 21:53
Quote:
weemike, Tue 9 Jan 21:35
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jake89, Tue 9 Jan 21:30
We`re in a WORSE position than other teams IMO. We NEED signings to simply backfill injured players. Anyone signed on a 6 month loan is guaranteed to start. Similarly, someone offered an 18 month contract can almost guarantee they have the first 6 months to prove themselves as the competition is out injured.
How are teams like Patrick offering more appealing contracts? We`ve a bigger fan base, decent backers, lifeline payments and I can`t imagine overheads for the likes of EEP are much different to Firhill. Where`s the money going?
We operated at a loss last season. The money is gone,
This is the main problem. You have to read between the lines in Cook’s statements
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Tue 9 Jan 21:59
Quote:
How are teams like Patrick offering more appealing contracts? We`ve a bigger fan base, decent backers, lifeline payments and I can`t imagine overheads for the likes of EEP are much different to Firhill. Where`s the money going?
We operated at a loss last season.
To be fair, most Scottish clubs operate at a loss and depend on inward investment. Thistle have their AGM on Thursday and will announce a £350k loss for y/e May 2023 - it would have been a £600k loss had it not been for a televised cup match with Rangers.
https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/ptfc-board-pre-agm-update-18-12-23/
However, in October they secured a 500k investment by new Board members, with a further 500k coming along later, giving the new investors 20% of the club. Interestingly, even after this investment the PTFC Trust will still own 51% of the club, thanks to the wishes of the late Colin Weir, so Thistle will remain a supporter-owned club.
https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/partick-thistle-fc-announces-strategic-investment/
Post Edited (Tue 09 Jan 22:00)
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Tue 9 Jan 22:10
Quote:
Stanza, Tue 9 Jan 21:59
Quote:
How are teams like Patrick offering more appealing contracts? We`ve a bigger fan base, decent backers, lifeline payments and I can`t imagine overheads for the likes of EEP are much different to Firhill. Where`s the money going?
We operated at a loss last season.
To be fair, most Scottish clubs operate at a loss and depend on inward investment. Thistle have their AGM on Thursday and will announce a £350k loss for y/e May 2023 - it would have been a £600k loss had it not been for a televised cup match with Rangers.
https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/ptfc-board-pre-agm-update-18-12-23/
However, in October they secured a 500k investment by new Board members, with a further 500k coming along later, giving the new investors 20% of the club. Interestingly, even after this investment the PTFC Trust will still own 51% of the club, thanks to the wishes of the late Colin Weir, so Thistle will remain a supporter-owned club.
https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/partick-thistle-fc-announces-strategic-investment/
Partick got boat loads of prize money last year,
We got nada,
We also paid a fee for players in the summer,
We are also planning upgrading the training facilities.
Any income we have is spoken for and that includes the Nisbet money.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 9 Jan 22:14
Who is defending the lack of signings? I can only speak for myself but I am simply pointing out some practical problems in making signings. In any transfer window it is the selling or lending club which is in the driving seat. If they are not prepared to let a player go or the player doesn`t fancy the move there`s not much a club like ours can do. The other market is players who are out of contract but they are rare in January unless a club releases them.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Wed 10 Jan 06:41
I suppose it all comes down to the board and if they think we can avoid relegation. That performance on Friday was up there with one of the worst (from any club) this season. So there is a decent possibility we could go straight back down. The starting 11 should have been capable of getting something out that game.
We severely lack leadership in the team and that has to be on McPake. It’s alright signing all these young guys up but they won’t save us when the going gets tough.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 10 Jan 08:13
James McPake has denied he is interested in signing Stevie May. He also says the board are doing all they can to help him strengthen the squad. (From the Courier).
Post Edited (Wed 10 Jan 08:25)
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Wed 10 Jan 08:50
I think it’s pretty clear they all read this forum then! Looking forward to seeing who gets brought in.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Wed 10 Jan 09:46
Just heard Ashcroft is apparently going to the Rovers.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Wed 10 Jan 09:58
We really seem to be struggling in the transfer market, not sure if it is just down to a lack of funds though.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 10 Jan 10:50
Scott Burns reckons Dundee are after a striker, a LB and a defender. Surely they`ll offload to make way.....
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Wed 10 Jan 11:50
Quote:
The Boss, Wed 10 Jan 09:46
Just heard Ashcroft is apparently going to the Rovers.
We should start ‘leaking’ our interest in awful players, so that Rovers end up signing them.
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Topic Originator: the saline hill puma
Date: Wed 10 Jan 12:09
Quote:
da_no_1, Wed 10 Jan 10:50
Scott Burns reckons Dundee are after a striker, a LB and a defender. Surely they`ll offload to make way.....
They`ve had several loan players recalled by parent clubs, so probably have the room already
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 10 Jan 12:40
I heard we`re interested in re-signing Edinho. McPake has suggested he`s a big fan of the Brazilian and hopes to coax him out of retirement.
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Wed 10 Jan 13:26
I would think we will just soldier on with what we have and hope we finish 8th .
G.B
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Wed 10 Jan 15:05
Kyle Turner and Ashcroft signing for the Rovers this week.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Wed 10 Jan 15:16
2 very good signings at this level if true. Grim!
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Wed 10 Jan 15:20
It`s gonna get embarrassing if the Rovers keep nicking players we`re interested in.
All it keeps saying is..WE`RE FKN SKINT
Maybe have to get used to that reality, grim all the same.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 10 Jan 15:28
I thought the Rovers were well covered in midfield. Is Shaun Byrne staying?
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Wed 10 Jan 15:37
Sam Stanton has an injury. Don`t know if it`s long term though.
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Topic Originator: The moose
Date: Wed 10 Jan 15:46
Quote:
Gaz3822, Wed 10 Jan 15:20
It`s gonna get embarrassing if the Rovers keep nicking players we`re interested in.
All it keeps saying is..WE`RE FKN SKINT
Maybe have to get used to that reality, grim all the same.
Don`t think the Board have any intentions of giving the Gaffer any dosh for new players.
Really poor show! No ambition. 😢😢
BCM
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 10 Jan 15:59
Well that contradicts what McPake told the Courier.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 10 Jan 16:14
Tbh, if Raith are signing up players from the likes of QP, then it`s good news for us if we want to survive the season.
It`s a bit of a risky one for them and Dundee Utd as they both sound like they`re financially screwed (DU are seemingly losing a small fortune!) and only one can get promoted.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 10 Jan 16:18
Who are they signing from QP?
