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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Tue 14 Jan 19:03
Team unchanged :-
Oluwayemi
Comrie
Ngwenya
Benedictus(c)
Hamilton
Otoo
Ritchie-Hosler
Todd
McCann
Fogarty
Kane
MEHMET (GK), CHALMERS, FISHER, WOTHERSPOON, CLAY, SUTHERLAND, YOUNG, COOPER, MEBUDE
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 14 Jan 19:23
Can`t really argue with naming the same team that dismantled Thistle.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 14 Jan 19:24
LJ said he believed if you played well, then you kept the jersey.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Tue 14 Jan 19:34
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Tue 14 Jan 19:24
LJ said he believed if you played well, then you kept the jersey.
Good old fashioned approach
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Tue 14 Jan 19:41
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Tue 14 Jan 19:34
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Tue 14 Jan 19:24
LJ said he believed if you played well, then you kept the jersey.
Good old fashioned approach
Here`s hoping for something to cheer us up mate 🙏
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 14 Jan 19:57
More attacks in ten minutes then ten games under mcpake
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Tue 14 Jan 20:13
good first 10 mins but even after that
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Tue 14 Jan 20:16
How good is it to see KRH creating things and not playing within himself at wing back.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Tue 14 Jan 20:21
Cmon Todd dint just run into a player keep the ball
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Tue 14 Jan 20:26
Tactical gk injury so brown can rip into the other 10 players. They have improved slightly since then.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Tue 14 Jan 20:37
We seem to have run out of attacking ideas after failing to score in the opening 10/15 when we created several good chances .
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Tue 14 Jan 20:38
So far so good, much improved now we are back to basics.
KRH causing problems, Otoo in his best position, Kane and McCann causing problems, amazing what a more direct approach can do.
Expect Ayr to come into it much more, but still be encouraging.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Tue 14 Jan 20:43
Good to see games with some excitement, playing with less fear of conceding
I dont mind if a result goes against you when we play like that
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:04
0-1
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:05
Undeserved
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:05
Still plenty time. Need to turn these chances into goals.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:08
Nah, disagree Lucho. They`ve been better this half. Had been coming a little bit. The enforced change really rattled us. Don`t look the same when Otoo isn`t in the midfield.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:13
Need a creative midfielder in - Hamilton is not the answer
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:16
Rope a dope tactics come to mind - Ayr have been very clever tactically
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:18
Deserve better than thus scoreline. At least Airdrie are now losing but we can`t rely on others having poor results.
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:18
Missed too many chances at 0-0
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:21
Better players might have taken those chances lucho. Back to earth with a bump, suddenly it’s not just that mcpake was crap, we lack that edge you need.
Plenty work for tidser to do to get us out of 9th.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:28
We lack quality through out the squad. Lots of effort tonight but we came up short again. We need the new manager in and the sale of the club completed. New manager needs to get 2-3 in the door as a matter of urgency…..
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:32
Cannot believe he`s missed that foul on McCann in the box. Then the handball. Hopeless
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:32
Anyone spot him in the crowd?
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:33
Subs have not improved us one bit.
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:35
Penalty all day long.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:42
Better team won, need to recruit well in January window.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:43
Quote:
FA1968, Tue 14 Jan 21:42
Better team won, need to recruit well in January window.
Disagree. They took their chances, we didn`t. Also not helped with the referee missing 2 clear penalty shouts.
We`ll play far worse and win.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:45
We had a solid enough first half, but as usual at EEP, our forward line lacked punch. That cost us, for Scott Brown changed things up at halftime, and Ayr dominated in the second half. Those goals were always coming. With a few exceptions, we lack quality throughout the side. Very disheartening.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:48
We wont play worse and win , the first 5-10 mins we created lots of chances made Ayr look poor but having failed to score we seemed to have no idea how we were going to get a goal. Ayr controlled three quarters of that match. So many of our players had poor games over the 90 mins and the substitutions dear oh dear.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:55
Just not been good enough to score for 3 games in a row this season and that run continues. At least tidser might have an idea of where we need to strengthen when he finally takes over.
Not suprised wetherby, credit to the guys they have raised their game the last few weeks but as tonight showed the whole team need to all be at the top of thier game to get anything against the top half of this league and that doesn’t happen very often.
