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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 17 Aug 00:32
Do you think there will be one, like a new manager bounce?
If they had gone in April, we might have had a spring board bounce.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 17 Aug 06:36
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PARrot, Sat 17 Aug 00:32
Do you think there will be one, like a new manager bounce?
If they had gone in April, we might have had a spring board bounce.
An interesting question Parrot, except that we have half an old Board rather than a new one, and we`re unlikely to have any new directors until a new buyer comes in.
It could be a good while before your hypothesis is tested. 🤔
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Sat 17 Aug 06:37)
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 17 Aug 09:26
We can have an East End Bounce though if the fans rally round forget the boardroom shenanigans and support the manager and the team through thick and thin and help us to at the very least stay in this league.
All the fans….myself included….who were ready to chuck in the towel need to be right behind the boys now. Solidarity ….
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sat 17 Aug 09:56
Absolutely this ^
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 17 Aug 10:00
Quote:
desparado, Sat 17 Aug 09:26
We can have an East End Bounce though if the fans rally round forget the boardroom shenanigans and support the manager and the team through thick and thin and help us to at the very least stay in this league.
All the fans….myself included….who were ready to chuck in the towel need to be right behind the boys now. Solidarity ….
I think this week has split the club, we have the on-field and off-field now more defined.
Fans are going to find it easier to get the behind the team in that knowledge.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 17 Aug 10:09
Quote:
Westies squint kicks, Sat 17 Aug 10:00
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desparado, Sat 17 Aug 09:26
We can have an East End Bounce though if the fans rally round forget the boardroom shenanigans and support the manager and the team through thick and thin and help us to at the very least stay in this league.
All the fans….myself included….who were ready to chuck in the towel need to be right behind the boys now. Solidarity ….
I think this week has split the club, we have the on-field and off-field now more defined.
Fans are going to find it easier to get the behind the team in that knowledge.
For a couple of games, yes. But if we are still struggling after 5 or six rounds in the league with near zero points and hardly any goals, I wouldn`t be so sure.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 17 Aug 10:12
The best new board bounce we can hope for is someone coming in and splashing the cash to sign some upgrades on the players we have. Really this isn’t going to happen until January transfer window at best, no way a sale will be concluded and serious cash released for players before this window shuts.
If we can avoid relegation and get wealthy, generous new ownership next season could be good, a lot of our current squad have deals expiring at the end of the season so a good opportunity to start fresh and build a new and improved squad.
Staying in the championship and long term viability of the club are paramount.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 17 Aug 10:25
There`s a headline in the Courier that we beat Livi in a friendly and Kane played 70 mins but I couldn`t get any details as it`s behind a paywall. I wonder if we had any trialists playing? Has anyone read it?
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Sat 17 Aug 10:30
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 17 Aug 10:25
There`s a headline in the Courier that we beat Livi in a friendly and Kane played 70 mins but I couldn`t get any details as it`s behind a paywall. I wonder if we had any trialists playing? Has anyone read it?
Yeah, there’s no detail in it other than McCann and Hosler scored.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 17 Aug 10:33
Cheers, KP.
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Topic Originator: JimDAFC
Date: Sat 17 Aug 10:33
I will still be getting behind the team but I am not letting James McPake of the hook with the abyssal way the team are set up and the way they play. Cmon James let this be a new start for you and the players and allow us to be a more attacking team and make east end park a more enjoyable place to be.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 17 Aug 10:49
Quote:
JimDAFC, Sat 17 Aug 10:33
I will still be getting behind the team but I am not letting James McPake of the hook with the abyssal way the team are set up and the way they play. Cmon James let this be a new start for you and the players and allow us to be a more attacking team and make east end park a more enjoyable place to be.
Totally agree, Mcpake is lucky he is still in a job. He needs results and fast. New owners may decide he is for the chop….
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Sat 17 Aug 11:40
We’ll soon see if McPakes tactics were dictated to him by Meggle….
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sat 17 Aug 11:48
be some laugh when new owners/investors come in and continue with what was trying to be done....