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Topic Originator: Lambo1885
Date: Wed 10 Jan 16:27
"Who are they signing from QP?"
They are supposedly interested in Dom Thomas.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 10 Jan 16:27
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 10 Jan 15:59
Well that contradicts what McPake told the Courier.
To be fair, what else would you expect him to say? “We are down to less than the bare bones, but can’t see us signing anyone”
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 10 Jan 16:36
It depends if you think the manager`s a bare-faced liar, Raymie. Don`t you believe him when he says he`s trying to sign players? Weren`t we one of the clubs trying to sign O`Reilly?
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Wed 10 Jan 16:42
I imagine we have a budget and framework to operate within. I don`t think we want to go back to the situation we were in a few seasons ago. No doubt we are working to bring people in but at the end of the day if we can`t we have to get by and get on with it. We are not going to win these league at best we are looking at 3rd or 4th and a playoff spot. We are not a team (yet) who can compete in a higher league to need to build on the team we have, let the younger players gain experience and push on next year or the year after. If it was easy we would all be football managers. Tough times ahead maybe but that`s life.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 10 Jan 16:43
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 10 Jan 16:36
It depends if you think the manager`s a bare-faced liar, Raymie. Don`t you believe him when he says he`s trying to sign players? Weren`t we one of the clubs trying to sign O`Reilly?
I`d hope we were but unfortunately it will be only a select few who can honestly answer that question.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Wed 10 Jan 16:49
Quote:
The Boss, Wed 10 Jan 15:05
Kyle Turner and Ashcroft signing for the Rovers this week.
Rovers owner must be absolutely loaded or he`s saddling the club with debt.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Wed 10 Jan 16:50
Technically you can say they`re saying the right things about signings but in reality I think they know most other teams will beat them to it because of money matters.
If they came out and said `no happening coz we`re skint` folk would probably respect that, because it`s what we think anyway, and dilly dallying about reinforces it.
It`s all fair and well saying you`re trying to sign someone, but if you`re offering £50 a week you know you`ve no chance.
If we don`t know the facts, and we don`t obviously, then the wool can be pulled over our eyes.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 10 Jan 16:54
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 10 Jan 16:36
It depends if you think the manager`s a bare-faced liar, Raymie. Don`t you believe him when he says he`s trying to sign players? Weren`t we one of the clubs trying to sign O`Reilly?
That’s not what I’m saying, wee eck. I’m merely suggesting that football is rife with stock answers to standard questions. Just watch any pre or post match interview from whomever manager you wish
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 10 Jan 16:59
So don`t you think he`s trying to sign anyone or are you saying he`s doing so without financial support? You say it`s easy for managers to come up with stock answers but it`s even easier for punters on a forum to come up with any theory they want with no foundation!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 10 Jan 17:02
Nobody knows the answer to that on here. I’m merely giving you my interpretation of the current situation. The latter fwiw.
I could be talking Shiite, of course ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Wed 10 Jan 17:16
We will probably sign a couple of loan deals where the player is approaching the end of their contract, similar to Otoo and KRH,
the wages will be cheaper as the parent club will pick up some of the tab.
And we get a chance to try before we buy.
I`m willing to bet Rangers and celtic were subsidising Otoo and KRH last year which will be an even bigger shock to this year`s budget.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 10 Jan 17:19
Cheers, Raymie. Having listened to McPake for the last 18 months I`d say, as managers go, he`s pretty honest with the fans - except when he`s telling us about injuries in his match previews!
As I explained yesterday I think we`re in a pretty difficult position trying to attract players in this window because our problem is trying to cover an injury crisis which (hopefully) is only temporary but we don`t know for sure how long it`s going to last unless things have got a lot clearer since last Friday.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Wed 10 Jan 17:34
Kyle Turner signs for Raith on loan. Fantastic signing for them. Depressing from our point of view
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Wed 10 Jan 17:35
Cracking signing for Raith, seen he was out of favour at County.
Inverness also sign young CB James Carragher on loan from Wigan, son of whom?? Easy guess.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 10 Jan 17:37
Quote:
par_33, Wed 10 Jan 17:35
Cracking signing for Raith, seen he was out of favour at County.
Inverness also sign young CB James Carragher on loan from Wigan, son of whom?? Easy guess.
Bob Carolgees?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 10 Jan 17:43
Quote:
par_33, Wed 10 Jan 17:35
Cracking signing for Raith, seen he was out of favour at County.
Inverness also sign young CB James Carragher on loan from Wigan, son of whom?? Easy guess.
Famous Irish telly producer Anne Carragher.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Wed 10 Jan 17:46
Cracking signing for the Rovers. Rovers looking good for the run in.
Its clear we can’t compete with the Rovers & Thistle in regards to signings.
Its going to be a rough 4-6 weeks that may put us in relegation place. The manager is not at fault should that happen.
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Wed 10 Jan 17:47
Pretty depressing stuff the now
Effe
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Wed 10 Jan 17:49
Wonder what’s going on with turner. Ross County have been pretty poor and he hasn’t been getting a look in. Hopefully a sign of what’s to come for his time at Raith!
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Wed 10 Jan 17:50
Good thing we don`t have any need for signings!
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Topic Originator: The moose
Date: Wed 10 Jan 17:52
Quote:
Bannockburn Par, Wed 10 Jan 17:46
Cracking signing for the Rovers. Rovers looking good for the run in.
Its clear we can’t compete with the Rovers & Thistle in regards to signings.
Its going to be a rough 4-6 weeks that may put us in relegation place. The manager is not at fault should that happen.
Who is at fault then?
BCM
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Wed 10 Jan 17:58
Turner is a great signing.
Starting to think they might win it at a canter!
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Wed 10 Jan 17:59
Quote:
AlterPar, Wed 10 Jan 17:49
Wonder what’s going on with turner. Ross County have been pretty poor and he hasn’t been getting a look in. Hopefully a sign of what’s to come for his time at Raith!
I never heard it explained why he left us.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Wed 10 Jan 18:02
McPake has to start taking the blame. 4 home games in the next 5. If results don’t go our way we could end up near the bottom of the table. Questions will have to be asked about him as a manager.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: Swifty
Date: Wed 10 Jan 18:03
Having read a Courier article about our long term injury list I’m not in a good place. This is compounded by it looking like we can’t compete with the Rovers or ICT when it comes to signing players. I’ve no doubt the Board/Management Team are trying very best. But with two crucial home games coming up it is a must that we get a few players in. We’re obviously struggling for transfer funds. Rather controversially can I ask how many Championship clubs have a CEO in post?
