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 Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 12:14

possible formation?


Mehmet

Comrie Young Hamilton Otoo

Clay Chalmers

KRH Wighton Mebude

Kane



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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 12:17

Thought Mebude was a striker? If so where is KRH playing? šŸ¤”šŸ˜‚
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: AveragePar  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 12:21

Any word on McCann?
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Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 12:27

Mbude is a winger mainly


No bene, McCann or Tobi :(

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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 12:35

COYP!
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:15

Mebude got a sare one there.....and he's subbed. Smashing

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:17

Our luck with injuries continues.

Itā€™s been a poor start, otherwise. We are allowing their defence to build the play with little or no pressure




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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:17

Yes, that`s how is looked Raymie. Todd on for Dapo now. Same shape by the looks of things.

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:18

and another injury !

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:18

Managed 15 mins. Who whacked him?
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:18

Goal Kelty

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:19

Canā€™t say it was coming but thatā€™s what happens when you allow the opposition to take the initiative

Why donā€™t we get after teams from the kick off, at home ?




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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:20

Must win for Mcpakeā€¦
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:20

Booooooooo

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:20

1-0 Kelty

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 Re: Pars 0 v 1 Kelty
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:20

Decent hit for the initial shot and looked like Mehmet maybe tipped it onto the post? They had someone following in but we didn`t. Midfield posted missing for the first strike as well. Plus la change...

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:21

Belter of a save from range from Mehmet just couldnā€™t stop the follow up.

Didnā€™t think the Dapo tackle was that bad, heā€™ll be fine I reckon.
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:21

Sorry, but this team and management are f**King pathetic. Part time level at best. Useless
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: nick_dafc1  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:22

Quote:

Raymie the Legend, Sat 12 Oct 13:19

Canā€™t say it was coming but thatā€™s what happens when you allow the opposition to take the initiative

Why didnā€™t we get after teams from the kick off ?


Clueless management. If we actually had a go from kick off and pressured teams the fans would get behind it even if we`re losing.
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:24

Not at the game today suffering from a virus , was Dapo kicked off the park inside the first 15mins? ( going with what`s on BBC website )
Hope with Kelty scoring it`s not a case of here we go again !
Certainly not a good start for us , Knew it could be a tricky tie today but this for me was a must win game

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Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:25



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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:26

The sad thing is that I am not sure I care anymore. It has reached that point.

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:26

1-1 Kane

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:29

Missed the goal šŸ˜”




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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:33

The goal has sparked us into life.




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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:36

2-1 Todd

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Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:37

2-1 Pars Todd

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:37

Good move. Much better now




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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: hudza  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:37

Good to see Matty back on the scoresheet

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:38

Kane forced wide and looked like he was waiting to be flagged off (maybe he was just annoyed at the poor ball) and did well to clip it to the back post for Chalmers to cut it back to Todd who had a simple finish from 6 yards.

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:38

I`ll take it. Todd is back
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:38

I thought it was Wighton with the back post cross ?




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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:46

is it my old age and eye sight ,but where are the lines on the park :):)
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:47

Certainly needing re-done, Rigger




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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:54

Great cross from Matty Todd for Kanes equaliser. Sumilar to his goal.down at Ayr at the end of last season. Great finish.

Chalmers at the back post with the touch inside to Wighton for the 2nd goal.

Should be 3 or 4 tho. Kelty like farting about at the back which is always good for a laugh at this level.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:56

Quote:

da_no_1, Sat 12 Oct 13:54

Chalmers at the back post with the touch inside to Wighton.

Should be 3 or 4 tho. Kelty like wettingabout at the back which is always good for a laugh at this level.


It was a really nice touch by Chalmers as well, great assist.

Weā€™ve been missing those types of deliveries into the box from Todd which have been really good.

Still think KRH could be doing better.
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:57

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Andrew283, Sat 12 Oct 13:21

Sorry, but this team and management are f**King pathetic. Part time level at best. Useless


At least you`re not letting it get to you...

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:58

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OzPar, Sat 12 Oct 13:26

The sad thing is that I am not sure I care anymore. It has reached that point.