Post Edited (Sat 17 Aug 11:53)
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 17 Aug 11:48
Let’s wait out and see how this traumatic experience pans out.
When Dundee had their second administration they went on a club league record of unbeaten games and overcame the points deduction to stay comfortably in the Championship.
Dissimilar circumstances - but adversity can lead to a positive outcome.
Let’s hope.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 17 Aug 11:52
Quote:
Higgys Mohawk, Sat 17 Aug 11:40
We’ll soon see if McPakes tactics were dictated to him by Meggle….
I can`t belive any manager with even a modicum of dignity and pride would allow a director to dictate tactics and /or team selection.
How could he look at himself in the mirror? No way is McPake such a soft touch.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 17 Aug 12:11
I agree, GGR.
The main challenge for JMcP remains - to find a way of playing at home which is entertaining and wins games. The losses at home to Forfar and Cove had nothing to do with lack of player resources but were down to his management of the team. He`s going to have to prove himself all over again to new owners but it may be too late as quite often new owners have already made up their minds on that front.
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Topic Originator: JimDAFC
Date: Sat 17 Aug 12:34
Well said wee eck and I also think the players have lost faith with the system they are trying to play and maybe also in James
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 17 Aug 12:54
I think the style of football we play should come a distant 2nd to results in terms of priorities. Full time scores and league tables are the be all and end all.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 17 Aug 13:15
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Never10yairds, Sat 17 Aug 12:54
I think the style of football we play should come a distant 2nd to results in terms of priorities. Full time scores and league tables are the be all and end all.
Call me a romantic, but I can`t agree with you N10Y. Of course it`s very important to win as many games as you can over the course of a season, but most fans also want to be entertained. How many would keep going to see turgid football week after week, even if their team was winning more games than not?
No doubt there are others like you who don`t feel entertaining football is a priority when their club is involved, but in an ideal world you`d have both.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 17 Aug 13:16
Quote:
Higgys Mohawk, Sat 17 Aug 11:40
We’ll soon see if McPakes tactics were dictated to him by Meggle….
That was the most interesting rumour eh! I would never be against someone like Meggle having an input considering his football background but if dictating things from his living room in Germany, I just don’t see that working
COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 17 Aug 13:19
Quote:
GG Riva, Sat 17 Aug 13:15
Quote:
Never10yairds, Sat 17 Aug 12:54
I think the style of football we play should come a distant 2nd to results in terms of priorities. Full time scores and league tables are the be all and end all.
Call me a romantic, but I can`t agree with you N10Y. Of course it`s very important to win as many games as you can over the course of a season, but most fans also want to be entertained. How many would keep going to see turgid football week after week, even if their team was winning more games than not?
No doubt there are others like you who don`t feel entertaining football is a priority when their club is involved, but in an ideal world you`d have both.
Play attractive football and get battling relegation over grinding out 1-0, 2-1 wins every week and fighting for promotion? Honestly, I’d prefer the fighting for promotion but it’s all irrelevant when we’re struggling for results irrespective of the style of play.
COYP
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Sat 17 Aug 13:25
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 17 Aug 13:16
Quote:
Higgys Mohawk, Sat 17 Aug 11:40
We’ll soon see if McPakes tactics were dictated to him by Meggle….
That was the most interesting rumour eh! I would never be against someone like Meggle having an input considering his football background but if dictating things from his living room in Germany, I just don’t see that working
His football background? What exactly have you seen that shows his CV good enough? His knowledge of Scottish football and players at our level is absolutely zero
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Sat 17 Aug 13:27
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 17 Aug 13:16
Quote:
Higgys Mohawk, Sat 17 Aug 11:40
We’ll soon see if McPakes tactics were dictated to him by Meggle….
That was the most interesting rumour eh! I would never be against someone like Meggle having an input considering his football background but if dictating things from his living room in Germany, I just don’t see that working
I think Meggle was in charge of St Pauli for 3 months in 2014/15. They finished in 15th that season, one point away from being relegated to the 3rd division-their worst season in the last 10 years.The following season they were 4th and are now ultimately in the Bundesliga.