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Wed 10 Jan 18:03
Definitely mate. A league title and sitting just outside the playoffs halfway through the season with a squad decimated with injuries. He needs to buck up his ideas right enough. Is John Hughes still without a club??
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 10 Jan 18:03
Everyone agrees we need some fresh faces in to get a competitive team on the park, given our injury situation, but what we don`t need is players of dubious character who may disrupt the harmony in the squad.
Kyle Turner and Dom Thomas are undoubtedly talented players but they have history.....
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 10 Jan 18:04
Do people not understand the business side to running a football club?
We already have at least 20 players on the books currently…..the unfortunate part to that is that 7/8 key players are injured. You still need to pay for them and their wages and any recovery methods (scans/extra physio) required.
Yeah it would be great to go out and buy 5/6 players, but thats another 5/6 players onto the overall wage bill, that then cant be shifted till June.
We have also invested heavily in players in summer and in new training facilities for the club and academy for the future.
People need to grasp we arent a club with pots of gold like is appearing at the Rovers/Utd/Partick atm.
We will sign 2/3 players on short term/loan deals - which is hard to attract a top talent on, but thats the way it is.
This squad, if we ever get to fully fit, is more than capable of a top half finish.
Post Edited (Wed 10 Jan 18:05)
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Wed 10 Jan 18:27
Quote:
Jeffery, Wed 10 Jan 16:49
Quote:
The Boss, Wed 10 Jan 15:05
Kyle Turner and Ashcroft signing for the Rovers this week.
Rovers owner must be absolutely loaded or he`s saddling the club with debt.
Gretna comes to mind
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Topic Originator: adampar1
Date: Wed 10 Jan 18:43
If we don’t sign a couple of defenders pronto then we’re undoubtedly in a tough relegation battle
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 10 Jan 18:46
Isn`t Andy Barrowman the CEO at the Rovers? John Potter`s also on the staff as Technical Director.
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Topic Originator: Muppet Par
Date: Wed 10 Jan 18:59
What an absolute shambles of a club, no ambition at all. Rotten to the core. 10 days into the window and not to have made a signing in our predicament is a disgrace.
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Wed 10 Jan 19:08
Muppet is accurate.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 10 Jan 19:11
I`ll take a ban but we have some absolute fannies that post on here
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Wed 10 Jan 19:20
^^Aye you being one of them
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 10 Jan 19:21
I agree we don`t have the money/don`t want to get ourselves into debt. However, the injuries FORCE the need for signings. We know all to well how competitive this league is and how you can very quickly find yourself in a relegation dogfight.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 10 Jan 19:36
Quote:
parsfan97, Wed 10 Jan 19:20
^^Aye you being one of them
He’s not really
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 10 Jan 19:53
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Wed 10 Jan 19:36
Quote:
parsfan97, Wed 10 Jan 19:20
^^Aye you being one of them
He’s not really
He can be at times
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 10 Jan 20:13
Quote:
red-star-par, Wed 10 Jan 19:53
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Wed 10 Jan 19:36
Quote:
parsfan97, Wed 10 Jan 19:20
^^Aye you being one of them
He’s not really
He can be at times
Oh I definitely can be. Not on this thread tho.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 10 Jan 20:14
Quote:
Muppet Par, Wed 10 Jan 18:59
What an absolute shambles of a club, no ambition at all. Rotten to the core. 10 days into the window and not to have made a signing in our predicament is a disgrace.
Seriou question, Muppet Par. Do you consider yourself to be a Pars fan?
Your post is more in keeping with a Rangers fan talking about Celtic or vice versa.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 10 Jan 20:18
Quote:
da_no_1, Wed 10 Jan 20:13
Quote:
red-star-par, Wed 10 Jan 19:53
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Wed 10 Jan 19:36
Quote:
parsfan97, Wed 10 Jan 19:20
^^Aye you being one of them
He’s not really
He can be at times
Oh I definitely can be. Not on this thread tho.
I`ll sick up for da no 1, too. Sure, he sometimes oversteps the mark, but he`s not afraid to call out posters who talk absolute mince. This forum would be a poorer place without fans like him.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Wed 10 Jan 20:23
Quite an odd signing in a way for Raith as they are well stocked in midfield with Easton, Stanton, Byrne, Brown, Matthews all able to play there. Also a bit disappointing that he didn`t come back here if it was known he was available - like Kerr McInroy I think he`d have added a bit of quality in the middle of the park and was a known quantity obviously too. Dundee Utd better watch out as given their financial position as released today they really need to get back up at the first time of asking.
Being slightly facetious too - we`re often told that quality players don`t become avaliable on loan until the end of the window but there have already been a few decent players moving on loan across the UK. I hope we don`t continue to use that as an excuse if we aren`t bringing guys in sooner rather than later.
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Topic Originator: Garvockpar14
Date: Wed 10 Jan 20:25
Going into this season with only 4 recognised centre backs (maybe even three given the management clearly want to play Otoo in midfield) was incredibly poor planning. The pitfalls of this were predicted before the season had begun. There were warning signs towards the end of last season when Breen started to become injury prone and Hamilton had to play at CB when Bene was suspended. Whether it be the manager or the boards decision, it was wrong and should have been addressed at the earliest opportunity.
There is no doubt, when all fit and available, we have a competive squad for this league who should be able to achieve a mid table finish and maybe even push for the playoffs. The current injury crisis, worse than anything most of us have seen before, has completely changed that. While teams around us are strengthening, we appear to be stagnant. It is not inspiring for supporters and the buzz surrounding the club for the last year has started to dissipate.
The current situation means the board must act. Any competent owners and management of DAFC, given our facilities, fanbase, history and position in the central belt should be able to attract players comparable to or better than most in this league. Living within our means should always be the aim but how easy is that to do if we are relegated to League One again? The manager is clearly frustrated. Time to support him and get some bodies in. Push the boat out and remedy this before it`s too late.