Yet you care enough to post that you don`t care. Cool.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 14:09

never give up on your team - or go and watch the old firm.

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 14:27

Kelty toiling now, they are missing a few of their loanees apparently but we are starting to look a lot better than they are without really cutting them open too much. Subs out warming up so hopefully come changes coming soon.

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: wulliepar57  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 14:33

Certainly hoping we can take advantage kelty_par also hoping we can get a third goal to take the stuffing out of them , and will be good for our Morale

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 14:39

Kelty_par. Do feel free to relax in a dark room. You may feel some stress regarding Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID). You may be excused for having divided sympathies. But we do need this win more than the opposition.

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 14:59

Fantastic! Last 7 games, (3 wins, 2 defeats, 2 draws)9 goals for, 5 against. We`re flying!!!!

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Lucho_8  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 14:59

WE ARE BACK BABY! What a team. What a performance.
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 15:00

That was eye bleedingly awful to watch .

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 15:00

No divided loyalty here, I want Kelty to do well but not against us.

Good to get the win in the end but that last 10 minutes was hard going. After being in control for so long we let them back into it and we were perhaps holding on a bit a few times near the end. Felt our subs weakened us a bit but conversely would have liked to have seen a couple more just to get the energy levels up again at the end.

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 15:03

Kelty did nothing 2nd half to be honest.

See no reason why Kane, KRH and Wighton played the whole game.

Worried about KRH. Poor show from him.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 15:05

The mighty Kelty Hearts, 5-1 conquerors of QoS last week were meant to destroy us today. It didn`t happen. Keep the faith, we might go on a decent run yet.

Only kidding kelty_par, I feel the same way about Cowdenbeath.



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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Geordiepar  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 15:11

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da_no_1, Sat 12 Oct 15:03

Kelty did nothing 2nd half to be honest.

See no reason why Kane, KRH and Wighton played the whole game.

Worried about KRH. Poor show from him.


Thought Kane was really good and worked incredibly hard. Wighton poor and KRH was abysmal and lazy and cannot for the life of me understand how he wasnā€™t hooked at some point.

As a team we were comfortable until the last 10 minutes, when we started to sit back and looked vulnerable.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 15:16

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Geordiepar, Sat 12 Oct 15:11

Quote:

da_no_1, Sat 12 Oct 15:03

Kelty did nothing 2nd half to be honest.

See no reason why Kane, KRH and Wighton played the whole game.

Worried about KRH. Poor show from him.


Thought Kane was really good and worked incredibly hard. Wighton poor and KRH was abysmal and lazy and cannot for the life of me understand how he wasnā€™t hooked at some point.

As a team we were comfortable until the last 10 minutes, when we started to sit back and looked vulnerable.


I didn`t mean Chris Kane was poor. Just think it was a bit risky with his injury record. Wighton was OK but KRH has lost it I`m afraid. Cooper could`ve easily took his place.

Struggling to see what Clay offers.

Good to see Matty back. His energy and driving runs will help us out massively over the next few weeks.

Mehmet. Well.....he made one great save but typically they had a guy ready to knock it in. Then late on he punches a ball up in the air with 2 hands rather than catch it. Unbelievable. Praying Tobi is back soon.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 15:28

That was awful , a chance to really go out and play and looked
Like a preseason game

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 15:29

Good to see we got a result. Would be nice to see us have some success in this competition. We really need to start improving in the league though. Next week is a must win.

KRH just hasnā€™t kicked on since League One. He used to run a defenders without fear and play some excellent crosses. Granted he had a few injuries last season but I really expected better from him this season. Hopefully he can find his form eventually.

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Buster_Brown  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 15:32

Couldnā€™t make the game due to my sonā€™s football not finishing in Glasgow until 1230.

Going by the comments above, it sounds like it was a tie that we got through rather than a match that restored some faith that we were on the right track.

Hope Dapo is nothing serious and we can kick on to beat Morton next weekend.
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Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 15:37

We basically controlled most of the game yet we don,t have the ability to kill teams off, agree with the above don,t know what KRH offers to the team these days his contribution was minimal and should have been replace with Cooper , still a win is a win COYP.