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Sat 17 Aug 13:45
Quote:
parathletic, Sat 17 Aug 13:27
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 17 Aug 13:16
Quote:
Higgys Mohawk, Sat 17 Aug 11:40
We’ll soon see if McPakes tactics were dictated to him by Meggle….
That was the most interesting rumour eh! I would never be against someone like Meggle having an input considering his football background but if dictating things from his living room in Germany, I just don’t see that working
I think Meggle was in charge of St Pauli for 3 months in 2014/15. They finished in 15th that season, one point away from being relegated to the 3rd division-their worst season in the last 10 years.The following season they were 4th and are now ultimately in the Bundesliga.
So why would he never be against it? Strange that people had him on a pedestal
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 17 Aug 14:28
Quote:
parathletic, Sat 17 Aug 13:27
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 17 Aug 13:16
Quote:
Higgys Mohawk, Sat 17 Aug 11:40
We’ll soon see if McPakes tactics were dictated to him by Meggle….
That was the most interesting rumour eh! I would never be against someone like Meggle having an input considering his football background but if dictating things from his living room in Germany, I just don’t see that working
I think Meggle was in charge of St Pauli for 3 months in 2014/15. They finished in 15th that season, one point away from being relegated to the 3rd division-their worst season in the last 10 years.The following season they were 4th and are now ultimately in the Bundesliga.
He had a career at a much higher level of football than anyone else associated with Dunfermline Athletic at the moment. Does that mean he knows best? No but it might mean he can bring a different perspective from an educated background.
Again tho, him dictating things from Germany would never work and I’m surprised JMcP would put up with it, if that’s the case.
COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 17 Aug 14:29
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Sat 17 Aug 13:45
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parathletic, Sat 17 Aug 13:27
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 17 Aug 13:16
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Higgys Mohawk, Sat 17 Aug 11:40
We’ll soon see if McPakes tactics were dictated to him by Meggle….
That was the most interesting rumour eh! I would never be against someone like Meggle having an input considering his football background but if dictating things from his living room in Germany, I just don’t see that working
I think Meggle was in charge of St Pauli for 3 months in 2014/15. They finished in 15th that season, one point away from being relegated to the 3rd division-their worst season in the last 10 years.The following season they were 4th and are now ultimately in the Bundesliga.
So why would he never be against it? Strange that people had him on a pedestal
Stupid comment.
COYP
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Sat 17 Aug 14:47
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 17 Aug 14:28
Quote:
parathletic, Sat 17 Aug 13:27
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 17 Aug 13:16
Quote:
Higgys Mohawk, Sat 17 Aug 11:40
We’ll soon see if McPakes tactics were dictated to him by Meggle….
That was the most interesting rumour eh! I would never be against someone like Meggle having an input considering his football background but if dictating things from his living room in Germany, I just don’t see that working
I think Meggle was in charge of St Pauli for 3 months in 2014/15. They finished in 15th that season, one point away from being relegated to the 3rd division-their worst season in the last 10 years.The following season they were 4th and are now ultimately in the Bundesliga.
He had a career at a much higher level of football than anyone else associated with Dunfermline Athletic at the moment. Does that mean he knows best? No but it might mean he can bring a different perspective from an educated background.
Again tho, him dictating things from Germany would never work and I’m surprised JMcP would put up with it, if that’s the case.
James McPake played in the English Championship-Meggle hasn`t played at a much higher level.
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Sat 17 Aug 14:55
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 17 Aug 14:28
Quote:
parathletic, Sat 17 Aug 13:27
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 17 Aug 13:16
Quote:
Higgys Mohawk, Sat 17 Aug 11:40
We’ll soon see if McPakes tactics were dictated to him by Meggle….
That was the most interesting rumour eh! I would never be against someone like Meggle having an input considering his football background but if dictating things from his living room in Germany, I just don’t see that working
I think Meggle was in charge of St Pauli for 3 months in 2014/15. They finished in 15th that season, one point away from being relegated to the 3rd division-their worst season in the last 10 years.The following season they were 4th and are now ultimately in the Bundesliga.