Post Edited (Wed 10 Jan 20:26)
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Wed 10 Jan 20:42
Quote:
GG Riva, Wed 10 Jan 20:18
Quote:
da_no_1, Wed 10 Jan 20:13
Quote:
red-star-par, Wed 10 Jan 19:53
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Wed 10 Jan 19:36
Quote:
parsfan97, Wed 10 Jan 19:20
^^Aye you being one of them
He’s not really
He can be at times
Oh I definitely can be. Not on this thread tho.
I`ll sick up for da no 1, too. Sure, he sometimes oversteps the mark, but he`s not afraid to call out posters who talk absolute mince. This forum would be a poorer place without fans like him.
He`s a handsome chap, alright in my book.
Ep.17 of East End Tales is out now with Andrius Skerla
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/15082607
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Wed 10 Jan 20:56
EastEndTales wrote:
> Quote:
GG Riva, Wed 10 Jan 20:18
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> Quote:
da_no_1, Wed 10 Jan 20:13
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> Quote:
red-star-par, Wed 10 Jan 19:53
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> Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Wed 10 Jan 19:36
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> Quote:
parsfan97, Wed 10 Jan 19:20
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> ^^Aye you being one of them
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> He’s not really
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> He can be at times
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> Oh I definitely can be. Not on this thread tho.
>
> I`ll sick up for da no 1, too. Sure, he sometimes oversteps the
> mark, but he`s not afraid to call out posters who talk absolute
> mince. This forum would be a poorer place without fans like
> him.
>
> He`s a handsome chap, alright in my book.
>
>
Don`t know about that 🤔
I`ve had 1 or 2 heated debates with him, he`s the king of sarcasm sure enough, but does talk sense now and again 😄
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Wed 10 Jan 22:04
What Muppet Par is saying is correct. It’s absolutely ridiculous we have not made signings yet this window, absolutely inept.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 10 Jan 22:07
Quote:
hudza, Wed 10 Jan 22:04
What Muppet Par is saying is correct. It’s absolutely ridiculous we have not made signings yet this window, absolutely inept.
And who should we have signed that would come on a 6 month deal? Come on, name names…..
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Wed 10 Jan 22:21
There has been loads of teams signing players on loan so if you’re suggesting nobody was/is available then that’s daft.
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Topic Originator: Muppet Par
Date: Wed 10 Jan 22:24
Dave, that’s the job of the recruitment at the club to bring in players and name names. You’re basically saying there’s absolutely no players available, that’s ridiculous.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 10 Jan 22:33
Then name them 🤷🏻♂️ 6 month deals, who would we target and would they sign on a short term deal?
Turner would not come to us, the lad that went to Partick was offered a deal and chose them (reportedly) and Jamie Carraghers son, who nobody has heard of until he joined ICT….I mean, come on 😂
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 10 Jan 22:34
Quote:
Muppet Par, Wed 10 Jan 22:24
Dave, that’s the job of the recruitment at the club to bring in players and name names. You’re basically saying there’s absolutely no players available, that’s ridiculous.
Whats ridiculous is claiming theres plenty out there but then passing it off to someone else to name them……the irony in that is outstanding
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Wed 10 Jan 23:52
Got to agree it’s an embarrassment from how it ended on Friday to now and not even a hint of a signing. Plus apart from McCann and hopefully Otoo no one is coming back anytime soon
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Thu 11 Jan 05:53
If Carlsberg did injury crises……
Is Thursday not normally when we make signing announcements.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 11 Jan 07:46
The allegation that McPake refuses to consider signing any player he doesn`t know well is totally baseless, nevertheless some posters keep repeating it. No doubt most managers prefer to bring in good players they have worked with before and who are of sound character, but it`s quite a quantum leap to deduce from this that a manager will refuse to sign any player he doesn`t know or hasn`t worked with.
We don`t need to look too far back to see what can happen when you have a few "bad eggs" in the squad. Grant and Hughes were very poor managers for us, but they weren`t helped by the poor attitudes and poisonous behaviour of some players at the time.
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Thu 11 Jan 07:47)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 11 Jan 08:17
Sam Wardrop (one of those defenders we desperately need...) was in with Raith yesterday. That`s the guy who some reckon isn`t even worth looking at because he "quit" football to pursue training and wants to come back.
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Topic Originator: Muppet Par
Date: Thu 11 Jan 08:31
Dave, again as I said not my job to name players. The scouting and recruitment should have names available to them to persue. Didn’t know it was the job of the fans to suggest names. If you don’t think the club are failing right now then you are deluded.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 11 Jan 08:52
Quote:
jake89, Thu 11 Jan 08:17
Sam Wardrop (one of those defenders we desperately need...) was in with Raith yesterday. That`s the guy who some reckon isn`t even worth looking at because he "quit" football to pursue training and wants to come back.
We are desperate I get that but there must be better options out there than a 26 year old guy who`s only amassed 49 appearances, 46 of them for Dumbarton
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 11 Jan 08:53
What is `the job of the fans`? To snipe from the sidelines?
Apart from Dundee Utd, Raith and Partick Thistle, who seem to have pots of money, there hasn`t been a lot of activity amongst Championship clubs yet. Getting suitable players isn`t as easy as some think.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 11 Jan 09:09
Quote:
Muppet Par, Thu 11 Jan 08:31
Dave, again as I said not my job to name players. The scouting and recruitment should have names available to them to persue. Didn’t know it was the job of the fans to suggest names. If you don’t think the club are failing right now then you are deluded.
So if you cant name any players, how on earth do you know who the club have and havent looked at, made contact with or even offered a deal for? 😂 the club could have made Sergio Ramos an offer for all you know, but you cant even name 1 target youd want to bring in…..
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 11 Jan 09:10
The Record are saying Dundee want to strengthen their defence before considering loan offers for Lee Ashcroft. They say Raith, Partick, ICT and the Pars are interested.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Thu 11 Jan 09:34
Quote:
jake89, Thu 11 Jan 08:17
Sam Wardrop (one of those defenders we desperately need...) was in with Raith yesterday. That`s the guy who some reckon isn`t even worth looking at because he "quit" football to pursue training and wants to come back.
Why are you misleading people here? He’s been in at a few clubs doing PR for the SPFL, Raith will have absolutely no interest in signing him. He did the exact same thing with Falkirk last week. It’s part of the SPFL’s campaign to promote lower league football, during the winter break. He’s there on behalf of the SPFL and not on trial or anything like that.
He retired 2 years ago, after a career plagued by injuries. After 2 years out the game, I can’t imagine someone that was already injury prone is the answer to our injury crisis. Particularly when they struggled at this level when they were fit.