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: FRED1981  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 16:01

He put Kane in midfield second half Wighton up front terrible decision as for a clay he couldnā€™t pass water .Its a good job Hamilton was their man of the match not young

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: KirklistonPar  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 16:09

Was at the game and happy to leave the stadium with a victory but that had to be one of least entertaining 2nd 45 minutes Iā€™ve seen in a long time. Kelty were there for the pummelling and we looked happy with winning by one goal. Overall a win should help the confidence. Sadly weā€™re more like a 1st division team.

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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 16:25

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FRED1981, Sat 12 Oct 16:01

as for a clay he couldnā€™t pass water .


Iā€™ve seen nothing to suggest heā€™ll be a good addition so far
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: KirklistonPar  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 16:43

Least Clay was happy to get stuck in and I thought he made some good challenges.

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 17:03

Itā€™s a win, we scored 2 goals and a wee boost for those who scored in an otherwise average display where we settled for 2-1 at half time.

Flip side is it was against a part time league 1 team and again some of our regular championship starters failed to show anything. We have no options to drop KRH without playing someone out of position, even with the additions brought in, the squad is still lacking options going forward.

I donā€™t feel the same ā€œwe might have turned a cornerā€ that we thought after the rovers game and of course that was yet another false dawn.

Goes without saying, next game feels like the biggest game of the season so far.



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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: nick_dafc1  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 17:16

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RossF, Sat 12 Oct 15:29

Good to see we got a result. Would be nice to see us have some success in this competition. We really need to start improving in the league though. Next week is a must win.

KRH just hasnā€™t kicked on since League One. He used to run a defenders without fear and play some excellent crosses. Granted he had a few injuries last season but I really expected better from him this season. Hopefully he can find his form eventually.


He wasn`t even that good in League one.
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: evo!  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 17:17

Can`t work out if we did our homework well by pressing kelty high or if kelty were just naive playing g the way they did. When they got forward they weren`t by any means too bad but a more confident ruthless team would have got 4/5 today.

We deserved the win as kelty`s inability to play out from the back would see them lose against anyone. They got themselves into too much trouble and no team can really complain if they play that way and lose

We weren`t great but at least set up to exploit kelty`s style.



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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 20:10

We were drossā€¦..again. As Raymie said earlier why is it that every week with the occasional exception ( Rovers ) do we never come out of the traps on the front foot and get right into the opposition? We allow them, what ever level, to settle and even dictate the tempo of the game. Its mind boggling.

Every week at EEP we sit there and after twenty mins we are still waiting on the first attempt at goal and the atmosphere, if there was any, has been sucked into the ether.

It canā€™t all be down to the manager, the players need to stand up and take more responsibility too.

Side noteā€¦ā€¦ KRHā€¦ should not be near the first team until he gets his act together. Forget the ball rolls mate and get back to basics.

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 20:10

It a win. That`s the important thing and we scored a couple of goals which will boost the confidence.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 20:10

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nick_dafc1, Sat 12 Oct 17:16

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RossF, Sat 12 Oct 15:29

Good to see we got a result. Would be nice to see us have some success in this competition. We really need to start improving in the league though. Next week is a must win.

KRH just hasnā€™t kicked on since League One. He used to run a defenders without fear and play some excellent crosses. Granted he had a few injuries last season but I really expected better from him this season. Hopefully he can find his form eventually.


He wasn`t even that good in League one.


I`d agree with that, I didn`t think he was that great in League One. He did seem unusually popular among kids and that probably helped him land a long term deal, a cult hero among the sections of support that don`t really know much about football. They seen he had Manchester City and rangers on his CV and believed he was good.

He is going to need to knuckle down or his CV will read Manchester City, rangers, Dunfermline Athletic, Kelty Hearts, Cowdenbeath before he hits 25
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 20:24

It`s a bit of a stretch to suggest McPake gave KRH a deal because he was popular with the kids surely? Isn`t it more likely he has a granny in Dundee or Perth?