He had a career at a much higher level of football than anyone else associated with Dunfermline Athletic at the moment. Does that mean he knows best? No but it might mean he can bring a different perspective from an educated background.
Again tho, him dictating things from Germany would never work and I’m surprised JMcP would put up with it, if that’s the case.
He really didn’t have a high level career so that’s in accurate, was also here every month so not dictating things from Germany. Maybe have a small online read even and you’ll see his “career”, absolutely nothing to suggest he’s capable of success anywhere
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 17 Aug 15:05
Oaft! The nose bleedingly high level of fighting of relegation from the championship!
There’s no point in trying to play top trumps about McPakes career v Meggle’s career.
The fact is when Meggle was introduced as part of GMBH it was easy to think his involvement would be a positive one but obviously, it’s no worked.
COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 17 Aug 15:22
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Sat 17 Aug 14:55
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NMCmassive, Sat 17 Aug 14:28
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parathletic, Sat 17 Aug 13:27
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NMCmassive, Sat 17 Aug 13:16
Quote:
Higgys Mohawk, Sat 17 Aug 11:40
We’ll soon see if McPakes tactics were dictated to him by Meggle….
That was the most interesting rumour eh! I would never be against someone like Meggle having an input considering his football background but if dictating things from his living room in Germany, I just don’t see that working
I think Meggle was in charge of St Pauli for 3 months in 2014/15. They finished in 15th that season, one point away from being relegated to the 3rd division-their worst season in the last 10 years.The following season they were 4th and are now ultimately in the Bundesliga.
He had a career at a much higher level of football than anyone else associated with Dunfermline Athletic at the moment. Does that mean he knows best? No but it might mean he can bring a different perspective from an educated background.
Again tho, him dictating things from Germany would never work and I’m surprised JMcP would put up with it, if that’s the case.
He really didn’t have a high level career so that’s in accurate, was also here every month so not dictating things from Germany. Maybe have a small online read even and you’ll see his “career”, absolutely nothing to suggest he’s capable of success anywhere
See you’re taking “higher” and turning it into “high”. Which is weird way to go about it.
Maybe it’s no me that needs to look into his career. Maybe mid table finish in the Bundesliga isn’t winning something but it’s probably “higher” than getting relegated from the English Championship.
COYP
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Sat 17 Aug 16:49
Would I be correct in thinking that the manager`s job is safe while we are up for sale? Who knows how long it could take for someone else to come up with the cash,if ever.
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Topic Originator: JamesAndrew74
Date: Sat 17 Aug 16:59
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kozmasrightfoot, Sat 17 Aug 16:49
Would I be correct in thinking that the manager`s job is safe while we are up for sale? Who knows how long it could take for someone else to come up with the cash,if ever.
Not at all. He can be sacked anytime, only dependent whether they spend money doing so
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 17 Aug 21:05
Well it worked. For the first Saturday in a whole we did not lost today.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 17 Aug 22:50
Quote:
jake89, Sat 17 Aug 21:05
Well it worked. For the first Saturday in a whole we did not lost today.
Every cloud has a silver lining eh!
COYP
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 18 Aug 09:21
Quote:
GG Riva, Sat 17 Aug 13:15
Quote:
Never10yairds, Sat 17 Aug 12:54
I think the style of football we play should come a distant 2nd to results in terms of priorities. Full time scores and league tables are the be all and end all.
Call me a romantic, but I can`t agree with you N10Y. Of course it`s very important to win as many games as you can over the course of a season, but most fans also want to be entertained. How many would keep going to see turgid football week after week, even if their team was winning more games than not?
No doubt there are others like you who don`t feel entertaining football is a priority when their club is involved, but in an ideal world you`d have both.
I`m not sure we were that entertaining when we won league 1 we just won more games than anyone else. Quite a few games were won late on as well.
c'mon the pars
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