He was also a RB, rather than a CB. With Comrie’s injury, we may need a RB now too though. But I just don’t think he’d be the answer to any of our problems.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Thu 11 Jan 10:22
Quote:
GG Riva, Thu 11 Jan 07:46
The allegation that McPake refuses to consider signing any player he doesn`t know well is totally baseless, nevertheless some posters keep repeating it. No doubt most managers prefer to bring in good players they have worked with before and who are of sound character, but it`s quite a quantum leap to deduce from this that a manager will refuse to sign any player he doesn`t know or hasn`t worked with.
We don`t need to look too far back to see what can happen when you have a few "bad eggs" in the squad. Grant and Hughes were very poor managers for us, but they weren`t helped by the poor attitudes and poisonous behaviour of some players at the time.
Good post
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Thu 11 Jan 10:23
Quote:
GG Riva, Thu 11 Jan 07:46
The allegation that McPake refuses to consider signing any player he doesn`t know well is totally baseless, nevertheless some posters keep repeating it. No doubt most managers prefer to bring in good players they have worked with before and who are of sound character, but it`s quite a quantum leap to deduce from this that a manager will refuse to sign any player he doesn`t know or hasn`t worked with.
We don`t need to look too far back to see what can happen when you have a few "bad eggs" in the squad. Grant and Hughes were very poor managers for us, but they weren`t helped by the poor attitudes and poisonous behaviour of some players at the time.
I’d be surprised if anyone thinks he completely refuses to sign players he doesn’t know but I personally I think McPake carries out a lot of due diligence on players before they arrive on a permanent transfer and there’s a good chance that’s resulted in us losing out on a few players due to the time taken.
I completely understand the worry of bringing someone in who can disrupt the squad but at the moment we are desperate for players and the lack of signings could result in us being dragged into a relegation scrap.
I don’t believe that we are skint and cannot afford to strengthen as last season McPake/the board claimed we were over ambitions with some of our targets and attempted to sign Jakubiak and Summers last season in addition to what we had. I cannot imagine we are any worse off now.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Thu 11 Jan 10:24
Quote:
GG Riva, Thu 11 Jan 07:46
The allegation that McPake refuses to consider signing any player he doesn`t know well is totally baseless, nevertheless some posters keep repeating it. No doubt most managers prefer to bring in good players they have worked with before and who are of sound character, but it`s quite a quantum leap to deduce from this that a manager will refuse to sign any player he doesn`t know or hasn`t worked with.
We don`t need to look too far back to see what can happen when you have a few "bad eggs" in the squad. Grant and Hughes were very poor managers for us, but they weren`t helped by the poor attitudes and poisonous behaviour of some players at the time.
Good post
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Thu 11 Jan 10:30
Can’t disagree with GG’s post. I’d actually say that, in our current predicament, it would be beneficial to get a player the manager knows. We need someone who can come in and instantly help the team. If the manager knows exactly what he’s getting, it’s much easier to plan for that player being in the team, whereas if he doesn’t know much about the player coming in, it can take time to see where they best fit in - or whether they actually do.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 11 Jan 11:30
I think he has taken this approach to get players in he trusts after Dundee. Ultimately managers jobs depend on the guys they bring in all it needs is one bad egg.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Thu 11 Jan 13:38
Re mcpake not signing experienced players he or his assistant has managed or played with before.
I count 4 experienced pro’s mcpake has brought to the club since he took over
McGowan - Dundee
Jak - Dundee
O’hallaran - st Johnstone
Bene - raith (but both played together at Dundee in 2014 and 2015)
So far rumours for this window are Ashcroft and Stevie may.
What am I missing?
Post Edited (Thu 11 Jan 13:46)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 11 Jan 13:53
What are you missing? Well., he signed Hammy from Hearts. He may not be too experienced but he made him vice-captain. I don`t think he`d worked with him before.
You might also have missed the posts today by GG Riva, par-91 and cammypar1995 giving possible explanations for his approach to signings.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 11 Jan 14:00
According to COWS we ARE recruiting!
`Join the team at KDM Group East End Park as we look to add qualified bar staff for match days & functions as we head into 2024.
You must be over 18 years of age and should be a self-motivated team player able to work unsupervised in a busy environment as well as confident, friendly and reliable.`
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 11 Jan 14:03
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 11 Jan 14:00
According to COWS we ARE recruiting!
`Join the team at KDM Group East End Park as we look to add qualified bar staff for match days & functions as we head into 2024.
You must be over 18 years of age and should be a self-motivated team player able to work unsupervised in a busy environment as well as confident, friendly and reliable.`
Aye but in the small print it says "must have experience working in Perth/Dundee".....
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 11 Jan 14:07
Nice one, da no 1!
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 11 Jan 15:07
Quote:
Berkey, Thu 11 Jan 13:38
Re mcpake not signing experienced players he or his assistant has managed or played with before.
I count 4 experienced pro’s mcpake has brought to the club since he took over
McGowan - Dundee
Jak - Dundee
O’hallaran - st Johnstone
Bene - raith (but both played together at Dundee in 2014 and 2015)
So far rumours for this window are Ashcroft and Stevie may.
What am I missing?
Berkey, you`re one of the fans I was talking about in my post further up this thread. You keep repeating that he won`t sign anyone unless they`ve previously played with Dundee or St Johnstone, insinuating that he won`t even consider anyone else, which is just arrant nonsense at best.....
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Thu 11 Jan 15:19
I wonder if Raith fans are upset, that they seem to sign a lot of players that Potter/Murray have worked with before?
Dabrowski - worked with Potter at Hibs
Millen - worked with Potter at Dunfermline
Byrne - worked with Potter at Dunfermline
Gullan - worked with Potter at Hibs
Callum Smith - worked with Potter at Dunfermline
Ashcroft (reportedly) - worked with Potter at Dunfermline
Turner - worked with Murray at Airdrie
McGill - worked with Murray at Airdrie
Easton - worked with Murray at Airdrie
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 11 Jan 15:40
I’d like my wee glass o Coca Cola served to me by the delectable and handsome da no 1, thanks!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Thu 11 Jan 15:55
Quote:
buffy, Thu 11 Jan 15:40
I’d like my wee glass o Coca Cola served to me by the delectable and handsome da no 1, thanks!