Need to hope tidser can bring a few in. We need a good attacking midfielder, a left winger and another striker please.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:58
Just about got the penalty calls right. If Lewis had went down when the initial contact I think he may have got a pen, however he delayed going down. The second I don’t think he could see it as the players body was in the way although the Lino may have seen it. The disallowed goal I can’t get my head round as it came off the Ayr defender last. Just my observations. We need to get the take over/manager mess sorted as soon as possible as I think we have a decent base to build on.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:01
I feared that not scoring in the first half would cost us. We dominated but only created two chances which their keeper made decent saves from. Ayr came out the much better team in the second half but I feel Tobi could have done much better with their opening goal but I’d need to see it again to be sure. Once they scored it was game over. The substitutions were terrible for us. Taking Kane off killed the game and Ngenwya going off injured shows how ridiculous our summer recruitment was as Otoo -who played very well in the first half was terrible in the second and it was probably because he was forced to play there.
The first half showed we have a team capable of staying up but we need to be far more clinical. This takeover needs to happen now as we badly need another 2-3 players on board.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:09
Im sorry, and i dont care what anyone says to this, some of you are utter roasters who should not comment on football at all, sorry but it is true
COYP
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:12
Sign of a good team when you play poorly but grind out a win and Ayr did just that.
First half I was thinking to myself how are they second in the league, we posed more of an attacking threat, I don’t recall any effort on goal from Ayr that half.
Second half they came out swinging whilst we came out lacklustre and their finishing was on point and deserved the W.
I actually thought the standout player for us was Ngwenya in the first half and we did tend to go backwards when he had to come off which was unfortunate.
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Topic Originator: TommyR
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:17
I think people are really harsh here. We could use a few signings sure but considering we`re managerless and in the midst of a takeover I thought we did OK.
The second half we still had plenty of chances including a stone wall penalty denied and a goal I believe incorrectly chalked off as hit ayr defender.
Ayr are also the form team and I favour them to pip Falkirk to the title when the bairns drop off.
The first half we were just unlucky. Second half we got sucker punched. Nick Walsh was horrific too.
Not too disheartened by this. On to the cup and the next round of league games.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:19
Started well but couldn’t get the goal that our early play deserved.
Gradually, Ayr started getting more possession and pushing us back as the first half ended.
Second half, they stepped it up a little and the goal was not a huge surprise, although I’m sure we should have defended it better.
After that, Ayr’s experience showed and they saw the game out well. It was a great run by Oakley and a super ball in to find him.
Thought it was a mistake to take Otoo out of midfield and put Mebude on and said so at the time. For me, Comrie could have swapped over and Fisher or Young come on at RB
He further compounded that by taking our other ball winner, Hamilton off.
It was a surprise that they never scored more as the route to goal straight through the middle was glaring.
We could have got a goal back with a wee break to make the last 5/10 minutes interesting, but not to be.
No lack of effort, but Ayr gradually wore us down. Might have been a different game had we gone ahead though.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Tue 14 Jan 22:20)
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:23
Didn’t think they were overly impressive but they took their chances. On another day, we win that game. It is what it is.
McLaughlan also tried changing things up, which sadly didn’t go to plan. But it’s good to see him not being afraid. I’m not Chalmers biggest fan, but we needed him or Wotherspoon on to control that middle near the end because Hammy was dead on his feet. I understood the changes and can see why he made them. Mebude was disappointing when on however.
We move on to Saturday, hopefully get thru to the next round of the cup.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:24
We dominated the first half. Missed a header at the back post.
They had the better of it and scored their chance at the back post.
No sure what happened at the first goal, I’ll need to watch it back.
Should be said we had opportunities to but never got a good strike off when pushing late on.
Referee was stinking like
COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:25
Quote:
shellypar, Tue 14 Jan 22:09
Im sorry, and i dont care what anyone says to this, some of you are utter roasters who should not comment on football at all, sorry but it is true
Is this a failed attempt at sitting on the fence?
COYP
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:31
I think if we`d taken one of those chances - especially if we`d have gone into the break a goal up - we may well have won the game. The confidence drained from us when the enforced change happened then they scored. After that there was likely to only be one winner as they sat deep (as they had done in the second half of the first period) and looked to exploit the gaps we`d leave chasing a goal. If Kane can`t last more than an hour we need another centre forward as a matter of urgency, and we could be doing with a reserve left back to keep Otoo in the midfield. Todd looked well off it again and I worry he`s playing when he should be resting and recovering from illness and injury. Mebude offered nothing when he came on. Sutherland at least looked lively and then either scored or forced an own goal, I couldn`t quite see but unfortunately it was ruled offside. Will have to see that again.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:33
Quote:
Jeffery, Tue 14 Jan 21:32
Anyone spot him in the crowd?