Incidentally, in the build-up to this match there were a lot of pessimistic forecasts but I don`t think anyone mentioned Kelty were part-time. It was only after we beat them that this was considered worthy of mention!

Quote - `Flip side is it was against a part time league 1 team and again some of our regular championship starters failed to show anything.`

No doubt the `painters and decorators` had to put a shift in this morning before turning up for an early kick-off at EEP.

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Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 20:40

Before the match or after the match. It doesn`t matter!

All that matters is that we got the victory against a part-time lower league team at home.

Hopefully, we can build on this and get another positive result next week.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 20:54

As Dave Mackay pointed out in his match preview, based on current league placings, they`re just two places behind us in the `pyramid`. They came into this game full of confidence and scoring first probably added to that confidence so I think we should take a positive from overhauling them. I actually think there has been steady improvement starting with the second half against QP.

It seems Mebude`s injury is a nasty cut that needed stitching but should not mean a long lay-off. The bonus from him going off was that Toddy got a chance to gain more match sharpness. I can see Mebude replacing KRH when he`s fit again with Todd on the left-hand side.

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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 21:09

If that is to be the case then hopefully someone is ready to replace him or talk some tactical discipline into him as yet again he wasn`t tracking runners to the back post in the latter part of the game. Cost us at Airdrie, didn`t today. Morton will be a step up as they seem to have found a bit of form lately and have a new on loan striker who seems to have settled in well.

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Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 22:38

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red-star-par, Sat 12 Oct 20:10

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nick_dafc1, Sat 12 Oct 17:16

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RossF, Sat 12 Oct 15:29

Good to see we got a result. Would be nice to see us have some success in this competition. We really need to start improving in the league though. Next week is a must win.

KRH just hasnā€™t kicked on since League One. He used to run a defenders without fear and play some excellent crosses. Granted he had a few injuries last season but I really expected better from him this season. Hopefully he can find his form eventually.


He wasn`t even that good in League one.


I`d agree with that, I didn`t think he was that great in League One. He did seem unusually popular among kids and that probably helped him land a long term deal, a cult hero among the sections of support that don`t really know much about football. They seen he had Manchester City and rangers on his CV and believed he was good.

He is going to need to knuckle down or his CV will read Manchester City, rangers, Dunfermline Athletic, Kelty Hearts, Cowdenbeath before he hits 25


That`s a wild take. Young fans loved him cos he had Man City on his CV?

Yeah, those pesky youngsters that don`t understand football but like to Google players histories and purely make judgements on that.

Give yer heid a wobble if that`s a genuine assessment.
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 22:47

KRH was pretty useful in Division 1. He was cutting inside from the right wing to very good effect. Even last season, he had a great game in the home televised game against Dundee Utd. But so far this season he`s been rather anonymous. Maybe he`s scared of getting injured again. When he was injured, the second time last season, I thought he was trying too hard and over eager but he`s a bit more timid now. At least he`s kept free from injury so far and could come onto a game.

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 23:12

The thing that set him apart from the likes of Kai Kennedy was that there was end product to his play. It`s harder at this level though.
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 23:17

He`s a young lad recovering from a tough time with injury.
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 08:13

I would agree rusty but you would still be expecting to see glimpses of quality and pace every now and again and so far this season there has been nothing.

With him and McCann on the wings you can see why we have been struggling for goals.

Mebude and Todd on either side would be interesting, assuming mebude has the required quality as Todd has decent delivery and more importantly he tends to look up and aim for someone.

The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: The Boss  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 08:43

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desparado, Sat 12 Oct 20:10

We were drossā€¦..again. As Raymie said earlier why is it that every week with the occasional exception ( Rovers ) do we never come out of the traps on the front foot and get right into the opposition? We allow them, what ever level, to settle and even dictate the tempo of the game. Its mind boggling.

Every week at EEP we sit there and after twenty mins we are still waiting on the first attempt at goal and the atmosphere, if there was any, has been sucked into the ether.

It canā€™t all be down to the manager, the players need to stand up and take more responsibility too.