You flirt 🤣
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Thu 11 Jan 15:59
We obviously don`t have money to throw around, other clubs that have not been in admin seem to be able to be able to dish out more money. We are lucky that some of our youngsters can play at a reasonable level and that helps. As I wrote on another post hopefully we can get into at least 8th place. Then with a full squad we can look forward to next season.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Thu 11 Jan 16:38
So I’m talking about experienced players mcpake has brought in and wee eck throws back yeah but he signed a 20 year old from hearts…..
Some arguement there bud.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 11 Jan 16:49
He made him vice-captain so I don`t think he regarded him as an inexperienced youth player as you seem to be suggesting he was. Personally, I don`t mind where players are signed from but I can understand McPake`s approach as explained in the three posts I referred you to. I don`t suppose you read them because you prefer to live in your own little bubble and trot out your prejudices time after time.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 11 Jan 17:37
Quote:
Berkey, Thu 11 Jan 16:38
So I’m talking about experienced players mcpake has brought in and wee eck throws back yeah but he signed a 20 year old from hearts…..
Some arguement there bud.
Do you actually like any Pars players?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Thu 11 Jan 18:00
Fingers crossed! Sounds like he was a target for the summer so a possible loan with a view to a permanent deal in the summer?
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 11 Jan 18:00
not really it then just moves to he isnt good enough, its another kid, hes from Dundee/StJohnstone, why wasnt he signed as soon as the window opened, why is it only one signing, its Chalmers fault etc etc.....
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Thu 11 Jan 18:13
As someone mentioned earlier, that is Robbie Mahon off to Dundalk.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Thu 11 Jan 18:17
Quote:
GJS93, Thu 11 Jan 18:00
not really it then just moves to he isnt good enough, its another kid, hes from Dundee/StJohnstone, why wasnt he signed as soon as the window opened, why is it only one signing, its Chalmers fault etc etc.....
Maybe he wasn`t avaliable until now !
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 11 Jan 18:39
Who would have believed it?
The phone's been ringing! Thomas Meggle`s over from Germany! The board have been supportive! David Cook`s been working all hours!
They must have read the forum and decided to get the finger out!
Post Edited (Thu 11 Jan 18:52)
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 11 Jan 19:07
Quote:
par-91, Thu 11 Jan 09:34
Quote:
jake89, Thu 11 Jan 08:17
Sam Wardrop (one of those defenders we desperately need...) was in with Raith yesterday. That`s the guy who some reckon isn`t even worth looking at because he "quit" football to pursue training and wants to come back.
Why are you misleading people here? He’s been in at a few clubs doing PR for the SPFL, Raith will have absolutely no interest in signing him. He did the exact same thing with Falkirk last week. It’s part of the SPFL’s campaign to promote lower league football, during the winter break. He’s there on behalf of the SPFL and not on trial or anything like that.
He retired 2 years ago, after a career plagued by injuries. After 2 years out the game, I can’t imagine someone that was already injury prone is the answer to our injury crisis. Particularly when they struggled at this level when they were fit.
He was also a RB, rather than a CB. With Comrie’s injury, we may need a RB now too though. But I just don’t think he’d be the answer to any of our problems.
Sorry to correct you but he is doing a whole “get back into pro football within a year” thing on Tik Tok and is on day 40 out of 365
Not saying he is an answer, not saying he is not doing PR but he is definitely trying to get a club.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Thu 11 Jan 19:44
Great news that it looks like we`re getting a new CB in before Saturday, will hopefully give everyone a lift at the club and give us something resembling a defensive unit come the game.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 11 Jan 19:46
Wait for it…….HOLDDDD, HOLDDDDDDDDDDD…….
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 11 Jan 20:10
His loan spell at Dundee was prematurely ended by......a hamstring injury!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 11 Jan 20:10
😆😆😆
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Thu 11 Jan 20:32
Quote:
P, Thu 11 Jan 19:07
Sorry to correct you but he is doing a whole “get back into pro football within a year” thing on Tik Tok and is on day 40 out of 365
Not saying he is an answer, not saying he is not doing PR but he is definitely trying to get a club.
That’s not why he’s been in at Raith, Falkirk and Dumbarton though. He’s been doing that on behalf of the SPFL’s ‘No Rest For the Wicked’ campaign, which is highlighting lower league football during the winter break. He may well be trying to return to pro, but that’s unrelated to him training with Raith, which the SPFL paid him to do.
Also, if he’s 40 days through a 365 day path to getting back to pro, surely we should be waiting another year, rather than looking at him now?
https://spfl.co.uk/news/spfl-partners-with-popular-content-creators-to-l
Post Edited (Thu 11 Jan 20:45)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Thu 11 Jan 21:13
If you’re expecting someone to say ‘I told you so’ there must be a reason!
Suppose it’s better than saying he made him vice captain like somehow that instantly makes any player become experienced.
Seems an interesting signing…not played very much first Team football but he’ll do for now and a good chance to get a look at him ahead of maybe trying to get him in the summer if released.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 11 Jan 22:01
You`re both correct on Wardrop.
What he`s done is given himself a year to get back into football. He`s on day 40-something. He`s been working with the SPFL as part of this to train with a few teams.
As mentioned before, my suggestion is to have a look at him rather than sign him. Maybe we already have?
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Thu 11 Jan 22:12
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 11 Jan 18:39
Who would have believed it?
The phone`s been ringing! Thomas Meggle`s over from Germany! The board have been supportive! David Cook`s been working all hours!
They must have read the forum and decided to get the finger out!
Or maybe they know what they are doing wee eck!
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 11 Jan 22:25
It`s good they have got another body in, hopefully this one can stay injury free. It`s a good chance for him to get some senior games under his belt. I`ve never been that impressed with the guys we have had from EPL U23 football, a lot of them just seem to be there to make up the numbers.
Looks like he has made 3 senior appearances, 2 for Dundee under McPake in the Championship, and, rather bizarrely, 1 vs Red Bull Leipzig in the UEFA Champions League.
Article on him from Feb 2022 states-
"Malachi Fagan-Walcott could be the one to save Spurs millions of pounds as just like his fellow U23 gem, he’s a versatile defender capable of playing anywhere along the backline.
Can Fagan-Walcott break into Spurs' first team?
Given Antonio Conte’s desire to play three-at-the-back in north London, there are more places up for grabs because of that extra central defender, so it seems plausible that someone like Fagan-Walcott will be in line for an opportunity sooner or later.
The 19-year-old has already caught the eye of the Italian head coach, having been called up to first-team training in recent months.