Pretty sure he was in the directors box.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:34
First penalty could be a big error from officials, or
McCann trying to con them, will need to see it again.
Second one doubt the officials could see through the melee of players in the 6 yard box so understandable.
Sutherland probably offside from the initial shot from Chalmers - doesn’t matter that it hits the defenders legs, he’s offside in the build up and scores from it.
Keeper looked to have a shocker for their first. Once again goalie errors costing us.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:35
He was there
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Topic Originator: adj27
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:38
Just didn’t understand the first substitution - Otoo and Hamilton dominated the midfield in the first half - without them we were powder puff - if Otoo had to go to full back then surely Wotherspoon (or even Chalmers) should have come on - we just handed the initiative to them - and can Kane not play longer - he didn’t look to me like he wanted to come off.
Less said about Walsh the better - the one on McCann looked like a stonewaller and some of his decisions all night were absolutely baffling.
Andy
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:38
Was the goalie at fault for the 1st goal hard to tell from the norrie but it didn`t look great
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:40
We played well, could and should have scored but the guys went forward every chance they could. 6 points in the next 2 games.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:41
Otoo moving to left back stopped our forward drive and Hamilton was on a knife edge after his yellow card. Chalmers put through some cracking passes when he came on, Mebude didn`t impress, is he not on a short term contract?
Should have been over by half time, got to take our chances!
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:45
``Todd looked off it again and I worry hes playing when he should be resting and recovering from illness and injury. ``
Todd doesn`t have illness or injury. The guys been back from injury for months. He`s just is not up to it at this level. KRH is the same.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:47
McCann got a kick in the calf. Definitely a penalty
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:48
Can`t lack the guys for effort,but ayr,took advantage of our failures to score early doors. Oakley is a niggley swine,he should have been hauled off.Very frustrating, but think we will come good,in weeks to come.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Tue 14 Jan 23:00
We really should have made our early pressure count but as usual couldn`t produce the wee bit of penetration that might lead to a goal. Then we were suckered again. Too many subs all at once spoiled any rhythm we had and left spaces that were exploited. Looks like our problems aren`t as simple as sacking the manager.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Tue 14 Jan 23:06
Our problem lies that our quality from the bench is utter garbage and we need signings asap! But yet again we’ve ****** about in another transfer window and will be playing catch up again. Midfield was a mess when Chalmers and Mebude came on. Ayr had the all the freedom they wanted when they subs got made
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Tue 14 Jan 23:08
I`m a wee bit surprised a lot of folk thought Ayr dominated the second half. They were the better side after they scored, but that was because they were able to control the game without the ball which they did pretty well. I didn`t feel they were on top at all before the first goal, which I think was their first chance of the game.
We started well, probably on top for the first half hour before it became quite even towards half-time. However, only the one good chance with the keeper saving well. We did also came close early in the second half when Lewis McCann did well to get a ball over that looked like giving a tap-in before a defender did brilliantly to slide it away.
O`too going to left-back didn`t work well and he struggled there. Generally, we seemed to get weaker as more subs came on but by that time we were chasing the game and not really looking like coming back.
Not too upset about that as it feels like one that on another day, if things had gone our way more than they did, we might well have won. I don`t think Ayr were lucky to win as they defended well in the second half with the lead, but it wouldn`t have been lucky for us to have won either. The main concern is that we`ve not taken many points from the games when things have gone against us, and a few from those games would make a huge difference.
Hopefully we can get the new manager sorted pretty soon. Could really do with it happening before teh good feeling of recent games completely drains away.
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Topic Originator: msgribbin
Date: Tue 14 Jan 23:22
I can accept a defeat if the team give it a decent go - and they did in the first half, goals change games and maybe a different night if we`d scored early. As it was, Ayr could have won by more in the end.
The difference between good players and better ones is often consistency. If they could play like they did at Partick all the time, they probably wouldn`t be playing at this level, or for the Pars. Tonight most of the team were just too slow in thought and deed, most of the game. And the confidence visibly drained away.
The team does need an injection for sure - hopefully soon. But if we can go forward with the spirit we started with tonight - and without the crippling negativity we had under McPake - I think we`ll be ok.
Mark G
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 14 Jan 23:22
As usual Socks sums it up perfectly.
There`s absolutely no need for the usual pile-on after a defeat. I notice the players are, yet again, not good enough according to our experts. Even though they`ve given 3 out the top 4 a game recently.
