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Topic Originator: P
Date: Wed 16 Oct 19:54
I’m sure the press and fans will be very patient with him and it most definitely won’t end in tears and acrimony
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Wed 16 Oct 20:35
He has the best players and like to play good attacking football… unfortunately I think he will win England the euros/World Cup if his contract is extended… then I’m sure he won’t be recognised as German😅 Quality manager with quality players!
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 16 Oct 21:40
Daily Fail taking the new as well as expected. I`d be pleased but I suspect they`ve finally appointed a manger who can actually win them something...
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 16 Oct 22:11
Can Tuchel become the first foreign coach to ever win a World Cup?
"England have arguably one of the greatest squads they ever had and the great momentum of two Euros finals," said European football journalist Julien Laurens.
"What England needed now to bring that momentum through is having a winner on the bench."
Time will tell
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 16 Oct 22:18
It’s a very good appointment. I think he will do very well
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 16 Oct 22:45
Capello was a winner. Sven was a winner.
I think he`ll fail like all the others.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 17 Oct 10:06
Bellingham and Palmer(who didn`t get a start for England at the Euros) aside, I don`t think their players are as good as they think.
If you were to pick a European X1 how many of their players would get in? Looking around the top nations then they have players who are equally good if not better imo? Of course, if you are comparing them to Scotland, then it`s a different matter.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 17 Oct 10:23
We were inundated with "experts" telling us they would stroll through the last Euros before finally bringing it "home"
The reality was they limped through to the final with some abysmal displays and a large slice of luck where Spain tickled them into submission.
They have some good players but the majority of them are massively overrated
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Thu 17 Oct 10:26
If I were picking a European XI - there`s a few England players I`d have in my first XI.
Kane for sure - I think he brings more to a team than his rival goal scorers (Lewandowski and Haaland).
I`d have Saka on the right wing. Exceptional workrate, dangerous in attack and solid in defence. Rarely injured, terrific set-piece delivery and mentality.
Depending on system, I think Rice might also get in as a centre mid.
Funnily enough, I`m not sure I`d have Bellingham or Palmer in my European XI. Both are wonderful players, but I`d pick Saka over Palmer on the right wing for the reasons above, and Bellingham is a bit too much of a loose cannon for him to get into a European XI.
Back on the topic - I think Tuchel is a very very good manager with a great strength in adapting systems to maximise the players at his disposal. Perfect for an international manager. He could very well lead England to a WC win.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Thu 17 Oct 11:02
If the media don`t have him involved in some sort of scandal before then...
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 17 Oct 11:05
Quote:
Bandy, Thu 17 Oct 10:26
If I were picking a European XI - there`s a few England players I`d have in my first XI.
Kane for sure - I think he brings more to a team than his rival goal scorers (Lewandowski and Haaland).
I`d have Saka on the right wing. Exceptional workrate, dangerous in attack and solid in defence. Rarely injured, terrific set-piece delivery and mentality.
Depending on system, I think Rice might also get in as a centre mid.
Funnily enough, I`m not sure I`d have Bellingham or Palmer in my European XI. Both are wonderful players, but I`d pick Saka over Palmer on the right wing for the reasons above, and Bellingham is a bit too much of a loose cannon for him to get into a European XI.
Back on the topic - I think Tuchel is a very very good manager with a great strength in adapting systems to maximise the players at his disposal. Perfect for an international manager. He could very well lead England to a WC win.
I like Saka too, although you could have Yamal,Musiala, Williams etc.
Kane looks like he is towing a cart horse these days.He has had a decent career but doesnt do it in the big games.(7 finals in his career without scoring or winning)Haaland, Mbappe easily in front of him.In fact it wouldn`t surprise me if he wasn`t in the England team soon enough.
Rice is a tidy player with a good attitude but lacks a yard of pace imo and I wouldn`t have him as world class. The Spanish team passed them off the park in the Euro final and England could hardly get a touch at times-all about opinions though.
If you are talking about world level then factor in the South America sides and too and there is plenty of talent out there.
I`m not saying England are hopeless but there are likelier candidates to win tournaments imo.In the last couple of years they have lost to Hungary twice,Iceland and Greece,drawn with Slovenia,North Macedonia and Ukraine as well as losing to France,Italy, Spain and Brazil.The manager was only partly responsible for that.