Fagan-Walcott has had experience away from Hotspur Way, featuring for SPFL outfit Dundee FC last season, though it was short-lived due to injury.
The Athletic once described him as an imposing centre-back at 6 foot 2 inches, a threat from set-pieces and popular with ex-manager Jose Mourinho, whilst Scottish publication the Daily Record dubbed him a “rising star” on social media.
Under the Portuguese, the academy prospect earned his professional debut, coming on in the final few minutes of Spurs’ last appearance in the Champions League – a heavy 3-0 defeat to RB Leipzig back in March 2020.
Not only is he blessed with those ‘imposing’ attributes but he also has rapid pace and acceleration, being a 200m district sprint champion and that only bolsters his credentials and might point to why Conte has already taken a look at him.
Whilst it’s unlikely we see him this campaign, Fagan-Walcott is certainly one to watch for the future and he will help save chairman Daniel Levy millions in future transfer windows. "
Post Edited (Thu 11 Jan 22:39)
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Thu 11 Jan 22:38
Quote:
Indiapar, Thu 11 Jan 22:12
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 11 Jan 18:39
Who would have believed it?
The phone`s been ringing! Thomas Meggle`s over from Germany! The board have been supportive! David Cook`s been working all hours!
They must have read the forum and decided to get the finger out!
Or maybe they know what they are doing wee eck!
Pretty sure he was being sarcastic India.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Thu 11 Jan 22:43
Quote:
PARrot, Thu 11 Jan 22:38
Quote:
Indiapar, Thu 11 Jan 22:12
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 11 Jan 18:39
Who would have believed it?
The phone`s been ringing! Thomas Meggle`s over from Germany! The board have been supportive! David Cook`s been working all hours!
They must have read the forum and decided to get the finger out!
Or maybe they know what they are doing wee eck!
Pretty sure he was being sarcastic India.
Yes I thought that PARot. I was being a bit tongue in cheek myself. Two signings looks promising.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Thu 11 Jan 23:49
For a long time I trust our management
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Fri 12 Jan 11:47
1st signing of the window in the door. Nice one. Airdrie have lost a player back to hibs for our game and they seem pretty disappointed about it. Happy Friday!
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Fri 12 Jan 11:47
Welcome aboard Malachi, squad number 64!
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Fri 12 Jan 11:52
Great to get him over the line, hopefully he can have a great season for the pars and stay injury free!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 12 Jan 12:23
Been playing regularly for Cardiff u-21 so should be fine fitness-wise (touch wood!!)
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 12 Jan 12:31
Brilliant
Typing his double barrelled name into the updates autocorrect to save me taking 20 mins on the day o the match,….
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Fri 12 Jan 13:27
Is it Malach-ee or Malach-aye
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 12 Jan 14:16
Some fancy motors sitting outside EEP including a strange coloured Tesla, maybe more to come?🤔
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 12 Jan 14:23
Quote:
buffy, Fri 12 Jan 12:31
Brilliant
Typing his double barrelled name into the updates autocorrect to save me taking 20 mins on the day o the match,….
Better be careful if you try and shorten his surname!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 12 Jan 14:50
According to the Courier Shaun Byrne`s loan from Dundee to the Rovers has been extended to the end of the season.
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz
Date: Fri 12 Jan 14:59
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 12 Jan 14:50
According to the Courier Shaun Byrne`s loan from Dundee to the Rovers has been extended to the end of the season.
good, save him going on loan to another rival and strengthening them
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Topic Originator: The moose
Date: Fri 12 Jan 15:25
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Fri 12 Jan 14:16
Some fancy motors sitting outside EEP including a strange coloured Tesla, maybe more to come?🤔
The Tesla is mine. 👍 😊
BCM
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 12 Jan 15:45
Quote:
The moose, Fri 12 Jan 15:25
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Fri 12 Jan 14:16
Some fancy motors sitting outside EEP including a strange coloured Tesla, maybe more to come?🤔
The Tesla is mine. 👍 😊
Can you shift it? Need to get my Bugatti parked.
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Topic Originator: The moose
Date: Fri 12 Jan 16:15
Quote:
jake89, Fri 12 Jan 15:45
Quote:
The moose, Fri 12 Jan 15:25
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Fri 12 Jan 14:16
Some fancy motors sitting outside EEP including a strange coloured Tesla, maybe more to come?🤔
The Tesla is mine. 👍 😊
Can you shift it? Need to get my Bugatti parked.
Genuinely, it`s mine. 👍
BCM
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Fri 12 Jan 22:39
Still need a few more in but must say, it`s great to see someone new in a pars strip
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Fri 12 Jan 22:55
Loved his last sentence " play for the badge"
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 12 Jan 23:31
Quote:
Rigger Al, Fri 12 Jan 22:55
Loved his last sentence " play for the badge"
There is a weird thing he says in that interview, he`s talking about how he`s composed on the ball then it`s a bit like he`s trying to think of the name of the person and he says "the Chairman.... He tries to push the players on the ball".
I`m wondering what he`s meaning there, I`m presuming David Cook doesn`t have much influence over how the team play, but is he maybe meaning Meggle wants that style of play?
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Sat 13 Jan 10:10
Sean Welsh signs for Queens Park.
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Wed 17 Jan 08:22
Hamilton trying to sign Morrison, Miller and Agyeman from Falkirk in this window. Madness! Doubt it will happen but would be very funny if it did.
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Topic Originator: Hay Fever
Date: Wed 17 Jan 15:24
Hamilton have got Jake Hastie though, who I thought would have been a great target for us. Alas no
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Wed 17 Jan 17:22
Have to say am disappointed we haven’t added another player this week, still need another 1-2 before the window closes.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Wed 17 Jan 18:27
Sharp is away back to Dundee according to the Press, i wouldnt be surprised if another keeper comes in as back up to Mehmet maybe even with a view to staying next season.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Wed 17 Jan 21:10
Tiwi Daramola leaves Kelty to join East Kilbride.