I`m fairly certain we`ll stay up, especially with a few additions.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Tue 14 Jan 23:25
Quote:
da_no_1, Tue 14 Jan 23:22
As usual Socks sums it up perfectly.
There`s absolutely no need for the usual pile-on after a defeat. I notice the players are, yet again, not good enough according to our experts. Even though they`ve given 3 out the top 4 a game recently.
I`m fairly certain we`ll stay up, especially with a few additions.
Seconded. I worry that time is slipping away a little and we could soon be playing proper catch up to the teams immediately above us. But it`s obvious to me that the squad have been underperforming and mismanaged. Fingers crossed eh.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Tue 14 Jan 23:40
Unfortunately we will be scraping the barrel yet again in another transfer window!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 14 Jan 23:42
Quote:
parsfan97, Tue 14 Jan 23:40
Unfortunately we will be scraping the barrel yet again in another transfer window!
Yip. Think back to when we used to add genuine quality like Hardie and Rutkiewicz. Sad
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: MikeyDee
Date: Tue 14 Jan 23:53
Mebude is honking
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 14 Jan 23:55
In this window most players are under contract so transfers are usually dependent on clubs making players available. This is often late in the window once potential lending clubs have finalised their own business.
ETA - We really need to get cover for Kane because, when he goes off, there is no one to provide what he brings to the team - the ability to hold the ball up and play it through for runners. John McLaughlan said he had a `tight calf` which sounds ominous. Ngwenya`s injury seems a bit of a mystery. JM didn`t shirk from saying Tobi should have done better at the first goal.
Post Edited (Wed 15 Jan 00:01)
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Wed 15 Jan 01:18
It was a difficult defeat to take because we completely outplayed them in the first half, with nothing to show for it and then lost two soft goals in the second half. Our defending of corners and free kicks around the box is suspect. Maybe lack of height is a problem. On one occasion KRH was isolated at the back post trying to compete in the air with their tallest players and that was no contest.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Wed 15 Jan 02:41
What I found most frustrating about our play, particularly in the first half, was the repeated passing back when advancing forward beyond midfield was called for. It was as if we had returned to the Yogi Hughes philosophy of maintaining possession at all costs and always building our moves from the back.
To an extent, this tactic was understandable in the second half when Ayr seemed to be running five across their back line, making life very difficult for us. However, we still had the ball in the net and a couple of penalty claims.
In the first half, Ayr were nowhere near as tight, and we should have exploited that much more effectively. A sublime long kick-out by Tobi illustrated what was possible. That kick-out completely split the Ayr defence and created a golden opportunity down our right.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 15 Jan 06:12
Once Ottoo came out of the midfield we lost the shape. I thought it was close but ayr took the 2 chances we gifted them. McCanns chance where it pinballed didn`t go in and their similar effort at the other end does, that`s the sort of things that don`t go your way when you`re fighting at the wrong end of the table.
Worrying if we have to play with Ottoo at left back for a few games or even longer as he seems to be the one holding the midfield together.
Performance level wasn`t the same as last 2 games but we have a chance on Saturday to get back to winning ways and get to the next round in the cup. Winning that might get us the compensation money and finally get a manager in along with a few new faces.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 15 Jan 06:27
Having a keeper who can ping 50-yard defence-splitting passes is a bonus but his priority has to be keeping the ball out of the net. Whilst the team has improved overall in the last three games his performances have not.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Wed 15 Jan 07:56
I`ve said it a few times the goalies not any better then Mehmet he`s cost us a few goals now.
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Topic Originator: Lambo1885
Date: Wed 15 Jan 08:19
"Anyone spot him in the crowd?"
Tidser was in the Directors box.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 15 Jan 08:25
Quote:
Lambo1885, Wed 15 Jan 08:19
"Anyone spot him in the crowd?"
Tidser was in the Directors box.
I hope hebeen thinking about players because HD isn`t going to have much time, if any to get them in.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 15 Jan 08:56
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 15 Jan 06:27
Having a keeper who can ping 50-yard defence-splitting passes is a bonus but his priority has to be keeping the ball out of the net. Whilst the team has improved overall in the last three games his performances have not.
But we reverted back to mucking around with it at the back again. I agree we need to use his long kicks.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 15 Jan 09:02
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Wed 15 Jan 08:56
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 15 Jan 06:27
Having a keeper who can ping 50-yard defence-splitting passes is a bonus but his priority has to be keeping the ball out of the net. Whilst the team has improved overall in the last three games his performances have not.