Tuchel could be a decent appointment for them though.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Thu 17 Oct 16:12
I was one of those `experts` predicting England would do well. They did better that 30 other teams in the tournament and had their moments in the final. Spain fully deserved the win though.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 17 Oct 16:53
Did you think they were the 2nd best team in the tournament? Honestly?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 17 Oct 19:51
They WERE the second best team based on results. Were they a good team though? Absolutely not. They were very fortunate to be in the final after some utterly dismal displays BUT they were the winners at the end of the day.
I suppose it would be like the Scotland - Portugal game where it could very easily have been the case Scotland could have won. If we had, you wouldn`t say Scotland were the "better" team but clearly got the tactics right to win the game.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 17 Oct 21:03
Quote:
jake89, Thu 17 Oct 19:51
They WERE the second best team based on results. Were they a good team though? Absolutely not. They were very fortunate to be in the final after some utterly dismal displays BUT they were the winners at the end of the day.
I suppose it would be like the Scotland - Portugal game where it could very easily have been the case Scotland could have won. If we had, you wouldn`t say Scotland were the "better" team but clearly got the tactics right to win the game.
Where they winners? I must`ve dreamt they got pumped in the final 😆
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 17 Oct 21:13
Not in the final, but the games to get there. Admittedly, most of their wins were unconvincing but they won regardless.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Fri 18 Oct 10:35
Lets be honest the quality of team they have, and the pool of players they take from they should be doing so much better with the weaponary they have
COYP
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Fri 18 Oct 20:09
Tuchel will not improve the England team, and they will not
win a euro or world cup in the next decade or so. There is no
way they can beat, Germany Spain France or Argentina. Teams like
Italy and Greece are fast improving, and do not forget the Netherlands and Portugal. England have 1 or 2 decent players but are a long way of the
very best.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 19 Oct 12:21
Quote:
Jock Par36, Fri 18 Oct 20:09
Tuchel will not improve the England team, and they will not
win a euro or world cup in the next decade or so. There is no
way they can beat, Germany Spain France or Argentina. Teams like
Italy and Greece are fast improving, and do not forget the Netherlands and Portugal. England have 1 or 2 decent players but are a long way of the
very best.
There’s no doubt they overrate all of their players however their results at major tournaments recently are quite good.
2016 -semi finals
2018 - semi finals
2020 - runners up
2022 - quarter finals
2024 - runners up
I think it would be a bit early to say they will not win something. As I said they definitely overrate all of their players but they do have a couple of very good players and they do have a lot of strength in depth in that they have 3/4 players who are good enough to play international football in each position.
I’ve got to say tho, I think Touchel is probably overrated as a manager so I’m hoping overrated plus overrated = out at the groups 🤷🏻♂️😂
Players like Aaron Wan-Bisaka still haven’t been capped and we are just happy Celtics 2nd choice RB has done alright.
COYP
Post Edited (Sat 19 Oct 12:21)
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 19 Oct 13:24
The EPL clubs signing foreign players may reduce his options!
Post Edited (Sat 19 Oct 13:25)
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Tue 22 Oct 21:28
Aston Villa Steve Gerrard - Unai Emery
Maybe why English managers have been overlooked
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Tue 22 Oct 22:26
Quote:
Jock Par36, Fri 18 Oct 20:09
There’s no doubt they overrate all of their players however their results at major tournaments recently are quite good.
2016 -semi finals
2018 - semi finals
2020 - runners up
2022 - quarter finals
2024 - runners up
They lost to Iceland in 2016, I think in the 2nd round. Wales got to the semis.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 25 Oct 17:52
Quote:
Bandy, Tue 22 Oct 22:26
Quote:
Jock Par36, Fri 18 Oct 20:09
There’s no doubt they overrate all of their players however their results at major tournaments recently are quite good.
2016 -semi finals
2018 - semi finals
2020 - runners up
2022 - quarter finals
2024 - runners up
They lost to Iceland in 2016, I think in the 2nd round. Wales got to the semis.
Aye you’re right! My mistake there! Dunno why I put 2016 down 🤷🏻♂️🤦♂️😂
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