I imagine he will go back to scoring 50 goals a season!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 18 Jan 16:07
Confirmation on COWS now that Sharp has returned to Dundee and Young has been recalled from E Stirlingshire.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Thu 18 Jan 21:11
Short on keepers ,would try for Craig Gordon at the hearts ,just a thought ,
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Fri 19 Jan 10:45
Courier reporting the Pars approached Ross County for Eamonn Brophy on loan twice and been knocked back both times. Would`ve certainly been an upgrade on what`s here just now.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Fri 19 Jan 11:39
Greg Stewart signs for Killie, looks a good signing.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Fri 19 Jan 11:47
"But manager James McPake is seeking to add at least one more defender and a striker during this month’s transfer window."
also in that Courier article.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 19 Jan 16:08
Quote:
king lad, Fri 19 Jan 10:45
Courier reporting the Pars approached Ross County for Eamonn Brophy on loan twice and been knocked back both times. Would`ve certainly been an upgrade on what`s here just now.
That would be some signing tbf! Cue him joining Rovers now though
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 19 Jan 16:09
Brad Mackay to Kelty.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 21 Jan 10:50
Cammy Kerr and Zak Rudden told to find new clubs
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Sun 21 Jan 11:00
I’ve got a feeling we may sign both!
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sun 21 Jan 11:21
I could definitely see us going in for Rudden and I think he`d make an impact. As for Kerr, think we already have plenty of options in his position.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 21 Jan 11:35
Kerr is an odd one. Dundee gave him a 3 year extension just last year!
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sun 21 Jan 12:21
Rudden is an obvious one especially when we are after a forward.
if another defender comes in it will have a knock on effect in terms of the other squad options/positions no matter who it is, its a tough one to fix.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 21 Jan 12:39
If these guys are being released they`ll be looking for long-term contracts probably, especially Kerr if he just signed a 3-year deal.
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Sun 21 Jan 12:45
I don’t know what Ruddens contract situation is but if it’s true that Kerr is only a short way into a 3 year contract then he doesn’t need to go anywhere unless they are paying him the remainder of his contract to leave.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sun 21 Jan 14:10
If its cost effective I think we will be making enquiries for both. If there is competition for them we probably won`t be competing.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 21 Jan 14:11
Would be happy to see Rudden sign. He ticks a lot of boxes. Big, strong, young, decent goals per game ratio, capped at every youth level and U-21 for Scotland.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 21 Jan 14:22
According to Wikipedia both are under contract until the end of next season. Kerr is 28 and Ridden will be 24 next month.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sun 21 Jan 15:45
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Sun 21 Jan 15:26
If we can’t get a player like Rudden over the line (unless a PL sign him) then it does highlight the issues that seem apparent with our club won’t make to sign players.
Signing a couple of experienced players from the PL would be a huge step in the right direction
We`ll be lucky to have an extra £1000 per week for wages. It`d be interesting to know what kind of deals players like these are on!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 21 Jan 16:21
Even if Premiership clubs aren`t interested in Kerr and Rudden now they would probably be advised to stay with Dundee and see what transpires in the Summer window. There`s no pressure on them to move while Dundee are paying their wages.
It`s interesting Dundee are prepared to let them go but not Ashcroft apparently.
Post Edited (Sun 21 Jan 16:33)
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 21 Jan 16:40
Quote:
weemike, Sun 21 Jan 15:45
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Sun 21 Jan 15:26
If we can’t get a player like Rudden over the line (unless a PL sign him) then it does highlight the issues that seem apparent with our club won’t make to sign players.
Signing a couple of experienced players from the PL would be a huge step in the right direction
We`ll be lucky to have an extra £1000 per week for wages. It`d be interesting to know what kind of deals players like these are on!
I`d imagine that we have seen how much clubs lose in the league below the money can be found. We aren`t in any financial shortcomings according to our CEO.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: the saline hill puma
Date: Sun 21 Jan 18:39
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 21 Jan 16:21
Even if Premiership clubs aren`t interested in Kerr and Rudden now they would probably be advised to stay with Dundee and see what transpires in the Summer window. There`s no pressure on them to move while Dundee are paying their wages.
It`s interesting Dundee are prepared to let them go but not Ashcroft apparently.
We are likely looking to loan them, are you saying they`d be advised to stay and not play any football at a team that`s told them they aren`t needed, rather than go out on loan and get games?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 21 Jan 19:31
I would imagine Dundee`s preference would be to get them off the payroll permanently and loaning them out would be a last resort. That could mean having to wait until the last day or so of the window and I imagine there would be more attractive options than us. I suppose it would depend how badly McPake wanted them, if at all.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sun 21 Jan 19:47
I’d imagine we will be in the hunt for at least Rudden as he’s a proven goal scorer and fits in with McPake’s signing policy - an experienced player who he has worked with before. Hopefully we’re successful but I wouldn’t be surprised if Livingston or St Johnstone were interested as well.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 21 Jan 19:59
Yes, think we will be well down the queue for both of them, I fancy ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Mon 22 Jan 01:10
Inverness Caley Thistle are the latest club to set their sights on Cliftonville striker Ben Wilson.
The Scottish Championship outfit have had issues scoring goals this season and feel 22-year-old Wilson could solve that problem.
Having joined the Reds on a one year deal last summer Wilson is the top scorer in Irish League football with 17 across all competitions in the current campaign and that form has led to a number of teams in England and Scotland monitoring his situation with Cliftonville aware of Thistle’s admiration for the forward.
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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Mon 22 Jan 08:52
Zak Rudden and Cammy Kerr both free to leave Dundee.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Mon 22 Jan 11:08
Falkirk Football Club is delighted to announce the loan signing of Dylan Tait from Hibernian FC on a deal until the end of the season.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Mon 22 Jan 13:29
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 21 Jan 16:21
Even if Premiership clubs aren`t interested in Kerr and Rudden now they would probably be advised to stay with Dundee and see what transpires in the Summer window. There`s no pressure on them to move while Dundee are paying their wages.
It`s interesting Dundee are prepared to let them go but not Ashcroft apparently.
They play in different positions to Ashcroft, so Dundee obviously feel like they have enough cover in those areas, but not at CB. Pretty sure the quotes were along the lines of Ashcroft not being available unless they sign another defender, so they obviously don’t have the cover to allow him to leave. Ashcroft played at the weekend, which seems to back that up too.
I think I’d be sacking any agent/questioning the motives of someone saying they should turn down the opportunity of playing first team football at another club for the remainder of the season, when they’re clearly not part of Dundee’s plans. Great chance to go out and prove you’re good enough to play for Dundee next season, or interest ‘bigger’ clubs ahead of the summer transfer window.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Mon 22 Jan 20:23
test post.
I was actually having difficulty with Bad Response as well today so was able to run tests on it
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