Side noteā€¦ā€¦ KRHā€¦ should not be near the first team until he gets his act together. Forget the ball rolls mate and get back to basics.


Totally agree.

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 09:14

We weren`t `dross`. Within 17 minutes of them scoring we scored two well-worked goals. Thereafter we restricted them to one shot on target and created a few chances of our own.
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 10:06

"Dross" no. Frustrating - definitely.

A confident team on-form would`ve taken them apart. We missed 3 chances before half time to finish the game off with 45 minutes to spare which would`ve allowed us to introduce the subs. As usual we end up a bit twitchy at the end.

We`re a really frustrating team to watch just now.

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 10:36

I thought Chris Kane was excellent yesterday. It was a brilliant glancing header for the goal. He never gave the defenders a second and often put himself in harms way to win it back or stop them playing. He may not be the most prolific in front of goal but he offers so much to the team. He must`ve thought he`d won the lottery when Kelty weren`t playing it out far.
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 11:30

Chris Kane is absolutely good enough for championship level and would score a decent amount of goals with some decent service.

How many times have either ā€˜wingerā€™ slung in a ball of the quality Todd did for kanes goal yesterday? Therein lies the problem, we need better players on the wings.

Todd could do a job out there but then we need Todd to also play as the more attacking midfielder too as the others are all defensive.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 12:11

With his non-stop running and willingness to put his body in positions where it hurts Chris Kane has certainly cast doubts on any claims that he`s `injury prone`. If he is he can't be risk averse because his commitment to the cause suggests he has no concerns over his personal safety.

It was good to hear Dave Mackay in his post-match interview giving credit to Craig Wighton, a player whose skills are under-appreciated by many Pars` fans. I think some of the improvement in recent weeks has been attributable to his ability to link the midfield with the attack and act as a foil to Kane. Whilst still lacking sharpness in front of goal himself he has contributed to a few goals recently, being involved in the build-up to Cooper`s goal against QP, producing the delicate chip behind the defence at Airdrie which won the penalty and providing the cross to allow Chalmers to knock the ball back to Todd for the winning goal on Saturday.

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Topic Originator: neilholland999  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 13:59

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wee eck, Sun 13 Oct 12:11

With his non-stop running and willingness to put his body in positions where it hurts Chris Kane has certainly cast doubts on any claims that he`s `injury prone`. If he is he must also be risk averse because his commitment to the cause suggests he has no concerns over his personal safety.


Wee eck, presumably you mean Kane is not risk averse! šŸ™ƒ

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 14:19

Well spotted, neil! On reflection maybe it wasn`t the best analogy to use for a footballer. I`ve changed the original post so it makes more sense.
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 14:59

Frustration was the word that came to my mind as well.

Beforehand you might have taken any sort of win ā€“ a tricky fixture against a team that had had good results ā€“ just get yourself into the draw for the next round.

As it was, Kelty were much poorer than I expected ā€“ we had plenty of the ball, plenty space and plenty time. I imagine the players will have clocked this pretty quickly and will have thought Kelty were there for the taking.

It was another disappointing goal to lose ā€“ it seemed like an accumulation of small errors: KRH a bit on his heels, Clay losing the subsequent challenge, no pressure on the ball, the keeper not getting the ball away from the danger zone and the defence being slow to react. Credit to Johnston who anticipated the chance; something I donā€™t think our strike-force (largely) is good at.

However our heads didnā€™t go down and we hit back quickly with two ā€œnormalā€ goals. Someone pointed out recently that a lot of the goals we had scored this season (not many in total) had been worldies, deflections or from a dead ball so this was a pleasing development ā€“ a good cross and glancing header, and another deep cross and clever lay-off from Chalmers ā€“ but what was he doing virtually on the bye-line? Did he forget we were playing the wrong way?

At that point I thought we could and should win by 4 or 5 but then we spurned a couple of chances (how did Wighton miss?) and the second half was a bit of a non-event as we retreated into our shells. It had the feel of a pre-season game at the end ā€“ it looked like Todd was out on his feet and that we were trying to play KRH into some semblance of form; Iā€™m not sure why we didnā€™t give Sutherland or Cooper a run-out, to pose more of a threat and give them something to think about.