But we reverted back to mucking around with it at the back again. I agree we need to use his long kicks.
I worry if folk can`t see that we`ve improved in the last 3 games against quality championship opposition. Ayr are the form team in the league and we more than matched them.
Another defeat yes, the league looks pretty grim agreed but theres plenty to be positive about if you try.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 15 Jan 09:38
Effort and endeavour has definately improved. Quality and ability wise were still very limited with this squad and unfortunately working harder only takes you so far.
No pile on here, this has been visible all season and if anything there was too much made of a once a season performance against Partick last week (it was United the season before).
Hopefully tidser in before the week is out and I’ve no doubt he’ll have been looking at players to bring in this last few weeks. At least he’ll not have the same affinity for certain players that mcpake had.
The drop off from the 1st 11 to the subs is horrendous and that bench is full of more expensive experienced players.
I know mebude is coming back from a life threatening injury and hence it was a gamble but it’s definately not paid off for us.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 15 Jan 09:56
I don`t think there was much difference in quality until they scored. By that time we could and should have been 2 goals in front. Even at 2-0 down we had chances. I know it`s all ifs and buts but we competed well with the form team in the league who have splashed out already to improve their squad. We hammered Thistle last week and fought well the week before against the best team.in the league. There is quality in this squad no matter what you think. We don`t have the depth required to deal with a game when things don`t go our way, that`s obvious but that starting line up is more than capable of doing what`s needed to get up the league. A win against Airdrie away is vital, get that & hopefully Falkirk, QP and Livi do us a turn and we`re right back in the mix and giving the teams above us something to think about......
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Wed 15 Jan 10:12
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Berkey, Wed 15 Jan 09:38
Effort and endeavour has definately improved. Quality and ability wise were still very limited with this squad and unfortunately working harder only takes you so far.
No pile on here, this has been visible all season and if anything there was too much made of a once a season performance against Partick last week (it was United the season before).
Hopefully tidser in before the week is out and I’ve no doubt he’ll have been looking at players to bring in this last few weeks. At least he’ll not have the same affinity for certain players that mcpake had.
The drop off from the 1st 11 to the subs is horrendous and that bench is full of more expensive experienced players.
I know mebude is coming back from a life threatening injury and hence it was a gamble but it’s definately not paid off for us.
Honestly anytime i read one of your posts makes me want to strangle myself, talk utter waffle 90% of the time and 100% it is all negative
COYP
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Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par
Date: Wed 15 Jan 10:19
Unfortunate to lose after what was overall a reasonably encouraging performance. Without creating a great deal, we had dominated until the goal and had probably done enough to get in front. The opener was quite avoidable, a cross from a pretty harmless angle that we had 3 attempts to defend - win the first header/or make it more difficult, the keeper could also have done better and then Otoo also failed to clear. The second was a good quality counter attack.
I think all of the subs were fair. I can see why Otoo was moved to left back after the injury to Ngewnya, the only other option would have been Comrie - in hindsight this might have been better. Medube is either hot or cold, last night he was very cold. Sutherland looked quite lively, a bit unfortunate as his goal was well taken - but looked pretty clearly offside to me. I don`t think Kane was having a great game anyway. Chalmers added some much needed quality forward passes.
More positives than negatives for me. Although we were more open at 2 down, we did at least push and threaten to get a goal back - in other games we`ve have meekly surrendered. The shape is better, more players are in their natural positions and we were more aggressive and one a lot more duels (especially in the 1st half). McCann looks much more effective as a centre forward playing alongside someone. KRH was much lively. Otoo looked more like himself in the middle. Ngewnya is improving and looks fine at left back.
Still issues to sort out going forward though. There isn`t much creativity in that starting 11, and none of the central midfielders offer much quality with their forward passing. Matty Todds`s set pieces are good, but he`s not offering much at all in open play which is a concern, as his game is all about active and getting involved. Maybe Wothorspoon could come in and more attacking quality.
It annoys me how one footed most of our players are as well, it also means they are very easy to predict as they always turn/run in the same direction, they don`t have the confidence to pass/shoot with the other foot. In a team with few players who dribble, this makes us even more predictable.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Wed 15 Jan 10:38
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cammypar 1995, Wed 15 Jan 08:56
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wee eck, Wed 15 Jan 06:27
Having a keeper who can ping 50-yard defence-splitting passes is a bonus but his priority has to be keeping the ball out of the net. Whilst the team has improved overall in the last three games his performances have not.
But we reverted back to mucking around with it at the back again. I agree we need to use his long kicks.
Cammy there was a very good reason for this. The Ayr forwards were pressing on our defence. Interplay both with Otoo and along the back line strung out Henderson and Oakley as well as their right back who was venturing forward more often. This may look like messing about but it ensures the forwards lose faith in the press and then start to back off. This was very effective in the first half for us. We wouldn’t win many high punts either last night as our second ball winning is not as good as Ayrs. The directional kick from the keeper in the first half was sublime and I think there is a potential to mix it up, but think that saying we started to mess about maybe is wrong without understanding why we were doing it.
Post Edited (Wed 15 Jan 10:42)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 15 Jan 10:56
Many of McPake`s substitutions were questioned but I couldn`t understand why JMcL brought on Mebude to play left midfield last night when Otoo was moved to left back, rather than bring on a more natural midfielder like Wotherspoon or Clay.
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Topic Originator: the saline hill puma
Date: Wed 15 Jan 11:07
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wee eck, Wed 15 Jan 10:56
Many of McPake`s substitutions were questioned but I couldn`t understand why JMcL brought on Mebude to play left midfield last night when Otoo was moved to left back, rather than bring on a more natural midfielder like Wotherspoon or Clay.
Id imagine it`s because neither Witherspoon or Clay have the legs to play on the left or right side of the midfield shape we are playing. It involves lots running and covering space going forward and back. I don`t think mebude suits it either but he has more energy than the other options
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 15 Jan 11:22
I think either would have complemented Otoo better than Mebude did. He was like a fish out of water.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 15 Jan 11:55
Da no 1 - a win against airdrie is a must just to keep the pace, everyone is beating airdrie.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Wed 15 Jan 12:07
Thought we played well in the first half.
Defo no lack of effort but the changes didn’t work last night and perhaps highlighted a lack of depth again. Dapo needs to up his game, bar the odd game he’s struggled and just seems to constantly go to ground.
Would need to see the offside goal again but looked tight and was a stonewaller for the foul on McCann. Would’ve made a really interesting last 5/10 mins if we scored.
Got to go to Airdrie and win.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 15 Jan 12:10
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da_no_1, Wed 15 Jan 09:02
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cammypar 1995, Wed 15 Jan 08:56
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wee eck, Wed 15 Jan 06:27
Having a keeper who can ping 50-yard defence-splitting passes is a bonus but his priority has to be keeping the ball out of the net. Whilst the team has improved overall in the last three games his performances have not.
But we reverted back to mucking around with it at the back again. I agree we need to use his long kicks.
I worry if folk can`t see that we`ve improved in the last 3 games against quality championship opposition. Ayr are the form team in the league and we more than matched them.
Another defeat yes, the league looks pretty grim agreed but theres plenty to be positive about if you try.
I didnt say we haven`t improved. Small margins that go for you or indeed against you. I said it before McCanns one that pinballed looked similar to Ayr`s opening goal difference was theirs went in ours didn`t. That`s the luck you have when you are at opposite ends of the league. If I remember correctly we are caught in possession in our own half for the second goal which is frustrating as we seemed to have a lot of the ball at times but didn`t really do much with it.
We have absolutely improved under JM but I still think we are severely lacking in quality. We moved ottoo to left back which is probably our only real option but our midfield then becomes disjointed. We will have to wait and see the extent of kierans injury but let`s hope it`s nothing too serious and he doesn`t miss too many games. Clay or Chalmers coming in to cover the vacancy left by Ottoo doesn`t really fill me with much confidence but we don`t seem to have any other options.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 15 Jan 12:54
For a squad that looked very limited just 4 weeks ago there is no doubt there has been an improvement, we`re not going from where we were to tanning the whole league overnight ffs.
Hopefully get the manager gets confirmed and a couple of players in, I`m pretty hopeful, it was always going to be little steps.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Wed 15 Jan 14:57
Pars we`re a bit unlucky last night. We
could have and should have had the game
in the bag in the 1st 30mins. We then missed
Otto from the midfield. A disallowed goal
and 2 penalties denied. We will avoid relegation.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 15 Jan 15:21
We still have the option of playing Otoo in the middle where his strength and energy is vital.
Comrie can go to left back and bring in Sam Fisher at right back. Don’t really understand why he has fallen so far down the pecking order?
Mabude hasn’t done anything, imo, to warrant more game time.
Surely we can find a place for Wotherspoon if playing Hamilton and Otoo in the middle ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Wed 15 Jan 15:21)
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