It seemed more like a traditional 4-4-2 this week (although I may have forgotten what that looks like). Wighton and Kane seemed to work better together (and appear confusingly similar from a distance); after last week when Todd started on the right and KRH on the left, their roles were reversed (at least after Dapo had to quit before we had the chance to have a good look at him). Again Todd offered more of a threat.

We were a bit weak defensively on the bench ā€“ I assume Ngwenya would have had to come on in the absence of Fisher, Bene and Fogarty, but he wasnā€™t needed.

So a little bit better ā€“ we havenā€™t turned the corner but we might be getting closer to it.

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 18:59

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Berkey, Sun 13 Oct 11:30

Chris Kane is absolutely good enough for championship level and would score a decent amount of goals with some decent service.

How many times have either ā€˜wingerā€™ slung in a ball of the quality Todd did for kanes goal yesterday? Therein lies the problem, we need better players on the wings.

Todd could do a job out there but then we need Todd to also play as the more attacking midfielder too as the others are all defensive.


I don`t often agree with you Berkey but you are on the money with those points.
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 19:08

Kane is an ā€œold fashionedā€ centre forward who would appreciate being able to attack a cross pulled back from the bye line. Sadly, there is no room for such wingers these days




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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 21:35

A couple of things to add to McCaig`s Tower`s post...

Kelty maybe were poorer than expected because they were missing I think 7 players who were either cup tied, on loan and not allowed to play or injured. Even with that handicap I thought they moved the ball quite well though.

While it was more like a 4-4-2 I think Wighton was slightly off Kane so it could be described as more of a 4-4-1-1 or 4-2-3-1 with Todd in particular not exactly wedded to the touchline. Perhaps if Dapo had stayed on then the wide men on each side would have stayed quite far out.

You described the goals as "normal" as they came from open play but they were both in effect counter attacking goals. It was interesting that when we did have the ball in their half for long spells we couldn`t really open them up, which was a similar story to our League One winning team.

Totally agree that Cooper and Sutherland should have been on. I was surprised Todd and Kane stayed on til the end as both were tiring and Kane was a doubt before the game.after going off last week.

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Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 22:07

I too would have liked to see Cooper and Sutherland on. I think Cooper particularly may have created something. It seemed an obvious game to give them competitive action too.

Maybe another example of James McPake not wanting to change things positively to create more, rather keep things tight for fear of losing.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 22:24

He brought Wotherspoon on for Clay which was hardly a defensive move.
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: CrossPar  
Date:   Mon 14 Oct 18:08

Not sure how do create a link on here but the report below of Saturday`s match is a good read.

https://nutmegfootball.substack.com/p/the-slow-match-report-dunfermline
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Tue 15 Oct 10:23

I thought KRH was excellent in League One and created a number of goals for us. His burst of pace was difficult for defenders to handle and he had skill to beat a man too. At that time, he was more important than Otoo, who is now miles ahead of KRH in terms of importance. Unfortunately, he just hasnā€™t kicked on. The only game that springs to mind where he made a difference was Dundee Utd at home.

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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Wed 16 Oct 04:50

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CrossPar, Mon 14 Oct 18:08

Here ye go, Crosspar. It is a good article.


Not sure how do create a link on here but the report below of Saturday`s match is a good read.

https://nutmegfootball.substack.com/p/the-slow-match-report-dunfermline




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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Wed 16 Oct 07:08

Enjoyed that read. Heā€™s a talented writer




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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Wed 16 Oct 13:05

Quarter final draws the pars at home against alloa
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 Re: Pars v Kelty
Topic Originator: DJAS  
Date:   Wed 16 Oct 13:09

Good draw. Livvy or Morton in the semis if we win.





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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Wed 16 Oct 17:26

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DJAS, Wed 16 Oct 13:09

Good draw. Livvy or Morton in the semis if we win.


And possibly a final v QP. All very doable

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